Can The Students Be Silenced?

[Avatar4321]

View attachment 181670

One of the many students who are adamantly refusing to be silent.

Another leftist student manipulated by their leftist parents into believing they are safer relying on government to protect them when government failed in this case over and over and over and they were safer because government disarmed their teachers and administrators with CC permits.

This is just a fear post of the left. Rely on government, wait to die, do nothing for yourself

Oh, he’s doing plenty for himself. Y’all managed to wake a sleeping giant.

You want to wake a sleeping giant? Wait till you try to confiscate weapons

 

[Avatar4321]

No, it won't. Amazingly enough, mass shootings only require a tool capable of shooting, and an evil/crazy person willing to fire. (Of the two, the second one is really more important. You're a leftist, so I figured you wouldn't get that on your own.) Mass shootings can be and have been accomplished with guns other than the AR15.

And before you leap to, "Well, then, just ban all guns!" let me point out that MY goal - and it ought to be yours - is to prevent mass KILLINGS; it is not to merely change the method of them.

So, what solution do you have? People control? If so, how do you decide who should and who should not own, possess or have in their custody or control a gun?

There is no singular solution to our national disgrace. It requires men and women of good will to proffer ideas and evaluate their merit. Something unheard of on this thread, and on every thread related to gun violence.

1) Put people in jail who've had their right to buy a gun revoked with due process of law

2) We already have training and background checks for people with CC permits

What more than that is required?

The question is, what more is necessary. And I've argued licensing and registration.

And then when we ban CC permit holders from CCs shooters like Florida will be stopped and shooters won't be able to buy illegal guns either? Licensing and registration will make our kids safe? How would that have solved the Florida shooting since he shouldn't have had the right to buy a gun because he was a known psycho making threats and the government you love fucked up over and over and over?

Have you run all this by your drug dealer? Your theory that if you make things illegal then people can't get them? What did your drug dealer say about that?

Doing the same thing with the same results over and over is insane - which would disallow you to ever be licensed to own or possess a gun.

That's why you and other so obsessed with their guns hide behind the 2nd A., those of us not fearful of what a background check will reveal do not object to this common sense approach at people control.,

You’re right it is insane. So why continue to push gun control when we know it doesn’t work?

 

[jillian]

for s

View attachment 180910 You quickly hop on the warm bodies and politicize the tragedies.
There is no reason under the sun where any citizen should own AR-15's. None whatever.
Plus the 2nd amendment doesn't give you the right to own one either.
Every solution you idiots come up with is endorsed by the terrorist organization, the NRA because it improves their profit margins.
You're part of the problem not even close to the solution.
The #ENOUGH movement has legs. They're here to stay.

1) It wasn't the conservatives who practically trampled each other to get in front of the cameras and start screaming demands before the shooter's name was even known, and before the coroner even had a chance to zip up the body bags, Chuckles, so don't tell US about "hopping on warm bodies and politicizing".

2) There are the exact same reasons to own an AR15 as there are for any other gun. The fact that you think it looks and sounds scary means absolutely nothing.

3) Unless the 2nd Amendment suddenly developed an "emanation from the penumbras" in the last five minutes and now reads, "keep and bear arms, except for AR15s", it does, in fact, give us the right to own one.

4) If your negotiating position is "You can only offer options the NRA doesn't like", then you might as well go home and come back to the table when you're serious.

5) The fact that stupid, pointless shit never dies and continues to shamble around like a particularly brain-damaged zombie doesn't obligate anyone to take it seriously.

"Arms" include the weapons of war. Today's arms, notwithstanding Scalia's excessive defense in Heller, have an ability far beyond the imagination of those who signed off on the Bill of Rights. We've seen how effective an AR15 is in killing and maiming, common sense suggests such a weapon in the hands of untrained civilians of any age, is a foolish policy.

