Can you be religious and pro science and technology?

[Mudda]

Then stop reading the allegorical books literally and you won't have that problem.

The creation story is either allegorical or it isn't. You can't say that they nailed the BB and then say, but the stuff right after it isn't true. You're the Ultimate Cherrypicker.

Actually, yes, I can do that because it is allegorical. I don't say it isn't true. I say it is allegorical. The account of Genesis nailed that the universe had a beginning.

Like I've said, you don't know if that was the beginning, and have no proof either, as usual.

The Big Bang has plenty of evidence supporting when it happened, what happened after it happened and what has happened since. What we don't know is why it happened.

Many cultures have Creation stories. As the Biblical one goes, it does have allegorical ties to the story of the Big Bang, albeit the timeline is completely off.

If we theorize that whoever originated the Genesis story as having knowledge of the Big Bang, then we must also have to ask the question of how that person/those people came to know it. Was it a lost civilization 30,000 to 50,000 years ago?

A good show for those interested in science, pop culture and humor is Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk. I DVR the show, but there's also a radio show (linked below). Last week's episode discussed the Science of Game of Thrones. Yes, most of it was in good fun, but one thing mentioned was something I'd read about long ago; the origin of legends about dragons. Many cultures have dragons. Not all fly and not all breath fire, but they have them. An obvious reason is when ancient people discovered the fossil of a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Triceratops sticking out of the side of a cliff. They'd have no reason to know it was over 65+ million years old. To them, it'd just be bones buried a few years ago with magnificent tales to tell around the campfires at night.

The linking of dinosaurs and dragons is logical and requires no great knowledge. For an ancient people to know about other planets, other stars, the story of the Big Bang and other high tech ideas requires someone with advanced knowledge to teach them.



StarTalk Radio Show by Neil deGrasse Tyson - Science, pop culture & comedy collide on StarTalk w/ astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, comic co-hosts, celebrities & scientists.

If someone were shown a vision of how everything unfolded from the point of Creation to man and all he had was the knowledge of that day, this is how he would tell that account.

So someone hallucinated and came up with all that nonsense? Like writing Alice in Wonderland?

 

[ding]

Then stop reading the allegorical books literally and you won't have that problem.

The creation story is either allegorical or it isn't. You can't say that they nailed the BB and then say, but the stuff right after it isn't true. You're the Ultimate Cherrypicker.

Actually, yes, I can do that because it is allegorical. I don't say it isn't true. I say it is allegorical. The account of Genesis nailed that the universe had a beginning.

Like I've said, you don't know if that was the beginning, and have no proof either, as usual.

Yes. I do know that and I have provided the proof.

You have nothing, just a guess. There's no way you could know if this universe is in an endless loop, or if there are others. Go sober up.

No. We know that our space time had a beginning because of the 2nd Law of thermodynamics and the general theory of relativity. That's all that matters. Besides, the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

 

[ding]

Then stop reading the allegorical books literally and you won't have that problem.

The creation story is either allegorical or it isn't. You can't say that they nailed the BB and then say, but the stuff right after it isn't true. You're the Ultimate Cherrypicker.

Actually, yes, I can do that because it is allegorical. I don't say it isn't true. I say it is allegorical. The account of Genesis nailed that the universe had a beginning.

Like I've said, you don't know if that was the beginning, and have no proof either, as usual.

The Big Bang has plenty of evidence supporting when it happened, what happened after it happened and what has happened since. What we don't know is why it happened.

Many cultures have Creation stories. As the Biblical one goes, it does have allegorical ties to the story of the Big Bang, albeit the timeline is completely off.

If we theorize that whoever originated the Genesis story as having knowledge of the Big Bang, then we must also have to ask the question of how that person/those people came to know it. Was it a lost civilization 30,000 to 50,000 years ago?

A good show for those interested in science, pop culture and humor is Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk. I DVR the show, but there's also a radio show (linked below). Last week's episode discussed the Science of Game of Thrones. Yes, most of it was in good fun, but one thing mentioned was something I'd read about long ago; the origin of legends about dragons. Many cultures have dragons. Not all fly and not all breath fire, but they have them. An obvious reason is when ancient people discovered the fossil of a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Triceratops sticking out of the side of a cliff. They'd have no reason to know it was over 65+ million years old. To them, it'd just be bones buried a few years ago with magnificent tales to tell around the campfires at night.

