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Challenge to my liberal friends

You still haven't told us what happened, they had meetings, Flynn lied for some reason....that's it... Manafort stuff has nothing to do with Russian Collusion.....so give us a high level look at what you think happened?

  • Russia attacked democracy in America
  • Russians' met with Team Trump
  • Trump has not ever defended our election from what is known about the Russian attack on our democracy. Period: No crime, no time.
However:
  • There are two concurrent investigations
  1. Russia's impact on our Election
  2. Trump&Co. efforts to obstruct #1
Does this help refine the issues?

Here's a fact: Obama was president when the "Russians attacked democracy in America", Trump wasn't.

What did Obama do about it?

The Post’s new findings in Russia’s bold campaign to influence the U.S. election

Holy crap! What a long, lying, Obama-fellating piece of shit fake news that is.

I want my time back for reading that!

Be real, you didn't waste your time, you spend most of your time in mental masturbation. Rumor has it, when you play with yourself, you lose.

I accept your capitulation. :coffee:
 
  • Russia attacked democracy in America
  • Russians' met with Team Trump
  • Trump has not ever defended our election from what is known about the Russian attack on our democracy. Period: No crime, no time.
However:
  • There are two concurrent investigations
  1. Russia's impact on our Election
  2. Trump&Co. efforts to obstruct #1
Does this help refine the issues?

Here's a fact: Obama was president when the "Russians attacked democracy in America", Trump wasn't.

What did Obama do about it?

The Post’s new findings in Russia’s bold campaign to influence the U.S. election

Holy crap! What a long, lying, Obama-fellating piece of shit fake news that is.

I want my time back for reading that!

Be real, you didn't waste your time, you spend most of your time in mental masturbation. Rumor has it, when you play with yourself, you lose.

I accept your capitulation. :coffee:

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The quid pro quo suspected is that the Trump team worked with our KNOWN enemy to sway the election in his favor...directly working with or conspiring with a foreign govt to influence our election is against the law. Then you have the Russian THEFT of the DNC and Podesta emails that were strategically released by their partner, Julian assange on wikileaks....and Trump calling for them to be released amd the possibility that the Trump team coordinated with the Russians and wikileaks to disburse the stolen goods...also illegal.

and in return, Trump would remove the Sanctions (part of the Russian adoption guise) on the Russians for their illegal actions in Crimea etc....

The evidence they have so far is all of the lies Trump and team told about the Trump team meetings with all of the Russian operatives, the call from Trump

then you have Flynn, coordinating between Trump and the Russian Ambassador operative, to remove the most recent sanctions for their interference and lying to the FBI over it, during the transition period and the day Obama admin put the new sanctions on them.... and Trump trying to abuse his power by asking the FBI to ignore the law, and let Flynn go....

And you have Sessions lying under oath, about his Russian meetings, and Kushner lying about his Russian connections, and Papadopolis lying about his Russian meetings and connections and carter Page connections to the Russians, and Don Junior and Trump lying about the meeting with the 5 Russians in the Trump tower meeting etc etc etc etc etc....

And you have Manafort and other Trump team members lying about changing the GOP/RNC platform at the convention to remove our help to the Ukraine to defend against Russian aggression taking place in the region....

And then there is the money laundering aspect.....Trump and kushner and manafort have been using Real estate to sell to the Russian/Putin oligarchs at a price double of what the property is worth which helps the Russians launder their money in the American marketplace, by passing the sanctions and Trump etc is getting their "cut" for it.....

And there are many more things like the above that Mueller is investigating like the obstruction of justice, with Trump trying to interfere and stop the investigation because he has a lot to hide....

Wowie! Where'd you get all this info? :eek:
 
Here is the challenge:

There has been so much talk about how the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia but almost no talk of exactly "how" did the team "collude". Explain your theory about how the Trump team specifically and tangibly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election?

I'm guessing you don't have any liberal friends here.
 
The quid pro quo suspected is that the Trump team worked with our KNOWN enemy to sway the election in his favor...directly working with or conspiring with a foreign govt to influence our election is against the law. Then you have the Russian THEFT of the DNC and Podesta emails that were strategically released by their partner, Julian assange on wikileaks....and Trump calling for them to be released amd the possibility that the Trump team coordinated with the Russians and wikileaks to disburse the stolen goods...also illegal.

and in return, Trump would remove the Sanctions (part of the Russian adoption guise) on the Russians for their illegal actions in Crimea etc....

The evidence they have so far is all of the lies Trump and team told about the Trump team meetings with all of the Russian operatives, the call from Trump

then you have Flynn, coordinating between Trump and the Russian Ambassador operative, to remove the most recent sanctions for their interference and lying to the FBI over it, during the transition period and the day Obama admin put the new sanctions on them.... and Trump trying to abuse his power by asking the FBI to ignore the law, and let Flynn go....

