CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack

[swizzlee]

There have been only two events that could be said to have caused significant movement by voters in the campaign. One was the Oct. 3 Denver debate in which Mitt Romney disinterred political skills that stunned the incumbent and woke up a sleeping electorate. Race on.

Vehicle inside the U.S. Consulate compound in Benghazi, Libya, Sept. 11.

The other is Benghazi. The damage done to the Obama campaign by the Sept. 11 death in Benghazi of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three American colleagues has been more gradual than the sensation of the Denver debate, but its effect may have been deeper.

The incumbent president has a credibility gap.

Henninger: Suddenly, A Credibility Gap - WSJ.com

Not suddenly!

It's been an ongoing thing, building momentum, growing more certain every day but nothing that would anticipate this level of despicability.

 

[Clementine]

Ed doesn't really want to defend the Obama Administration's handling of Bengazi because it's so gawd awful bad that it can't BE defended. Instead he'll do what progressives here always do...try to make it about something else and have it be someone else's fault.

That pretty well sums it up. They know it's a bad situation and should never have happened. They forgive him no matter what, then cover for him and ridicule others for being angry.

We should have seen this coming. Hillary warned about the 3:00 a.m. phone call.

 

[daveman]

When a society determines the appropriate action is war or taking of a life or lives, it is considered moral. When a subgroup of a religion or culture decides to kill it is just that. Since Ed has brought the discussion down to this level, it is safe to assume he has already given up on suggesting the President was justified in his lack of response and complete responsibility for said response.

It all makes sense when you look at the basis of Ed's belief system:

"My Lord Obama is a Perfect Being. He can do no wrong."

 

[Missourian]

Charles Woods, father of Tyrone Woods will be interviewed tonight @ 9 pm et by Jeanine Pirro on Fox News Channel.

 

[edthecynic]

Benghazi - Denied 3 Request For Help During Attack

pretty much everything in that video is known to be a lie. There was no order to stand down, There was no live feed to the White House, Woods and Doherty were killed on the Annex roof, not at compound C where Stevens was.

Ambassador Died in Smoke While Agents Searched for Him - Bloomberg

The attackers immediately set fire to the building known as the barracks, which housed the compound’s Libyan guards. Then they penetrated the building where Stevens was staying during a visit to Benghazi from Tripoli, the Libyan capital. It contained a protected “safe haven” walled off by a metal grill with locks, the officials said.

Safe Haven

The attackers looked through the grill and saw nothing. They couldn’t break the locks to enter the safe haven, and though no one got in, a security agent with Stevens was prepared to shoot anyone who did.
Instead, the attackers poured diesel fuel in and around the building and set it on fire, according to the two officials.
Stevens was trapped in the burning building as it quickly filled with smoke. By the time the intruders left, the officials said, it was difficult to see or breathe. The ambassador, along with Sean Smith, a foreign-service information officer, and the security agent moved to a bathroom with a window in an attempt to get air.
The three men were on the bathroom floor, desperate for air, when they decided they needed to leave the building. The security agent later told State Department officials that he wasn’t able to see three feet in front of him.
With dozens of armed attackers still at the compound, the agent led Stevens and Smith to a bedroom that had a window exit as more shooting and explosions could be heard outside and tracer bullets pierced the night.

Missing Persons

The agent, barely able to breathe, escaped through the bedroom window, only to discover that Stevens and Smith were no longer with him.
The agent re-entered the building several times in an attempt to find the two men. He never did. He finally staggered up a ladder to the roof, where he radioed other security agents for help, though he could barely speak, the two officials said.
The other agents, scattered at two different structures in the compound, drove to the ambassador’s building in an armored vehicle and made repeated attempts to feel their way through the smoke and fire to find Stevens and Smith.
When they found Smith, the information officer was dead. The ambassador was still missing.
Security at the compound consisted of five diplomatic security special agents and four Libyans who were members of the Feb. 17 Brigades, a militia assisting the Libyan government, the two officials said.

Reinforcements Arrive

Then a so-called quick reaction security team, housed in an annex about 1.2 miles (1.9 kilometers) from the compound, arrived.
As the additional agents tried to secure the building’s perimeter, they also made repeated attempts to find Stevens. One agent took off his shirt, dipped it into the compound’s swimming pool, and put it back on before heading into the smoke-filled building, the two officials said.
Fearing for their safety, the agents decided they had to evacuate the compound and get to the annex. They piled into the armored vehicle with Smith’s corpse and made their way out the main gate, the two officials said.
With traffic clogging the road, the vehicle was going about 15 miles an hour when a group of men met them and signaled for them to turn. The armored vehicle then was attacked with AK-47 rifle fire and hand grenades. The vehicle kept rolling with two flat tires.

