Capitalism Guarantees Rising Inequality

Millions would lose their jobs.

For example, many McDonald's stores are built by existing franchise owners. The value of a McDonald's store is easily $6 Million.

What this means is, every store owner would have a dis-incentive to open new stores, and provide more jobs.

If for each store they open, the amount of personal wealth they could enjoy, would be reduced.

I own one store worth $6 Million, and I have $14 Million in other assets (house, yacht, cars, blaw blaw blaw).

But if I build a second store, now I have two worth $12 Million, now I can only have $8 Million in other assets.

The incentive would be to not provide anymore growth and jobs.

Further, this rule would be nearly impossible to enforce. Most assets are not in personal property items anyway. Most wealth is tied up in stocks. Stocks go up and down in the market.

When the stock market goes up, and Bill Gates gains another $10 Million in stock price.... how do you propose we stop that? Just outright confiscate his stocks? We're going to be a nation built on thievery?

And wouldn't that simply encourage Bill Gates to move his assets out of the country? Move Microsoft to another country, where his stocks are out of reach by the government?

I think it would. And that kind of incentive would harm the middle and lower class, more than it would Bill Gates.
Personal assets are separate from corporate holdings. One may be the CEO of a ten billion dollar corporation but his/her personal assets must remain below twenty million. In other words, forget the mansion on a mountain and the $40,000,000 yacht. Those obscenities would no longer exist in America.

There presently is an "exit tax" which once would impose effective control over what we are seeing now in terms of offshore assets and expatriating billionaires. But the rules have been drastically softened over the years. If it were possible to impose the twenty-million dollar limit you may take for granted the imposition of rigid laws to prevent the substance of America's wealth resources from being removed from the Country.

Simply stated, if you manage to accumulate billions of dollars by exploiting this Nation's material, administrative, and human resources, that money stays here. You may not remove it. And any attempt to do so would invoke a severe criminal penalty.

My proposal is not confined to a twenty million dollar limit but would necessarily include many rules and strict laws to prevent evasion and manipulation.
There have been times in the recent past when financial speculation was a capital offense. (A real death tax) I don't think we need to go that far, but the rich could be subjected to a wealth limit that would function like a speed limit on public roads; however, I don't think elected Republicans OR Democrats will connect the dots in time. IMHO, we need to break the corporate stranglehold on US politics by choosing our Representatives and Senators from established third parties instead of either wing of the Wall Street Party.

The way it would function in reality is to drive all investment out of this country and reduce our standard of living to something resembling the standard of living in Somalia. It's amazing to me that any educated person could be stupid enough to believe a plan like that would actually work.
 
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When the stock market goes up, and Bill Gates gains another $10 Million in stock price.... how do you propose we stop that? Just outright confiscate his stocks?
Such contingencies would be managed with a 30 day period within which Gates must dispose of excess. He could transfer it to anyone he chooses whose assets are less then twenty million (any relative, friend, or charity). The alternative is confiscation.

Aside from the fact that it's utterly idiotic, there's a small problem with your plan called the 5th Amendment. One would almost believe that the Founding Fathers knew that there might be morons like you in the future of this country.

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We're going to be a nation built on thievery?
If you're one of those fanatical Libertarians who think of taxes as thievery, then yes. But I prefer to think of it as a nation built on equitable distribution of its exceptional wealth resources.

ROFL! Taxation is thievery. Can you explain the difference between taxation and thievery? And don't tell us it's not thievery because the government does it. All that proves is that taxation is government thievery.

Wealth isn't a "resource." Every dime of wealth was produced by someone. Your premise is that it appears miraculously out of thin air and never belongs to anyone until the government "distributes" it.
 
Almost all the food you eat has been modified by humans. You should stop eating.

Does GMO mean modified by humans? Your comment only has meaning if GMO means simply modified by humans. But we all know GMO stands for something quite specific, so sadly your left stinky brown diarrhea for us all to read. Do us a favor and think before you type.

Your belief that there's some inherent difference between species modified by breeding and species modified in the laboratory is baseless. Modern species of corn are quite incapable of breeding with Tiosinte, its ancient ancestor. In fact, most corn isn't capable of reproducing at all.
 
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And last of all, there have been many modern scholarly works that suggest that WPA and CCC, had little if any effect on the economy. In fact, in 1936, the economy sank into recession, all while those programs were in operation.

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I was born in 1936. According to my parents I might have been born in a hallway or in an alley if it were not for FDR's WPA and CCC programs which rescued us from the verge of homelessness, along with millions of other desperately unemployed Americans. And, again, according to my parents, who lived it, the effect of those work programs had a clearly uplifting effect not only on the economy but on the very mood of the nation. So believe whomever you choose to.

So while I'm not academically capable of offering a scholarly response to those scholarly denials of the success of FDR's programs, what I'm saying here comes right from the horse's mouth. It's from the front lines in the depth of the Great Depression. My parents always spoke reverently of Franklin Delano Roosevelt -- and for good reason.

