Canada's middle class Is better than ours. This is despite...

[LeftofLeft]

I posted links that show the Canadian middle class has both a higher after tax income and a longer lifespan than the American middle class. And then the attempts to divert the thread to other subjects began. So address why this is so, why the Canadian middle class is doing better if our system is that good.

I would genuinely like to see those links. If Canada has a stronger Middle Class, then there should be greater demand to get into Canada vs. U.S.

 

[Wilbur Right]

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

Any specifics? I heard their reserve requirements are much lower than ours.

I heard that their (Canada's) bank executives are more risk averse and just better bankers than our own. Proof would be in the results of the past several years.

 

[The Rabbi]

Wrong.
People are fleeing violence and death to get to Europe. People are fleeing socialist shitholes like New Zealand to get to the US. Immigrants here are among the fastest growing members of the middle class.

Exactly, they're fleeing third world shitholes. Fortunately some in Europe are taking them in. Unlike the US.

With regard to NZ, you really ought to do some research before spouting off.
Still flocking to NZ

Links with regards to immigrants becoming the fastest growing members of the middle class.

Thanks for agreeing with me!
Yes Muslims are fleeing war torn places looking for refuge, which they find in Europe
Immigrants to America are seeking prosperity, and finding it.
Do your own damn research.

 

[Carla_Danger]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

Is that why they come to the US for critical medical needs?

Link to your claim they are better. And why Canada isn't seriously pitching in in the war on terrorism.

Smh...

Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians’ Use Of Health Care Services In The United States

 

[Weatherman2020]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

Is that why they come to the US for critical medical needs?

Link to your claim they are better. And why Canada isn't seriously pitching in in the war on terrorism.

Smh...

Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians’ Use Of Health Care Services In The United States

Canadian Politician Comes to U.S. for Heart Surgery

 

[Carla_Danger]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

Is that why they come to the US for critical medical needs?

Link to your claim they are better. And why Canada isn't seriously pitching in in the war on terrorism.

Smh...

Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians’ Use Of Health Care Services In The United States

Canadian Politician Comes to U.S. for Heart Surgery

Oh boy.

The first myth Carroll takes on is the oft-heard one about Canadians supposedly “flocking” to the U.S. to get medical care. An eye-popping pie chart, generated by peer-reviewed journal “Health Affairs,” shows only a tiny sliver of Canadians heading south for care — less than 1%.

Myths about Canada, U.S. health care debunked

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

OK so you have no answer. Pure, straight ignorance.
Do they have higher average incomes? Higher average household wealth? Longer life spans? Higher rates of consumption? Higher personal satisfaction?
Nothing. You've got nothing. You haven't quantified what you wrote, much less backed it up by any evidence.
You fail because you are Billy Triple Zero.

How America's middle class fell behind its Canadian neighbours

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north. They can now claim the title of the richest middle class on the planet.

Let’s take a look at the bombshell that the New York Times dropped in our midstlast week. It’s based on data from the Luxembourg Income Study Database, and focuses squarely on median income.

That means that instead of being distorted by the impact of millionaires and billionaires becoming still richer and the wealth gap becoming still wider, using this data gives analysts a sense of the experience of the average household in any given country. It also means an economist can compare overall economic growth of a country to the experience of individual households in that country – and by those standards, the United States just doesn’t come off that well.

Because while our economy has been growing more rapidly than those of other nations, a smaller percentage of those households is sharing in that prosperity, the data suggests. (Income inequality is at its highest level since 1928.)

Income, take home pay, better for the middle class Canandian than for the middle class American. looks like Billy was right on this.

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north.


Median per capita income in the U.S. has barely budged since 2000, while Canadians have seen their median income jump 20 percent.

Holy crap! There may be a less useful stat than "median per capita income", but I'll be damned if I can think of it.

Median means you line up all the numbers from lowest to highest and the number in the middle is the median.
How you turn that into a per capita number is some kind of liberal head-up-assery for sure.
Did they take the median household income and divide it by the average household size?

Wow, moronic for sure.
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The median would be the middle class duh. The average would be higher because of the HUGE income of the few megarich at the top after 35 years of Voodoo, dupe...

The median would be the middle class duh.

