Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

[Indeependent]

Ask when's the last time Neo-Conservatives controlled government.

 

[Conservative65]

Last time I looked, almost $10 trillion of that debt was added during Obama's 8 years.

Your point?

Where has a single Trump economic policy reduced our national debt? Republicans whined like little bitches about the debt, yet have no plans to reduce it

Proves your claim incorrect.

Trump hasn't been President. Obama has and the debt has almost doubled.

Obama is not running, Trump is

If Republicans are as upset about debt as they claim ...why do none of their plans reduce it?

Trump isn't President. Obama is.

Are you saying that something that hasn't been tried fails because the results haven't occurred?

Republicans have had total control of Congress for two years.....why haven't they reduced the debt like they promised?

See if you can pick out the common term associated with all these claims about what Obama said he'd do if legislation related to (fill in the blank) was passed:

Obama Says He'll Veto Any Legislation Blocking Iran Deal
The President says he will veto anti-net neutrality bill
Congress passes Keystone, Obama says he'll veto
Obama Threatens to Veto House Syrian Refugee Bill

 

[Conservative65]

Republicans did not control congress when either Obamacare or the stimulus passed. In fact that was when the Democrats had a supermajority and the Republicans couldn't even filibuster them. Remember the Democrats rushed Obamacare through after Ted Kennedy died before Scott Brown could be the 41st vote to filibuster it

I don't really believe that Republicans would have done it much differently, but trying to blame ACA on them is pretty pathetic. It's the biggest corporatist sellout I've seen and the Democrats own it outright.

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

 

[dblack]

We have economic policies at a national level. These policies impact where increased wealth will congregate. Thirty years ago we sold out to supply side policies on the promise that wealth would trickle down to working Americans......it never happened

Why continue economic policies that only help the one percent?

I bolded the portion of your post that answers your question.

?

The reason greedy people work so hard to control economic policy is that economic policy controls wealth.

This is what's so sadly naive about modern liberalism. You think that the way to mitigate economic power is to co-opt it with government. But all that does is steer those seeking economic power into government. Then they have both economic power AND political power. It means that not only can they set prices, they can force us to pay them.

So then does the revolving door close when conservatives control government, or are their motivations just different?

Nope.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Republicans have had total control of Congress for two years.....why haven't they reduced the debt like they promised?

They're trying, but you can only do so much with DumBama in the White House and his threats to shutdown the government which the MSM will blame exclusively on the Republican Congress. They have been able to reduce the deficit so we're in the right direction. If Trump gets elected, we may very well have a balanced budget.

 

[Indeependent]

Republicans did not control congress when either Obamacare or the stimulus passed. In fact that was when the Democrats had a supermajority and the Republicans couldn't even filibuster them. Remember the Democrats rushed Obamacare through after Ted Kennedy died before Scott Brown could be the 41st vote to filibuster it

I don't really believe that Republicans would have done it much differently, but trying to blame ACA on them is pretty pathetic. It's the biggest corporatist sellout I've seen and the Democrats own it outright.

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The House and Senate are run by the republicans....they control the spending.....Shrub left a $1.2 trillion annual deficit for FY2008 and destroyed the whole economy. Obama cut the annual deficit in half.

DumBama did? Since it's Congress that spends the money in our country, how did DumBama accomplish that?

 

[kaz]

Republicans did not control congress when either Obamacare or the stimulus passed. In fact that was when the Democrats had a supermajority and the Republicans couldn't even filibuster them. Remember the Democrats rushed Obamacare through after Ted Kennedy died before Scott Brown could be the 41st vote to filibuster it

I don't really believe that Republicans would have done it much differently, but trying to blame ACA on them is pretty pathetic. It's the biggest corporatist sellout I've seen and the Democrats own it outright.

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

You see what happened to the economy after Pelosi and the democrats took over the purse strings in 2007?

Let me know what happened from 2007 to 2010.

Thanks.

They reacted to an economy that was destroyed by 8 years of GW.

Yes, the President in this country is a dictator, congress had nothing to do with it. Where are you "independent" again? LOL. Democrat shill.

The 435 congressmen and 100 Senators had zero to do with it, it was the PRESIDENT!

Yeah ...

 

[Conservative65]

Republicans did not control congress when either Obamacare or the stimulus passed. In fact that was when the Democrats had a supermajority and the Republicans couldn't even filibuster them. Remember the Democrats rushed Obamacare through after Ted Kennedy died before Scott Brown could be the 41st vote to filibuster it

I don't really believe that Republicans would have done it much differently, but trying to blame ACA on them is pretty pathetic. It's the biggest corporatist sellout I've seen and the Democrats own it outright.

