Can someone please get Giuliani's nursing home room ready?

Uh-oh.

TrumpCo is walking back their denials of Russian collusion. This can't be good.

Rudy Giuliani: ‘I never said there was no collusion’ between Trump campaign and Russia

We're in real Orwell territory now, kids.
Now? We were in full Orwell, when the Obama admin began a covert op against a presidential candidate.
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I'm sorry, did I disturb the narrative? Relight your hair and flail on.
The only thing that is disturbed is your sense of reality...

But lets play this out.....Are you saying that Obama is so brilliant and powerful that he can make republicans indict half of Trump's administration and campaign?

Obama? The gay guy born in Kenya with the transgendered wife and fake kids, him? Why is Trump so much of a weakling and idiot that he couldn't stop Obama?
Because if his accusations are yours, they are lies.
Uh-oh.

TrumpCo is walking back their denials of Russian collusion. This can't be good.

Rudy Giuliani: ‘I never said there was no collusion’ between Trump campaign and Russia

We're in real Orwell territory now, kids.
Now? We were in full Orwell, when the Obama admin began a covert op against a presidential candidate.
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I'm sorry, did I disturb the narrative? Relight your hair and flail on.
No, you just don't have one. Which is good. We don't want you to have one. It just means that Republicans have no counter argument to this conspiracy.
 
Doesn't matter. They are one; Rudy Giuliani: I never said there was no collusion by Trump campaign

And by the way, anyone with a functioning brain knows what Trump and Giuliani have been saying for a year and a half.
You want to debate, show us where I am wrong? Giuliani is wrong. Campaign or Trump; doesn't matter. Now give us the legal precedent proving it wrong. I'll be waiting.

No more word salad and distortions. Just legal talk. Go!
Still waiting?
Waiting on what?
Do you want to argue with yourself?
Lol! I knew you didn't have the balls or the counter arguments to debate the thread topic. See you loser.
Who said i even thought you were wrong you moron?
You are just being all offensive cause your ass got punked out in the bull ring

Again, you wanted to debate, and told me to choose the debate. I did that, and you didn't. You're full of shit. Come back when you have something intelligent to talk about..
 
Uh-oh.

TrumpCo is walking back their denials of Russian collusion. This can't be good.

Rudy Giuliani: ‘I never said there was no collusion’ between Trump campaign and Russia

We're in real Orwell territory now, kids.
Now? We were in full Orwell, when the Obama admin began a covert op against a presidential candidate.
View attachment 240618
I'm sorry, did I disturb the narrative? Relight your hair and flail on.
The only thing that is disturbed is your sense of reality...

But lets play this out.....Are you saying that Obama is so brilliant and powerful that he can make republicans indict half of Trump's administration and campaign?

Obama? The gay guy born in Kenya with the transgendered wife and fake kids, him? Why is Trump so much of a weakling and idiot that he couldn't stop Obama?

well yeah - throw in a fat, ugly, crooked, lying bitch, killer, BUT HILLARY and you have a daily double Trump couldn't handle.
Off topic salad bs distractions from a coward.
 
Was there any strategy behind Rudy's latest remarks?

"No collusion, no collusion" is all we heard from Giuliani and Trump for months. Now Giuliani said he never said there was no collusion. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: Someone needs to get the straight jacket for Giuliani immediately. However, on the flip side, Giuliani is the gift that keeps on giving for the Mueller investigation. Heck, we don't need Mueller. We just just need Giuliani to take us straight to the conspiracy with Russia and Trump. Lol! This administration will go down not only as the worst and most corrupt, but insanely stupid.
/----/ Rudy represents Trump and only Trump. Rudy does not represent nor speak for the Trump Campaign. When Rudy said no concussion he means with his client Donald Trump. I know legal stuff is complicated.
Nice try, Orwell.

See post 18.
 
You want to debate, show us where I am wrong? Giuliani is wrong. Campaign or Trump; doesn't matter. Now give us the legal precedent proving it wrong. I'll be waiting.

No more word salad and distortions. Just legal talk. Go!
Still waiting?
Waiting on what?
Do you want to argue with yourself?
Lol! I knew you didn't have the balls or the counter arguments to debate the thread topic. See you loser.
Who said i even thought you were wrong you moron?
You are just being all offensive cause your ass got punked out in the bull ring

Again, you wanted to debate, and told me to choose the debate. I did that, and you didn't. You're full of shit. Come back when you have something intelligent to talk about..
Talking about what someone said isnt structured debate, you dilapidated bag of dumbfuck!
 