Bullshit. You think the middle class is $18,700 per person? Dupe.

OK so you have no answer. Pure, straight ignorance.
Do they have higher average incomes? Higher average household wealth? Longer life spans? Higher rates of consumption? Higher personal satisfaction?
Nothing. You've got nothing. You haven't quantified what you wrote, much less backed it up by any evidence.
You fail because you are Billy Triple Zero.

How America's middle class fell behind its Canadian neighbours

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north. They can now claim the title of the richest middle class on the planet.

Let’s take a look at the bombshell that the New York Times dropped in our midstlast week. It’s based on data from the Luxembourg Income Study Database, and focuses squarely on median income.

That means that instead of being distorted by the impact of millionaires and billionaires becoming still richer and the wealth gap becoming still wider, using this data gives analysts a sense of the experience of the average household in any given country. It also means an economist can compare overall economic growth of a country to the experience of individual households in that country – and by those standards, the United States just doesn’t come off that well.

Because while our economy has been growing more rapidly than those of other nations, a smaller percentage of those households is sharing in that prosperity, the data suggests. (Income inequality is at its highest level since 1928.)

Income, take home pay, better for the middle class Canandian than for the middle class American. looks like Billy was right on this.

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north.


Median per capita income in the U.S. has barely budged since 2000, while Canadians have seen their median income jump 20 percent.

Holy crap! There may be a less useful stat than "median per capita income", but I'll be damned if I can think of it.

Median means you line up all the numbers from lowest to highest and the number in the middle is the median.
How you turn that into a per capita number is some kind of liberal head-up-assery for sure.
Did they take the median household income and divide it by the average household size?

Wow, moronic for sure.
.

The median would be the middle class duh. The average would be higher because of the HUGE income of the few megarich at the top after 35 years of Voodoo, dupe...

The median would be the middle class duh.

Bullshit. You think the middle class is $18,700 per person? Dupe.

If that's the median, just proves what a bust Reaganism is, except for the richest.

If that's the median

Median per capita. Derp!

just proves what a bust Reaganism is,

8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Obama still couldn't fix it? That's funny.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

Canada still has a central bank that creates credit out of thin air and taxes the masses. Canada doesn't have a military industrial complex monster to feed either....so your comparison is like apples to oranges.

Yeah they've avoided a ridiculous and overbloated defense budget haven't they?

Easy to do when your neighbor to the South has your back.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

Any specifics? I heard their reserve requirements are much lower than ours.

I heard that their (Canada's) bank executives are more risk averse and just better bankers than our own. Proof would be in the results of the past several years.

I heard that their (Canada's) bank executives are more risk averse

Not having government push mortgages for bad risks helped them also, compared to the US.

 

[francoHFW]

I posted links that show the Canadian middle class has both a higher after tax income and a longer lifespan than the American middle class. And then the attempts to divert the thread to other subjects began. So address why this is so, why the Canadian middle class is doing better if our system is that good.

Then pack your bags and go, too.

Feq you, mindless hater dupe. What do you have against helping our wreck of a middle class (thanks, GOP)? Try thinking.

 

[francoHFW]

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

Any specifics? I heard their reserve requirements are much lower than ours.

I heard that their (Canada's) bank executives are more risk averse and just better bankers than our own. Proof would be in the results of the past several years.

I heard that their (Canada's) bank executives are more risk averse

Not having government push mortgages for bad risks helped them also, compared to the US.

Thanks, corrupt GOP and silly dupes. Canada didn't have Boooshie cronies as regulators.

 

[francoHFW]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

Is that why they come to the US for critical medical needs?

Link to your claim they are better. And why Canada isn't seriously pitching in in the war on terrorism.

Smh...

Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians’ Use Of Health Care Services In The United States

Canadian Politician Comes to U.S. for Heart Surgery

Your sympathy for Canada's 1% is touching, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

How America's middle class fell behind its Canadian neighbours

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north. They can now claim the title of the richest middle class on the planet.

Let’s take a look at the bombshell that the New York Times dropped in our midstlast week. It’s based on data from the Luxembourg Income Study Database, and focuses squarely on median income.

