Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

[rightwinger]

It alters the fact because it s blatantly obvious that Republicans will do nothing to change it

Republicans in 1995 proposed the balanced budget amendment which would have made it so congress didn't get paid, if the Federal budget was in deficit. Let's review a little history, shall we?

Although the balanced budget amendment had not been a major issue nationally for several years, it provided a striking contrast between Daschle’s first campaign in 1978 and his early career in Congress, when he consistently promoted the amendment, and his later years in the Senate. During his last competitive Senate bid in 1986, Daschle ran a television ad saying that “in 1979, Tom Daschle saw the damage these deficits could do to our country. His first official act was to sponsor a Constitutional amendment to balance the budget.” In 1992, Daschle’s campaign literature touted the “Daschle Plan,” which included the balanced budget amendment: “In 1979, before it became popular, I was pushing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. It was my first official action, and I’ve authored or coauthored one every year.” In 1995, the amendment had the support of sixty-six of the sixty-seven senators needed for passage, but Daschle voted against it because of opposition from the Clinton administration…. When pressed on the amendment in the last [2004] television debate, Daschle said that he had opposed the bill in the 1990s because there were no provisions in the amendment allowing for emergencies such as war. But the record showed that there was an emergency clause
​

So Bill Clinton, your hero and rapist, pressed Tom Daschle and other democraps, to oppose the balanced budget amendment that was proposed by REPUBLICANS. Not democraps.

This after Daschle ran on a political platform of opposing deficits, and promoting exactly that type of amendment.

Daschle then boldly lied that the amendment didn't have any clause for emergencies or war, when the congressional record clearly proved he lied..... which isn't surprising given he is of the party of liars, like Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and now you. You are a liar.

Republicans have consistently been trying to do something about budget deficits, and you are a liar.

Why do you need an amendment to balance the budget?

Show you can actually do it for 5-10 years and then consider an amendment

Yeah, and Obama had deficits over a trillion dollars a year, for 3 or 4 years, and you want "others" to "show you can actually do it".

Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

This nation has only added 17 amendments in the last 220 years. Amendments are rare and difficult to do

A balanced budget is a simple thing to do. Why is Congress wasting it's time on an amendment rather than just do its job?

Because your "rather simple thing to do" your democrats didn't do. Again, you had years of complete control over government, to prove your "rather simple thing to do", and it didn't happen did it?

Oh and who was in charge of the Federal budget in the late 1990s? Republicans. We've had more experience getting that "simple thing to do" done, than you have.

Congress: We give up, we can't do our jobs, we need an amendment to force us

If Congress can't do a simple thing like pass a budget, what makes anyone think they can reach an agreement on a balanced budget amendment?

Here is why it can't pass

Republicans: If a balanced budget is not passed, automatic spending cuts take place

Democtrats: If a balanced budget is not passed, automatic tax increases take place

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This nation has only added 17 amendments in the last 220 years. Amendments are rare and difficult to do

A balanced budget is a simple thing to do. Why is Congress wasting it's time on an amendment rather than just do its job?

Vote for a Republican President and we'll show you how simple it is. But when you have an obstructionist President who will veto or shutdown the government because there isn't enough spending for him, it's impossible for the Congress to get to that point. All they can do is get as close as they can which figures show they were successful at.

Vote for Hillary, we will have the same problem.

 

[rightwinger]

It alters the fact because it s blatantly obvious that Republicans will do nothing to change it

Republicans in 1995 proposed the balanced budget amendment which would have made it so congress didn't get paid, if the Federal budget was in deficit. Let's review a little history, shall we?

Although the balanced budget amendment had not been a major issue nationally for several years, it provided a striking contrast between Daschle’s first campaign in 1978 and his early career in Congress, when he consistently promoted the amendment, and his later years in the Senate. During his last competitive Senate bid in 1986, Daschle ran a television ad saying that “in 1979, Tom Daschle saw the damage these deficits could do to our country. His first official act was to sponsor a Constitutional amendment to balance the budget.” In 1992, Daschle’s campaign literature touted the “Daschle Plan,” which included the balanced budget amendment: “In 1979, before it became popular, I was pushing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. It was my first official action, and I’ve authored or coauthored one every year.” In 1995, the amendment had the support of sixty-six of the sixty-seven senators needed for passage, but Daschle voted against it because of opposition from the Clinton administration…. When pressed on the amendment in the last [2004] television debate, Daschle said that he had opposed the bill in the 1990s because there were no provisions in the amendment allowing for emergencies such as war. But the record showed that there was an emergency clause
​

So Bill Clinton, your hero and rapist, pressed Tom Daschle and other democraps, to oppose the balanced budget amendment that was proposed by REPUBLICANS. Not democraps.