Firing Positions

It eventually reached the annex, where agents took up firing positions on the roof. The annex then took intermittent fire from AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades for several hours, the officials said.
Reinforcements from Tripoli, some 400 miles away, who had been called when the attack began, then arrived and made their way to the annex.
At about 4 a.m., the two officials said, the annex took mortar fire. Some rounds landed on the roof, killing two agents and severely wounding another. Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, two former Navy SEALs working as security personnel, were the other Americans killed in Benghazi.
The remaining agents then decided to evacuate the annex and made their way to the Benghazi airport, where they were evacuated on two flights.

 

[Plasmaball]

Because knives and bayonets are a last resort, just like they always were.

But technology hasn done anything.....the bayonet reigns supreme!

Funny, I don't recall saying that. What I said, and am willing to defend, is that, ultimately, it comes down to boots on the ground. Go find a soldier who is actually in battle that doesn't carry a knife. Or, better yet, go find any soldier that does carry a knife and tell him he doesn't need it.

oh yeah you said it....

 

[Plasmaball]

It's up to you to prove your leftist fantasy is fact.

Good luck with that.

Meanwhile, you retard, no one died because a CIA analyst was outed by the State Department.

But you just keep pretending that's more important that the current Administration denying repeated requests for assistance from diplomatic personnel under attack...when the Administration WATCHED THE ATTACK HAPPENING.

You can eat all of Obama's shit you like. Just don't expect me to believe you when you tell me it's yummy.

Oo I bet you have super inside secret sources like fox has huh!

Lol....you don't know shit.

I know that Obama gave the order to not let help be deployed to Americans under attack.

You just keep whining like a little pussy about Plame, as if that makes Benghazi go away.

Bootlicker retard.

really? you have evidence Obama said no? Please link that up for me to read.

Keep trying to make the attack a issue larger than it is. You will fail like usual.

 

[daveman]

Oo I bet you have super inside secret sources like fox has huh!

Lol....you don't know shit.

I know that Obama gave the order to not let help be deployed to Americans under attack.

You just keep whining like a little pussy about Plame, as if that makes Benghazi go away.

Bootlicker retard.

really? you have evidence Obama said no? Please link that up for me to read.

Keep trying to make the attack a issue larger than it is. You will fail like usual.

Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus | The Weekly Standard

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?​

No one else had the authority.

But you just keep insisting your little tin god is perfect. Bootlicker retard.

 

[idb]

I know that Obama gave the order to not let help be deployed to Americans under attack.

You just keep whining like a little pussy about Plame, as if that makes Benghazi go away.

Bootlicker retard.

really? you have evidence Obama said no? Please link that up for me to read.

Keep trying to make the attack a issue larger than it is. You will fail like usual.

Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus | The Weekly Standard

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?​

No one else had the authority.

But you just keep insisting your little tin god is perfect. Bootlicker retard.

An opinion piece isn't authoritative.

 

[edthecynic]

Benghazi - Denied 3 Request For Help During Attack

pretty much everything in that video is known to be a lie. There was no order to stand down, There was no live feed to the White House, Woods and Doherty were killed on the Annex roof, not at compound C where Stevens was.

Ambassador Died in Smoke While Agents Searched for Him - Bloomberg

The attackers immediately set fire to the building known as the barracks, which housed the compound’s Libyan guards. Then they penetrated the building where Stevens was staying during a visit to Benghazi from Tripoli, the Libyan capital. It contained a protected “safe haven” walled off by a metal grill with locks, the officials said.

Safe Haven

The attackers looked through the grill and saw nothing. They couldn’t break the locks to enter the safe haven, and though no one got in, a security agent with Stevens was prepared to shoot anyone who did.
Instead, the attackers poured diesel fuel in and around the building and set it on fire, according to the two officials.
Stevens was trapped in the burning building as it quickly filled with smoke. By the time the intruders left, the officials said, it was difficult to see or breathe. The ambassador, along with Sean Smith, a foreign-service information officer, and the security agent moved to a bathroom with a window in an attempt to get air.
The three men were on the bathroom floor, desperate for air, when they decided they needed to leave the building. The security agent later told State Department officials that he wasn’t able to see three feet in front of him.
With dozens of armed attackers still at the compound, the agent led Stevens and Smith to a bedroom that had a window exit as more shooting and explosions could be heard outside and tracer bullets pierced the night.

Missing Persons

The agent, barely able to breathe, escaped through the bedroom window, only to discover that Stevens and Smith were no longer with him.
The agent re-entered the building several times in an attempt to find the two men. He never did. He finally staggered up a ladder to the roof, where he radioed other security agents for help, though he could barely speak, the two officials said.
The other agents, scattered at two different structures in the compound, drove to the ambassador’s building in an armored vehicle and made repeated attempts to feel their way through the smoke and fire to find Stevens and Smith.
When they found Smith, the information officer was dead. The ambassador was still missing.
Security at the compound consisted of five diplomatic security special agents and four Libyans who were members of the Feb. 17 Brigades, a militia assisting the Libyan government, the two officials said.

