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What Lincoln said in his first inaugural speech was an effort to hold off the war that South Carolinians started with their firing on Ft. Sumter. His thoughts on slavery evolved over the years.There is no doubt slavery is unjust.So, is it your belief that those who know Lincoln’s War was unjust and treasonous, want the return of slavery?Ahh, and having all those slave women at total disposition! Yes, the glory days of that great 'cause'! Bring it back!
At the end of the day that's what bripat9643, The Sage of Main Street and & Company want.
If Lincoln's war was unjust, and the abolition of slavery was a result of this unjust war, then the abolition of slavery was unjust. To right that injustice the 13th amendment must be abolished. QED
Lincoln had no intention of abolishing it, wanted to ensconce it in the constitution if the south stayed, was willing to terminate the Emancipation Proclamation if the South surrendered, then after the war considered deporting all blacks.
At any rate, most of the world eliminated slavery without a shot being fired. Lincoln’s War was entirely unnecessary.
Yet you believe in the mythical perpetual Union. LMFAO.Confederate "homeland" was the homeland of all Americans. The confederacy was a mythical land recognized by no other nations.Lincoln is the one guilty of treachery, treason and inhumanity, you fucking dumbass. There is simply no doubt about that. The Confederates were simply defending their homeland.No one "knows" that it was "Lincoln's war"; some merely choose to distort history in such a way that they can allow themselves to 'think' it. The reason for this is difficult to understand. Whatever flaws that President had, there is nothing that overrides his clear reasoning of what was made necessary to turn back the treachery, treason and inhumanity of those who precipitated the conflict.
It is a mistake to make people into glorious icons.
It is a mistake to ignore what Lincoln faced and what would have happened if a lesser mind had been in place.
No. What he did was threaten the South. He said there will be no war, as long as you pay me the tax. We kill you if you don’t pay.What Lincoln said in his first inaugural speech was an effort to hold off the war that South Carolinians started with their firing on Ft. Sumter. His thoughts on slavery evolved over the years.There is no doubt slavery is unjust.So, is it your belief that those who know Lincoln’s War was unjust and treasonous, want the return of slavery?Ahh, and having all those slave women at total disposition! Yes, the glory days of that great 'cause'! Bring it back!
At the end of the day that's what bripat9643, The Sage of Main Street and & Company want.
If Lincoln's war was unjust, and the abolition of slavery was a result of this unjust war, then the abolition of slavery was unjust. To right that injustice the 13th amendment must be abolished. QED
Lincoln had no intention of abolishing it, wanted to ensconce it in the constitution if the south stayed, was willing to terminate the Emancipation Proclamation if the South surrendered, then after the war considered deporting all blacks.
At any rate, most of the world eliminated slavery without a shot being fired. Lincoln’s War was entirely unnecessary.
Lincoln's Evolving Thoughts On Slavery, And Freedom
How does that prove that Lincoln didn't start the war?Countries aren't recognized until they are, dumbass. You proved nothing.Jeff Davis spoke of a peaceful co-existence between the two countries but there was only one country. The confederacy was recognized by no other nations. It was a southern fantasy.The more perfect Perpetual Union was not maintained by force. A forceful rebellion was put down.
Uh, well, no, no, no. Who invaded whom? The federal government sent armies into the South to force the Southern states to rejoin the Union against their will. Even after the Fort Sumter attack, Jefferson Davis expressed his desire for peace and repeated his offer for peaceful coexistence and MFN trading status, but by that time the Republicans were determined to invade.
You are taking the same attitude toward the right of peaceful separation that the British took when the colonies sought to exercise it. The South did not want to fight.
The actual war, with battles and casualties, began when federal armies invaded states that had revoked their ratification of the Constitution, which they had every right to do.
Since you know nothing about History, you don't know that the so-called confederates were desperate for any European country to recognize them. None would because the truth was obvious even to them. The failure of the vile traitors was inevitable from the moment they started an unnecessary state of civil war.