This after Daschle ran on a political platform of opposing deficits, and promoting exactly that type of amendment.

Daschle then boldly lied that the amendment didn't have any clause for emergencies or war, when the congressional record clearly proved he lied..... which isn't surprising given he is of the party of liars, like Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and now you. You are a liar.

Republicans have consistently been trying to do something about budget deficits, and you are a liar.

Why do you need an amendment to balance the budget?

Show you can actually do it for 5-10 years and then consider an amendment

Yeah, and Obama had deficits over a trillion dollars a year, for 3 or 4 years, and you want "others" to "show you can actually do it".

Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

This nation has only added 17 amendments in the last 220 years. Amendments are rare and difficult to do

A balanced budget is a simple thing to do. Why is Congress wasting it's time on an amendment rather than just do its job?

Because your "rather simple thing to do" your democrats didn't do. Again, you had years of complete control over government, to prove your "rather simple thing to do", and it didn't happen did it?

Oh and who was in charge of the Federal budget in the late 1990s? Republicans. We've had more experience getting that "simple thing to do" done, than you have.

Then do it

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You don't need to shut down government to pass a budget. Hasn't been needed for over 200 years

How long have you been sleeping? The government was shut down just three years ago over this same mess.

 

[rightwinger]

This nation has only added 17 amendments in the last 220 years. Amendments are rare and difficult to do

A balanced budget is a simple thing to do. Why is Congress wasting it's time on an amendment rather than just do its job?

Vote for a Republican President and we'll show you how simple it is. But when you have an obstructionist President who will veto or shutdown the government because there isn't enough spending for him, it's impossible for the Congress to get to that point. All they can do is get as close as they can which figures show they were successful at.

Vote for Hillary, we will have the same problem.

You mean like the balanced budgets from Reagan and the two Bush's?

 

[Indeependent]

Republicans are so full of crap when it comes to budgets.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You mean like the balanced budgets from Reagan and the to Bush's?

Reagan presided with a DEMOCRAT Congress. Bush's spending was due to the worst terrorist attack in our history and the related wars. But we Republicans were still upset over the spending.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Republicans are so full of crap when it comes to budgets.

The Congress has been spending less and less since they took leadership. See the above chart.

 

[rightwinger]

You mean like the balanced budgets from Reagan and the to Bush's?

Reagan presided with a DEMOCRAT Congress. Bush's spending was due to the worst terrorist attack in our history and the related wars. But we Republicans were still upset over the spending.

Excuses, excuses

 

[Indeependent]

Republicans are so full of crap when it comes to budgets.

The Congress has been spending less and less since they took leadership. See the above chart.

Of course they have.
After making our border porous and making off-shoring a write off and inviting 3 million business visas to replace Americans.
Now that people need help, the Republicans say, "Screw you!".

 

[bripat9643]

How does that alter the fact the Obama has racked up $9 trillion in new debt?

It alters the fact because it s blatantly obvious that Republicans will do nothing to change it

Republicans in 1995 proposed the balanced budget amendment which would have made it so congress didn't get paid, if the Federal budget was in deficit. Let's review a little history, shall we?

Although the balanced budget amendment had not been a major issue nationally for several years, it provided a striking contrast between Daschle’s first campaign in 1978 and his early career in Congress, when he consistently promoted the amendment, and his later years in the Senate. During his last competitive Senate bid in 1986, Daschle ran a television ad saying that “in 1979, Tom Daschle saw the damage these deficits could do to our country. His first official act was to sponsor a Constitutional amendment to balance the budget.” In 1992, Daschle’s campaign literature touted the “Daschle Plan,” which included the balanced budget amendment: “In 1979, before it became popular, I was pushing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. It was my first official action, and I’ve authored or coauthored one every year.” In 1995, the amendment had the support of sixty-six of the sixty-seven senators needed for passage, but Daschle voted against it because of opposition from the Clinton administration…. When pressed on the amendment in the last [2004] television debate, Daschle said that he had opposed the bill in the 1990s because there were no provisions in the amendment allowing for emergencies such as war. But the record showed that there was an emergency clause
​

So Bill Clinton, your hero and rapist, pressed Tom Daschle and other democraps, to oppose the balanced budget amendment that was proposed by REPUBLICANS. Not democraps.