An ar15 is just a sporting rifle

I know that, and YOU know that, but SOME people can't get past the notion that it's some super-special, extraordinarily evil outlier that has somehow slipped through a loophole to prey on the unsuspecting public.

For some reason progressives think that firearms can kill without an operator/control operator possibly. It must be the public schools they went to… It must be a politically correct thing I cannot understand… LOL

for some reason NRA shills think they aren't subject to reasonable regulation.

morons.

 

[jillian]

View attachment 181670

One of the many students who are adamantly refusing to be silent.

Another leftist student manipulated by their leftist parents into believing they are safer relying on government to protect them when government failed in this case over and over and over and they were safer because government disarmed their teachers and administrators with CC permits.

This is just a fear post of the left. Rely on government, wait to die, do nothing for yourself

Oh, he’s doing plenty for himself. Y’all managed to wake a sleeping giant.

You want to wake a sleeping giant? Wait till you try to confiscate weapons

from crazy people, spouse abusers and felons?

tough.

 

[BlackSand]

Yes. And of course the "children" cannot be silenced, it's a free country. I'm sure you agree with that. But their strategy here

Leftist parents to their kids - all this time I've been teaching you leftism and how the first obligation of every leftist is to victimize ourselves first. This is your chance, you were in a terrible shooting. Go out and do it.

Leftist children - victimize themselves for leftism as they were taught

Leftists - OMG, look how courageous the children are!

There's nothing courageous about saying I'm a victim and I want my way because of it

How they pose their argument and gather support is something we need to encourage.
How we oppose and disassemble their argument ... Is equally important.

If we don't discuss the matter in the proper sense ... We aren't doing them or ourselves any favors.

We need to have this discussion with the children.
We need to enforce the idea that personal desires and insecurities are not sufficient cause to violate the rights of the masses.
We need to expose them to the idea that it is not within the purview or authority of the federal government to suit ones individual concerns.

They aren't being taught that in school anymore ... Someone needs to bring it to the table with them.
If we just tell them to shut up or that what they are saying isn't important ... Then nothing positive will come from that.

We have to have the discussion ... They need to learn what the public school system has no desire to inform them of.

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[Avatar4321]

1) Put people in jail who've had their right to buy a gun revoked with due process of law

2) We already have training and background checks for people with CC permits

What more than that is required?

The question is, what more is necessary. And I've argued licensing and registration.

And then when we ban CC permit holders from CCs shooters like Florida will be stopped and shooters won't be able to buy illegal guns either? Licensing and registration will make our kids safe? How would that have solved the Florida shooting since he shouldn't have had the right to buy a gun because he was a known psycho making threats and the government you love fucked up over and over and over?

Have you run all this by your drug dealer? Your theory that if you make things illegal then people can't get them? What did your drug dealer say about that?

Doing the same thing with the same results over and over is insane - which would disallow you to ever be licensed to own or possess a gun.

That's why you and other so obsessed with their guns hide behind the 2nd A., those of us not fearful of what a background check will reveal do not object to this common sense approach at people control.,

There is most likely well over 400 million firearms in the country legally, what percentage of those are used in violent crime? A fraction of a fraction of a fraction tops?

It seems the reader can infer you would never pass a background check, since you ignored that part of the post you quoted and proceeded to posted this off topic response.

What have you done to be so fearful of a background check?

Background checks are worthless if police, sheriffs, fbi, military etc don’t report the information they need correctly

 

[Avatar4321]

And then when we ban CC permit holders from CCs shooters like Florida will be stopped and shooters won't be able to buy illegal guns either? Licensing and registration will make our kids safe? How would that have solved the Florida shooting since he shouldn't have had the right to buy a gun because he was a known psycho making threats and the government you love fucked up over and over and over?

Have you run all this by your drug dealer? Your theory that if you make things illegal then people can't get them? What did your drug dealer say about that?

Doing the same thing with the same results over and over is insane - which would disallow you to ever be licensed to own or possess a gun.

