Career Politicians

Leo123

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Isn't it time to require politicians to have experience in having a business? We are currently being run by Harvard would be lawyers and family (Biden) 'royalty.'
 
Isn't it time to require politicians to have experience in having a business? We are currently being run by Harvard would be lawyers and family (Biden) 'royalty.'
It would require a constitutional amendment, and seems overly restrictive.
 
Isn't it time to require politicians to have experience in having a business? We are currently being run by Harvard would be lawyers and family (Biden) 'royalty.'
LOL. We just got done with one of those men who had "experience" in business. Pretty sure he backed into the highest office in the land. And he is going to go down as the WORST President this country ever elected!! :auiqs.jpg:

You people are hysterical.
 
LOL. We just got done with one of those men who had "experience" in business. Pretty sure he backed into the highest office in the land. And he is going to go down as the WORST President this country ever elected!! :auiqs.jpg:

You people are hysterical.
I am sure if other candidates showed up like yours, if these Repubs win in November and pull the same crap we have seen, we will vote for real extremists like you do. Just killing much of the Prog media/entertainers would be a good start.
 
Isn't it time to require politicians to have experience in having a business? We are currently being run by Harvard would be lawyers and family (Biden) 'royalty.'
Mere experience shouldn’t be enough. They should be able to provide evidence that they’re competent and haven’t left a trail of bankruptcies and failed businesses in their wake.
 
Isn't it time to require politicians to have experience in having a business? We are currently being run by Harvard would be lawyers and family (Biden) 'royalty.'
There is no time for that man!

The world is dying of carbon emissions!

Quick, raise taxes, start eating bugs instead of meat, stop driving cars etc....................................
 
It's a shame that the Founders didn't put term limits for Congress in the Constitution.
The career politicians are the root cause of the madness we are experiencing today.
Only states can do that through the Article V movement

It has never been done before, but now is the time.
 
LOL. We just got done with one of those men who had "experience" in business. Pretty sure he backed into the highest office in the land. And he is going to go down as the WORST President this country ever elected!! :auiqs.jpg:

You people are hysterical.
But Obama never had business experience. That is who you were talking about. Right?
 
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It's a shame that the Founders didn't put term limits for Congress in the Constitution.
The career politicians are the root cause of the madness we are experiencing today.
The founders didn't put it into the constitution for a good reason.

I trust their judgement over yours.
 
The founders didn't put it into the constitution for a good reason.

I trust their judgement over yours.
IMO, the Founders didn't include congressional term limits because, at that time, information was not easily obtainable by The People. Vast distances made news already too late by the time one received it. Therefore, the Founders saw the Representatives as better informed and, at the time, the thought of a career politician was just not seen as a problem because the thought was that they would serve then go back home. Serving in the Congress at that time was more of a patriotic chore than a chance to get rich. Since then, our Republic has evolved and now we do have career politicians who have been in Congress or in D.C their whole working lives and have become somewhat detached from The People. Maybe it's time for Congressional term limits?
 
IMO, the Founders didn't include congressional term limits because, at that time, information was not easily obtainable by The People. Vast distances made news already too late by the time one received it. Therefore, the Founders saw the Representatives as better informed and, at the time, the thought of a career politician was just not seen as a problem because the thought was that they would serve then go back home. Serving in the Congress at that time was more of a patriotic chore than a chance to get rich. Since then, our Republic has evolved and now we do have career politicians who have been in Congress or in D.C their whole working lives and have become somewhat detached from The People. Maybe it's time for Congressional term limits?
Congressional term limits are a paradox. I read in a pew research poll a couple years ago (sorry I can't find the poll to link it) and it polled that 89 percent of voters support congressional terms limits...that and that Shawshank Redemption is a great movie are one of the few things the left and the right agree on.

The paradox is that if 89 percent of voters support congressional term limits, then why the hell do these same 89 percent keep voting the same people in?

That said...

From Federalist paper 53 by James Madison.