The linking of dinosaurs and dragons is logical and requires no great knowledge. For an ancient people to know about other planets, other stars, the story of the Big Bang and other high tech ideas requires someone with advanced knowledge to teach them.



StarTalk Radio Show by Neil deGrasse Tyson - Science, pop culture & comedy collide on StarTalk w/ astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, comic co-hosts, celebrities & scientists.

I said dingbat doesn't know if there was something before the BB. Neither do you. Please pay attention.

It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

 

[ding]

Yes, I do believe there is a higher power than man. So what? We know that our intelligence exists. Is it so hard for you to imagine something greater than us exists? The universe has become self aware. The universe behaves as a self referential system.

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I'm agnostic, I can imagine a higher power than what's in this universe, you simply have no proof, as usual. If you ever get any real proof, I'm open to changing my mind in front of such real proof. can't be any fairer than that.

But you're not agnostic.

You're just jealous.

The Bible also nailed that everything we see today including ourselves was created in steps. That's the 6 day thingee that confuses you so much.

I particularly enjoy the step where god makes a woman out of a man's rib. Thee only thing the bible nailed is some hobo to wood.

I wasn't including that in the steps. You know how we like to keep you women down.

 

[ding]

The creation story is either allegorical or it isn't. You can't say that they nailed the BB and then say, but the stuff right after it isn't true. You're the Ultimate Cherrypicker.

Actually, yes, I can do that because it is allegorical. I don't say it isn't true. I say it is allegorical. The account of Genesis nailed that the universe had a beginning.

Like I've said, you don't know if that was the beginning, and have no proof either, as usual.

The Big Bang has plenty of evidence supporting when it happened, what happened after it happened and what has happened since. What we don't know is why it happened.

Many cultures have Creation stories. As the Biblical one goes, it does have allegorical ties to the story of the Big Bang, albeit the timeline is completely off.

If we theorize that whoever originated the Genesis story as having knowledge of the Big Bang, then we must also have to ask the question of how that person/those people came to know it. Was it a lost civilization 30,000 to 50,000 years ago?

A good show for those interested in science, pop culture and humor is Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk. I DVR the show, but there's also a radio show (linked below). Last week's episode discussed the Science of Game of Thrones. Yes, most of it was in good fun, but one thing mentioned was something I'd read about long ago; the origin of legends about dragons. Many cultures have dragons. Not all fly and not all breath fire, but they have them. An obvious reason is when ancient people discovered the fossil of a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Triceratops sticking out of the side of a cliff. They'd have no reason to know it was over 65+ million years old. To them, it'd just be bones buried a few years ago with magnificent tales to tell around the campfires at night.

The linking of dinosaurs and dragons is logical and requires no great knowledge. For an ancient people to know about other planets, other stars, the story of the Big Bang and other high tech ideas requires someone with advanced knowledge to teach them.



StarTalk Radio Show by Neil deGrasse Tyson - Science, pop culture & comedy collide on StarTalk w/ astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, comic co-hosts, celebrities & scientists.

If someone were shown a vision of how everything unfolded from the point of Creation to man and all he had was the knowledge of that day, this is how he would tell that account.

So someone hallucinated and came up with all that nonsense? Like writing Alice in Wonderland?

Do you think God said, pick up some paper and a quill, I've got a few things for you to write down?

 

[Divine Wind]

I said dingbat doesn't know if there was something before the BB. Neither do you. Please pay attention.

Nobody knows and science can't tell you. You do understand this point, don't you? I made it earlier. Are you sure you're keeping up with the conversation?

 

[Divine Wind]

Do you think God said, pick up some paper and a quill, I've got a few things for you to write down?

Personally, I doubt God talked to anyone. Like Thomas Jefferson, I'm a Deist, a believer of God as a "watchmaker", there but not interfering for reasons known only to God.

 

[ding]

Do you think God said, pick up some paper and a quill, I've got a few things for you to write down?

Personally, I doubt God talked to anyone. Like Thomas Jefferson, I'm a Deist, a believer of God as a "watchmaker", there but not interfering for reasons known only to God.

I see. Do you believe that we can learn about His invisible qualities by what He has created?

 

[Divine Wind]

Do you think God said, pick up some paper and a quill, I've got a few things for you to write down?

Personally, I doubt God talked to anyone. Like Thomas Jefferson, I'm a Deist, a believer of God as a "watchmaker", there but not interfering for reasons known only to God.

I see. Do you believe that we can learn about His invisible qualities by what He has created?

I believe we're here for a reason. Discovering that reason is part of the mystery.