That's why you and other so obsessed with their guns hide behind the 2nd A., those of us not fearful of what a background check will reveal do not object to this common sense approach at people control.,

What are you talking about? It just sounds like you're a bitter little man. What did some chick with an attitude beat you up? What happened to your balls that you can't defend yourself and you want government to do it for you?

How'd that work out for the 17 people who were murdered while your precious government waited outside?

I'm not bitter and I'm 6'2" and weigh 230 pounds, and I can still bench press my weight (not as many reps as I could 50 years ago). For the record my wife and I have been together since 1974; she's feisty but at 5'2" not capable of "beating me up".

So, once again you are full of shit, post off topic and use a logical fallacy.

You're just a sucker for a chick who's too quick to smack you in your glass jaw. You go down like a sack of potatoes.

So why do you want to disarm citizens and prevent us from defending ourselves and rely on government to do it for us if you're a tough guy?

Why do you have to spin Trump quotes to be racist when even you admit now you can't find any actual racist quote from him?

How'd relying on government to protect us work for 17 people in Florida?

Nice rant, too bad you are so dishonest, does your boyfriend know you lie so often?

You a homophobe now?

 

[kaz]

Yes. And of course the "children" cannot be silenced, it's a free country. I'm sure you agree with that. But their strategy here

Leftist parents to their kids - all this time I've been teaching you leftism and how the first obligation of every leftist is to victimize ourselves first. This is your chance, you were in a terrible shooting. Go out and do it.

Leftist children - victimize themselves for leftism as they were taught

Leftists - OMG, look how courageous the children are!

There's nothing courageous about saying I'm a victim and I want my way because of it

How they pose their argument and gather support is something we need to encourage.
How we oppose and disassemble their argument ... Is equally important.

If we don't discuss the matter in the proper sense ... We aren't doing them or ourselves any favors.

We need to have this discussion with the children.
We need to enforce the idea that personal desires and insecurities are not sufficient cause to violate the rights of the masses.
We need to expose them to the idea that it is not within the purview or authority of the federal government to suit ones individual concerns.

They aren't being taught that in school anymore ... Someone needs to bring it to the table with them.

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The teachers and administrators in there being shot with them were deprived of the right to have a gun to protect them. Florida has the highest CC permit rate in the country. Likely 15 or so people getting shot at were trained and carried a permit and could have had guns, and government prevented them from having them

Government screwed up repeatedly. The FBI didn't pass along information. Local cops didn't react to the information they had. The social worker who could have declared him a psycho didn't. The deputy on site not only didn't enter but told other cops arriving not to enter. The other cops arriving didn't enter.

That is all in the news. What kind of rational person would say thank the Lord for government and want more of that? Those kids have all that information now. And even after that, it doesn't phase the leftists.

So what's your plan exactly to bring reality to the table for them?

It seems to me that the leftists just had reality smacked across their face, and the leftists like their leftist parents didn't process it

 

[Wry Catcher]

The question is, what more is necessary. And I've argued licensing and registration.

And then when we ban CC permit holders from CCs shooters like Florida will be stopped and shooters won't be able to buy illegal guns either? Licensing and registration will make our kids safe? How would that have solved the Florida shooting since he shouldn't have had the right to buy a gun because he was a known psycho making threats and the government you love fucked up over and over and over?

Have you run all this by your drug dealer? Your theory that if you make things illegal then people can't get them? What did your drug dealer say about that?

Doing the same thing with the same results over and over is insane - which would disallow you to ever be licensed to own or possess a gun.

That's why you and other so obsessed with their guns hide behind the 2nd A., those of us not fearful of what a background check will reveal do not object to this common sense approach at people control.,

There is most likely well over 400 million firearms in the country legally, what percentage of those are used in violent crime? A fraction of a fraction of a fraction tops?

It seems the reader can infer you would never pass a background check, since you ignored that part of the post you quoted and proceeded to posted this off topic response.

What have you done to be so fearful of a background check?

