Choose your "Facts" about what happened on 911

[PhysicsExist]

I urge all you sane folks to remember that this thread is called "choose your facts". That said, I started it to finally get some of the twoofertards to post what it is they believe. It is so fucking hard to get them to stand up for something as they are usually just casting dispersions and being turds.

2.25 seconds of freefall is not debatable.

The only way for freefall to occur in a steel high rise is explosives.

“The collapse we see cannot be due to a column failure, or a few column failures, or a sequence of column failures. All 24 interior columns and 58 perimeter columns had to have been removed over the span of 8 floors low in the building simultaneously to within a small fraction of a second, and in such a way that the top half of the building remains intact and uncrumpled.”

Only explosives can instantaneously remove 8 stories allowing the upper structure to accelerate downwards in free fall. The absolute free fall of Building 7 over a period of 2.25 seconds is by itself overwhelming evidence that explosives were used to bring down the building.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw&feature=related[/ame]

That is a fact. You choose to avoid it.

 

[DiveCon]

I urge all you sane folks to remember that this thread is called "choose your facts". That said, I started it to finally get some of the twoofertards to post what it is they believe. It is so fucking hard to get them to stand up for something as they are usually just casting dispersions and being turds.

2.25 seconds of freefall is not debatable.

The only way for freefall to occur in a steel high rise is explosives.

“The collapse we see cannot be due to a column failure, or a few column failures, or a sequence of column failures. All 24 interior columns and 58 perimeter columns had to have been removed over the span of 8 floors low in the building simultaneously to within a small fraction of a second, and in such a way that the top half of the building remains intact and uncrumpled.”

Only explosives can instantaneously remove 8 stories allowing the upper structure to accelerate downwards in free fall. The absolute free fall of Building 7 over a period of 2.25 seconds is by itself overwhelming evidence that explosives were used to bring down the building.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw&feature=related[/ame]

That is a fact. You choose to avoid it.

no one has avoided it, dipshit
but your analysis of it is faulty as is AE911's
they had a conclusion to fit before they came to an analysis

 

[Patriot911]

PE, I started wading through the bullshit you posted until I got to the first outright lie. Here it is:

2. Explosives can be engineered so that heat alone will not detonate them. The plastic explosive C4, for example, requires the simultaneous delivery of high heat and pressure to induce detonation.

I have a friend who was in Vietnam. C4 does take high pressure and heat to detonate. That doesn't mean it won't burn without detonating. They use to burn bricks of C4 little pieces at a time to keep warm.

 

[candycorn]

PE, I started wading through the bullshit you posted until I got to the first outright lie. Here it is:

2. Explosives can be engineered so that heat alone will not detonate them. The plastic explosive C4, for example, requires the simultaneous delivery of high heat and pressure to induce detonation.

I have a friend who was in Vietnam. C4 does take high pressure and heat to detonate. That doesn't mean it won't burn without detonating. They use to burn bricks of C4 little pieces at a time to keep warm.

C4 usually has a distinguishable boom and residue as well. None of which was heard; none of which was found.

 

[SFC Ollie]

PE, I started wading through the bullshit you posted until I got to the first outright lie. Here it is:

2. Explosives can be engineered so that heat alone will not detonate them. The plastic explosive C4, for example, requires the simultaneous delivery of high heat and pressure to induce detonation.

I have a friend who was in Vietnam. C4 does take high pressure and heat to detonate. That doesn't mean it won't burn without detonating. They use to burn bricks of C4 little pieces at a time to keep warm.

An electrical detonator, for example, uses a brief charge to set off a small amount of explosive material. When somebody triggers the detonator (by transmitting the charge through detonator cord to a blasting cap, for example), the explosion applies a powerful shock that triggers the C-4 explosive material.

HowStuffWorks "C-4 Plastic Explosives"

Yep you can light it with a match and it will simply burn like a fake fire log....

 

[PhysicsExist]

PE, I started wading through the bullshit you posted until I got to the first outright lie. Here it is:

2. Explosives can be engineered so that heat alone will not detonate them. The plastic explosive C4, for example, requires the simultaneous delivery of high heat and pressure to induce detonation.