Reinforcements Arrive

Then a so-called quick reaction security team, housed in an annex about 1.2 miles (1.9 kilometers) from the compound, arrived.
As the additional agents tried to secure the building’s perimeter, they also made repeated attempts to find Stevens. One agent took off his shirt, dipped it into the compound’s swimming pool, and put it back on before heading into the smoke-filled building, the two officials said.
Fearing for their safety, the agents decided they had to evacuate the compound and get to the annex. They piled into the armored vehicle with Smith’s corpse and made their way out the main gate, the two officials said.
With traffic clogging the road, the vehicle was going about 15 miles an hour when a group of men met them and signaled for them to turn. The armored vehicle then was attacked with AK-47 rifle fire and hand grenades. The vehicle kept rolling with two flat tires.

Firing Positions

It eventually reached the annex, where agents took up firing positions on the roof. The annex then took intermittent fire from AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades for several hours, the officials said.
Reinforcements from Tripoli, some 400 miles away, who had been called when the attack began, then arrived and made their way to the annex.
At about 4 a.m., the two officials said, the annex took mortar fire. Some rounds landed on the roof, killing two agents and severely wounding another. Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, two former Navy SEALs working as security personnel, were the other Americans killed in Benghazi.
The remaining agents then decided to evacuate the annex and made their way to the Benghazi airport, where they were evacuated on two flights.

I know that Obama gave the order to not let help be deployed to Americans under attack.

You just keep whining like a little pussy about Plame, as if that makes Benghazi go away.

Bootlicker retard.

really? you have evidence Obama said no? Please link that up for me to read.

Keep trying to make the attack a issue larger than it is. You will fail like usual.

Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus | The Weekly Standard

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?​

No one else had the authority.

But you just keep insisting your little tin god is perfect. Bootlicker retard.

You gotta love how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood continue to lie when their previous lie is shot down. After being exposed as liars when FOX said the CIA told the agents in Libya to stand down, rather than admit that the agents were not told to stand down, the pathological liars simply accuse others of doing what was never done. As the earlier post shows reinforcements were sent in rather than told to stand down.

 

[mex]

You gotta love how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood continue to lie when their previous lie is shot down. After being exposed as liars when FOX said the CIA told the agents in Libya to stand down, rather than admit that the agents were not told to stand down, the pathological liars simply accuse others of doing what was never done. As the earlier post shows reinforcements were sent in rather than told to stand down.

your little story from bloomberg contradicts sworn testimony from the hearing.

nice try, but why o why did they continue to say it was a protest... about a movie nobody ever heard of let alone ever saw.

They continued the LIES and the COVERUP for two more weeks.

That's what this is about.

The truth will soon come out in spite of the chrissy matthews lamestream.

 

[Plasmaball]

I know that Obama gave the order to not let help be deployed to Americans under attack.

You just keep whining like a little pussy about Plame, as if that makes Benghazi go away.

Bootlicker retard.

really? you have evidence Obama said no? Please link that up for me to read.

Keep trying to make the attack a issue larger than it is. You will fail like usual.

Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus | The Weekly Standard

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?​

No one else had the authority.

But you just keep insisting your little tin god is perfect. Bootlicker retard.

Ah so you are going with the Speculation That William decided to opinionate.
You actually have zero evidence. The General never tossed Obama under the bus, but hey when you are a hack you are a hack.

I like how you think saying bootlicker makes you a tough guy or something.....

 

[Oldstyle]

Benghazi - Denied 3 Request For Help During Attack

pretty much everything in that video is known to be a lie. There was no order to stand down, There was no live feed to the White House, Woods and Doherty were killed on the Annex roof, not at compound C where Stevens was.

Ambassador Died in Smoke While Agents Searched for Him - Bloomberg

The attackers immediately set fire to the building known as the barracks, which housed the compound’s Libyan guards. Then they penetrated the building where Stevens was staying during a visit to Benghazi from Tripoli, the Libyan capital. It contained a protected “safe haven” walled off by a metal grill with locks, the officials said.

Safe Haven

The attackers looked through the grill and saw nothing. They couldn’t break the locks to enter the safe haven, and though no one got in, a security agent with Stevens was prepared to shoot anyone who did.
Instead, the attackers poured diesel fuel in and around the building and set it on fire, according to the two officials.
Stevens was trapped in the burning building as it quickly filled with smoke. By the time the intruders left, the officials said, it was difficult to see or breathe. The ambassador, along with Sean Smith, a foreign-service information officer, and the security agent moved to a bathroom with a window in an attempt to get air.
The three men were on the bathroom floor, desperate for air, when they decided they needed to leave the building. The security agent later told State Department officials that he wasn’t able to see three feet in front of him.
With dozens of armed attackers still at the compound, the agent led Stevens and Smith to a bedroom that had a window exit as more shooting and explosions could be heard outside and tracer bullets pierced the night.