And you have Sessions lying under oath, about his Russian meetings, and Kushner lying about his Russian connections, and Papadopolis lying about his Russian meetings and connections and carter Page connections to the Russians, and Don Junior and Trump lying about the meeting with the 5 Russians in the Trump tower meeting etc etc etc etc etc....

And you have Manafort and other Trump team members lying about changing the GOP/RNC platform at the convention to remove our help to the Ukraine to defend against Russian aggression taking place in the region....

And then there is the money laundering aspect.....Trump and kushner and manafort have been using Real estate to sell to the Russian/Putin oligarchs at a price double of what the property is worth which helps the Russians launder their money in the American marketplace, by passing the sanctions and Trump etc is getting their "cut" for it.....

And there are many more things like the above that Mueller is investigating like the obstruction of justice, with Trump trying to interfere and stop the investigation because he has a lot to hide....
That isn't a crime... What is Moooler investigating wasting our tax dollars on a claim of Russian Collusion yet cant find shit about it. Pull your head out of Uranus and take a breath.. Stop drinking the liberal kool aid, turn off the Lame Stream media, and FUCKING THINK FOR YOURSELF, not listen to Morning Joke and Zika Brasnowski.
 
Here is the challenge:

There has been so much talk about how the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia but almost no talk of exactly "how" did the team "collude". Explain your theory about how the Trump team specifically and tangibly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election?
Mr. Trump specifically asked for Russian assistance.
 
Here is the challenge:

There has been so much talk about how the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia but almost no talk of exactly "how" did the team "collude". Explain your theory about how the Trump team specifically and tangibly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election?

I'm guessing you don't have any liberal friends here.

I'm guessing you don't either. :)
 
Here is the challenge:

There has been so much talk about how the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia but almost no talk of exactly "how" did the team "collude". Explain your theory about how the Trump team specifically and tangibly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election?
The Russia investigations are not the purview of "liberals," nor is it incumbent upon "liberals" to justify the investigations.

The investigations are warranted because there is ample objective evidence of Russia's interference with the 2016 General Election and wrongdoing on the part of Trump offficials.
 
Seriously? This is no challenge, the evidence is clear. Members of the Trump Team met with Russians. The same members lied about the meetings and attempted to mislead the public and LE on the purpose/agenda of said meetings.

Point: Those issues are not necessarily criminal acts. However, the lack of transparency is suspicious, and the lies to LE are criminal acts.

See: OSBA | What You Should Know about Obstruction of Justice

Any questions?

Talking about criminal activity and misleading the public, the Lame Stream Media not only lied about President Trump but lied to you shithole liberals, that Hitlery was going to win by a landslide. Why aren't you going after lame stream media for colluding against you? Because stupid is as stupid votes, and they vote Democrat..

LOL Nice rant. Do you have a question on the issue of Obstruction of Justice? Did you read the link? If so (and I suspect you didn't) did you understand it?
You still haven't told us what happened, they had meetings, Flynn lied for some reason....that's it... Manafort stuff has nothing to do with Russian Collusion.....so give us a high level look at what you think happened?

  • Russia attacked democracy in America
  • Russians' met with Team Trump
  • Trump has not ever defended our election from what is known about the Russian attack on our democracy. Period: No crime, no time.
However:
  • There are two concurrent investigations
  1. Russia's impact on our Election
  2. Trump&Co. efforts to obstruct #1
Does this help refine the issues?

Here's a fact: Obama was president when the "Russians attacked democracy in America", Trump wasn't.

What did Obama do about it?

He enacted sanctions that Trump lifted. Thanks for asking.
 
lol, so if Trump gets busted for obstruction of justice,

you people are saying that he will have obstructed an investigation into crimes he never committed?

that would be awesome!
 
Here is the challenge:

There has been so much talk about how the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia but almost no talk of exactly "how" did the team "collude". Explain your theory about how the Trump team specifically and tangibly "colluded" with Russia to influence the election?

never happened

any "collusion" was with the Russians and members of the democrat party such as hillary

Are you a liberal or just can't read?


denying the facts now are yee

typical leftist
 
The quid pro quo suspected is that the Trump team worked with our KNOWN enemy to sway the election in his favor...directly working with or conspiring with a foreign govt to influence our election is against the law. Then you have the Russian THEFT of the DNC and Podesta emails that were strategically released by their partner, Julian assange on wikileaks....and Trump calling for them to be released amd the possibility that the Trump team coordinated with the Russians and wikileaks to disburse the stolen goods...also illegal.

and in return, Trump would remove the Sanctions (part of the Russian adoption guise) on the Russians for their illegal actions in Crimea etc....

