Zone1 Can someone explain this to me?

[TNHarley]

So most American blacks identify as "African American" even though most of them have never seen Africa. Many probably didn't have a grandparent that saw Africa, yet, they claim it instead of just being "American"
My question is, why do they show loyalty to a continent that sold their ancestors into slavery?
If it was me, I wouldn't claim Africa. Why do they? I don't understand it.

 

[rightwinger]

How many Irish Americans have been to Ireland?

 

[Calypso Jones]

So most American blacks identify as "African American" even though most of them have never seen Africa. Many probably didn't have a grandparent that saw Africa, yet, they claim it instead of just being "American"
My question is, why do they show loyalty to a continent that sold their ancestors into slavery?
If it was me, I wouldn't claim Africa. Why do they? I don't understand it.

They don't understand history or true history or even truth. It's getting better though...many are wising up.

 

[Calypso Jones]

How many Irish Americans have been to Ireland?

They're don't hate this country and suck the welfare system dry. Neither do we support their babies.

 

[Hossfly]

How many Irish Americans have been to Ireland?

Just one and they threw him in jail.

 

[Oddball]

So most American blacks identify as "African American" even though most of them have never seen Africa. Many probably didn't have a grandparent that saw Africa, yet, they claim it instead of just being "American"
My question is, why do they show loyalty to a continent that sold their ancestors into slavery?
If it was me, I wouldn't claim Africa. Why do they? I don't understand it.

Hyphenation makes it easier to look at the differences, instead of what brings us all together.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Just one and they threw him in jail.

Kennedy was Irish. LOLOL

 

[White 6]

So most American blacks identify as "African American" even though most of them have never seen Africa. Many probably didn't have a grandparent that saw Africa, yet, they claim it instead of just being "American"
My question is, why do they show loyalty to a continent that sold their ancestors into slavery?
If it was me, I wouldn't claim Africa. Why do they? I don't understand it.

Most around here don't have a great-great-grandparent that saw Africa, Harley. I have met grandparents in their mid 30s in this city.

 

[JGalt]

Using the hyphenated term "African-American" would make that person a blatant chauvinist and a nationalist, which is probably not a very good connotation.

They should be added to the Anti-Defamation League's list, along with the Christian Nationalists, White Nationalists, Nation of Islam and other groups the ADL considers to be "hate groups."

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[Couchpotato]

How many Irish Americans have been to Ireland?

How many white people do you refer to as Irish Americans?

 

[The Duke]

So most American blacks identify as "African American" even though most of them have never seen Africa. Many probably didn't have a grandparent that saw Africa, yet, they claim it instead of just being "American"
My question is, why do they show loyalty to a continent that sold their ancestors into slavery?
If it was me, I wouldn't claim Africa. Why do they? I don't understand it.

I got one song to set you right about that. And no, black Americans are not "African Americans".

Yeah, no song here. This is Zone 1 and I think it'd violate some rule or something.

They're black Americans. Some of their ancestors were from Britain, even. Now I know some African Americans, they're of Dutch Boer descent, and white. Obama started that "African American" bullshit, and that's exactly what it is. Black Americans ain't no foreigners
to this country, they've been here since the beginning. They're as American as anyone else here.
Moreso than like Italians and all early 20th century immigrants, and that's how it is. They were here from jump,
a lot of their ancestors were. Especially in The South.

 

[petro]

No way around it.
Hyphens are stupid.

 

[petro]

Elon Musk is a real African American.

 

[The Duke]

Most around here don't have a great-great-grandparent that saw Africa, Harley. I have met grandparents in their mid 30s in this city.

That would make the great-great grandparents from America, no?

Not anywhere else.

 

[White 6]

That would make the great-great grandparents from America, no?

Not anywhere else.

Correct.

 

[IM2]

Why are whites so concerned about what we call ourselves? And there are whites who call themselves Irish-American, German-Americans, Italian-Americans. You do it every time you talk about your ancestry. African-American denotes our ancestry. You guys talk about where you immigrated from. How many of you have even been to the country of your family's origin?