Missing Persons

The agent, barely able to breathe, escaped through the bedroom window, only to discover that Stevens and Smith were no longer with him.
The agent re-entered the building several times in an attempt to find the two men. He never did. He finally staggered up a ladder to the roof, where he radioed other security agents for help, though he could barely speak, the two officials said.
The other agents, scattered at two different structures in the compound, drove to the ambassador’s building in an armored vehicle and made repeated attempts to feel their way through the smoke and fire to find Stevens and Smith.
When they found Smith, the information officer was dead. The ambassador was still missing.
Security at the compound consisted of five diplomatic security special agents and four Libyans who were members of the Feb. 17 Brigades, a militia assisting the Libyan government, the two officials said.

Reinforcements Arrive

Then a so-called quick reaction security team, housed in an annex about 1.2 miles (1.9 kilometers) from the compound, arrived.
As the additional agents tried to secure the building’s perimeter, they also made repeated attempts to find Stevens. One agent took off his shirt, dipped it into the compound’s swimming pool, and put it back on before heading into the smoke-filled building, the two officials said.
Fearing for their safety, the agents decided they had to evacuate the compound and get to the annex. They piled into the armored vehicle with Smith’s corpse and made their way out the main gate, the two officials said.
With traffic clogging the road, the vehicle was going about 15 miles an hour when a group of men met them and signaled for them to turn. The armored vehicle then was attacked with AK-47 rifle fire and hand grenades. The vehicle kept rolling with two flat tires.

Firing Positions

It eventually reached the annex, where agents took up firing positions on the roof. The annex then took intermittent fire from AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades for several hours, the officials said.
Reinforcements from Tripoli, some 400 miles away, who had been called when the attack began, then arrived and made their way to the annex.
At about 4 a.m., the two officials said, the annex took mortar fire. Some rounds landed on the roof, killing two agents and severely wounding another. Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, two former Navy SEALs working as security personnel, were the other Americans killed in Benghazi.
The remaining agents then decided to evacuate the annex and made their way to the Benghazi airport, where they were evacuated on two flights.

really? you have evidence Obama said no? Please link that up for me to read.

Keep trying to make the attack a issue larger than it is. You will fail like usual.

Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus | The Weekly Standard

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?​

No one else had the authority.

But you just keep insisting your little tin god is perfect. Bootlicker retard.

You gotta love how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood continue to lie when their previous lie is shot down. After being exposed as liars when FOX said the CIA told the agents in Libya to stand down, rather than admit that the agents were not told to stand down, the pathological liars simply accuse others of doing what was never done. As the earlier post shows reinforcements were sent in rather than told to stand down.

What you are saying here has no relationship to actual events, Ed. The CIA operators at the Annex asked three times for permission to go to the consulate when they heard gunfire coming from that location and were told to stand down each time. After the third time they disobeyed orders and made their way to the consulate.

No reinforcements were sent in because Panetta and the General in charge supposedly didn't feel they knew enough about what was happening on the ground to "risk" sending in more troops. This despite having intelligence coming from the Annex and the consulate telling them exactly what was going on, video streams coming from the consulate and the Annex telling them exactly what was going on, and two drones over head during the battle ALSO telling them exactly what was going on. If there was ever a battle that commanders KNEW what was going on...it was THIS ONE!!! The Obama Administration had so much live intel on the situation they might has well have been THERE, yet they couldn't pull the trigger on ANYTHING to help those poor bastards and let them die after fighting for nearly six hours while help was sitting there waiting for the order to deploy. Leon Panetta is a worthless piece of shit. How he sat there and allowed what happened to happen is disgusting. To use the excuse that we didn't know enough about the situation to send help is one of the most pathetic things I've EVER heard.

 

[edthecynic]

pretty much everything in that video is known to be a lie. There was no order to stand down, There was no live feed to the White House, Woods and Doherty were killed on the Annex roof, not at compound C where Stevens was.

Ambassador Died in Smoke While Agents Searched for Him - Bloomberg

The attackers immediately set fire to the building known as the barracks, which housed the compound’s Libyan guards. Then they penetrated the building where Stevens was staying during a visit to Benghazi from Tripoli, the Libyan capital. It contained a protected “safe haven” walled off by a metal grill with locks, the officials said.