That means that instead of being distorted by the impact of millionaires and billionaires becoming still richer and the wealth gap becoming still wider, using this data gives analysts a sense of the experience of the average household in any given country. It also means an economist can compare overall economic growth of a country to the experience of individual households in that country – and by those standards, the United States just doesn’t come off that well.

Because while our economy has been growing more rapidly than those of other nations, a smaller percentage of those households is sharing in that prosperity, the data suggests. (Income inequality is at its highest level since 1928.)

Income, take home pay, better for the middle class Canandian than for the middle class American. looks like Billy was right on this.

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north.


Median per capita income in the U.S. has barely budged since 2000, while Canadians have seen their median income jump 20 percent.

Holy crap! There may be a less useful stat than "median per capita income", but I'll be damned if I can think of it.

Median means you line up all the numbers from lowest to highest and the number in the middle is the median.
How you turn that into a per capita number is some kind of liberal head-up-assery for sure.
Did they take the median household income and divide it by the average household size?

Wow, moronic for sure.
.

The median would be the middle class duh. The average would be higher because of the HUGE income of the few megarich at the top after 35 years of Voodoo, dupe...

The median would be the middle class duh.

Bullshit. You think the middle class is $18,700 per person? Dupe.

How America's middle class fell behind its Canadian neighbours

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north. They can now claim the title of the richest middle class on the planet.

Let’s take a look at the bombshell that the New York Times dropped in our midstlast week. It’s based on data from the Luxembourg Income Study Database, and focuses squarely on median income.

That means that instead of being distorted by the impact of millionaires and billionaires becoming still richer and the wealth gap becoming still wider, using this data gives analysts a sense of the experience of the average household in any given country. It also means an economist can compare overall economic growth of a country to the experience of individual households in that country – and by those standards, the United States just doesn’t come off that well.

Because while our economy has been growing more rapidly than those of other nations, a smaller percentage of those households is sharing in that prosperity, the data suggests. (Income inequality is at its highest level since 1928.)

Income, take home pay, better for the middle class Canandian than for the middle class American. looks like Billy was right on this.

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north.


Median per capita income in the U.S. has barely budged since 2000, while Canadians have seen their median income jump 20 percent.

Holy crap! There may be a less useful stat than "median per capita income", but I'll be damned if I can think of it.

Median means you line up all the numbers from lowest to highest and the number in the middle is the median.
How you turn that into a per capita number is some kind of liberal head-up-assery for sure.
Did they take the median household income and divide it by the average household size?

Wow, moronic for sure.
.

The median would be the middle class duh. The average would be higher because of the HUGE income of the few megarich at the top after 35 years of Voodoo, dupe...

The median would be the middle class duh.

Bullshit. You think the middle class is $18,700 per person? Dupe.

If that's the median, just proves what a bust Reaganism is, except for the richest.

If that's the median

Median per capita. Derp!

just proves what a bust Reaganism is,

8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Obama still couldn't fix it? That's funny.

We still have ruinous Reaganist tax rates, dupe. Congrats, dupe.

 

[percysunshine]

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So, when Mexico decides to invade Canada because it is so pleasant there, should we give them visa wavers and traffic control?

 

[francoHFW]

I asked the question: What is their take home pay? By your own words, Higher income and a higher tax rate on the wealthy? What portion of the Middle Class is considered 'wealthy'? Before you shit yourself and start calling me names, take some time and think about the concept of take-home pay as a percentage of income.

Their income is higher after taxes. If you want to hammer out all the nuance to that be my guest.

Their income is higher after taxes.

If only you could prove it.

The Left only believes burden of proof and empirical validation applies to the other side. Oh, when they do site validation, it's usually fabricated as we saw with Dan Rather saying Bush was AWOL from the National Guard while holding up 1972 Microsoft Word generated documents or when the University of East Anglia did not like the empirical data for a climate change study do they emailed one another to change the data to fit the narrative.... And got caught.

Of course he WAS AWOL (setup?), and two profs at some stupid little college mean nothing, dupe. GW is a fact also.

If it were fact, then Dan Rather would have had no reason to forge and fraud the American People with 1972 Microsoft Word documents. The only dupes in this picture are Dan Rather and yourself. Rather acted just like the man he despised, Richard Nixon, in that he used any means possible to take down his enemy; legal or not.