Notice that the kid is holding his hand up with one finger indicating his IQ? He`s making a case against home schooling.How does that prove that Lincoln didn't start the war?Countries aren't recognized until they are, dumbass. You proved nothing.Jeff Davis spoke of a peaceful co-existence between the two countries but there was only one country. The confederacy was recognized by no other nations. It was a southern fantasy.Uh, well, no, no, no. Who invaded whom? The federal government sent armies into the South to force the Southern states to rejoin the Union against their will. Even after the Fort Sumter attack, Jefferson Davis expressed his desire for peace and repeated his offer for peaceful coexistence and MFN trading status, but by that time the Republicans were determined to invade.
You are taking the same attitude toward the right of peaceful separation that the British took when the colonies sought to exercise it. The South did not want to fight.
The actual war, with battles and casualties, began when federal armies invaded states that had revoked their ratification of the Constitution, which they had every right to do.
Since you know nothing about History, you don't know that the so-called confederates were desperate for any European country to recognize them. None would because the truth was obvious even to them. The failure of the vile traitors was inevitable from the moment they started an unnecessary state of civil war.
The traitors firing on Ft. Sumter started the war. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint, kid.
Even until shortly before his death Lincoln was making plans to ship all the freed slaves to Africa of some island in the Caribbean.What Lincoln said in his first inaugural speech was an effort to hold off the war that South Carolinians started with their firing on Ft. Sumter. His thoughts on slavery evolved over the years.There is no doubt slavery is unjust.So, is it your belief that those who know Lincoln’s War was unjust and treasonous, want the return of slavery?Ahh, and having all those slave women at total disposition! Yes, the glory days of that great 'cause'! Bring it back!
At the end of the day that's what bripat9643, The Sage of Main Street and & Company want.
If Lincoln's war was unjust, and the abolition of slavery was a result of this unjust war, then the abolition of slavery was unjust. To right that injustice the 13th amendment must be abolished. QED
Lincoln had no intention of abolishing it, wanted to ensconce it in the constitution if the south stayed, was willing to terminate the Emancipation Proclamation if the South surrendered, then after the war considered deporting all blacks.
At any rate, most of the world eliminated slavery without a shot being fired. Lincoln’s War was entirely unnecessary.
Lincoln's Evolving Thoughts On Slavery, And Freedom
You obviously can't answer the question either. I've noticed that the personal attacks start in earnest when you ask members of the Lincoln cult questions they have no answer for.Notice that the kid is holding his hand up with one finger indicating his IQ? He`s making a case against home schooling.How does that prove that Lincoln didn't start the war?Countries aren't recognized until they are, dumbass. You proved nothing.Jeff Davis spoke of a peaceful co-existence between the two countries but there was only one country. The confederacy was recognized by no other nations. It was a southern fantasy.
Since you know nothing about History, you don't know that the so-called confederates were desperate for any European country to recognize them. None would because the truth was obvious even to them. The failure of the vile traitors was inevitable from the moment they started an unnecessary state of civil war.
The traitors firing on Ft. Sumter started the war. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint, kid.
No they didn't, moron. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint.How does that prove that Lincoln didn't start the war?Countries aren't recognized until they are, dumbass. You proved nothing.Jeff Davis spoke of a peaceful co-existence between the two countries but there was only one country. The confederacy was recognized by no other nations. It was a southern fantasy.Uh, well, no, no, no. Who invaded whom? The federal government sent armies into the South to force the Southern states to rejoin the Union against their will. Even after the Fort Sumter attack, Jefferson Davis expressed his desire for peace and repeated his offer for peaceful coexistence and MFN trading status, but by that time the Republicans were determined to invade.
You are taking the same attitude toward the right of peaceful separation that the British took when the colonies sought to exercise it. The South did not want to fight.
The actual war, with battles and casualties, began when federal armies invaded states that had revoked their ratification of the Constitution, which they had every right to do.