This after Daschle ran on a political platform of opposing deficits, and promoting exactly that type of amendment.

Daschle then boldly lied that the amendment didn't have any clause for emergencies or war, when the congressional record clearly proved he lied..... which isn't surprising given he is of the party of liars, like Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and now you. You are a liar.

Republicans have consistently been trying to do something about budget deficits, and you are a liar.

Why do you need an amendment to balance the budget?

Show you can actually do it for 5-10 years and then consider an amendment

Yeah, and Obama had deficits over a trillion dollars a year, for 3 or 4 years, and you want "others" to "show you can actually do it".

Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

This nation has only added 17 amendments in the last 220 years. Amendments are rare and difficult to do

A balanced budget is a simple thing to do. Why is Congress wasting it's time on an amendment rather than just do its job?

Then why didn't Obama do it? He didn't come within a mile of a balanced budget.

 

[Indeependent]

It alters the fact because it s blatantly obvious that Republicans will do nothing to change it

Republicans in 1995 proposed the balanced budget amendment which would have made it so congress didn't get paid, if the Federal budget was in deficit. Let's review a little history, shall we?

Although the balanced budget amendment had not been a major issue nationally for several years, it provided a striking contrast between Daschle’s first campaign in 1978 and his early career in Congress, when he consistently promoted the amendment, and his later years in the Senate. During his last competitive Senate bid in 1986, Daschle ran a television ad saying that “in 1979, Tom Daschle saw the damage these deficits could do to our country. His first official act was to sponsor a Constitutional amendment to balance the budget.” In 1992, Daschle’s campaign literature touted the “Daschle Plan,” which included the balanced budget amendment: “In 1979, before it became popular, I was pushing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. It was my first official action, and I’ve authored or coauthored one every year.” In 1995, the amendment had the support of sixty-six of the sixty-seven senators needed for passage, but Daschle voted against it because of opposition from the Clinton administration…. When pressed on the amendment in the last [2004] television debate, Daschle said that he had opposed the bill in the 1990s because there were no provisions in the amendment allowing for emergencies such as war. But the record showed that there was an emergency clause
​

So Bill Clinton, your hero and rapist, pressed Tom Daschle and other democraps, to oppose the balanced budget amendment that was proposed by REPUBLICANS. Not democraps.

This after Daschle ran on a political platform of opposing deficits, and promoting exactly that type of amendment.

Daschle then boldly lied that the amendment didn't have any clause for emergencies or war, when the congressional record clearly proved he lied..... which isn't surprising given he is of the party of liars, like Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and now you. You are a liar.

Republicans have consistently been trying to do something about budget deficits, and you are a liar.

Why do you need an amendment to balance the budget?

Show you can actually do it for 5-10 years and then consider an amendment

Yeah, and Obama had deficits over a trillion dollars a year, for 3 or 4 years, and you want "others" to "show you can actually do it".

Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

This nation has only added 17 amendments in the last 220 years. Amendments are rare and difficult to do

A balanced budget is a simple thing to do. Why is Congress wasting it's time on an amendment rather than just do its job?

Then why didn't Obama do it? He didn't come within a mile of a balanced budget.

Cause they're all owned and full of garbage.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Of course they have.
After making our border porous and making off-shoring a write off and inviting 3 million business visas to replace Americans.
Now that people need help, the Republicans say, "Screw you!".

Come on, that's BS and you know it. How did "Republicans" make our border porous? If anything, that was DumBama and the Democrats.

And no, there are no tax write-offs for offshoring. If a company wishes to relocate, they can write-off moving expenses and that's it. It doesn't matter if they move from New York to Texas or from Minnesota to Vietnam.

 

[bripat9643]

Republicans in 1995 proposed the balanced budget amendment which would have made it so congress didn't get paid, if the Federal budget was in deficit. Let's review a little history, shall we?