I'd like to add that the CCC built the federal park system in my area (Wayne National Forest, Lake Vesuvius) that would have otherwise not existed. It obviously took work and the workers got paid. If this isn't economic facts showing the CCC benefited, nothing can.

Economics is not and should not be an utter abstraction. It dictates the lives of each and every human being so just for a second, let's consider its impact in my area. People received pay for helping create a beautiful park that is used by thousands each year for almost 100 years, and has been my personal sanctuary, then yeah, this has significant economic and health benefits on the citizens. Indeed the region at large has benefited as the park attracts tourists and is a fantastic open meeting space for family picnics and birthdays.

I guess since the idea behind the CCC and others was not to create profit and speculation, then it has no value. What utter dumb-fuckery. Ever wonder why the CCC was created in the first place? The speculation of banks. Glass steagall.

You're ignoring all the goods and services that weren't produced because labor was diverted from producing goods and services to giant landscaping projects which consumers obviously did not value as highly. What you call "abstractions" are really just facts that most people who don't study the issue thoroughly don't consider.
 
What does a billionaire imply? A market that is manipulated.

CEOs and Hedge Fund managers know their job is to monopolize the market, manipulate it if they can't run a collusion and extrapolate capital by all sorts of tricks, like preferred calls, advanced information and high frequency trading.

Moreover, their campaign contributions drowns out you and me from political significance. So you prefer to have less influence in the decisions made about your life?

You sound like your'e being paid by billionaires to say they are so useful instead of being coherent.

No it doesnt imply anythng of the sort. Unless you think Bill Gates and Warren Buffett have manipulated the market for about 50 years.

Ask George about manipulation of the market. Goldman sachs knows how to do this with aluminum. High frequency trading is market manipulation and preferred calls are legalized cheating--getting information sometimes weeks before it is public. See Raj Rajaratnam but everyone on Wall St knows.

Warren Buffet insists on being taxed more than current rates out of principle.

And how did Bill Gates get his wealth? HA! The government had virtually funded 100% of these unmarketable things called computers. As the US reached Japan's computing ability in the 80s, Gates was on the scene. He was that slithering snake that has all the work done for him and gets to claim its rewards as all the publics funds that developed computers was turned into private hands, we saw the profits. The internet was a success and we know the rest of the story.



I just think you need to be more critical than stupidly announcing "I think we should have lots of billionaires." This clearly did not arise from any meaningful thought but instead a trite little retort to a comment suggesting life is not solely about money.
 
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Noam Chomsky. Now there's an unbiased source.

Go take your class warfare success-hating bullshit and stick it up your ass.
 
Where is Democracy to be found in a world where the three richest individuals have assets that exceed the combined GDP of 47 countries?

A world where the richest 2% of global citizens "own" more than 51% of global assets?

Ready for the best part?

Capitalism ensures an already bad problem will only get worse.


"The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) states that income inequality 'first started to rise in the late ‘70s and early ‘80s in America and Britain (and also in Israel)'.

"The ratio between the average incomes of the top 5 per cent to the bottom 5 per cent in the world increased from 78:1 in 1988, to 114:1 in 1993..."

"Stiglitz relays that from 1988 to 2008 people in the world’s top 1 per cent saw their incomes increase by 60 per cent, while those in the bottom 5 per cent had no change in their income.

"In America, home to the 2008 recession, from 2009 to 2012, incomes of the top 1 per cent in America, many of which no doubt had a greedy hand in the causes of the meltdown, increased more than 31 per cent, while the incomes of the 99 per cent grew 0.4 per cent less than half a percentage point."

Spotlight on Worldwide Inequality

There are alternatives that don't require infinite "growth."
I believe all the things that are wrong with capitalism would not exist if those with big money (CAPITALISTS OR SOCIALISTS) would not be able to buy politicians and make them pass laws favoring their interests. As you said, BALANCE, and socialists just like capitalists take advantage of our political prostitutes in Washington. If we argue about the name of the enemy THEY WIN:

 
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Noam Chomsky. Now there's an unbiased source.

Go take your class warfare success-hating bullshit and stick it up your ass.

Now that's one well reasoned reply.

Can you tell me where class warfare was mentioned? Oh where was hate towards a group too? Oh, neither of your assertions have any relevancy to the matter at hand (in other words are strawman arguments)? To be expected when a child doesn't hear what it wants; adults assess claims based on their merit.
 
We could try for equality but to do so would mean bringing everyone down to the lowest common denominator. Jadaveon is never going to own a Wall Street bank and Rockefeller isn't about to relocate to Miami Gardens.
 
Noam Chomsky. Now there's an unbiased source.

Go take your class warfare success-hating bullshit and stick it up your ass.

Now that's one well reasoned reply.

Can you tell me where class warfare was mentioned? Oh where was hate towards a group too? Oh, neither of your assertions have any relevancy to the matter at hand (in other words are strawman arguments)? To be expected when a child doesn't hear what it wants; adults assess claims based on their merit.
I'm guessing Rabbi likes a Jew (Noam Chomsky) and I'm guessing I must be an "anti Semite" for stating that.
 