Safe Haven

The attackers looked through the grill and saw nothing. They couldn’t break the locks to enter the safe haven, and though no one got in, a security agent with Stevens was prepared to shoot anyone who did.
Instead, the attackers poured diesel fuel in and around the building and set it on fire, according to the two officials.
Stevens was trapped in the burning building as it quickly filled with smoke. By the time the intruders left, the officials said, it was difficult to see or breathe. The ambassador, along with Sean Smith, a foreign-service information officer, and the security agent moved to a bathroom with a window in an attempt to get air.
The three men were on the bathroom floor, desperate for air, when they decided they needed to leave the building. The security agent later told State Department officials that he wasn’t able to see three feet in front of him.
With dozens of armed attackers still at the compound, the agent led Stevens and Smith to a bedroom that had a window exit as more shooting and explosions could be heard outside and tracer bullets pierced the night.

Missing Persons

The agent, barely able to breathe, escaped through the bedroom window, only to discover that Stevens and Smith were no longer with him.
The agent re-entered the building several times in an attempt to find the two men. He never did. He finally staggered up a ladder to the roof, where he radioed other security agents for help, though he could barely speak, the two officials said.
The other agents, scattered at two different structures in the compound, drove to the ambassador’s building in an armored vehicle and made repeated attempts to feel their way through the smoke and fire to find Stevens and Smith.
When they found Smith, the information officer was dead. The ambassador was still missing.
Security at the compound consisted of five diplomatic security special agents and four Libyans who were members of the Feb. 17 Brigades, a militia assisting the Libyan government, the two officials said.

Reinforcements Arrive

Then a so-called quick reaction security team, housed in an annex about 1.2 miles (1.9 kilometers) from the compound, arrived.
As the additional agents tried to secure the building’s perimeter, they also made repeated attempts to find Stevens. One agent took off his shirt, dipped it into the compound’s swimming pool, and put it back on before heading into the smoke-filled building, the two officials said.
Fearing for their safety, the agents decided they had to evacuate the compound and get to the annex. They piled into the armored vehicle with Smith’s corpse and made their way out the main gate, the two officials said.
With traffic clogging the road, the vehicle was going about 15 miles an hour when a group of men met them and signaled for them to turn. The armored vehicle then was attacked with AK-47 rifle fire and hand grenades. The vehicle kept rolling with two flat tires.

Firing Positions

It eventually reached the annex, where agents took up firing positions on the roof. The annex then took intermittent fire from AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades for several hours, the officials said.
Reinforcements from Tripoli, some 400 miles away, who had been called when the attack began, then arrived and made their way to the annex.
At about 4 a.m., the two officials said, the annex took mortar fire. Some rounds landed on the roof, killing two agents and severely wounding another. Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, two former Navy SEALs working as security personnel, were the other Americans killed in Benghazi.
The remaining agents then decided to evacuate the annex and made their way to the Benghazi airport, where they were evacuated on two flights.

Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus | The Weekly Standard

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?​

No one else had the authority.

But you just keep insisting your little tin god is perfect. Bootlicker retard.

You gotta love how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood continue to lie when their previous lie is shot down. After being exposed as liars when FOX said the CIA told the agents in Libya to stand down, rather than admit that the agents were not told to stand down, the pathological liars simply accuse others of doing what was never done. As the earlier post shows reinforcements were sent in rather than told to stand down.

What you are saying here has no relationship to actual events, Ed. The CIA operators at the Annex asked three times for permission to go to the consulate when they heard gunfire coming from that location and were told to stand down each time. After the third time they disobeyed orders and made their way to the consulate.

No reinforcements were sent in because Panetta and the General in charge supposedly didn't feel they knew enough about what was happening on the ground to "risk" sending in more troops. This despite having intelligence coming from the Annex and the consulate telling them exactly what was going on, video streams coming from the consulate and the Annex telling them exactly what was going on, and two drones over head during the battle ALSO telling them exactly what was going on. If there was ever a battle that commanders KNEW what was going on...it was THIS ONE!!! The Obama Administration had so much live intel on the situation they might has well have been THERE, yet they couldn't pull the trigger on ANYTHING to help those poor bastards and let them die after fighting for nearly six hours while help was sitting there waiting for the order to deploy. Leon Panetta is a worthless piece of shit. How he sat there and allowed what happened to happen is disgusting. To use the excuse that we didn't know enough about the situation to send help is one of the most pathetic things I've EVER heard.

As I have pointed out so many times before, when the lies of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood are confronted with the facts, they simply make up more lies.

The CIA annex was a mile away, it's amazing that the sound of "gunfire" carries that far!!! So amazing only a right-wing nut can be stupid enough to believe it. What actually happened is the agent on the roof of compound C radioed them and they came at once, no rejections from CIA headquarters.

Reinforcements came from Tripoli, so there goes the bullshit about no reinforcements. Commandos were also sent from Europe to Italy, but they arrived in Italy after the fighting was over. Their arriving too late to help is twisted by the pathological liars as they were never dispatched.

Video from the compound that was recorded and not recovered until October, some 20 days later, is called a live real time video feed to the White House.