I have a friend who was in Vietnam. C4 does take high pressure and heat to detonate. That doesn't mean it won't burn without detonating. They use to burn bricks of C4 little pieces at a time to keep warm.

An electrical detonator, for example, uses a brief charge to set off a small amount of explosive material. When somebody triggers the detonator (by transmitting the charge through detonator cord to a blasting cap, for example), the explosion applies a powerful shock that triggers the C-4 explosive material.

HowStuffWorks "C-4 Plastic Explosives"

Yep you can light it with a match and it will simply burn like a fake fire log....

“The collapse we see cannot be due to a column failure, or a few column failures, or a sequence of column failures. All 24 interior columns and 58 perimeter columns had to have been removed over the span of 8 floors low in the building simultaneously to within a small fraction of a second, and in such a way that the top half of the building remains intact and uncrumpled.”

Only explosives can instantaneously remove 8 stories allowing the upper structure to accelerate downwards in free fall. The absolute free fall of Building 7 over a period of 2.25 seconds is by itself overwhelming evidence that explosives were used to bring down the building.




National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), “Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 – Draft for Public Comment,” Washington, DC. August 2008. Chapter 3 p.41. http://wtc.nist.gov/media/NIST_NCSTAR_1A_for_public_comment.pdf

[ii] NIST WTC 7 Technical Briefing, August 26, 2008. http://911speakout.org/NIST_Tech_Briefing_Transcript.pdf Transcript p.16

[iii] Ibid.

[iv] Quoted by David Ray Griffin, “The Mysterious Collapse of WTC 7: Why NIST’s Final 9/11 Report is Unscientific and False,” GlobalResearch.ca, September 14, 2009. The Mysterious Collapse of WTC Seven

[v] NIST NCSTAR 1A, “Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7,” Washington, DC. November 2008. p.45 NIST and the World Trade Center

[vi] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw&feature=related[/ame]

Independent researchers have discovered a highly engineered explosive-incendiary material in several dust samples collected near the WTC site. In their paper, entitled Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, nine researchers, led by chemist Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen, conclude:

“[T]he red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.”

REFERENCES

Harrit, Farrer, Jones, Ryan, Legge, Farnsworth, Roberts, Gourley, Larsen, “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe,” Bentham Open Access, 2009. http://buildingwhat.org/downloads/Full_Thermite_paper.pdf

 

[candycorn]

PE, I started wading through the bullshit you posted until I got to the first outright lie. Here it is:



I have a friend who was in Vietnam. C4 does take high pressure and heat to detonate. That doesn't mean it won't burn without detonating. They use to burn bricks of C4 little pieces at a time to keep warm.

An electrical detonator, for example, uses a brief charge to set off a small amount of explosive material. When somebody triggers the detonator (by transmitting the charge through detonator cord to a blasting cap, for example), the explosion applies a powerful shock that triggers the C-4 explosive material.

HowStuffWorks "C-4 Plastic Explosives"

Yep you can light it with a match and it will simply burn like a fake fire log....

“The collapse we see cannot be due to a column failure, or a few column failures, or a sequence of column failures. All 24 interior columns and 58 perimeter columns had to have been removed over the span of 8 floors low in the building simultaneously to within a small fraction of a second, and in such a way that the top half of the building remains intact and uncrumpled.”

Only explosives can instantaneously remove 8 stories allowing the upper structure to accelerate downwards in free fall. The absolute free fall of Building 7 over a period of 2.25 seconds is by itself overwhelming evidence that explosives were used to bring down the building.




National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), “Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 – Draft for Public Comment,” Washington, DC. August 2008. Chapter 3 p.41. http://wtc.nist.gov/media/NIST_NCSTAR_1A_for_public_comment.pdf

[ii] NIST WTC 7 Technical Briefing, August 26, 2008. http://911speakout.org/NIST_Tech_Briefing_Transcript.pdf Transcript p.16

[iii] Ibid.