Was he referring to trump or trumps admin?
Rudy has long denied collusion by the Trump CAMPAIGN. Not just Trump.

Now he's denying he denied collusion.

He's gone full schizo. It won't be long before the Trumptards follow his lead.
 
Now? We were in full Orwell, when the Obama admin began a covert op against a presidential candidate.
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I'm sorry, did I disturb the narrative? Relight your hair and flail on.
The only thing that is disturbed is your sense of reality...

But lets play this out.....Are you saying that Obama is so brilliant and powerful that he can make republicans indict half of Trump's administration and campaign?

Obama? The gay guy born in Kenya with the transgendered wife and fake kids, him? Why is Trump so much of a weakling and idiot that he couldn't stop Obama?
Are you saying that Trump is so intelligent and crafty that he could pull off stealing an election and leave virtually no finger prints to find over two years of a massive investigation?
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
 
(A) "Collusion" is not a crime. Even if there was "collusion," it was likely no big deal. Someone on the Trump campaign spoke with Assange, and concurred with the dates of their data dump. Collusion? Probably. Criminal conspiracy. NFW.

(B) The definition of "The Trump Campaign" can be very broad indeed. Formal, paid advisors, informal, unpaid advisors, advocates in the Media (e.g., Ann Coulter?). Trump himself may not even be aware of some of the people who might later be considered as part of his "campaign staff."

(C) No one could ever confidently say that no one connected with the Trump campaign ever "colluded" with anyone even remotely associated with the Russian government. The possibilities are simply too broad.

(D) Guiliani's recent statement simply covers that possibility.

No. Big. Deal.
And here we see one of the Trumptards following Rudy down the rabbit hole already!
 
I'm sorry, did I disturb the narrative? Relight your hair and flail on.
The only thing that is disturbed is your sense of reality...

But lets play this out.....Are you saying that Obama is so brilliant and powerful that he can make republicans indict half of Trump's administration and campaign?

Obama? The gay guy born in Kenya with the transgendered wife and fake kids, him? Why is Trump so much of a weakling and idiot that he couldn't stop Obama?
Are you saying that Trump is so intelligent and crafty that he could pull off stealing an election and leave virtually no finger prints to find over two years of a massive investigation?
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
I have always doubted, and still do, that Trump directly colluded with Putin. However, I am becoming more and more convinced Trump was aware of the collusion by others, including his own son.
 
Still waiting?
Waiting on what?
Do you want to argue with yourself?
Lol! I knew you didn't have the balls or the counter arguments to debate the thread topic. See you loser.
Who said i even thought you were wrong you moron?
You are just being all offensive cause your ass got punked out in the bull ring

Again, you wanted to debate, and told me to choose the debate. I did that, and you didn't. You're full of shit. Come back when you have something intelligent to talk about..
Talking about what someone said isnt structured debate, you dilapidated bag of dumbfuck!
Really? How so? This isn't just "someone said" boss. This is Trumps lawyer putting his foot in his mouth contradicting two years worth of false claims. Lol! When the horns have been blowing about no collusion no collusion by Trump and Giuliani, then, go and present us with a word salad we haven't heard before, you or anyone else is stuck on retarded to think Giuliani didn't admit to what they have been denying for two years. This is what grade A stupidity from Republican Sheep looks like folks. Remember this post, because it's a doozy. And we heard it straight from the horses mouth. What a straight fuckin retard.
 
I'm sorry, did I disturb the narrative? Relight your hair and flail on.
The only thing that is disturbed is your sense of reality...

But lets play this out.....Are you saying that Obama is so brilliant and powerful that he can make republicans indict half of Trump's administration and campaign?

Obama? The gay guy born in Kenya with the transgendered wife and fake kids, him? Why is Trump so much of a weakling and idiot that he couldn't stop Obama?
Are you saying that Trump is so intelligent and crafty that he could pull off stealing an election and leave virtually no finger prints to find over two years of a massive investigation?
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
I have always doubted, and still do, that Trump directly colluded with Putin. However, I am becoming more and more convinced Trump was aware of the collusion by others, including his own son.
I have said many times that Trump did NOT knowingly collude with Russia; nor would Putin be stupid enough to involve Trump in any tangible conspiracy scheme.

What I do think happened is Trump is so much of a kleptocrat that he wanted to use his run for president (not winning the election) as a chance to enrich himself and Putin was all too happy to help; because Putin knows kleptos when he sees one because he is one.
 
I'm sorry, did I disturb the narrative? Relight your hair and flail on.
The only thing that is disturbed is your sense of reality...

But lets play this out.....Are you saying that Obama is so brilliant and powerful that he can make republicans indict half of Trump's administration and campaign?