Background checks are worthless if police, sheriffs, fbi, military etc don’t report the information they need correctly

Correct, and the Republican Party is unwilling to buck the NRA in making background checks much more comprehensive.

It the voter wants to reduce the amount of guns in the hands of those who should not have them, vote for the Democratic candidate for the H. or Rep.

 

[Avatar4321]

for s

1) It wasn't the conservatives who practically trampled each other to get in front of the cameras and start screaming demands before the shooter's name was even known, and before the coroner even had a chance to zip up the body bags, Chuckles, so don't tell US about "hopping on warm bodies and politicizing".

2) There are the exact same reasons to own an AR15 as there are for any other gun. The fact that you think it looks and sounds scary means absolutely nothing.

3) Unless the 2nd Amendment suddenly developed an "emanation from the penumbras" in the last five minutes and now reads, "keep and bear arms, except for AR15s", it does, in fact, give us the right to own one.

4) If your negotiating position is "You can only offer options the NRA doesn't like", then you might as well go home and come back to the table when you're serious.

5) The fact that stupid, pointless shit never dies and continues to shamble around like a particularly brain-damaged zombie doesn't obligate anyone to take it seriously.

"Arms" include the weapons of war. Today's arms, notwithstanding Scalia's excessive defense in Heller, have an ability far beyond the imagination of those who signed off on the Bill of Rights. We've seen how effective an AR15 is in killing and maiming, common sense suggests such a weapon in the hands of untrained civilians of any age, is a foolish policy.

An ar15 is just a sporting rifle

I know that, and YOU know that, but SOME people can't get past the notion that it's some super-special, extraordinarily evil outlier that has somehow slipped through a loophole to prey on the unsuspecting public.

For some reason progressives think that firearms can kill without an operator/control operator possibly. It must be the public schools they went to… It must be a politically correct thing I cannot understand… LOL

for some reason NRA shills think they aren't subject to reasonable regulation.

morons.

1) we know our constitutional rights
2) you wouldn’t know reasonable if it were in neon letters the side of a building

 

[BlackSand]

The teachers and administrators in there being shot with them were deprived of the right to have a gun to protect them. Florida has the highest CC permit rate in the country. Likely 15 or so people getting shot at were trained and carried a permit and could have had guns, and government prevented them from having them

Government screwed up repeatedly. The FBI didn't pass along information. Local cops didn't react to the information they had. The social worker who could have declared him a psycho didn't. The deputy on site not only didn't enter but told other cops arriving not to enter. The other cops arriving didn't enter.

That is all in the news. What kind of rational person would say thank the Lord for government and want more of that? Those kids have all that information now. And even after that, it doesn't phase the leftists.

So what's your plan exactly to bring reality to the table for them?

First and foremost we need to teach them that regardless the amount of shit anyone throws against the wall ... That doesn't change the authority to govern.

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[kaz]

And then when we ban CC permit holders from CCs shooters like Florida will be stopped and shooters won't be able to buy illegal guns either? Licensing and registration will make our kids safe? How would that have solved the Florida shooting since he shouldn't have had the right to buy a gun because he was a known psycho making threats and the government you love fucked up over and over and over?

Have you run all this by your drug dealer? Your theory that if you make things illegal then people can't get them? What did your drug dealer say about that?

Doing the same thing with the same results over and over is insane - which would disallow you to ever be licensed to own or possess a gun.

That's why you and other so obsessed with their guns hide behind the 2nd A., those of us not fearful of what a background check will reveal do not object to this common sense approach at people control.,

There is most likely well over 400 million firearms in the country legally, what percentage of those are used in violent crime? A fraction of a fraction of a fraction tops?

It seems the reader can infer you would never pass a background check, since you ignored that part of the post you quoted and proceeded to posted this off topic response.

What have you done to be so fearful of a background check?

Background checks are worthless if police, sheriffs, fbi, military etc don’t report the information they need correctly

Correct, and the Republican Party is unwilling to buck the NRA in making background checks much more comprehensive.