All these facts were readily available to the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood before they constructed their web of lies, which proves their deceit is premeditated. Yet these lying bloodthirsty scum demand that their premeditated lies be taken as fact and anyone who exposes their lies supports the terrorists and cannot be believed.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You gotta love how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood continue to lie when their previous lie is shot down. After being exposed as liars when FOX said the CIA told the agents in Libya to stand down, rather than admit that the agents were not told to stand down, the pathological liars simply accuse others of doing what was never done. As the earlier post shows reinforcements were sent in rather than told to stand down.

What you are saying here has no relationship to actual events, Ed. The CIA operators at the Annex asked three times for permission to go to the consulate when they heard gunfire coming from that location and were told to stand down each time. After the third time they disobeyed orders and made their way to the consulate.

No reinforcements were sent in because Panetta and the General in charge supposedly didn't feel they knew enough about what was happening on the ground to "risk" sending in more troops. This despite having intelligence coming from the Annex and the consulate telling them exactly what was going on, video streams coming from the consulate and the Annex telling them exactly what was going on, and two drones over head during the battle ALSO telling them exactly what was going on. If there was ever a battle that commanders KNEW what was going on...it was THIS ONE!!! The Obama Administration had so much live intel on the situation they might has well have been THERE, yet they couldn't pull the trigger on ANYTHING to help those poor bastards and let them die after fighting for nearly six hours while help was sitting there waiting for the order to deploy. Leon Panetta is a worthless piece of shit. How he sat there and allowed what happened to happen is disgusting. To use the excuse that we didn't know enough about the situation to send help is one of the most pathetic things I've EVER heard.

As I have pointed out so many times before, when the lies of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood are confronted with the facts, they simply make up more lies.

The CIA annex was a mile away, it's amazing that the sound of "gunfire" carries that far!!! So amazing only a right-wing nut can be stupid enough to believe it. What actually happened is the agent on the roof of compound C radioed them and they came at once, no rejections from CIA headquarters.

Reinforcements came from Tripoli, so there goes the bullshit about no reinforcements. Commandos were also sent from Europe to Italy, but they arrived in Italy after the fighting was over. Their arriving too late to help is twisted by the pathological liars as they were never dispatched.

Video from the compound that was recorded and not recovered until October, some 20 days later, is called a live real time video feed to the White House.

All these facts were readily available to the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood before they constructed their web of lies, which proves their deceit is premeditated. Yet these lying bloodthirsty scum demand that their premeditated lies be taken as fact and anyone who exposes their lies supports the terrorists and cannot be believed.

Did you ever consider the possibility that the annex received a call for help from the consulate? Ever heard of radios and sat com? Do you think we live in the the early 20th century like Obama?

 

[edthecynic]

What you are saying here has no relationship to actual events, Ed. The CIA operators at the Annex asked three times for permission to go to the consulate when they heard gunfire coming from that location and were told to stand down each time. After the third time they disobeyed orders and made their way to the consulate.

No reinforcements were sent in because Panetta and the General in charge supposedly didn't feel they knew enough about what was happening on the ground to "risk" sending in more troops. This despite having intelligence coming from the Annex and the consulate telling them exactly what was going on, video streams coming from the consulate and the Annex telling them exactly what was going on, and two drones over head during the battle ALSO telling them exactly what was going on. If there was ever a battle that commanders KNEW what was going on...it was THIS ONE!!! The Obama Administration had so much live intel on the situation they might has well have been THERE, yet they couldn't pull the trigger on ANYTHING to help those poor bastards and let them die after fighting for nearly six hours while help was sitting there waiting for the order to deploy. Leon Panetta is a worthless piece of shit. How he sat there and allowed what happened to happen is disgusting. To use the excuse that we didn't know enough about the situation to send help is one of the most pathetic things I've EVER heard.

As I have pointed out so many times before, when the lies of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood are confronted with the facts, they simply make up more lies.

The CIA annex was a mile away, it's amazing that the sound of "gunfire" carries that far!!! So amazing only a right-wing nut can be stupid enough to believe it. What actually happened is the agent on the roof of compound C radioed them and they came at once, no rejections from CIA headquarters.

Reinforcements came from Tripoli, so there goes the bullshit about no reinforcements. Commandos were also sent from Europe to Italy, but they arrived in Italy after the fighting was over. Their arriving too late to help is twisted by the pathological liars as they were never dispatched.

Video from the compound that was recorded and not recovered until October, some 20 days later, is called a live real time video feed to the White House.

All these facts were readily available to the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood before they constructed their web of lies, which proves their deceit is premeditated. Yet these lying bloodthirsty scum demand that their premeditated lies be taken as fact and anyone who exposes their lies supports the terrorists and cannot be believed.

Did you ever consider the possibility that the annex received a call for help from the consulate? Ever heard of radios and sat com? Do you think we live in the the early 20th century like Obama?

Did you ever consider that you are the STUPIDEST liar on the face of the Earth?

