Christian couple charged with murder after baby dies of starvation

[koshergrl]

Sorry, judging is not counter to Christianity. How are we to ascertain the brethren if we don't judge? What does judging have to do with "lack of faith". I mean there is judging to condemn and there is judging RIGHTLY.

**BTW, this is what Jesus meant when He said, "Judge not, lest ye be judged. For by the measure you use..." That means, don't judge to condemn or you will be judged for condemnation.

Have you read or studied any Scripture since your childhood?

has it changed since then?

No but you have.

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

Oh, I'm sorry. Are we just supposed to sit there and let you spew retarded nonsense when it's obvious you don't know what the hell you're talking about?

If you don't want to talk about it, then don't bring it up.

Problem solved.

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss it, I encourage you to crack the Book you get a kick out of misquoting. Just so you don't always look stupid.

 

[koshergrl]

I love it when Bode socks all gather to chit chat with each other.

Oh cool. Am I one of the socks?

Most likely.

 

[iceberg]

has it changed since then?

No but you have.

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

 

[2aguy]

Parents who refused to get medical help for baby girl before she died face life in jail

Parents dont always know best.

Fusari burst into tears when the couple, from Michigan, were formally charged, while Welch stared straight ahead open-mouthed.

Welch has previously posted videos and comments about not trusting doctors on Facebook, citing his religious beliefs as more than enough.

In one post, he described doctors as "priesthoods of the medical cult."

In another, he ranted: "The righteous shall live by faith. It's God who is sovereign over disease and those sorts of things and, of course, ultimately deaths."

We can all have a good laugh at the conspiracy theory industry but ultimately this is where it leads to.

These idiots were anti vaxers as well.

I am not sure prison is best for them. I cant imagine a worse punishment than losing your child. But their tw other children should be removed from them and never returned.

How is their christianity to blame? I don't exactly remember where Jesus said..." Amen, I say to thee....starve your children to death...."

 

[Confounding]

I love it when Bode socks all gather to chit chat with each other.

Oh cool. Am I one of the socks?

Most likely.

 

[iceberg]

has it changed since then?

No but you have.

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

If you don't want to talk about it, then don't bring it up.

Problem solved.

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss it, I encourage you to crack the Book you get a kick out of misquoting. Just so you don't always look stupid.

i dove into a public conversation to see if i wanted to continue on. based on the fucked up shit you want to bring to the table, i choose to leave. if that shoves your panties up your ass that's your problem.

next time you talk to me go commando and maybe we won't argue as much.

 

[koshergrl]

No but you have.

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

Yeah because you couldn't handle reading the bible.
Which is your choice. Just kindly don't misquote the bible then whine because people tell you you're misquoting it.

 

[iceberg]

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

Yeah because you couldn't handle reading the bible.
Which is your choice. Just kindly don't misquote the bible then whine because people tell you you're misquoting it.

yea, that must be it.

have a good life.

 

[koshergrl]

No but you have.

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

If you don't want to talk about it, then don't bring it up.

Problem solved.

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss it, I encourage you to crack the Book you get a kick out of misquoting. Just so you don't always look stupid.

i dove into a public conversation to see if i wanted to continue on. based on the fucked up shit you want to bring to the table, i choose to leave. if that shoves your panties up your ass that's your problem.

next time you talk to me go commando and maybe we won't argue as much.

Every single time you misquote the bible you're going to be set straight.

And probably every time that happens, you'll cry like the little girl you obviously are.

 

[Confounding]

No but you have.

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

My grandmother is like that. She became a little too open minded in her old age and left the Catholic church.

 

[koshergrl]

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

Yeah because you couldn't handle reading the bible.
Which is your choice. Just kindly don't misquote the bible then whine because people tell you you're misquoting it.

yea, that must be it.

have a good life.

That's obviously it.
Enjoy your new best friends, the leftist, anti-Christian ignorami.

You're in fine company.

 

[Confounding]

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

If you don't want to talk about it, then don't bring it up.

Problem solved.

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss it, I encourage you to crack the Book you get a kick out of misquoting. Just so you don't always look stupid.

i dove into a public conversation to see if i wanted to continue on. based on the fucked up shit you want to bring to the table, i choose to leave. if that shoves your panties up your ass that's your problem.

next time you talk to me go commando and maybe we won't argue as much.

Every single time you misquote the bible you're going to be set straight.

And probably every time that happens, you'll cry like the little girl you obviously are.

People like you are why your religion is dying.

