Church goers must take their firearms with them to Church

So you finally admit that the problem is criminals and not guns in the hands of people who aren't criminals?

So what do you propose to do to keep criminals from shooting people?

And taking guns away from law abiding people isn't an acceptable answer

We do what every other country does. Mass shootings are not acceptable. Unjustified police shootings are not acceptable. Cops being killed every week is not acceptable...

So we say it's not acceptable

What do you propose we DO?
Again, what other countries have done. Israel has effective gun laws.
I love gun control in Israel!
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Good.

Israeli gun laws are much stricter than some U.S. gun advocates suggest
Well, since every 18 year old Israeli is REQUIRED TO LEARN HOW TO SHOOT WEAPONS, then I am all for compliance!
Make every American 18 year old learn to how to fire weapons!

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My church typically has more than one person carrying as well as first aid equipment for gunshots.
Leftists and Islamos have made worship in America a dangerous practice.



We got a defibrillator. Shame anyone feels a need to pack heat in their holy places.
Every mass shooting is stopped by only one thing - another person with a gun. You'd have to be an idiot to ban guns in a public place, especially a church. We have AED and gunshot first aid kit. For any victims. The shooter can wait for the paramedics.
 
We do what every other country does. Mass shootings are not acceptable. Unjustified police shootings are not acceptable. Cops being killed every week is not acceptable...

So we say it's not acceptable

What do you propose we DO?
Again, what other countries have done. Israel has effective gun laws.
I love gun control in Israel!
View attachment 151440View attachment 151441
View attachment 151442View attachment 151443

Good.

Israeli gun laws are much stricter than some U.S. gun advocates suggest
Well, since every 18 year old Israeli is REQUIRED TO LEARN HOW TO SHOOT WEAPONS, then I am all for compliance!
Make every American 18 year old learn to how to fire weapons!

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Great
From the link
Israel limits gun ownership to security workers, people who transport valuables or explosives, residents of the West Bank, and hunters. People who don't fall into one of those categories cannot obtain a firearm permit. Moreover, Israel rejects 40 percent of firearm permit applicants, the highest rejection rate in the Western world. Both Switzerland and Israel require yearly (or more frequent) permit renewals to insure that the reasons are still applicable.
 
That's the typical shallow thought process of leftists. Not a hint of concern about the person willing to murder another, it's inanimate objects that concern them.

You don't seem have any concern for all the dead.

You assume that if someone didn't have a gun the murder wouldn't occur.

Well we don't see mass shootings constantly in other civilized countries. Police aren't shooting people regularly either. And their police aren't constantly being gunned down.

REALLY?

Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77
Australia, Port Arthur (1996) 35
Brazil (1997) 17
Scotland, Dunblane (1996) 17
Germany, Erfurt (2002) 16
England, Hungerford (1987) 16
Germany, Winnenden (2009) 15
Switzerland, Zug (2001) 14
New Zealand, Aramoana (1990) 13
France, Toulon (1995) 13
Azerbaijan, Baku (2009) 12
Finland, Kauhajok (2008) 10
Canada, Montreal (1989) 9
France, Nanterre (2002) 8
Finland, Tuusula (2007) 8
Japan, Osaka (2001) 8

Do some research


Australia's Gun Laws May Have Stopped Mass Shootings, Study Finds
LOL, You are relying on an NBC News story!
Why not the NY Times or WAPO.
All very leftist rags.
 
My church typically has more than one person carrying as well as first aid equipment for gunshots.
Leftists and Islamos have made worship in America a dangerous practice.



We got a defibrillator. Shame anyone feels a need to pack heat in their holy places.
Every mass shooting is stopped by only one thing - another person with a gun. You'd have to be an idiot to ban guns in a public place, especially a church. We have AED and gunshot first aid kit. For any victims. The shooter can wait for the paramedics.

Not remotely true.
 
You don't seem have any concern for all the dead.

You assume that if someone didn't have a gun the murder wouldn't occur.

Well we don't see mass shootings constantly in other civilized countries. Police aren't shooting people regularly either. And their police aren't constantly being gunned down.

REALLY?

Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77
Australia, Port Arthur (1996) 35
Brazil (1997) 17
Scotland, Dunblane (1996) 17
Germany, Erfurt (2002) 16
England, Hungerford (1987) 16
Germany, Winnenden (2009) 15
Switzerland, Zug (2001) 14
New Zealand, Aramoana (1990) 13
France, Toulon (1995) 13
Azerbaijan, Baku (2009) 12
Finland, Kauhajok (2008) 10
Canada, Montreal (1989) 9
France, Nanterre (2002) 8
Finland, Tuusula (2007) 8
Japan, Osaka (2001) 8

Do some research


Australia's Gun Laws May Have Stopped Mass Shootings, Study Finds
LOL, You are relying on an NBC News story!
Why not the NY Times or WAPO.
All very leftist rags.
Post all the Australia mass shootings this year. We will compare to US.
 
My church typically has more than one person carrying as well as first aid equipment for gunshots.
Leftists and Islamos have made worship in America a dangerous practice.



We got a defibrillator. Shame anyone feels a need to pack heat in their holy places.
Every mass shooting is stopped by only one thing - another person with a gun. You'd have to be an idiot to ban guns in a public place, especially a church. We have AED and gunshot first aid kit. For any victims. The shooter can wait for the paramedics.

Not remotely true.
Give me one mass shooting not stopped by a person with a gun and I will show you 5 that were.
 
That's the typical shallow thought process of leftists. Not a hint of concern about the person willing to murder another, it's inanimate objects that concern them.

You don't seem have any concern for all the dead.

You assume that if someone didn't have a gun the murder wouldn't occur.

Well we don't see mass shootings constantly in other civilized countries. Police aren't shooting people regularly either. And their police aren't constantly being gunned down.

REALLY?

Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77
Australia, Port Arthur (1996) 35
Brazil (1997) 17
Scotland, Dunblane (1996) 17
Germany, Erfurt (2002) 16
England, Hungerford (1987) 16
Germany, Winnenden (2009) 15
Switzerland, Zug (2001) 14
New Zealand, Aramoana (1990) 13
France, Toulon (1995) 13
Azerbaijan, Baku (2009) 12
Finland, Kauhajok (2008) 10
Canada, Montreal (1989) 9
France, Nanterre (2002) 8
Finland, Tuusula (2007) 8
Japan, Osaka (2001) 8

Do some research
That is many countries over the course of many years. We have them regularly in this one country. We wish there were years between them. Name once country that is even close.

Many of them have the strictest gun laws in the world and have for a long time. With such laws in place in those countries, how can anything like that happen at all?
 
Well, since every 18 year old Israeli is REQUIRED TO LEARN HOW TO SHOOT WEAPONS, then I am all for compliance!
Make every American 18 year old learn to how to fire weapons!

View attachment 151444
Great
From the link
Israel limits gun ownership to security workers, people who transport valuables or explosives, residents of the West Bank, and hunters. People who don't fall into one of those categories cannot obtain a firearm permit. Moreover, Israel rejects 40 percent of firearm permit applicants, the highest rejection rate in the Western world. Both Switzerland and Israel require yearly (or more frequent) permit renewals to insure that the reasons are still applicable.
Ah yes, Switzerland! Where every citizen 18-55 is REQUIRED to maintain a fully automatic weapon at home!
 
That's the typical shallow thought process of leftists. Not a hint of concern about the person willing to murder another, it's inanimate objects that concern them.

You don't seem have any concern for all the dead.

You assume that if someone didn't have a gun the murder wouldn't occur.

Well we don't see mass shootings constantly in other civilized countries. Police aren't shooting people regularly either. And their police aren't constantly being gunned down.

REALLY?

Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77
Australia, Port Arthur (1996) 35
Brazil (1997) 17
Scotland, Dunblane (1996) 17
Germany, Erfurt (2002) 16
England, Hungerford (1987) 16
Germany, Winnenden (2009) 15
Switzerland, Zug (2001) 14
New Zealand, Aramoana (1990) 13
France, Toulon (1995) 13
Azerbaijan, Baku (2009) 12
Finland, Kauhajok (2008) 10
Canada, Montreal (1989) 9
France, Nanterre (2002) 8
Finland, Tuusula (2007) 8
Japan, Osaka (2001) 8

Do some research
That is many countries over the course of many years. We have them regularly in this one country. We wish there were years between them. Name once country that is even close.
Screenshot-6_18_2015-9_43_12-PM.jpg
 
You assume that if someone didn't have a gun the murder wouldn't occur.