The evidence they have so far is all of the lies Trump and team told about the Trump team meetings with all of the Russian operatives, the call from Trump

then you have Flynn, coordinating between Trump and the Russian Ambassador operative, to remove the most recent sanctions for their interference and lying to the FBI over it, during the transition period and the day Obama admin put the new sanctions on them.... and Trump trying to abuse his power by asking the FBI to ignore the law, and let Flynn go....

And you have Sessions lying under oath, about his Russian meetings, and Kushner lying about his Russian connections, and Papadopolis lying about his Russian meetings and connections and carter Page connections to the Russians, and Don Junior and Trump lying about the meeting with the 5 Russians in the Trump tower meeting etc etc etc etc etc....

And you have Manafort and other Trump team members lying about changing the GOP/RNC platform at the convention to remove our help to the Ukraine to defend against Russian aggression taking place in the region....

And then there is the money laundering aspect.....Trump and kushner and manafort have been using Real estate to sell to the Russian/Putin oligarchs at a price double of what the property is worth which helps the Russians launder their money in the American marketplace, by passing the sanctions and Trump etc is getting their "cut" for it.....

And there are many more things like the above that Mueller is investigating like the obstruction of justice, with Trump trying to interfere and stop the investigation because he has a lot to hide....

Wowie! Where'd you get all this info? :eek:


Just by reading and keeping up with the several investigations....

Mueller has his hands full,

there is a lot going on here for him to figure out....
 
lol, so if Trump gets busted for obstruction of justice,

you people are saying that he will have obstructed an investigation into crimes he never committed?

that would be awesome!
There was no crime in having oral sex with a 24 year old either, but Clinton was nailed for lying about it under oath.
 
lol, so if Trump gets busted for obstruction of justice,

you people are saying that he will have obstructed an investigation into crimes he never committed?

that would be awesome!
There was no crime in having oral sex with a 24 year old either, but Clinton was nailed for lying about it under oath.

Ummm... yeah... having consensual sex with another adult is not a crime, PERJURY on the other hand is.
 
lol, so if Trump gets busted for obstruction of justice,

you people are saying that he will have obstructed an investigation into crimes he never committed?

that would be awesome!
Obstruction of Justice for What? Come on libtards, man up and tell US. Stop beating a dead donkey..

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lol, so if Trump gets busted for obstruction of justice,

you people are saying that he will have obstructed an investigation into crimes he never committed?

that would be awesome!
There was no crime in having oral sex with a 24 year old either, but Clinton was nailed for lying about it under oath.
Except that William Jefferson Clinton, abused his power by poking a young intern in the parts that bleed with a Cuban Cigar, and getting the Lewinski in the Oval Orifice, during office hours. We now know that Harvey Weinstein, a bleeding heart liberal who LOVES women did the same thing, and he had to resign because of it. But hey Clinton got 5 years probation from practicing law, was admired by the liberal women(who are stupid as hell) his wife the enabler, almost achieved the white house and Bill is pissed that he cant get more interns for 4 more years...
 
lol, so if Trump gets busted for obstruction of justice,

you people are saying that he will have obstructed an investigation into crimes he never committed?

that would be awesome!
There was no crime in having oral sex with a 24 year old either, but Clinton was nailed for lying about it under oath.

Ummm... yeah... having consensual sex with another adult is not a crime, PERJURY on the other hand is.
absolutely, it is a form of obstruction of justice....via lying and can send investigators on a wild goose chase....

but you missed my point completely....

Obstruction of Justice, does not have to have an underlying crime, nor does perjury...
 
lol, so if Trump gets busted for obstruction of justice,

you people are saying that he will have obstructed an investigation into crimes he never committed?

that would be awesome!
There was no crime in having oral sex with a 24 year old either, but Clinton was nailed for lying about it under oath.
Except that William Jefferson Clinton, abused his power by poking a young intern in the parts that bleed with a Cuban Cigar, and getting the Lewinski in the Oval Orifice, during office hours. We now know that Harvey Weinstein, a bleeding heart liberal who LOVES women did the same thing, and he had to resign because of it. But hey Clinton got 5 years probation from practicing law, was admired by the liberal women(who are stupid as hell) his wife the enabler, almost achieved the white house and Bill is pissed that he cant get more interns for 4 more years...
Monica Lewinsky went after and chased Bill Clinton, that was testimony under oath by her back stabbing so called friend, that was wired by Starr before meeting with Monica.

and regardless, NO it was not a crime to have sex with her...but the lying about it under oath, was the stand alone crime......

and the same with Trump, whether there was an underlying crime or not, if he obstructed an official investigation, with or without a crime committed, it is still a crime for the obstruction.
 

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