Since you know nothing about History, you don't know that the so-called confederates were desperate for any European country to recognize them. None would because the truth was obvious even to them. The failure of the vile traitors was inevitable from the moment they started an unnecessary state of civil war.
The traitors firing on Ft. Sumter started the war. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint, kid.
Lincoln had long favored the colonization option but only voluntary. The Emancipation Proclamation rendered that idea effectively dead.Even until shortly before his death Lincoln was making plans to ship all the freed slaves to Africa of some island in the Caribbean.What Lincoln said in his first inaugural speech was an effort to hold off the war that South Carolinians started with their firing on Ft. Sumter. His thoughts on slavery evolved over the years.There is no doubt slavery is unjust.So, is it your belief that those who know Lincoln’s War was unjust and treasonous, want the return of slavery?At the end of the day that's what bripat9643, The Sage of Main Street and & Company want.
If Lincoln's war was unjust, and the abolition of slavery was a result of this unjust war, then the abolition of slavery was unjust. To right that injustice the 13th amendment must be abolished. QED
Lincoln had no intention of abolishing it, wanted to ensconce it in the constitution if the south stayed, was willing to terminate the Emancipation Proclamation if the South surrendered, then after the war considered deporting all blacks.
At any rate, most of the world eliminated slavery without a shot being fired. Lincoln’s War was entirely unnecessary.
Lincoln's Evolving Thoughts On Slavery, And Freedom
No they didn't, moron. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint.How does that prove that Lincoln didn't start the war?Countries aren't recognized until they are, dumbass. You proved nothing.Jeff Davis spoke of a peaceful co-existence between the two countries but there was only one country. The confederacy was recognized by no other nations. It was a southern fantasy.
Since you know nothing about History, you don't know that the so-called confederates were desperate for any European country to recognize them. None would because the truth was obvious even to them. The failure of the vile traitors was inevitable from the moment they started an unnecessary state of civil war.
The traitors firing on Ft. Sumter started the war. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint, kid.
Stop pretending you know any actual history. All you've done is post one lie after another. And then you support it with a barrage of personal attacks.No they didn't, moron. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint.How does that prove that Lincoln didn't start the war?Countries aren't recognized until they are, dumbass. You proved nothing.
Since you know nothing about History, you don't know that the so-called confederates were desperate for any European country to recognize them. None would because the truth was obvious even to them. The failure of the vile traitors was inevitable from the moment they started an unnecessary state of civil war.
The traitors firing on Ft. Sumter started the war. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint, kid.
Stop pretending that stormfront is actual History. Go back to school, you ignorant douche. Your hated for my country does not alter history, fool.
What part of "just before he died" didn't you understand? And he had no intention of making it voluntary.Lincoln had long favored the colonization option but only voluntary. The Emancipation Proclamation rendered that idea effectively dead.Even until shortly before his death Lincoln was making plans to ship all the freed slaves to Africa of some island in the Caribbean.What Lincoln said in his first inaugural speech was an effort to hold off the war that South Carolinians started with their firing on Ft. Sumter. His thoughts on slavery evolved over the years.There is no doubt slavery is unjust.So, is it your belief that those who know Lincoln’s War was unjust and treasonous, want the return of slavery?
If Lincoln's war was unjust, and the abolition of slavery was a result of this unjust war, then the abolition of slavery was unjust. To right that injustice the 13th amendment must be abolished. QED
Lincoln had no intention of abolishing it, wanted to ensconce it in the constitution if the south stayed, was willing to terminate the Emancipation Proclamation if the South surrendered, then after the war considered deporting all blacks.
At any rate, most of the world eliminated slavery without a shot being fired. Lincoln’s War was entirely unnecessary.
Lincoln's Evolving Thoughts On Slavery, And Freedom
Stop pretending you know any actual history. ....No they didn't, moron. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint.How does that prove that Lincoln didn't start the war?Since you know nothing about History, you don't know that the so-called confederates were desperate for any European country to recognize them. None would because the truth was obvious even to them. The failure of the vile traitors was inevitable from the moment they started an unnecessary state of civil war.