Why would an all powerful, all knowing eternal being create us in the first place? Entertainment? To create "souls"? It's been a constant question over the ages asked by a lot smarter people than me. Saint Thomas Aquinas jumps to mind.

Obviously an all powerful, all knowing eternal being could program the entire Bible into our genes or write the words in the stars.... but God chose not to do this. Why?

We have existence, brains and a defined universe. IMHO, there's an expectation that we use the first two to explore the third.

 

[ding]

Do you think God said, pick up some paper and a quill, I've got a few things for you to write down?

Personally, I doubt God talked to anyone. Like Thomas Jefferson, I'm a Deist, a believer of God as a "watchmaker", there but not interfering for reasons known only to God.

I see. Do you believe that we can learn about His invisible qualities by what He has created?

I believe we're here for a reason. Discovering that reason is part of the mystery.

How will you determine that if not through studying what He has created?

Why would an all powerful, all knowing eternal being create us in the first place? Entertainment? To create "souls"? It's been a constant question over the ages asked by a lot smarter people than me. Saint Thomas Aquinas jumps to mind.

How will you determine that if not through studying what He has created?

Obviously an all powerful, all knowing eternal being could program the entire Bible into our genes or write the words in the stars.... but God chose not to do this. Why?

I hear many people make similar claims. I don't believe that God can do anything. For instance, I don't believe God can oppose His nature. Isn't it the nature of intelligence to create intelligence? Is it possible that He had no choice in the matter? But if He did have a choice, it is not virtuous if we are made to behave virtuously, hence the need for free will. Maybe we have to choose between the knowledge of good and the knowledge of evil. Gold must be purified in a crucible of fire to gain its worth.

We have existence, brains and a defined universe. IMHO, there's an expectation that we use the first two to explore the third.

I believe we are meant to use all three to know Him and His ways. For instance, we live in a universe where there has never been and uncaused event which means that everything is connected in someway to something else and there is a reason for why things happen as they do. Since the matter and energy that make us up was present at the moment that space and time came into existence the universe has literally become self aware of itself. During that evolution to self awareness matter has evolved from sub-atomic particles, to hydrogen and helium, to the cosmic structures, to all the elements and compounds that we see, to life and finally to consciousness. It seems to me that the answer to this question lies in the evolution of consciousness or more specifically to that next leap in the evolution of matter. What is that leap? From creatures that know and create to sons and daughters.

 

[BreezeWood]

The creation story is either allegorical or it isn't. You can't say that they nailed the BB and then say, but the stuff right after it isn't true. You're the Ultimate Cherrypicker.

Actually, yes, I can do that because it is allegorical. I don't say it isn't true. I say it is allegorical. The account of Genesis nailed that the universe had a beginning.

Like I've said, you don't know if that was the beginning, and have no proof either, as usual.

The Big Bang has plenty of evidence supporting when it happened, what happened after it happened and what has happened since. What we don't know is why it happened.

Many cultures have Creation stories. As the Biblical one goes, it does have allegorical ties to the story of the Big Bang, albeit the timeline is completely off.

If we theorize that whoever originated the Genesis story as having knowledge of the Big Bang, then we must also have to ask the question of how that person/those people came to know it. Was it a lost civilization 30,000 to 50,000 years ago?

A good show for those interested in science, pop culture and humor is Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk. I DVR the show, but there's also a radio show (linked below). Last week's episode discussed the Science of Game of Thrones. Yes, most of it was in good fun, but one thing mentioned was something I'd read about long ago; the origin of legends about dragons. Many cultures have dragons. Not all fly and not all breath fire, but they have them. An obvious reason is when ancient people discovered the fossil of a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Triceratops sticking out of the side of a cliff. They'd have no reason to know it was over 65+ million years old. To them, it'd just be bones buried a few years ago with magnificent tales to tell around the campfires at night.

The linking of dinosaurs and dragons is logical and requires no great knowledge. For an ancient people to know about other planets, other stars, the story of the Big Bang and other high tech ideas requires someone with advanced knowledge to teach them.



StarTalk Radio Show by Neil deGrasse Tyson - Science, pop culture & comedy collide on StarTalk w/ astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, comic co-hosts, celebrities & scientists.

I said dingbat doesn't know if there was something before the BB. Neither do you. Please pay attention.

It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

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It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

BB is cyclical, all matter is expelled from Singularity at a finite angle with a trajectory that returns the matter in unison to their point of origin causing a new compaction that when completed results in a new Singularity.