 

[iceberg]

well aware of the question - i just avoid religious beatings when it comes to people telling me how i should feel or why. i'm fully aware of how you can interpret the scriptures as you grow and things change around you. but that applies to everything i can read - shakespeare doesn't mean today what it meant in high school.

not much does.

but as my good friend jon butcher once said, "you must be confused if you're preaching to me".

at this point i politely bow out.

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

My grandmother is like that. She became a little too open minded in her old ways and left the Catholic church.

yep. i was born and raised roman catholic. alter boy, ccd classes, summer camps, reading scriptures to the congregations...but i never get to serious about religious conversations anymore until i know the company i am in. you find out quick if you're in for a good exchange of ideas, or if someone just wants to bitch and call you out.

got no use for the second option in religion or politics anymore.

 

[iceberg]

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

Yeah because you couldn't handle reading the bible.
Which is your choice. Just kindly don't misquote the bible then whine because people tell you you're misquoting it.

yea, that must be it.

have a good life.

That's obviously it.
Enjoy your new best friends, the leftist, anti-Christian ignorami.

You're in fine company.

you got issues.

 

[koshergrl]

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

If you don't want to talk about it, then don't bring it up.

Problem solved.

Meanwhile, if you want to discuss it, I encourage you to crack the Book you get a kick out of misquoting. Just so you don't always look stupid.

i dove into a public conversation to see if i wanted to continue on. based on the fucked up shit you want to bring to the table, i choose to leave. if that shoves your panties up your ass that's your problem.

next time you talk to me go commando and maybe we won't argue as much.

Every single time you misquote the bible you're going to be set straight.

And probably every time that happens, you'll cry like the little girl you obviously are.

People like you are why your religion is dying.

Yeah, you're bode alright lolol.

And my religion isn't dying at all.

 

[koshergrl]

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

Yeah because you couldn't handle reading the bible.
Which is your choice. Just kindly don't misquote the bible then whine because people tell you you're misquoting it.

yea, that must be it.

have a good life.

That's obviously it.
Enjoy your new best friends, the leftist, anti-Christian ignorami.

You're in fine company.

you got issues.

Says the person who cries because people notice he doesn't know the bible he misquotes.

 

[iceberg]

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

Yeah because you couldn't handle reading the bible.
Which is your choice. Just kindly don't misquote the bible then whine because people tell you you're misquoting it.

yea, that must be it.

have a good life.

That's obviously it.
Enjoy your new best friends, the leftist, anti-Christian ignorami.

You're in fine company.

you got issues.

Says the person who cries because people notice he doesn't know the bible he misquotes.

yep. i'm pretty fucked up. happy?

but at least that means i can recognize it pretty quick. anyway - this has zero to do with the thread so get another insult in and win the internet for today. i got things to do.

 

[Confounding]

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

My grandmother is like that. She became a little too open minded in her old ways and left the Catholic church.

yep. i was born and raised roman catholic. alter boy, ccd classes, summer camps, reading scriptures to the congregations...but i never get to serious about religious conversations anymore until i know the company i am in. you find out quick if you're in for a good exchange of ideas, or if someone just wants to bitch and call you out.

got no use for the second option in religion or politics anymore.

The aggression is a sign of insecurity I think.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Christianity-based American culture

That's such an odd phrase. What does that mean?

 

[koshergrl]

Nobody is preaching to you, you pretentious fool. You are misquoting the bible. I think you brought it up. If you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to set you straight, get the fuck over it.

And if you're going to misquote the bible, people are going to ask you how familiar with it you are. And obviously, you aren't familiar with it at all.

and maybe shit like this is why i don't talk religion with some people. talk about dropping judgements.

again - when i find people who can talk about this openly, i'll be glad to join in. when i see the devote religious correct me, i leave. as far as i know all of religion is personal and subject to our own interpretation in relation as to how it fits our own lives. since you're the one who had to be captain obvious and tell me i've changed, then that would mean how we interpret the bible changes in accordance again with our own experiences. to say one is right and one is wrong is to pretend you've had my experiences.

pretty sure you have not.

have a day.

She seems especially hostile towards you. I wonder if it's because you were religious before and then found your own path. Traitor!

there's religious where you follow the books and teachings. i stopped doing that.
there's spiritual where you take what you've learned and have that guide you to be the best person you can be based on these teachings as you go through life and its ever changing scenarios.

i chose door #2.

My grandmother is like that. She became a little too open minded in her old ways and left the Catholic church.

yep. i was born and raised roman catholic. alter boy, ccd classes, summer camps, reading scriptures to the congregations...but i never get to serious about religious conversations anymore until i know the company i am in. you find out quick if you're in for a good exchange of ideas, or if someone just wants to bitch and call you out.

got no use for the second option in religion or politics anymore.

AltAr boy, you imbecile.