Obama? The gay guy born in Kenya with the transgendered wife and fake kids, him? Why is Trump so much of a weakling and idiot that he couldn't stop Obama?
Are you saying that Trump is so intelligent and crafty that he could pull off stealing an election and leave virtually no finger prints to find over two years of a massive investigation?
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
I have always doubted, and still do, that Trump directly colluded with Putin. However, I am becoming more and more convinced Trump was aware of the collusion by others, including his own son.
It is virtually a physical impossibility for him not to know when the Trump Tower meeting was one floor level below. And with Trump concocting a story on Air Force One to say it was about opposition research, when he corroborated the story with Jr. that it was about adoptions, leaves zero doubt. He also said in Helsinki it was about adoptions. Wait a minute Trump said it was about opposition research. Oops! Sorry, but there is no wiggle room there. None!

Oh, and by the way, Trump doesn't have to directly be part of the conspiracy for it to be a conspiracy. His campaign makes him just as guilty and more.
 
The only thing that is disturbed is your sense of reality...

But lets play this out.....Are you saying that Obama is so brilliant and powerful that he can make republicans indict half of Trump's administration and campaign?

Obama? The gay guy born in Kenya with the transgendered wife and fake kids, him? Why is Trump so much of a weakling and idiot that he couldn't stop Obama?
Are you saying that Trump is so intelligent and crafty that he could pull off stealing an election and leave virtually no finger prints to find over two years of a massive investigation?
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
I have always doubted, and still do, that Trump directly colluded with Putin. However, I am becoming more and more convinced Trump was aware of the collusion by others, including his own son.
It is virtually a physical impossibility for him not to know when the Trump Tower meeting was one floor level below. And with Trump concocting a story on Air Force One to say it was about opposition research, when he corroborated the story with Jr. that it was about adoptions, leaves zero doubt. He also said in Helsinki it was about adoptions. Wait a minute Trump said it was about opposition research. Oops! Sorry, but there is no wiggle room there. None!

Oh, and by the way, Trump doesn't have to directly be part of the conspiracy for it to be a conspiracy. His campaign makes him just as guilty and more.
Right.

The same day Junior agreed to meet with the Russian cutouts to receive dirt on Hillary, Donald Trump announced to the world that he was going to have some news about Hillary the following Monday and said the press would want to be there bigly.

When the meeting didn't pan out any immediate dirt on Clinton, Trump never held his press conference.

That more than anything else has convinced me he was in the collusion loop.
 
The only thing that is disturbed is your sense of reality...

But lets play this out.....Are you saying that Obama is so brilliant and powerful that he can make republicans indict half of Trump's administration and campaign?

Obama? The gay guy born in Kenya with the transgendered wife and fake kids, him? Why is Trump so much of a weakling and idiot that he couldn't stop Obama?
Are you saying that Trump is so intelligent and crafty that he could pull off stealing an election and leave virtually no finger prints to find over two years of a massive investigation?
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
I have always doubted, and still do, that Trump directly colluded with Putin. However, I am becoming more and more convinced Trump was aware of the collusion by others, including his own son.
I have said many times that Trump did NOT knowingly collude with Russia; nor would Putin be stupid enough to involve Trump in any tangible conspiracy scheme.

What I do think happened is Trump is so much of a kleptocrat that he wanted to use his run for president (not winning the election) as a chance to enrich himself and Putin was all too happy to help; because Putin knows kleptos when he sees one because he is one.
He knowingly knew. It just takes simple logic and an understanding of the chain of events to figure it out. My last post clearly makes that possible.
 
Are you saying that Trump is so intelligent and crafty that he could pull off stealing an election and leave virtually no finger prints to find over two years of a massive investigation?
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
I have always doubted, and still do, that Trump directly colluded with Putin. However, I am becoming more and more convinced Trump was aware of the collusion by others, including his own son.
It is virtually a physical impossibility for him not to know when the Trump Tower meeting was one floor level below. And with Trump concocting a story on Air Force One to say it was about opposition research, when he corroborated the story with Jr. that it was about adoptions, leaves zero doubt. He also said in Helsinki it was about adoptions. Wait a minute Trump said it was about opposition research. Oops! Sorry, but there is no wiggle room there. None!

Oh, and by the way, Trump doesn't have to directly be part of the conspiracy for it to be a conspiracy. His campaign makes him just as guilty and more.
Right.

The same day Junior agreed to meet with the Russian cutouts to receive dirt on Hillary, Donald Trump announced to the world that he was going to have some news about Hillary the following Monday and said the press would want to be there bigly.