Well we don't see mass shootings constantly in other civilized countries. Police aren't shooting people regularly either. And their police aren't constantly being gunned down.

REALLY?

Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77
Australia, Port Arthur (1996) 35
Brazil (1997) 17
Scotland, Dunblane (1996) 17
Germany, Erfurt (2002) 16
England, Hungerford (1987) 16
Germany, Winnenden (2009) 15
Switzerland, Zug (2001) 14
New Zealand, Aramoana (1990) 13
France, Toulon (1995) 13
Azerbaijan, Baku (2009) 12
Finland, Kauhajok (2008) 10
Canada, Montreal (1989) 9
France, Nanterre (2002) 8
Finland, Tuusula (2007) 8
Japan, Osaka (2001) 8

Do some research


Australia's Gun Laws May Have Stopped Mass Shootings, Study Finds
LOL, You are relying on an NBC News story!
Why not the NY Times or WAPO.
All very leftist rags.
Post all the Australia mass shootings this year. We will compare to US.

With the strict laws Australia has, there shouldn't be any gun murders.

Sounds to me like you should move to (fill in the blank) if you like how they do things.
 
Well, since every 18 year old Israeli is REQUIRED TO LEARN HOW TO SHOOT WEAPONS, then I am all for compliance!
Make every American 18 year old learn to how to fire weapons!

View attachment 151444
Great
From the link
Israel limits gun ownership to security workers, people who transport valuables or explosives, residents of the West Bank, and hunters. People who don't fall into one of those categories cannot obtain a firearm permit. Moreover, Israel rejects 40 percent of firearm permit applicants, the highest rejection rate in the Western world. Both Switzerland and Israel require yearly (or more frequent) permit renewals to insure that the reasons are still applicable.
Ah yes, Switzerland! Where every citizen 18-55 is REQUIRED to maintain a fully automatic weapon at home!

They have less than 1 per 100,000 when it comes to murder rate.
 
You don't seem have any concern for all the dead.

You assume that if someone didn't have a gun the murder wouldn't occur.

Well we don't see mass shootings constantly in other civilized countries. Police aren't shooting people regularly either. And their police aren't constantly being gunned down.

REALLY?

Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77
Australia, Port Arthur (1996) 35
Brazil (1997) 17
Scotland, Dunblane (1996) 17
Germany, Erfurt (2002) 16
England, Hungerford (1987) 16
Germany, Winnenden (2009) 15
Switzerland, Zug (2001) 14
New Zealand, Aramoana (1990) 13
France, Toulon (1995) 13
Azerbaijan, Baku (2009) 12
Finland, Kauhajok (2008) 10
Canada, Montreal (1989) 9
France, Nanterre (2002) 8
Finland, Tuusula (2007) 8
Japan, Osaka (2001) 8

Do some research
That is many countries over the course of many years. We have them regularly in this one country. We wish there were years between them. Name once country that is even close.
Screenshot-6_18_2015-9_43_12-PM.jpg

Looks like more guns leads to more shootings.
 
You assume that if someone didn't have a gun the murder wouldn't occur.

Well we don't see mass shootings constantly in other civilized countries. Police aren't shooting people regularly either. And their police aren't constantly being gunned down.

REALLY?

Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77
Australia, Port Arthur (1996) 35
Brazil (1997) 17
Scotland, Dunblane (1996) 17
Germany, Erfurt (2002) 16
England, Hungerford (1987) 16
Germany, Winnenden (2009) 15
Switzerland, Zug (2001) 14
New Zealand, Aramoana (1990) 13
France, Toulon (1995) 13
Azerbaijan, Baku (2009) 12
Finland, Kauhajok (2008) 10
Canada, Montreal (1989) 9
France, Nanterre (2002) 8
Finland, Tuusula (2007) 8
Japan, Osaka (2001) 8

Do some research
That is many countries over the course of many years. We have them regularly in this one country. We wish there were years between them. Name once country that is even close.
Screenshot-6_18_2015-9_43_12-PM.jpg

Looks like more guns leads to more shootings.
Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77

Shame Norway is gun free.
 

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