[iv] Quoted by David Ray Griffin, “The Mysterious Collapse of WTC 7: Why NIST’s Final 9/11 Report is Unscientific and False,” GlobalResearch.ca, September 14, 2009. The Mysterious Collapse of WTC Seven

[v] NIST NCSTAR 1A, “Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7,” Washington, DC. November 2008. p.45 NIST and the World Trade Center

[vi] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw&feature=related[/ame]

Independent researchers have discovered a highly engineered explosive-incendiary material in several dust samples collected near the WTC site. In their paper, entitled Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, nine researchers, led by chemist Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen, conclude:

“[T]he red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.”

REFERENCES

Harrit, Farrer, Jones, Ryan, Legge, Farnsworth, Roberts, Gourley, Larsen, “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe,” Bentham Open Access, 2009. http://buildingwhat.org/downloads/Full_Thermite_paper.pdf

yawn...nobody cares. Nobody has cared for quite a while CD.

The fact that nobody is suffering from thermite poisoning proves it wasn't there; just like the fact that nobody was hit by falling melted steel proves it wasn't there. Just like the fact that you can't wire 3 occupied buildings for demolition proves the bombs weren't there.

 

[SFC Ollie]

There were no explosions that could be misconstrued as being that of a controlled demolition.

 

[PhysicsExist]

There were no explosions that could be misconstrued as being that of a controlled demolition.

The fact that nobody is suffering from thermite poisoning proves it wasn't there; just like the fact that nobody was hit by falling melted steel proves it wasn't there. Just like the fact that you can't wire 3 occupied buildings for demolition proves the bombs weren't there.

Disgusting.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU[/ame]

 

[PixieStix]

 

[elvis]

and I survived it....

 

[PhysicsExist]

There were no explosions that could be misconstrued as being that of a controlled demolition.

The fact that nobody is suffering from thermite poisoning proves it wasn't there; just like the fact that nobody was hit by falling melted steel proves it wasn't there. Just like the fact that you can't wire 3 occupied buildings for demolition proves the bombs weren't there.

Disgusting.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU[/ame]

Disrespecting the Facts with your own opinion.

 

[PixieStix]

and I survived it....

Irrefutable proof that you live

 

[SFC Ollie]

Wait a minute, you mean Elvis planted the explosives?

 

[candycorn]

There were no explosions that could be misconstrued as being that of a controlled demolition.

The fact that nobody is suffering from thermite poisoning proves it wasn't there; just like the fact that nobody was hit by falling melted steel proves it wasn't there. Just like the fact that you can't wire 3 occupied buildings for demolition proves the bombs weren't there.

Disgusting.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU[/ame]

Yes you are disgusting. Tell us something we don't know. In fact, please explain to us how you wire 3 buildings for demolition with nobody noticing fuckwad?

 

[DiveCon]

There were no explosions that could be misconstrued as being that of a controlled demolition.

The fact that nobody is suffering from thermite poisoning proves it wasn't there; just like the fact that nobody was hit by falling melted steel proves it wasn't there. Just like the fact that you can't wire 3 occupied buildings for demolition proves the bombs weren't there.

Disgusting.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU[/ame]

Disrespecting the Facts with your own opinion.

what YOU call facts, are not

 

[PhysicsExist]

This is a controlled Demolition:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQFmjYPXt1g&feature=related[/ame]

The 2.25 seconds of freefall proves it.

 

[SFC Ollie]

This is a controlled Demolition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQFmjYPXt1g&feature=related

The 2.25 seconds of freefall proves it.

What exactly fell at freefall? We do know that something happened inside the building before the facade fell; remember the penthouse sort of disappeared, How much internal damage was done before your 2 seconds?

Don't bother answering, because we know that you haven't a clue.

 

[DiveCon]

This is a controlled Demolition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQFmjYPXt1g&feature=related

The 2.25 seconds of freefall proves it.

wrong, again

 

[PixieStix]

Wait a minute, you mean Elvis planted the explosives?

Yes A hunka burnin love, sorry I could not resist

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bxxIvPZwG4[/ame]