Although the balanced budget amendment had not been a major issue nationally for several years, it provided a striking contrast between Daschle’s first campaign in 1978 and his early career in Congress, when he consistently promoted the amendment, and his later years in the Senate. During his last competitive Senate bid in 1986, Daschle ran a television ad saying that “in 1979, Tom Daschle saw the damage these deficits could do to our country. His first official act was to sponsor a Constitutional amendment to balance the budget.” In 1992, Daschle’s campaign literature touted the “Daschle Plan,” which included the balanced budget amendment: “In 1979, before it became popular, I was pushing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. It was my first official action, and I’ve authored or coauthored one every year.” In 1995, the amendment had the support of sixty-six of the sixty-seven senators needed for passage, but Daschle voted against it because of opposition from the Clinton administration…. When pressed on the amendment in the last [2004] television debate, Daschle said that he had opposed the bill in the 1990s because there were no provisions in the amendment allowing for emergencies such as war. But the record showed that there was an emergency clause
​

So Bill Clinton, your hero and rapist, pressed Tom Daschle and other democraps, to oppose the balanced budget amendment that was proposed by REPUBLICANS. Not democraps.

This after Daschle ran on a political platform of opposing deficits, and promoting exactly that type of amendment.

Daschle then boldly lied that the amendment didn't have any clause for emergencies or war, when the congressional record clearly proved he lied..... which isn't surprising given he is of the party of liars, like Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and now you. You are a liar.

Republicans have consistently been trying to do something about budget deficits, and you are a liar.

Why do you need an amendment to balance the budget?

Show you can actually do it for 5-10 years and then consider an amendment

Yeah, and Obama had deficits over a trillion dollars a year, for 3 or 4 years, and you want "others" to "show you can actually do it".

Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

This nation has only added 17 amendments in the last 220 years. Amendments are rare and difficult to do

A balanced budget is a simple thing to do. Why is Congress wasting it's time on an amendment rather than just do its job?

Because your "rather simple thing to do" your democrats didn't do. Again, you had years of complete control over government, to prove your "rather simple thing to do", and it didn't happen did it?

Oh and who was in charge of the Federal budget in the late 1990s? Republicans. We've had more experience getting that "simple thing to do" done, than you have.

Congress: We give up, we can't do our jobs, we need an amendment to force us

If Congress can't do a simple thing like pass a budget, what makes anyone think they can reach an agreement on a balanced budget amendment?

Here is why it can't pass

Republicans: If a balanced budget is not passed, automatic spending cuts take place

Democtrats: If a balanced budget is not passed, automatic tax increases take place

It isn't Congress that needs the amendment. It's the American people. Congress has demonstrated that it's incapable of exercising fiscal responsibility. How many more years do you need to have it demonstrated for you?

And you are right, Congress will never pass such an amendment. That's why we need an article V convention.

 

[rightwinger]

It alters the fact because it s blatantly obvious that Republicans will do nothing to change it

Republicans in 1995 proposed the balanced budget amendment which would have made it so congress didn't get paid, if the Federal budget was in deficit. Let's review a little history, shall we?

Although the balanced budget amendment had not been a major issue nationally for several years, it provided a striking contrast between Daschle’s first campaign in 1978 and his early career in Congress, when he consistently promoted the amendment, and his later years in the Senate. During his last competitive Senate bid in 1986, Daschle ran a television ad saying that “in 1979, Tom Daschle saw the damage these deficits could do to our country. His first official act was to sponsor a Constitutional amendment to balance the budget.” In 1992, Daschle’s campaign literature touted the “Daschle Plan,” which included the balanced budget amendment: “In 1979, before it became popular, I was pushing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. It was my first official action, and I’ve authored or coauthored one every year.” In 1995, the amendment had the support of sixty-six of the sixty-seven senators needed for passage, but Daschle voted against it because of opposition from the Clinton administration…. When pressed on the amendment in the last [2004] television debate, Daschle said that he had opposed the bill in the 1990s because there were no provisions in the amendment allowing for emergencies such as war. But the record showed that there was an emergency clause
​

So Bill Clinton, your hero and rapist, pressed Tom Daschle and other democraps, to oppose the balanced budget amendment that was proposed by REPUBLICANS. Not democraps.

This after Daschle ran on a political platform of opposing deficits, and promoting exactly that type of amendment.

Daschle then boldly lied that the amendment didn't have any clause for emergencies or war, when the congressional record clearly proved he lied..... which isn't surprising given he is of the party of liars, like Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and now you. You are a liar.