It the voter wants to reduce the amount of guns in the hands of those who should not have them, vote for the Democratic candidate for the H. or Rep.

You mean like drug laws have prevented people from buying drugs. Make them illegal, now no one can get them!

Ask your drug dealer about that theory. BTW, you know that drug dealers support drug laws, right? Legal drugs would put them out of business

 

[Avatar4321]

View attachment 181670

One of the many students who are adamantly refusing to be silent.

Another leftist student manipulated by their leftist parents into believing they are safer relying on government to protect them when government failed in this case over and over and over and they were safer because government disarmed their teachers and administrators with CC permits.

This is just a fear post of the left. Rely on government, wait to die, do nothing for yourself

Oh, he’s doing plenty for himself. Y’all managed to wake a sleeping giant.

You want to wake a sleeping giant? Wait till you try to confiscate weapons

from crazy people, spouse abusers and felons?

tough.

Your limiting your confiscation to progressives?

No from innocent people.

Adults now are having their civil rights infringed until they are 21 now.

And it won’t stop a single mass shooting

 

[kaz]

The teachers and administrators in there being shot with them were deprived of the right to have a gun to protect them. Florida has the highest CC permit rate in the country. Likely 15 or so people getting shot at were trained and carried a permit and could have had guns, and government prevented them from having them

Government screwed up repeatedly. The FBI didn't pass along information. Local cops didn't react to the information they had. The social worker who could have declared him a psycho didn't. The deputy on site not only didn't enter but told other cops arriving not to enter. The other cops arriving didn't enter.

That is all in the news. What kind of rational person would say thank the Lord for government and want more of that? Those kids have all that information now. And even after that, it doesn't phase the leftists.

So what's your plan exactly to bring reality to the table for them?

First and foremost we need to teach them that regardless the amount of shit anyone throws against the wall ... That doesn't change the authority to govern.

.

I'm not clear how that applies to the discussion, so I doubt high schoolers will get that either

 

[Avatar4321]

And then when we ban CC permit holders from CCs shooters like Florida will be stopped and shooters won't be able to buy illegal guns either? Licensing and registration will make our kids safe? How would that have solved the Florida shooting since he shouldn't have had the right to buy a gun because he was a known psycho making threats and the government you love fucked up over and over and over?

Have you run all this by your drug dealer? Your theory that if you make things illegal then people can't get them? What did your drug dealer say about that?

Doing the same thing with the same results over and over is insane - which would disallow you to ever be licensed to own or possess a gun.

That's why you and other so obsessed with their guns hide behind the 2nd A., those of us not fearful of what a background check will reveal do not object to this common sense approach at people control.,

There is most likely well over 400 million firearms in the country legally, what percentage of those are used in violent crime? A fraction of a fraction of a fraction tops?

It seems the reader can infer you would never pass a background check, since you ignored that part of the post you quoted and proceeded to posted this off topic response.

What have you done to be so fearful of a background check?

Background checks are worthless if police, sheriffs, fbi, military etc don’t report the information they need correctly

Correct, and the Republican Party is unwilling to buck the NRA in making background checks much more comprehensive.

It the voter wants to reduce the amount of guns in the hands of those who should not have them, vote for the Democratic candidate for the H. or Rep.

Go ahead and campaign on your anti second agenda it will energize your opponents

 

[federalist50]

this is the mindset of every lefty activist:View attachment 179998

No Hog it doesnt seem like we're living in the sixties.
We didnt have school shootings in the sixties ya fuken moron.
What a weak ass attempt to try and tie the Little Rascals protest to the sixties.

How long in your life have you been a profane asshole?

 

[BlackSand]

I'm not clear how that applies to the discussion, so I doubt high schoolers will get that either

Whatever arguments anyone makes to support their position ... Pro, con, left, right, middle, alien, green, black, blue, orange ...
Doesn't change whether or not the Constitution grants the federal government the power to govern the issue.