Again we see how worthless lying scum cover their lies, they simply play dumb as if their ignorance excuses their premeditated lies.

So how exactly does your complete idiocy make the claim that the CIA heard the gunfire over a mile away???

 

[The Infidel]

You gotta love how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood continue to lie when their previous lie is shot down. After being exposed as liars when FOX said the CIA told the agents in Libya to stand down, rather than admit that the agents were not told to stand down, the pathological liars simply accuse others of doing what was never done. As the earlier post shows reinforcements were sent in rather than told to stand down.

What you are saying here has no relationship to actual events, Ed. The CIA operators at the Annex asked three times for permission to go to the consulate when they heard gunfire coming from that location and were told to stand down each time. After the third time they disobeyed orders and made their way to the consulate.

No reinforcements were sent in because Panetta and the General in charge supposedly didn't feel they knew enough about what was happening on the ground to "risk" sending in more troops. This despite having intelligence coming from the Annex and the consulate telling them exactly what was going on, video streams coming from the consulate and the Annex telling them exactly what was going on, and two drones over head during the battle ALSO telling them exactly what was going on. If there was ever a battle that commanders KNEW what was going on...it was THIS ONE!!! The Obama Administration had so much live intel on the situation they might has well have been THERE, yet they couldn't pull the trigger on ANYTHING to help those poor bastards and let them die after fighting for nearly six hours while help was sitting there waiting for the order to deploy. Leon Panetta is a worthless piece of shit. How he sat there and allowed what happened to happen is disgusting. To use the excuse that we didn't know enough about the situation to send help is one of the most pathetic things I've EVER heard.

The CIA annex was a mile away, it's amazing that the sound of "gunfire" carries that far!!! So amazing only a right-wing nut can be stupid enough to believe it.

I live well over a mile from a shooting range and I can hear gunfire all the time.. and I am sure mortar rounds are much louder than small arms fire.

 

[edthecynic]

What you are saying here has no relationship to actual events, Ed. The CIA operators at the Annex asked three times for permission to go to the consulate when they heard gunfire coming from that location and were told to stand down each time. After the third time they disobeyed orders and made their way to the consulate.

No reinforcements were sent in because Panetta and the General in charge supposedly didn't feel they knew enough about what was happening on the ground to "risk" sending in more troops. This despite having intelligence coming from the Annex and the consulate telling them exactly what was going on, video streams coming from the consulate and the Annex telling them exactly what was going on, and two drones over head during the battle ALSO telling them exactly what was going on. If there was ever a battle that commanders KNEW what was going on...it was THIS ONE!!! The Obama Administration had so much live intel on the situation they might has well have been THERE, yet they couldn't pull the trigger on ANYTHING to help those poor bastards and let them die after fighting for nearly six hours while help was sitting there waiting for the order to deploy. Leon Panetta is a worthless piece of shit. How he sat there and allowed what happened to happen is disgusting. To use the excuse that we didn't know enough about the situation to send help is one of the most pathetic things I've EVER heard.

The CIA annex was a mile away, it's amazing that the sound of "gunfire" carries that far!!! So amazing only a right-wing nut can be stupid enough to believe it.

I live well over a mile from a shooting range and I can hear gunfire all the time.. and I am sure mortar rounds are much louder than small arms fire.

I live less than a mile from the police shooting range and I have never heard their gunfire at my house in over 20 years. And the poster clearly said gunfire, not mortar fire.

Again it was reported that the CIA annex found out about the attack when they were radioed from the compound.

 

[Ravi]

You gotta love how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood continue to lie when their previous lie is shot down. After being exposed as liars when FOX said the CIA told the agents in Libya to stand down, rather than admit that the agents were not told to stand down, the pathological liars simply accuse others of doing what was never done. As the earlier post shows reinforcements were sent in rather than told to stand down.

What you are saying here has no relationship to actual events, Ed. The CIA operators at the Annex asked three times for permission to go to the consulate when they heard gunfire coming from that location and were told to stand down each time. After the third time they disobeyed orders and made their way to the consulate.

No reinforcements were sent in because Panetta and the General in charge supposedly didn't feel they knew enough about what was happening on the ground to "risk" sending in more troops. This despite having intelligence coming from the Annex and the consulate telling them exactly what was going on, video streams coming from the consulate and the Annex telling them exactly what was going on, and two drones over head during the battle ALSO telling them exactly what was going on. If there was ever a battle that commanders KNEW what was going on...it was THIS ONE!!! The Obama Administration had so much live intel on the situation they might has well have been THERE, yet they couldn't pull the trigger on ANYTHING to help those poor bastards and let them die after fighting for nearly six hours while help was sitting there waiting for the order to deploy. Leon Panetta is a worthless piece of shit. How he sat there and allowed what happened to happen is disgusting. To use the excuse that we didn't know enough about the situation to send help is one of the most pathetic things I've EVER heard.