"[A] few of the members of Congress will possess superior talents; will by frequent re-elections, become members of long standing; will be thoroughly masters of the public business, and perhaps not unwilling to avail themselves of those advantages. The greater the proportion of new members of Congress, and the less the information of the bulk of the members, the more apt they be to fall into the snares that may be laid before them," wrote Madison."


I mean really. Putin, Xi and other authoritarian leaders live their entire life to be ruthless and increase their power.

How effective do you think a Congress full of n00bs like AOC or MTG would be when planning our global strategies against these leaders?
 
Isn't it time to require politicians to have experience in having a business? We are currently being run by Harvard would be lawyers and family (Biden) 'royalty.'
Our last two businessmen presidents (Hoover and Trump) were disasters.
 
It's a shame that the Founders didn't put term limits for Congress in the Constitution.
The career politicians are the root cause of the madness we are experiencing today.
People give low approval ratings for Congress (currently around 18 percent approval), and yet they re-elect the incumbents in the House 98 percent of the time! And the Senate 80 percent of the time!

"Those other guys spend too much on PORK, buy my guy brings home the BACON!"

Look in the mirror. There's your problem.
 
IMO, the Founders didn't include congressional term limits because, at that time, information was not easily obtainable by The People. Vast distances made news already too late by the time one received it. Therefore, the Founders saw the Representatives as better informed and, at the time, the thought of a career politician was just not seen as a problem because the thought was that they would serve then go back home. Serving in the Congress at that time was more of a patriotic chore than a chance to get rich. Since then, our Republic has evolved and now we do have career politicians who have been in Congress or in D.C their whole working lives and have become somewhat detached from The People. Maybe it's time for Congressional term limits?
On my arrival in the United States I was surprised to find so much distinguished talent among the subjects, and so little among the heads of the Government. It is a well-authenticated fact, that at the present day the most able men in the United States are very rarely placed at the head of affairs; and it must be acknowledged that such has been the result in proportion as democracy has outstepped all its former limits. The race of American statesmen has evidently dwindled most remarkably in the course of the last fifty years.

Several causes may be assigned to this phenomenon. It is impossible, notwithstanding the most strenuous exertions, to raise the intelligence of the people above a certain level. Whatever may be the facilities of acquiring information, whatever may be the profusion of easy methods and of cheap science, the human mind can never be instructed and educated without devoting a considerable space of time to those objects.

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Long and patient observation, joined to a multitude of different notions, is required to form a just estimate of the character of a single individual; and can it be supposed that the vulgar have the power of succeeding in an inquiry which misleads the penetration of genius itself? The people has neither the time nor the means which are essential to the prosecution of an investigation of this kind: its conclusions are hastily formed from a superficial inspection of the more prominent features of a question. Hence it often assents to the clamor of a mountebank who knows the secret of stimulating its tastes, while its truest friends frequently fail in their exertions.

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In the United States the people is not disposed to hate the superior classes of society; but it is not very favorably inclined towards them, and it carefully excludes them from the exercise of authority. It does not entertain any dread of distinguished talents, but it is rarely captivated by them; and it awards its approbation very sparingly to such as have risen without the popular support.

Whilst the natural propensities of democracy induce the people to reject the most distinguished citizens as its rulers,
these individuals are no less apt to retire from a political career in which it is almost impossible to retain their independence, or to advance without degrading themselves.

Democracy in America, Part I. by Alexis de Tocqueville
 
"Hence it often assents to the clamor of a mountebank who knows the secret of stimulating its tastes, while its truest friends frequently fail in their exertions."

A perfect description of the Trump phenomenon.
 
George Washington was a businessman do you consider him a disaster?
He was also a general and a statesman. He did not complain of bone spurs when called upon to serve his country.

He didn't steal from the elderly. He was not a crook.
 
He was also a general and a statesman. He did not complain of bone spurs when called upon to serve his country.

He didn't steal from the elderly. He was not a crook.
Trump proved himself a statesman, no new wars, best economy, lowest gas prices, a vaccine in record time. He was also a great Commander in Chief and built up our military. If you dislike crooks you must really hate Biden who has taken illegal money through his son and who also did not serve because of 'allergies' so you can stuff your argument where the sun don't shine.
 

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