If they want to grant the federal government the power to govern something it doesn't have the authority to ... They need to change the Constitution to allow that.
That can be done.

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[Avatar4321]

Here is a question:

Why should we allow people who define anyone who disagrees with them as insane the power to take weapons away from the insane?

 

[oreo]

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Since the student survivors of the mass murder at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School began their drive to ban the sale of semi-automatic, assault type rifles, the tremendous response from other students nationwide has turned their cause into a strong, grass roots movement.

Conservatives and their leaders are deeply concerned over the possible results this overwhelming number of kids could have. Conservatives, gun nuts, and Republican politicians are appalled by these kids demanding their safety be a priority over the gun nuts’ lunatic desire to own the phallic symbol that is their favorite to stroke and kiss.

Due to this uncontrollable fear conservatives have at the thought of losing their penile substitute, Mitch McConnell decided to ignore the growing number of young voters in this movement. With the coming mid-term elections, these many, many, many students now have the potential to join with tens-of-millions of progressive voters and put the Democrats in control of congress.

In addition to Mitch, conservative community leaders, conservatives on school boards and school administrators have done all they can to stifle the students’ enthusiasm. And now, the National Parks Service is doing so.

A “March For Our Lives” rally was planned by the Stoneman Douglas survivors to take place on the Mall in D.C., but organizers were refused a permit by the National Parks Service management. A representative for the Park Service cited a conflict with a “talent show” as the reason.

The co-executive producer of “Dancing With the Stars” Deena Katz was brought in by the Stoneman Douglas survivors to plan the major event and has a nearly $2 million budget. The money is was raised with a “GoFundMe page, along with donations from Oprah Winfrey, Steven Spielberg and George and Amal Clooney.”

The “talent show” permit application listed equipment for the film crew’s use for the Mall as two tables, two bikes and jump ropes.

The list on the permit application for the March For Our Lives rally included 14 Jumbotrons, 2,000 chairs and 2,000 portable restrooms to be funded with part of the $2 million.

This equipment will be used by the “student speakers, musical performers, guest speakers and video tributes,” and up to an estimated 500,000 attendees, according to the permit application.

The D.C. location for March For Our Lives rally is just one of many big and small events planned in cities across the nation on the same day.

For the conservatives, the gun nuts, and Republican politicians sworn to serve the NRA, be afraid, be very afraid. And keep trying to silence this protest by these young voters. Their anger is not going away, and their numbers are growing. How many millions in 2018? And how many millions more in 2020? Yes, be afraid, be very, very afraid. (And keep pi$$ing them off. It can only help their cause.)

As always, thoughtful comments are welcome. Unfortunately, the conservatives remain either unaware or will deny their individual response to this thread is their typical nonsense consisting of denial, alternate facts, and/or off-topic silliness. (e.g. non-sequiturs, ratings, transference, deflection, memes, etc.). Their mindless prattle is expected by people of reason, who also realize it is a waste of time to offer the conservatives any reply.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/organizers-plan-for-500000-attendees-at-march-for-our-lives-rally-in-washington/2018/02/22/a9ff1992-17f9-11e8-8ac5-84161111ace0_story.html?utm_term=.353cdd5cb3f1

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/march-for-our-lives-gun-control-rally-bumped-from-mall-by-talent-show/2018/03/01/ad8c7268-1cc6-11e8-9496-c89dc446c2d3_story.html?utm_term=.66b0cab356d5





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No these kids can't be silenced but they've got to do more than that. They have got to vote this coming November in the midterm election cycle. If you're 18 years old and not registered, register to vote now! If you're going to be 18 soon, register to vote as soon as you are. If you have friends that are 18 make sure they register and they VOTE. If you're away at college plan ahead to receive a mail-in ballot from your home state.