As I have pointed out so many times before, when the lies of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood are confronted with the facts, they simply make up more lies.

The CIA annex was a mile away, it's amazing that the sound of "gunfire" carries that far!!! So amazing only a right-wing nut can be stupid enough to believe it. What actually happened is the agent on the roof of compound C radioed them and they came at once, no rejections from CIA headquarters.

Reinforcements came from Tripoli, so there goes the bullshit about no reinforcements. Commandos were also sent from Europe to Italy, but they arrived in Italy after the fighting was over. Their arriving too late to help is twisted by the pathological liars as they were never dispatched.

Video from the compound that was recorded and not recovered until October, some 20 days later, is called a live real time video feed to the White House.

All these facts were readily available to the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood before they constructed their web of lies, which proves their deceit is premeditated. Yet these lying bloodthirsty scum demand that their premeditated lies be taken as fact and anyone who exposes their lies supports the terrorists and cannot be believed.

Good post, Ed. I don't know if the nutters are extremely stupid enough to believe Fox's unsourced bullshit or they just like to jump on lies and use dead Americans as tools. Either way, it's pretty sad.

 

[Oldstyle]

You gotta love how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood continue to lie when their previous lie is shot down. After being exposed as liars when FOX said the CIA told the agents in Libya to stand down, rather than admit that the agents were not told to stand down, the pathological liars simply accuse others of doing what was never done. As the earlier post shows reinforcements were sent in rather than told to stand down.

What you are saying here has no relationship to actual events, Ed. The CIA operators at the Annex asked three times for permission to go to the consulate when they heard gunfire coming from that location and were told to stand down each time. After the third time they disobeyed orders and made their way to the consulate.

No reinforcements were sent in because Panetta and the General in charge supposedly didn't feel they knew enough about what was happening on the ground to "risk" sending in more troops. This despite having intelligence coming from the Annex and the consulate telling them exactly what was going on, video streams coming from the consulate and the Annex telling them exactly what was going on, and two drones over head during the battle ALSO telling them exactly what was going on. If there was ever a battle that commanders KNEW what was going on...it was THIS ONE!!! The Obama Administration had so much live intel on the situation they might has well have been THERE, yet they couldn't pull the trigger on ANYTHING to help those poor bastards and let them die after fighting for nearly six hours while help was sitting there waiting for the order to deploy. Leon Panetta is a worthless piece of shit. How he sat there and allowed what happened to happen is disgusting. To use the excuse that we didn't know enough about the situation to send help is one of the most pathetic things I've EVER heard.

As I have pointed out so many times before, when the lies of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood are confronted with the facts, they simply make up more lies.

The CIA annex was a mile away, it's amazing that the sound of "gunfire" carries that far!!! So amazing only a right-wing nut can be stupid enough to believe it. What actually happened is the agent on the roof of compound C radioed them and they came at once, no rejections from CIA headquarters.

Reinforcements came from Tripoli, so there goes the bullshit about no reinforcements. Commandos were also sent from Europe to Italy, but they arrived in Italy after the fighting was over. Their arriving too late to help is twisted by the pathological liars as they were never dispatched.

Video from the compound that was recorded and not recovered until October, some 20 days later, is called a live real time video feed to the White House.

All these facts were readily available to the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood before they constructed their web of lies, which proves their deceit is premeditated. Yet these lying bloodthirsty scum demand that their premeditated lies be taken as fact and anyone who exposes their lies supports the terrorists and cannot be believed.

Nice try, Ed but the scenario you've put forward is NOT what happened that night.

First of all if you don't know that gunfire can be heard from a mile away then you have very little experience with firearms. The CIA operators that were at the Annex have testified that they heard the gunfire from the consulate.

Help did not come from the Annex until several of the CIA operators refused to obey the third order they had received to "stand down" and went to the consulate to try and rescue the Ambassador.

Reinforcements from Tripoli didn't arrive at the consulate...an eight member security team arrived at the Annex after midnight at which point they were attacked by a far stronger force of terrorists armed with heavy weapons such as mortars.

A Delta Force team was flown from where they were training in Europe to an air base in Italy where they sat waiting for an order to deploy that never came. Why is that, Ed? They could have been on the ground in Libya in approximately 2 hours but were never deployed. Neither were C-130 gunships nor US fighter aircraft which meant when CIA operators put lasers on the mortars that were targeting them no US missiles ever came to snuff them out. Why is that, Ed?

As for what the White House had for video? It was reported yesterday that there were not one but two drones overhead relaying real time streaming video back to the US chain of command including the President. They were also in direct communication with CIA personnel inside of the Annex during the entire attack. So kindly explain why Leon Panetta's excuse for not sending help was that they didn't know what the situation was on the ground?