 

[ding]

Actually, yes, I can do that because it is allegorical. I don't say it isn't true. I say it is allegorical. The account of Genesis nailed that the universe had a beginning.

Like I've said, you don't know if that was the beginning, and have no proof either, as usual.

The Big Bang has plenty of evidence supporting when it happened, what happened after it happened and what has happened since. What we don't know is why it happened.

Many cultures have Creation stories. As the Biblical one goes, it does have allegorical ties to the story of the Big Bang, albeit the timeline is completely off.

If we theorize that whoever originated the Genesis story as having knowledge of the Big Bang, then we must also have to ask the question of how that person/those people came to know it. Was it a lost civilization 30,000 to 50,000 years ago?

A good show for those interested in science, pop culture and humor is Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk. I DVR the show, but there's also a radio show (linked below). Last week's episode discussed the Science of Game of Thrones. Yes, most of it was in good fun, but one thing mentioned was something I'd read about long ago; the origin of legends about dragons. Many cultures have dragons. Not all fly and not all breath fire, but they have them. An obvious reason is when ancient people discovered the fossil of a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Triceratops sticking out of the side of a cliff. They'd have no reason to know it was over 65+ million years old. To them, it'd just be bones buried a few years ago with magnificent tales to tell around the campfires at night.

The linking of dinosaurs and dragons is logical and requires no great knowledge. For an ancient people to know about other planets, other stars, the story of the Big Bang and other high tech ideas requires someone with advanced knowledge to teach them.



StarTalk Radio Show by Neil deGrasse Tyson - Science, pop culture & comedy collide on StarTalk w/ astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, comic co-hosts, celebrities & scientists.

I said dingbat doesn't know if there was something before the BB. Neither do you. Please pay attention.

It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

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It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

BB is cyclical, all matter is expelled from Singularity at a finite angle with a trajectory that returns the matter in unison to their point of origin causing a new compaction that when completed results in a new Singularity.

No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

 

[BreezeWood]

Like I've said, you don't know if that was the beginning, and have no proof either, as usual.

The Big Bang has plenty of evidence supporting when it happened, what happened after it happened and what has happened since. What we don't know is why it happened.

Many cultures have Creation stories. As the Biblical one goes, it does have allegorical ties to the story of the Big Bang, albeit the timeline is completely off.

If we theorize that whoever originated the Genesis story as having knowledge of the Big Bang, then we must also have to ask the question of how that person/those people came to know it. Was it a lost civilization 30,000 to 50,000 years ago?

A good show for those interested in science, pop culture and humor is Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk. I DVR the show, but there's also a radio show (linked below). Last week's episode discussed the Science of Game of Thrones. Yes, most of it was in good fun, but one thing mentioned was something I'd read about long ago; the origin of legends about dragons. Many cultures have dragons. Not all fly and not all breath fire, but they have them. An obvious reason is when ancient people discovered the fossil of a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Triceratops sticking out of the side of a cliff. They'd have no reason to know it was over 65+ million years old. To them, it'd just be bones buried a few years ago with magnificent tales to tell around the campfires at night.

The linking of dinosaurs and dragons is logical and requires no great knowledge. For an ancient people to know about other planets, other stars, the story of the Big Bang and other high tech ideas requires someone with advanced knowledge to teach them.



StarTalk Radio Show by Neil deGrasse Tyson - Science, pop culture & comedy collide on StarTalk w/ astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, comic co-hosts, celebrities & scientists.

I said dingbat doesn't know if there was something before the BB. Neither do you. Please pay attention.

It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

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It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

BB is cyclical, all matter is expelled from Singularity at a finite angle with a trajectory that returns the matter in unison to their point of origin causing a new compaction that when completed results in a new Singularity.

No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

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No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

yes it does, the cycle occurs in a vacuum.

 

[ding]

The Big Bang has plenty of evidence supporting when it happened, what happened after it happened and what has happened since. What we don't know is why it happened.

Many cultures have Creation stories. As the Biblical one goes, it does have allegorical ties to the story of the Big Bang, albeit the timeline is completely off.

If we theorize that whoever originated the Genesis story as having knowledge of the Big Bang, then we must also have to ask the question of how that person/those people came to know it. Was it a lost civilization 30,000 to 50,000 years ago?