Dan, yes. You, yes. GOP propaganda machine wins, USA loses.

 

[francoHFW]

In fact, after 30 years of Voodoo, many countries have healthier middle classes than us, and many fewer poor people. Great job, New BS GOP greedy idiot billionaires and silly dupes...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

Any specifics? I heard their reserve requirements are much lower than ours.

I heard that their (Canada's) bank executives are more risk averse and just better bankers than our own. Proof would be in the results of the past several years.

I heard that their (Canada's) bank executives are more risk averse

Not having government push mortgages for bad risks helped them also, compared to the US.

Thanks, corrupt GOP and silly dupes. Canada didn't have Boooshie cronies as regulators.

Regulators pushing bad mortgages, great idea!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north.


Median per capita income in the U.S. has barely budged since 2000, while Canadians have seen their median income jump 20 percent.

Holy crap! There may be a less useful stat than "median per capita income", but I'll be damned if I can think of it.

Median means you line up all the numbers from lowest to highest and the number in the middle is the median.
How you turn that into a per capita number is some kind of liberal head-up-assery for sure.
Did they take the median household income and divide it by the average household size?

Wow, moronic for sure.
.

The median would be the middle class duh. The average would be higher because of the HUGE income of the few megarich at the top after 35 years of Voodoo, dupe...

The median would be the middle class duh.

Bullshit. You think the middle class is $18,700 per person? Dupe.

If you’re a proud member of America’s middle class, you may have been startled to learn last week that your after-tax income now makes you worse off than your Canadian neighbors to the north.


Median per capita income in the U.S. has barely budged since 2000, while Canadians have seen their median income jump 20 percent.

Holy crap! There may be a less useful stat than "median per capita income", but I'll be damned if I can think of it.

Median means you line up all the numbers from lowest to highest and the number in the middle is the median.
How you turn that into a per capita number is some kind of liberal head-up-assery for sure.
Did they take the median household income and divide it by the average household size?

Wow, moronic for sure.
.

The median would be the middle class duh. The average would be higher because of the HUGE income of the few megarich at the top after 35 years of Voodoo, dupe...

The median would be the middle class duh.

Bullshit. You think the middle class is $18,700 per person? Dupe.

If that's the median, just proves what a bust Reaganism is, except for the richest.

If that's the median

Median per capita. Derp!

just proves what a bust Reaganism is,

8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Obama still couldn't fix it? That's funny.

We still have ruinous Reaganist tax rates, dupe. Congrats, dupe.

We still have ruinous Reaganist tax rates, dupe.

Reagan's tax rate was 28%. Obama's is over 40%. Learn some math ya fucking moron.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I posted links that show the Canadian middle class has both a higher after tax income and a longer lifespan than the American middle class. And then the attempts to divert the thread to other subjects began. So address why this is so, why the Canadian middle class is doing better if our system is that good.

Then pack your bags and go, too.

Feq you, mindless hater dupe. What do you have against helping our wreck of a middle class (thanks, GOP)? Try thinking.

Hey Whiner if you don't like it here get the fuck out.

In this country anyone can improve their position anytime they want. As a whole we used to all want to do that now not so much.

IMO it's because you sheep have come to believe that a want is not merely a need but rather a right

 

[francoHFW]

The median would be the middle class duh. The average would be higher because of the HUGE income of the few megarich at the top after 35 years of Voodoo, dupe...

The median would be the middle class duh.

Bullshit. You think the middle class is $18,700 per person? Dupe.

The median would be the middle class duh. The average would be higher because of the HUGE income of the few megarich at the top after 35 years of Voodoo, dupe...

The median would be the middle class duh.

Bullshit. You think the middle class is $18,700 per person? Dupe.

If that's the median, just proves what a bust Reaganism is, except for the richest.

If that's the median

Median per capita. Derp!

just proves what a bust Reaganism is,

8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Obama still couldn't fix it? That's funny.

We still have ruinous Reaganist tax rates, dupe. Congrats, dupe.

We still have ruinous Reaganist tax rates, dupe.

Reagan's tax rate was 28%. Obama's is over 40%. Learn some math ya fucking moron.

Actually, 39% for over 400k, but effective 12%, dupe, with all the GOP loopholes and capital gains joke rates...