Someone who doesn't vote or votes for any Republican is voting for more sympathies and prayer vigils. Even though the Florida state legislature did a gun restriction on age, and as soon as you forget about it, and are not looking they'll go right back to the old gun regulations by lowering the age limit. Republicans have done this before. Do not be fooled by this.

The NRA is the Republican parties campaign cash cow and they are going to protect that cow no matter what.

The gun rights organization spent a stupendous $54.4 million in the 2016 election cycle, almost all of it in "independent expenditures," meaning spending for or against a candidate but not a direct contribution to a campaign. The money went almost entirely to Republicans to a degree that almost looks like a misprint (but isn't): Of independent expenditures totaling $52.6 million, Democrats received $265. Yes, that's 265 dollars.If you're looking for a reason that politicians are quick to declare that their "thoughts and prayers" are with the victims of the horrific slaughters that have become virtually routine in American life, but do nothing further to stop them, look no further.

'Thoughts and prayers' — and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns

If you want common sense gun control in this country, you'll have to vote for Democrats this coming November in the 2018 mid term election cycle.

If common sense had anything to do with democrats gun control policies, they would be able to persuade people with out using the fear and grief of people who should be mourning. Democrat policies are purely emotion based. If reason was involved they wouldn’t be pushing policies that actually did something to stop mass shootings rather than ones that wouldn’t have changed anything.

Common sense gun control is placing the gun in your own hands so you can use it to protect yourself rather than remain unarmed targets for evil men. Common sense is using the tools you have to stop evil rather than making it illegal to have those tools.

Republicans have owned the house since 2010. The Aurora theater shooting happened, they did nothing. Virginia Tech happened, they did nothing, Sandy Hook happened, they did nothing, San Bernardino, California happened they did nothing, Orlando, Florida happened they did nothing, Las Vegas, Nevada happened, they did nothing, Sutherland Springs, Texas happened they did nothing, and Parkland, Florida happened and they won't do nothing. A total of 9 mass shootings since Republicans have held the house and they have refused to do anything. They haven't even talked about bump stocks being sold across this country.

Anything the NRA wants, the Republican party makes certain it happens.

What they did do is eliminate mental health background checks Obama initiated after Sandy Hook, as soon as Trump walked through the oval office door.
Trump repeals an Obama regulation keeping guns from people with certain mental health conditions

Obama asked Republicans to put people who were on no fly lists and terrorist watch lists on NO gun lists, and Republicans said NO.
Obama: It's 'insane' that people on the 'no-fly' list can buy guns - CNNPolitics

Then Orlando, Florida happened where a terrorist was on an FBI watch list walked into a gun store was able to load up and he killed 49 innocent people, and Republicans still did NOTHING. They didn't even think maybe Obama was right, these people should be on no gun lists.
Orlando shooting: 49 killed, shooter pledged ISIS allegiance - CNN

Florida just passed a law that requires a 21 age limit on all gun purchases and the NRA has already launched a law suit.

The National Rifle Association on Friday sued Florida over new gun restrictions that were signed into law in response to the Parkland school shooting that killed 17 people. The NRA filed the lawsuit just hours after Gov. Rick Scott signed the legislation, which, in addition to funding for school safety programs, raises the age limit for buying rifles from 18 to 21 and extends a three-day waiting period for handgun purchases to include long guns. It also establishes a program to arm trained teachers and campus employees.The NRA, however, is asking a federal judge to stop the new age requirement, arguing it violates the Constitution.

The NRA Is Suing Florida Over New Gun Control Laws Put In Place After The Parkland Shooting

Who is going to side with the NRA on this law suit against Florida?---REPUBLICANS are.

'Thoughts and prayers' — and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns

If you want common sense gun controls in this country, you'll have to VOTE for Democrats this coming November in the midterm election cycle. If you don't vote or vote for Republicans, you're just casting a vote for more sympathies and prayer vigils.

Why would they do anything? The constitution limits the authority they have to act with reserving that power to the states and the people.