A good show for those interested in science, pop culture and humor is Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk. I DVR the show, but there's also a radio show (linked below). Last week's episode discussed the Science of Game of Thrones. Yes, most of it was in good fun, but one thing mentioned was something I'd read about long ago; the origin of legends about dragons. Many cultures have dragons. Not all fly and not all breath fire, but they have them. An obvious reason is when ancient people discovered the fossil of a Tyrannosaurus Rex or Triceratops sticking out of the side of a cliff. They'd have no reason to know it was over 65+ million years old. To them, it'd just be bones buried a few years ago with magnificent tales to tell around the campfires at night.

The linking of dinosaurs and dragons is logical and requires no great knowledge. For an ancient people to know about other planets, other stars, the story of the Big Bang and other high tech ideas requires someone with advanced knowledge to teach them.



StarTalk Radio Show by Neil deGrasse Tyson - Science, pop culture & comedy collide on StarTalk w/ astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, comic co-hosts, celebrities & scientists.

I said dingbat doesn't know if there was something before the BB. Neither do you. Please pay attention.

It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

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It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

BB is cyclical, all matter is expelled from Singularity at a finite angle with a trajectory that returns the matter in unison to their point of origin causing a new compaction that when completed results in a new Singularity.

No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

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No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

yes it does, the cycle occurs in a vacuum.

For every energy to matter and matter to energy transfers there will be a reduction in the usable energy. As time approaches infinity usable energy approaches zero. It is not possible to have an infinite universe that still has usable energy remaining. Unless of course you want to violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

 

[Divine Wind]

How will you determine that if not through studying what He has created?

1) Which is why studying the Universe through methodical and logical processes is to study the Divine.

2) Who says God has sex? In other words, a "he"?

...I hear many people make similar claims. I don't believe that God can do anything. For instance, I don't believe God can oppose His nature.....

1) You are limiting God by anthropomorphizing a power that is greater than all the Universe.

2) You are limiting God by imposing rules of our Universe upon a power that not only created it, but lives outside those rules. It's like you want the creator the game "Monopoly" to live their lives strictly in accordance with the rules of the game they created.

 

[Divine Wind]

BB is cyclical, all matter is expelled from Singularity at a finite angle with a trajectory that returns the matter in unison to their point of origin causing a new compaction that when completed results in a new Singularity.

Wrong. Your theory has been disproved. It was favored, as a matter of faith, by Atheists for obvious reasons. LOL

WMAP- Fate of the Universe
Recent observations of distant supernova have suggested that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating or speeding up, like the graph's red curve, which implies the existence of a form of matter with a strong negative pressure, such as the cosmological constant. This strange form of matter is also sometimes referred to as the “dark energy”. Unlike gravity which works to slow the expansion down, dark energy works to speed the expansion up. If dark energy in fact plays a significant role in the evolution of the universe, then in all likelihood the universe will continue to expand forever.

There is a growing consensus among cosmologists that the total density of matter is equal to the critical density, so that the universe is spatially flat. Approximately 24% of this is in the form of a low pressure matter, most of which is thought to be “non-baryonic” dark matter, while the remaining 71% is thought to be in the form of a negative pressure “dark energy”, like the cosmological constant. If this is true, then dark energy is the major driving force behind the fate of the universe and it will expand forever exponentially.

 

[BreezeWood]

BB is cyclical, all matter is expelled from Singularity at a finite angle with a trajectory that returns the matter in unison to their point of origin causing a new compaction that when completed results in a new Singularity.

Wrong. Your theory has been disproved. It was favored, as a matter of faith, by Atheists for obvious reasons. LOL

WMAP- Fate of the Universe
Recent observations of distant supernova have suggested that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating or speeding up, like the graph's red curve, which implies the existence of a form of matter with a strong negative pressure, such as the cosmological constant. This strange form of matter is also sometimes referred to as the “dark energy”. Unlike gravity which works to slow the expansion down, dark energy works to speed the expansion up. If dark energy in fact plays a significant role in the evolution of the universe, then in all likelihood the universe will continue to expand forever.

There is a growing consensus among cosmologists that the total density of matter is equal to the critical density, so that the universe is spatially flat. Approximately 24% of this is in the form of a low pressure matter, most of which is thought to be “non-baryonic” dark matter, while the remaining 71% is thought to be in the form of a negative pressure “dark energy”, like the cosmological constant. If this is true, then dark energy is the major driving force behind the fate of the universe and it will expand forever exponentially.