 

[IM2]

Most around here don't have a great-great-grandparent that saw Africa, Harley. I have met grandparents in their mid 30s in this city.

How many white descendants of immigrants have seen the land of there ancestry.?

This is a race bait thread and you're adding to it.

 

[White 6]

How many white descendants of immigrants have seen the land of there ancestry.?

This is a race bait thread and you're adding to it.

Sorry. But, you never hear me describing myself as an Irish American. I'm just American. That is the way it is, if you are American. I really don't care if you are black. I really don't care if people are gay, or bi, or trans, either, as long as not trying rub my face in it. I care if you are a decent person, not an asshole. I care if you have decent values in the way you handle yourself and interact with others. I care whether you can be counted on by decent people. I care whether you handle your responsibilities and hold yourself responsible for your actions. I care whether you honor yourself enough to keep your word. I care whether you can be trusted not to steal or attack. I give not a rats ass for (insert national origin here) American. Oh, and I have only flown over the land of my ancestors, never landed there. My ancestor were probably good people, but they weren't American until they came here and became Americans.

 

[BackAgain]

Why are whites so concerned about what we call ourselves? And there are whites who call themselves Irish-American, German-Americans, Italian-Americans. You do it every time you talk about your ancestry. African-American denotes our ancestry. You guys talk about where you immigrated from. How many of you have even been to the country of your family's origin?

Why do you care what white people express concern about?

As for African-American’s, it is crucial to identify as African-Americans. Because otherwise, how would anyone know that any African-Americans had come from Africa.

 

[IM2]

So most American blacks identify as "African American" even though most of them have never seen Africa. Many probably didn't have a grandparent that saw Africa, yet, they claim it instead of just being "American"
My question is, why do they show loyalty to a continent that sold their ancestors into slavery?
If it was me, I wouldn't claim Africa. Why do they? I don't understand it.

Africans didn’t sell Africans. A group of Kingdoms in West Africa sold war captives into slavery. Blaming the whole of Africa for what West Africa did is ridiculous.

But most importantly, saying Africans sold Africans is a very colonialist view of Africa. The colonialists view Africa as just one humongous country. One huge country with homogeneous citizens, homogeneous culture and custom.

That view of Africa is so pervasive that Time Magazine once wrote a whole article about the “Africa’s Drinking Problem” based on data from just TWO AFRICAN COUNTRIES. Times wouldn’t have generalized something about Europe from data just two European countries. But it did about Africa because for many Westerners, Africa is a country.

Of course, Africa is not a country. It is a continent made up FIFTY-FOUR countries with different cultures, languages, and religions.

Also, the claim Africans sold Africans erases a major reason why some Africans were selling some other Africans: it was because these people were not part of their tribe, their culture. Africans were not selling their fellow Africans. Instead citizens of one kingdom were selling citizens of another kingdom.

Africans did not sell their own people into slavery

www.africaw.com

Essay: Did Africans Sell Other Africans Into Slavery?

Africa’s Role in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade

blackresearchersunited.net

They Lied to Us: Africa did not Sell Africans into Slavery – The Warsan

thewarsan.com

When the British enslaved the Irish, do whites consider that as whites enslaving each other? When whites had World Wars, did whites describe this as whites slaughtering each other? No. Whites have accurately been able to describe the exact countries who were fighting. But when it comes to this, we have to read idiocy whites use as excuses to deny their participation in slavery.

According to this information , 389,000 slaves landed on the shores of what is now America. By 1860, there were four million slaves living here. The importation of slaves was made illegal in 1808. So from 1808 until 1860, the number of slaves increased by at least one thousand percent. If we allow for the Africans selling each other, Africans would be responsible for approximately 389 thousand slaves. What about the 3.1-4 million additional slaves? Africans did not create them.

The white controlled slave breeding "industry" IN AMERICA created 10 times more blacks than the number that came from Africans who "sold other Africans".

So let's end repeating the ignorance you read on various alt right, right wing, or white supremacist websites. None of it is factual.

Irish American Heritage Museum

irish-us.org