Republicans have consistently been trying to do something about budget deficits, and you are a liar.

Why do you need an amendment to balance the budget?

Show you can actually do it for 5-10 years and then consider an amendment

Yeah, and Obama had deficits over a trillion dollars a year, for 3 or 4 years, and you want "others" to "show you can actually do it".

Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

This nation has only added 17 amendments in the last 220 years. Amendments are rare and difficult to do

A balanced budget is a simple thing to do. Why is Congress wasting it's time on an amendment rather than just do its job?

Then why didn't Obama do it? He didn't come within a mile of a balanced budget.

Why?

Because trying to balance a budget with a country fighting off an economic collapse is a fucking stupid thing to do

 

[Indeependent]

Of course they have.
After making our border porous and making off-shoring a write off and inviting 3 million business visas to replace Americans.
Now that people need help, the Republicans say, "Screw you!".

Come on, that's BS and you know it. How did "Republicans" make our border porous? If anything, that was DumBama and the Democrats.

And no, there are no tax write-offs for offshoring. If a company wishes to relocate, they can write-off moving expenses and that's it. It doesn't matter if they move from New York to Texas or from Minnesota to Vietnam.

Bullshit...It all started under GW.
You ever notice how CAREFUL Republicans are with legislation until it comes to allowing OFF-SHORING.
Them all of a sudden, they WEREN'T so careful.
Give me a break.

 

[Conservative65]

So who owns the massive job and career losses that occurred under GW and thus created the need for ACA?

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

I realize it's Sunday, but damn, how drunk are you?

The more socialism fucks up the economy, the more you demand more of it to solve the problem.

Maybe at some point you stop trying to cure a drunk with more vodka, ya think?

Independent's mentality is like putting those that fucked up the school systems in charge of fixing them. If they are capable of fixing it, they wouldn't have fucked it up to start with.

It took the buy-out of the government by the wealthy to create the conditions we have today.
There is virtually no way out of this situation.

Sure there is. You provide yours, I provide mine, and if you want to provide someone else's on their behalf, do so. No government involvement.

 

[Indeependent]

There is no need for government to be involved in healthcare coverage.

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

I realize it's Sunday, but damn, how drunk are you?

The more socialism fucks up the economy, the more you demand more of it to solve the problem.

Maybe at some point you stop trying to cure a drunk with more vodka, ya think?

Independent's mentality is like putting those that fucked up the school systems in charge of fixing them. If they are capable of fixing it, they wouldn't have fucked it up to start with.

It took the buy-out of the government by the wealthy to create the conditions we have today.
There is virtually no way out of this situation.

Sure there is. You provide yours, I provide mine, and if you want to provide someone else's on their behalf, do so. No government involvement.

Government bought out by Business = Business with no controls.
Either scenario ends up in disaster.

 

[Conservative65]

Proves your claim incorrect.

Trump hasn't been President. Obama has and the debt has almost doubled.

Obama is not running, Trump is

If Republicans are as upset about debt as they claim ...why do none of their plans reduce it?

Hillary is running on Obama's record, douche bag. Quit pretending he had nothing to do with the debt.

You keep ducking

Republicans were obsessed with the national debt the whole Obama presidency. They have controlled Congress for two years and Trump does nothing to reduce debt.....only slash taxes on the rich

How does that alter the fact the Obama has racked up $9 trillion in new debt?

It alters the fact because it s blatantly obvious that Republicans will do nothing to change it

It is? Prove your SPECULATION.

 

[Conservative65]

So government shouldn't force hospitals to care for trespassers.
On the other hand, the Free Market is responsible for mass under and unemployment.
Will the Free Market clean up and bury all the dead bodies?

I realize it's Sunday, but damn, how drunk are you?

The more socialism fucks up the economy, the more you demand more of it to solve the problem.

Maybe at some point you stop trying to cure a drunk with more vodka, ya think?

Independent's mentality is like putting those that fucked up the school systems in charge of fixing them. If they are capable of fixing it, they wouldn't have fucked it up to start with.

It took the buy-out of the government by the wealthy to create the conditions we have today.
There is virtually no way out of this situation.

Sure there is. You provide yours, I provide mine, and if you want to provide someone else's on their behalf, do so. No government involvement.

Government bought out by Business = Business with no controls.
Either scenario ends up in disaster.

No, you sold it to the government. They can't buy unless you were willing to sell.