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Wrong. Your theory has been disproved. It was favored, as a matter of faith, by Atheists for obvious reasons. LOL

that is not what was stated, matter does not reverse course it continues expanding at a finite angle (trajectory) that eventually returns all matter in unison to their point of origin where it begins recompaction to create a new monument of Singularity. Boomerang Theory.

 

[BreezeWood]

I said dingbat doesn't know if there was something before the BB. Neither do you. Please pay attention.

It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

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It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

BB is cyclical, all matter is expelled from Singularity at a finite angle with a trajectory that returns the matter in unison to their point of origin causing a new compaction that when completed results in a new Singularity.

No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

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No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

yes it does, the cycle occurs in a vacuum.

For every energy to matter and matter to energy transfers there will be a reduction in the usable energy. As time approaches infinity usable energy approaches zero. It is not possible to have an infinite universe that still has usable energy remaining. Unless of course you want to violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

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For every energy to matter and matter to energy transfers there will be a reduction in the usable energy. As time approaches infinity usable energy approaches zero. It is not possible to have an infinite universe that still has usable energy remaining. Unless of course you want to violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

that is not true for matter traveling in a vacuum - because of its angular trajectory the matter will return back to its origin (in unison) to begin a recompaction prior to a new moment of Singularity.

 

[ding]

It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

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It doesn't matter because the endless loop universe requires something to initiate each initial expansion. So you still get back to something creating that hot dense state.

BB is cyclical, all matter is expelled from Singularity at a finite angle with a trajectory that returns the matter in unison to their point of origin causing a new compaction that when completed results in a new Singularity.

No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

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No. It doesn't. You have just violated the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

yes it does, the cycle occurs in a vacuum.

For every energy to matter and matter to energy transfers there will be a reduction in the usable energy. As time approaches infinity usable energy approaches zero. It is not possible to have an infinite universe that still has usable energy remaining. Unless of course you want to violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

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For every energy to matter and matter to energy transfers there will be a reduction in the usable energy. As time approaches infinity usable energy approaches zero. It is not possible to have an infinite universe that still has usable energy remaining. Unless of course you want to violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

that is not true for matter traveling in a vacuum - because of its angular trajectory the matter will return back to its origin (in unison) to begin a recompaction prior to a new moment of Singularity.

Does the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics apply right now? Because usable energy is decreasing right now. It is not possible to have an infinite universe.

"Entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics

In trying to synthesize the ideas of Kelvin, Joule, and Carnot - that is, that energy is conserved in thermodynamic processes and that heat always "flows downhill" in temperature - Rudolf Clausius invented the idea of entropy in such a way that the change in entropy is the ratio of the heat exchanged in any process and the absolute temperature at which that heat is exchanged. That is, he defined the change in entropy DS of an object which either absorbs or gives off heat Q at some temperature T as simply the ratio Q/T.

With this new concept, he was able to put the idea that heat will always flow from the higher to the lower temperature into a mathematical framework. If a quantity of heat Q flows naturally from a higher temperature object to a lower temperature object - something that we always observe, the entropy gained by the cooler object during the transfer is greater than the entropy lost by the warmer one since Q/Tc.>|Q|/Th. So he could state that the principle that drives all natural thermodynamic processes is that the effect of any heat transfer is a net increase in the combined entropy of the two objects. And that new principle establishes the direction that natural processes proceed. All natural processes occur in such a way that the total entropy of the universe increases. The only heat transfer that could occur and leave the entropy of the universe unchanged is one that occurs between two objects which are at the same temperature - but that is not possible, since no heat would transfer. So a reversible isothermal heat transfer that would leave the entropy of the universe constant is just an idealization - and hence could not occur. All other processes - meaning, all real processes - have the effect of increasing the entropy of the universe. That is the second law of thermodynamics."

SECOND LAW

 

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How will you determine that if not through studying what He has created?

1) Which is why studying the Universe through methodical and logical processes is to study the Divine.

2) Who says God has sex? In other words, a "he"?

...I hear many people make similar claims. I don't believe that God can do anything. For instance, I don't believe God can oppose His nature.....

1) You are limiting God by anthropomorphizing a power that is greater than all the Universe.

2) You are limiting God by imposing rules of our Universe upon a power that not only created it, but lives outside those rules. It's like you want the creator the game "Monopoly" to live their lives strictly in accordance with the rules of the game they created.

God contains both masculine and feminine nature. How else could men and women be created in His image. I only use His or He as a matter of convenience. I take God at His word when He said, I am. God is existence itself.

I don't see how I limit God at all by saying that God cannot oppose Himself.