The traitors firing on Ft. Sumter started the war. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint, kid.
Stop pretending that stormfront is actual History. Go back to school, you ignorant douche. Your hated for my country does not alter history, fool.
If you know so much about history, then why is everything you post so wrong?Stop pretending you know any actual history. ....No they didn't, moron. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint.How does that prove that Lincoln didn't start the war?
The traitors firing on Ft. Sumter started the war. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint, kid.
Stop pretending that stormfront is actual History. Go back to school, you ignorant douche. Your hated for my country does not alter history, fool.
Unlike you, I actually do. All you have is bitter hatred for my country and a sick nostalgia for slavery.
If you know so much about history, then why is everything you post so wrong?Stop pretending you know any actual history. ....No they didn't, moron. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint.The traitors firing on Ft. Sumter started the war. You’ve been taught this before. Stop licking the lead paint, kid.
Stop pretending that stormfront is actual History. Go back to school, you ignorant douche. Your hated for my country does not alter history, fool.
Unlike you, I actually do. All you have is bitter hatred for my country and a sick nostalgia for slavery.
Confederate "homeland" was the homeland of all Americans. The confederacy was a mythical land recognized by no other nations.Lincoln is the one guilty of treachery, treason and inhumanity, you fucking dumbass. There is simply no doubt about that. The Confederates were simply defending their homeland.No one "knows" that it was "Lincoln's war"; some merely choose to distort history in such a way that they can allow themselves to 'think' it. The reason for this is difficult to understand. Whatever flaws that President had, there is nothing that overrides his clear reasoning of what was made necessary to turn back the treachery, treason and inhumanity of those who precipitated the conflict.
It is a mistake to make people into glorious icons.
It is a mistake to ignore what Lincoln faced and what would have happened if a lesser mind had been in place.
Dung Beatles...but we wouldn't have Rock 'n Roll!
Kit Carson, Where Are You?I wonder what might happen if states tried to secede today. Would they federal government mass murder them, as Lincoln did?Jeff Davis spoke of a peaceful co-existence between the two countries but there was only one country. The confederacy was recognized by no other nations. It was a southern fantasy.
No, actually, under the original intent of the Constitution, when those states revoked their ratification, which they had a constitutional right to do, they reverted to the status of independent and sovereign nation states. Before all 13 states ratified the federal constitution, those states that had not yet ratified the constitution were treated as separate nations by the states that had joined the federal union.
You see, the problem is that you guys are adopting the same attitude toward peaceful separation that the British adopted when the colonies tried to peacefully separate from England. The Patriots (i.e., the colonists who wanted to separate) bitterly condemned England's attempt to force the colonies to remain under British control. The British replied that they were merely putting down a rebellion.
That's why the framers were so emphatic that their union would not be maintained by force. That's why they did not specify that ratification was irrevocable. That's why they decidedly rejected the idea that the federal government would be able to use force against disobedient states. That's why they even specified that the federal government could not even send troops into a state without the state government's permission.
I've documented all of these facts in the following two articles:
Proof that the Union was Supposed to be Voluntary
The American Revolution and the Right of Peaceful Separation
What if California were to secede, after Trump wins re-election. Just a thought.
The result might be a total dismantling of our criminal central government. I say that might be a wonderful thing.
The South Had Slavery; the North Had Sweatshops. The North Had No Moral Superiority.Ahh, and having all those slave women at total disposition! Yes, the glory days of that great 'cause'! Bring it back!
At the end of the day that's what bripat9643, The Sage of Main Street and & Company want.
The South Had Slavery; the North Had Sweatshops. The North Had No Moral Superiority.Ahh, and having all those slave women at total disposition! Yes, the glory days of that great 'cause'! Bring it back!
At the end of the day that's what bripat9643, The Sage of Main Street and & Company want.
What Preppy Progressive snobs want is the subjugation of all other White people, using Black thugs as their enforcers.