When the meeting didn't pan out any immediate dirt on Clinton, Trump never held his press conference.

That more than anything else has convinced me he was in the collusion loop.


If you actually cared about collusion between our politicians and foreign governments there are a lot more egregious examples out there then "tried to get some dirt from the Russians"
 
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
I have always doubted, and still do, that Trump directly colluded with Putin. However, I am becoming more and more convinced Trump was aware of the collusion by others, including his own son.
It is virtually a physical impossibility for him not to know when the Trump Tower meeting was one floor level below. And with Trump concocting a story on Air Force One to say it was about opposition research, when he corroborated the story with Jr. that it was about adoptions, leaves zero doubt. He also said in Helsinki it was about adoptions. Wait a minute Trump said it was about opposition research. Oops! Sorry, but there is no wiggle room there. None!

Oh, and by the way, Trump doesn't have to directly be part of the conspiracy for it to be a conspiracy. His campaign makes him just as guilty and more.
Right.

The same day Junior agreed to meet with the Russian cutouts to receive dirt on Hillary, Donald Trump announced to the world that he was going to have some news about Hillary the following Monday and said the press would want to be there bigly.

When the meeting didn't pan out any immediate dirt on Clinton, Trump never held his press conference.

That more than anything else has convinced me he was in the collusion loop.


If you actually cared about collusion between our politicians and foreign governments there are a lot more egregious examples out there then "tried to get some dirt from the Russians"
There was a lot more than that going on by the colluders.

There was the hacking of the DNC emails and releasing them through wikileaks.

There is Mueller sharing campaign polling data with the Russians so they could use that information to manipulate their target audiences on social media.

Russia had whole teams working on interfering in our election.

More will be revealed by the Mueller report, I'm sure. Hopefully, Barr won't bury it.

 
Waiting on what?
Do you want to argue with yourself?
Lol! I knew you didn't have the balls or the counter arguments to debate the thread topic. See you loser.
Who said i even thought you were wrong you moron?
You are just being all offensive cause your ass got punked out in the bull ring

Again, you wanted to debate, and told me to choose the debate. I did that, and you didn't. You're full of shit. Come back when you have something intelligent to talk about..
Talking about what someone said isnt structured debate, you dilapidated bag of dumbfuck!
Really? How so? This isn't just "someone said" boss. This is Trumps lawyer putting his foot in his mouth contradicting two years worth of false claims. Lol! When the horns have been blowing about no collusion no collusion by Trump and Giuliani, then, go and present us with a word salad we haven't heard before, you or anyone else is stuck on retarded to think Giuliani didn't admit to what they have been denying for two years. This is what grade A stupidity from Republican Sheep looks like folks. Remember this post, because it's a doozy. And we heard it straight from the horses mouth. What a straight fuckin retard.
Dude, you are fucking insane. I didnt even comment on it, you fuckin dope
 
Are you saying that Trump is so intelligent and crafty that he could pull off stealing an election and leave virtually no finger prints to find over two years of a massive investigation?
There are fingerprints all over the place, retard. That's why Giuliani is walking back his denials of collusion.

Do try to catch up.
Time to impeach; The Atlantic makes the case for impeachment
I have always doubted, and still do, that Trump directly colluded with Putin. However, I am becoming more and more convinced Trump was aware of the collusion by others, including his own son.
It is virtually a physical impossibility for him not to know when the Trump Tower meeting was one floor level below. And with Trump concocting a story on Air Force One to say it was about opposition research, when he corroborated the story with Jr. that it was about adoptions, leaves zero doubt. He also said in Helsinki it was about adoptions. Wait a minute Trump said it was about opposition research. Oops! Sorry, but there is no wiggle room there. None!

Oh, and by the way, Trump doesn't have to directly be part of the conspiracy for it to be a conspiracy. His campaign makes him just as guilty and more.
Right.

The same day Junior agreed to meet with the Russian cutouts to receive dirt on Hillary, Donald Trump announced to the world that he was going to have some news about Hillary the following Monday and said the press would want to be there bigly.

When the meeting didn't pan out any immediate dirt on Clinton, Trump never held his press conference.

That more than anything else has convinced me he was in the collusion loop.
Exactly! This isn't rocket science. You just have to understand a little bit about how Trump thinks. That scheme was so obvious, even a cave man could have figured it out. Remember when Trump told the world that Republicans were the dumbest of the voting block? We'll, here is where he made his mistake. Not all Republicans were voting. He thought everyone would be so stupid that they wouldn't pick up on his scheme. Wrong! People figured it out quite easily actually.
 
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