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

No. My point was that if YOU want someone without coverage to have it, pay their premium with YOUR money. That means if someone doesn't get it, those responsible for cleaning up the dead bodies are those that refuse to do with their own money what they say someone else should have.

 

[kaz]

Republicans did not control congress when either Obamacare or the stimulus passed. In fact that was when the Democrats had a supermajority and the Republicans couldn't even filibuster them. Remember the Democrats rushed Obamacare through after Ted Kennedy died before Scott Brown could be the 41st vote to filibuster it

I don't really believe that Republicans would have done it much differently, but trying to blame ACA on them is pretty pathetic. It's the biggest corporatist sellout I've seen and the Democrats own it outright.

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

The Republicans? Does that make the Democrats selling us out ok with you? This two-party suicide has got to stop.

The problem is that this board doesn't have too many non-partisans.

Yet dblack and I of pretty much anyone I see on the board are the two who specifically argue with both parties all the time. You sure don't. You argue with Democrats once in a blue moon

 

[kaz]

Republicans did not control congress when either Obamacare or the stimulus passed. In fact that was when the Democrats had a supermajority and the Republicans couldn't even filibuster them. Remember the Democrats rushed Obamacare through after Ted Kennedy died before Scott Brown could be the 41st vote to filibuster it

I don't really believe that Republicans would have done it much differently, but trying to blame ACA on them is pretty pathetic. It's the biggest corporatist sellout I've seen and the Democrats own it outright.

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

I realize it's Sunday, but damn, how drunk are you?

The more socialism fucks up the economy, the more you demand more of it to solve the problem.

Maybe at some point you stop trying to cure a drunk with more vodka, ya think?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Is "We the People" one big commune?
In a way, we are
We have economic policies at a national level. These policies impact where increased wealth will congregate. Thirty years ago we sold out to supply side policies on the promise that wealth would trickle down to working Americans......it never happened

Why continue economic policies that only help the one percent?

Our economic polices are not why we have the one-percent. It's investment and production why they are the one-percent.......well except for people like Bill and Hillary perhaps.

The very idea that not taking more of other people's money is a failed economic policy is ridiculous. As I stated, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all collected income taxes while nearly half of the people in our country pay nothing. If that's what liberals consider unfair, then what do they consider fair?

 

[Conservative65]

Republicans did not control congress when either Obamacare or the stimulus passed. In fact that was when the Democrats had a supermajority and the Republicans couldn't even filibuster them. Remember the Democrats rushed Obamacare through after Ted Kennedy died before Scott Brown could be the 41st vote to filibuster it

I don't really believe that Republicans would have done it much differently, but trying to blame ACA on them is pretty pathetic. It's the biggest corporatist sellout I've seen and the Democrats own it outright.

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

I realize it's Sunday, but damn, how drunk are you?

The more socialism fucks up the economy, the more you demand more of it to solve the problem.

Maybe at some point you stop trying to cure a drunk with more vodka, ya think?

Independent's mentality is like putting those that fucked up the school systems in charge of fixing them. If they are capable of fixing it, they wouldn't have fucked it up to start with.

 

[Indeependent]

I don't really believe that Republicans would have done it much differently, but trying to blame ACA on them is pretty pathetic. It's the biggest corporatist sellout I've seen and the Democrats own it outright.

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

I realize it's Sunday, but damn, how drunk are you?

The more socialism fucks up the economy, the more you demand more of it to solve the problem.

Maybe at some point you stop trying to cure a drunk with more vodka, ya think?

Independent's mentality is like putting those that fucked up the school systems in charge of fixing them. If they are capable of fixing it, they wouldn't have fucked it up to start with.

It took the buy-out of the government by the wealthy to create the conditions we have today.
There is virtually no way out of this situation.

 

[kaz]

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

I realize it's Sunday, but damn, how drunk are you?

The more socialism fucks up the economy, the more you demand more of it to solve the problem.

Maybe at some point you stop trying to cure a drunk with more vodka, ya think?

Independent's mentality is like putting those that fucked up the school systems in charge of fixing them. If they are capable of fixing it, they wouldn't have fucked it up to start with.

It took the buy-out of the government by the wealthy to create the conditions we have today.
There is virtually no way out of this situation.