I'm all in for capital, I have my money in capital one with easy access. Every month my check gets deposited and my rent gets paid. I love this country since 2008.

About those jews, they are shady characters watch out for them. Barney Madoff that dude really had a scam going on all up in New York. Stole millions I heard.
 
Government shouldn't make success so profitable for welfare queens:

"This issue has become more known as we learn just how far some companies have gone in putting their employees on public assistance. According to one study, American fast food workers receive more than $7 billion dollars in public assistance.

"As it turns out, McDonald's has a 'McResource' line that helps employees and their families enroll in various state and local assistance programs.

"It exploded into the public when a recording of the McResource line advocated that full-time employees sign up for food stamps and welfare.

"Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest private sector employer, is also the biggest consumer of taxpayer supported aid.

"According to Florida Congressman Alan Grayson, in many states, Wal-Mart employees are the largest group of Medicaid recipients.

"They are also the single biggest group of food stamp recipients.

"Wal-mart’s 'associates' are paid so little, according to Grayson, that they receive $1,000 on average in public assistance. These amount to massive taxpayer subsidies for private companies."

How McDonald's and Wal-Mart Became Welfare Queens - Bloomberg

I guess we'd pay less welfare if WalMart and McDonald's shut their doors.

Idiot.
Rich bitches might pay even less in taxes if Wal-mart and McDonald's payed a living wage:lol:

If McDonald's doesn't pay you enough to survive, you should quit.
 
Almost all the food you eat has been modified by humans. You should stop eating.

Does GMO mean modified by humans? Your comment only has meaning if GMO means simply modified by humans. But we all know GMO stands for something quite specific, so sadly your left stinky brown diarrhea for us all to read. Do us a favor and think before you type.

Does GMO mean modified by humans?

Most of the food you eat is genetically different than it was before man.
Do you need examples?

Do us a favor and think before you type.

Do me a favor and think. It would be a nice change.
 
What does a billionaire imply? A market that is manipulated.

CEOs and Hedge Fund managers know their job is to monopolize the market, manipulate it if they can't run a collusion and extrapolate capital by all sorts of tricks, like preferred calls, advanced information and high frequency trading.

Moreover, their campaign contributions drowns out you and me from political significance. So you prefer to have less influence in the decisions made about your life?

You sound like your'e being paid by billionaires to say they are so useful instead of being coherent.

What does a billionaire imply? A market that is manipulated.

That only implies you are an idiot.
 
What does a billionaire imply? A market that is manipulated.

CEOs and Hedge Fund managers know their job is to monopolize the market, manipulate it if they can't run a collusion and extrapolate capital by all sorts of tricks, like preferred calls, advanced information and high frequency trading.

Moreover, their campaign contributions drowns out you and me from political significance. So you prefer to have less influence in the decisions made about your life?

You sound like your'e being paid by billionaires to say they are so useful instead of being coherent.

What does a billionaire imply? A market that is manipulated.

That only implies you are an idiot.
I thought it confirmed the fact. But that's just me.
 
Almost all the food you eat has been modified by humans. You should stop eating.

Does GMO mean modified by humans? Your comment only has meaning if GMO means simply modified by humans. But we all know GMO stands for something quite specific, so sadly your left stinky brown diarrhea for us all to read. Do us a favor and think before you type.

Does GMO mean modified by humans?

Most of the food you eat is genetically different than it was before man.
Do you need examples?

Do us a favor and think before you type.

Do me a favor and think. It would be a nice change.

I said it once but you didn't seem to understand because you're too busy defaming me. Use your rational faculties and pull your brain out of the murky waters of one-ups-manship.

GMO does not mean modified by humans.

GMO specifically means genetic modification by humans and it has no other meaning.

Thus, we must ask are their instances where "modification by humans" does not entail genetic modification? Does tattooing count as modification of the body? Yes. Is it genetic modification? No. Thus, your joke that someone should stop eating because all food has been "modified by humans" is inane. Of course, you don't care how imprecise you are because your arguments are fueled on misrepresentation.

The argument is not that we should not eat food because it's been "modified by humans" but we should be aware of what is GMO and is not. We don't have this option as most labels do not carry this information. And as you correctly identify most foods are GMO like corn. The argument is not to stop eating food, but it is to allow the public awareness of what they are eating. See the difference? I hope so but I doubt it because it nullifies your pointless post and inane joke.
 
Noam Chomsky. Now there's an unbiased source.

Go take your class warfare success-hating bullshit and stick it up your ass.

Now that's one well reasoned reply.

Can you tell me where class warfare was mentioned? Oh where was hate towards a group too? Oh, neither of your assertions have any relevancy to the matter at hand (in other words are strawman arguments)? To be expected when a child doesn't hear what it wants; adults assess claims based on their merit.

Class warfare is all your post was about. Do you think because you didn't use that phrase that you fooled anyone? Your hatred of success couldn't be more obvious.
 

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