Capitalism would reduce health care costs to 20% of current levels but....

[Rshermr]

So ed, being a con tool, states the following con lies:

You have learned before that this is because:

1) there is no private insurance in America. Private companies were made illegal by McCarran Ferguson in 1946

Corporations are public, but what I and others refer to when discussing private insurance is that they are non government. Not, in other words, socialized medical systems. Get it yet, dipshit? Jesus, only a con tool would be stupid enough to believe that anyone did not know that corporations are public.

2) we are richer and can afford to pay more for cars and heatlhcare and homes

Richer than some of the oecd countries, less rich than other, dipshit. You need to stop lying.rea
So, you are suggesting that if we make more we should want to pay over twice as much as other countries. Problem is, that is because you are a con tool. Those of us in the rational world do not want to, dipshit.

3)

we have a spaghetti mess of more socialism in health care than other countries so the price is driven up still further.

Not so, me boy. Another lie, which is why you can not prove it.

Remember that in China prices came way way down with capitalism so everyone could
afford everything they could not afford under deadly liberalism.

The reason you have no proof of these statements is that you are lying. Again.

Do you understand now?

I always have, me boy. What I understand is that you are a con tool. And a liar. Which we all know.
Truth is, that excluding the us there are 33 other OECD countries. Of those, 32 have government run health insurance and government regulated medical facilities. Next, dipshit.

 

[Rshermr]

Capitalism would reduce health care costs to 20% of current levels but....



87.2% of internet statistics are made up on the spot

not made up. we know that East Germany Red China and USSR had about 20% of our standard of living

87.2% of internet statistics are made up on the spot

Ed simply pulls them out of his ass. Is that the same as making them up???

 

[JakeStarkey]

true capitalism will sky rocket health care costs

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

not made up. we know that East Germany Red China and USSR had about 20% of our standard of living

87.2% of internet statistics are made up on the spot

Ed simply pulls them out of his ass. Is that the same as making them up???

not made up. we know that East Germany Red China and USSR had about 20% of our standard of living

 

[JakeStarkey]

eddy, you are not making any sense.

Are you posting from the basement again?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Of those, 32 have government run health insurance and government regulated medical facilities. Next, dipshit.

and??

 

[JakeStarkey]

eddy, your opinion is not proof: do you understand that?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

private insurance is that they are non government.

yes they are private but freed from capitalist competition so not capitalist either. If you want them to produce miracles like other capitalist businesses they have to be free to compete. This is the heart of capitalism.

Do you understand now?

 

[JakeStarkey]

private insurance is that they are non government.

yes they are private but freed from capitalist competition so not capitalist either. If you want them to produce miracles like other capitalist businesses they have to be free to compete. This is the heart of capitalism.

Do you understand now?

eddy, that is only your opinion. Where is your evidence?

 

[Rshermr]

87.2% of internet statistics are made up on the spot

Ed simply pulls them out of his ass. Is that the same as making them up???

not made up. we know that East Germany Red China and USSR had about 20% of our standard of living

And ed, being too stupid to understand what he is doing, proves again by pulling more statements from his ample ass.

 

[Rshermr]

Of those, 32 have government run health insurance and government regulated medical facilities. Next, dipshit.

and??

I know you do not understand. Again, me boy, as a congenital idiot you are really not expected to understand. Really, it is not your fault. It is just congenital. Just plain bad luck.

 

[Rshermr]

private insurance is that they are non government.

yes they are private but freed from capitalist competition so not capitalist either. If you want them to produce miracles like other capitalist businesses they have to be free to compete. This is the heart of capitalism.

Do you understand now?

And ed is also a comedian, in his own little mind. He thinks he understands something quite often. Remember, ed. It is simply that you are a congenital idiot. Not your fault at all. Just plain bad luck.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Of those, 32 have government run health insurance and government regulated medical facilities. Next, dipshit.

and??

I know you do not understand. Again, me boy, as a congenital idiot you are really not expected to understand. Really, it is not your fault. It is just congenital. Just plain bad luck.

argumentum ad hominem from typical liberal without IQ for substance

 

[Rshermr]

and??

I know you do not understand. Again, me boy, as a congenital idiot you are really not expected to understand. Really, it is not your fault. It is just congenital. Just plain bad luck.

argumentum ad hominem from typical liberal without IQ for substance

I am not attacking you, me poor ignorant tool. I simply feel sorry for you. As I have said. You are a congenital idiot. Not your fault at all. Hell, it is an accomplishment for you to put words on a blog. No one feels you should be held responsible for making any sense. And you do not disappoint.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I know you do not understand. Again, me boy, as a congenital idiot you are really not expected to understand. Really, it is not your fault. It is just congenital. Just plain bad luck.

argumentum ad hominem from typical liberal without IQ for substance

I am not attacking you, me poor ignorant tool. I simply feel sorry for you. As I have said. You are a congenital idiot. Not your fault at all. Hell, it is an accomplishment to put words on a blog. No one feels you are capable of making any sense. And you do not disappoint.

argumentum ad hominem from typical liberal without IQ for substance

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No one feels you are capable of making any sense.

If you feel Milton Friedman does not make any sense please say exactly where or admit you lack the IQ to defend what you say.

 

[sealybobo]

because liberals are unable to understand capitalism it won't happen.

Conservatives don't have a real clue about what capitalism is versus what they push for...Myths and fairy tales is ALL libertarians have!

So true.

Twenty cents from every $1 goes to "marketing, underwriting, administration, and profit

It's absurd to think that for profits will save us money. What about the profit motive? Cut that out and healthcare costs drop dramatically.

Why is American healthcare so expensive? Some experts blame the desire for profit. They talk about the morphing of American medicine from a function of a humanitarian society into a revenue stream for healthcare profits, drug and medical device companies, hospitals, and insurance companies. In essence, we have transformed healthcare in the U.S. into an industry whose goal is to be profitable.”

“The five largest health insurance companies – WellPoint, United Health, Aetna, Humana, and Cigna – … earned over $3.3 billion in profits [between April and June 2011].” Profit in the health insurance industry is the single greatest barrier to building an efficient, sustainable system of healthcare in this country.”

 

[ScienceRocks]

Why should a poor person have to pay a thousand dollars to drive down the street? Wouldn't this hurt our economy as we're taking more out of it.

Our tax system makes it fair for all and allows us to all help in paying for it. We're one society so this is the way it should be as it is something we all use.

 

[Rshermr]

argumentum ad hominem from typical liberal without IQ for substance

I am not attacking you, me poor ignorant tool. I simply feel sorry for you. As I have said. You are a congenital idiot. Not your fault at all. Hell, it is an accomplishment to put words on a blog. No one feels you are capable of making any sense. And you do not disappoint.

argumentum ad hominem from typical liberal without IQ for substance

Me poor ignorant too, ad hominems are attacks against a person rather than his argument. You need to understand that 1. You do not post arguments, you post dogma and lies without backing, and 2. I am not attacking you, but explaining why you are incapable of making a rational argument. Please try to understand the term. I know that is asking a lot of a congenital idiot, but give it a try.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It's absurd to think that for profits will save us money.

A little Econ 101 for you, class one day one:

1) without profit no one would invest in a great new product or service

2) when there is great profit caused by a great product this attracts competition to drive down the profits until they are $0


now you can see why when China switched to profit driven capitalism they instantly eliminated 40% of world poverty.

Now do you understand?