Actually there's an easy way. Get government to stop fucking us and get out of the way, our excellent business culture will fix it with free trade and capitalism, which just means economic freedom.

You're trying to tell the do to run free while it's choking and you're choking it harder

 

[bripat9643]

Go ahead and explain why that is a good thing for the country.

Keep in mind folks that the American socialists are by far the dumbest people on the planet.

Let us hear why American companies should be taxed more and why that is a good thing.

Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

I can't believe that this is beyond your comprehension. The $17 trillion national debt has been run up by corporate businesses that own ALL ALL ALL the lobbyists. Big oil, big pharma, and especially the military contractors. They are the ones that have the money, not the American people. It the debt is going to be paid, corporate business is the ONLY way.

How did corporate business run up the debt? Are you claiming Congress doesn't vote on each and every line of the budget? Are you claiming the President doesn't sign it?

 

[bripat9643]

The bought off GOP obstructionists and the dupes are unwilling to do anything about it...I know, a tax cut for the rich...

What amazes me is the hypocrisy of the right. After eight years of complaining about the ever growing national debt, every Republican candidate immidiately calls for budgets that slash taxes on the wealthy to record low levels. Every Republican plan added at least 10 trillion to our debt
Not a single Republican plan would cut our debt

Last time I looked, almost $10 trillion of that debt was added during Obama's 8 years.

Your point?

Where has a single Trump economic policy reduced our national debt? Republicans whined like little bitches about the debt, yet have no plans to reduce it

Proves your claim incorrect.

Trump hasn't been President. Obama has and the debt has almost doubled.

Obama is not running, Trump is

If Republicans are as upset about debt as they claim ...why do none of their plans reduce it?

Hillary is running on Obama's record, douche bag. Quit pretending he had nothing to do with the debt.

 

[rightwinger]

Your point?

Where has a single Trump economic policy reduced our national debt? Republicans whined like little bitches about the debt, yet have no plans to reduce it

Proves your claim incorrect.

Trump hasn't been President. Obama has and the debt has almost doubled.

Obama is not running, Trump is

If Republicans are as upset about debt as they claim ...why do none of their plans reduce it?

Trump isn't President. Obama is.

Are you saying that something that hasn't been tried fails because the results haven't occurred?

Republicans have had total control of Congress for two years.....why haven't they reduced the debt like they promised?

See if you can pick out the common term associated with all these claims about what Obama said he'd do if legislation related to (fill in the blank) was passed:

Obama Says He'll Veto Any Legislation Blocking Iran Deal
The President says he will veto anti-net neutrality bill
Congress passes Keystone, Obama says he'll veto
Obama Threatens to Veto House Syrian Refugee Bill

The rest of the civilized world and myself agree with every one of those

Guess who opposes?

 

[rightwinger]

What amazes me is the hypocrisy of the right. After eight years of complaining about the ever growing national debt, every Republican candidate immidiately calls for budgets that slash taxes on the wealthy to record low levels. Every Republican plan added at least 10 trillion to our debt
Not a single Republican plan would cut our debt

Last time I looked, almost $10 trillion of that debt was added during Obama's 8 years.

Your point?

Where has a single Trump economic policy reduced our national debt? Republicans whined like little bitches about the debt, yet have no plans to reduce it

Proves your claim incorrect.

Trump hasn't been President. Obama has and the debt has almost doubled.

Obama is not running, Trump is

If Republicans are as upset about debt as they claim ...why do none of their plans reduce it?

Hillary is running on Obama's record, douche bag. Quit pretending he had nothing to do with the debt.

You keep ducking

Republicans were obsessed with the national debt the whole Obama presidency. They have controlled Congress for two years and Trump does nothing to reduce debt.....only slash taxes on the rich

 

[bripat9643]

Last time I looked, almost $10 trillion of that debt was added during Obama's 8 years.

Your point?

Where has a single Trump economic policy reduced our national debt? Republicans whined like little bitches about the debt, yet have no plans to reduce it

Proves your claim incorrect.

Trump hasn't been President. Obama has and the debt has almost doubled.

Obama is not running, Trump is

If Republicans are as upset about debt as they claim ...why do none of their plans reduce it?

Hillary is running on Obama's record, douche bag. Quit pretending he had nothing to do with the debt.

You keep ducking

Republicans were obsessed with the national debt the whole Obama presidency. They have controlled Congress for two years and Trump does nothing to reduce debt.....only slash taxes on the rich

How does that alter the fact the Obama has racked up $9 trillion in new debt?