The issue isn't the federal government isn’t doing enough (though had the government followed protocol this last shooting wouldn’t have happened). The issue is the states and the people haven’t done enough.

Rather than exercise your right to self defense, you are giving bureaucrats power to infringe on that right. Instead of being parents and teaching your children how to defend themselves and what to do in these situations, you are trying to take away their right to defend themselves and putting them in the hands of people protesting at the idea of protecting them.

We used to teach students how to fire a gun at schools. Now we teach them to be victims.

No the problem isnt Congress here

It’s you

That's a crock of crap. The Federal Government regulates everything in this country. Criminals and Felons can't buy guns (Federal law) but sick teenagers can walk in and buy an AR-15--when numerous threats were reported to law enforcement?

The Sheriff in Florida was interviewed, and he told everyone to report, report, report. When the reporter asked him, well if you would have had information on Cruz what would you have done? Sheriff--well we would have gone out and "talked" to him. Reporter--"Would you have been able to seize that AR-15"? Well no, he has a legal right to own it.

There are several things the Federal Government can do right now.

1. Ban the sale of semi-automatics in this country. They weren't legal prior to 2004. Or require a maintained liability insurance policy on each sale. Require that one owner can't buy more than 1 semi-automatic. Require that they are locked up and inaccessible to anyone but the owner. Limit clip size.
2. Ban bump stocks.
3. Mental health background checks--that Republicans took off as soon as Trump walked into office.
4. People who are on no fly lists and terrorist watch lists are on no gun lists.
5. Parents with kids and teenagers at home--required to keep all guns and ammo locked up and inaccessible to their kids at all times.
6. Gun shows--required to do back ground checks.
7. No private sales. If you want to sell your gun it goes to a licensed dealer on consignment, so they can do a background check on the new buyer.
8. When people report threatening behavior LOCAL law enforcement is notified and if reasonable cause they can seize all weapons and ammo, and that person is put on a no gun list.


These are common sense gun regulations, that could have been passed by Republicans, and they haven't done jack--over the last 9 years, and after 9 mass killings.

The gun rights organization spent a stupendous $54.4 million in the 2016 election cycle, almost all of it in "independent expenditures," meaning spending for or against a candidate but not a direct contribution to a campaign. The money went almost entirely to Republicans to a degree that almost looks like a misprint (but isn't): Of independent expenditures totaling $52.6 million, Democrats received $265. Yes, that's 265 dollars.

'Thoughts and prayers' — and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns

Yes you can do something--VOTE for Democrats this coming November. They aren't owned by the NRA.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Doing the same thing with the same results over and over is insane - which would disallow you to ever be licensed to own or possess a gun.

That's why you and other so obsessed with their guns hide behind the 2nd A., those of us not fearful of what a background check will reveal do not object to this common sense approach at people control.,

There is most likely well over 400 million firearms in the country legally, what percentage of those are used in violent crime? A fraction of a fraction of a fraction tops?

It seems the reader can infer you would never pass a background check, since you ignored that part of the post you quoted and proceeded to posted this off topic response.

What have you done to be so fearful of a background check?

Background checks are worthless if police, sheriffs, fbi, military etc don’t report the information they need correctly

Correct, and the Republican Party is unwilling to buck the NRA in making background checks much more comprehensive.

It the voter wants to reduce the amount of guns in the hands of those who should not have them, vote for the Democratic candidate for the H. or Rep.

Go ahead and campaign on your anti second agenda it will energize your opponents

I know. Gore lost to Bush on this issue, and look how well that turned out: 911, two wars, a great recession - all based on the BIG LIE that the 2nd A. was under attack.

Well, screw you and the other liars. You may get your party to win, but given the Chaos in today's White House and The Congress, your efforts to perpetuate the BIG LIE will screw you in the long run.

The Republican Party is not your father's party, it has morphed into an ultra right wing authoritarian oligarchy, and you and other single issue voters will be left behind.