Civil war from a left and right perspective.

[anynameyouwish]

In certain situations our Military will intercede to stop a civil insurrection, whichever side, whatever state or region. Would they get involved in an all-out civil war of some duration....I don't believe so. After a time, shooting fellow Americans would disgust the majority of our Troopers and they'd refuse the orders, shoot the officers who persisted. The left doesn't have the stomach to take us on....it would be carnage and they'd paint their asses white and run with the antelopes.

Consider the following:

THE LEFT tell us every single day how they are the educated, university-bred, science-orientated and progressive, their best friends are the textbook, computer and slide rule. Their idea of a bad day is their mocha latte being served cold at Panera Bread.
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And by their definition, every day the Left tell us that THE RIGHT are backward hillbillies, crazed gun nuts, who live in swamps and live on roots, bugs, swamp water and dirt, paranoid sociopaths who think nothing of slaughtering illegals as they cross the border with no regard for civility or human decency. Their idea of a bad day is shooting one of their own hunting dogs by mistake while aiming for a pack of rabid wild wolves in the outbacks of Montana.
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WHO you going to bank on again in an all out civil war?

^anti-intellectualism. Gosh, when has that ever gone wrong?

That's when Islam started going south....when the far right reactionary imams took over from the scientists and mathematicians at the end of the Islamic Golden Age.

That's true.

When the RIGHT WING ISLAMIC fundies took over they started down the path of blood thirsty religion....

I have no doubt that RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN fundies will do likewise.

 

[bodecea]

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The military will respect and serve the chain of command. .

Not if there is a Civil War like is postulated in this thread.

The last time there was a Civil War a tremendous number of military deserted to the other side. The same thing would happen now in a Right v Left conflict.

The tremendous number of Conservatives in the armed forces would not support a Leftest regime fighting against Constitutional liberties. The oath is to the Constitution, not Communist Party leaders.

But that was a time where the officers could resign their commissions and left for the South before the conflict started. How many, after the war started refused their orders to fight?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

 

[bodecea]

They had no problem at Kent State.

Aaaaah thanks bodey!!!
Thats the one I was waiting for. And who were they shooting?

Not a good example for you--they shot law-abiding Americans exercising their constitutional rights. yeah, they were throwing rocks and acting the fools....but the shooting was deemed as egregious by most.

Better for your example would be any of the numerable times the army was used to break strikes..killing workers and upholding the sacred right of Ownership.

Oh it's a great example.
They were shooting leftist hippies.

AKA college students...many of whom were on their way to class.

While throwing rocks and bottles.
Maybe they should have just went to class.

So those shot were throwing rocks and bottles? Kent State shootings - Wikipedia

Notice that doesn't change that the Nat'l Guardsmen didn't refuse to fire on citizens.

 

[Marion Morrison]

This is the most comprehensive analyses of what would happen if civil war were to break out in America I've come across...and it paints a very bleak outcome for the left.

A lot of these points have been brought up here but this guy really nails it down.

Interesting video. However, I do not believe America is headed or even close to a shooting civil war 2.0. Rather, I think we've been (the U.S.A) engaged in a full blown cultural and technological cold civil war for about six or seven decades, a war fought through the entertainment industry and academic ideology on and from campuses across the country. Further, I do believe that the ultimate aim of Democrat majority controlled states such as California and Washington is secession. Yes, I predict such states will either actually secede from "the Union" or at least threaten secession as extortion to gain more power and advance cultural war objectives.

Now, speaking to what an actual shooting civil war 2.0 might look like, well . . . in my opinion, the opinion of a twenty-seven year Army veteran . . . what we'd at most see is as follows. We'd see governors and mayors of sanctuary states and cities using the combined might of their police and national guard forces to sort of keep out the Feds, and protect their rule and the rule of their ultra-liberal policies in those places. We might also see something very similar to the Paris Commune during the French Revolution in cities such as LA and Portland, where essentially those metropolitan centers of radical liberal culture become micro-nations unto themselves. As for regular US Military forces, I highly doubt they would be used domestically beyond a very basic crowd control and anti-insurrectionist/terrorist capacity. No sitting President, again in my opinion, would authorize use of heavy air bombardment against domestic population centers, unless the imminent danger was great enough to threaten the seat of our federal government itself. Mass desertion from regular, active duty forces for ideological purposes? The chances of that are very, very low.

The biggest fault I see in your hypothesis is the state of California using it's Nat Guard.
They like most Military personnel are right wing,and the vast majority of those troops in California dont even come from there,they're just stationed there.

When, in the history of this country, has the military refused to go against its citizens?

It will when leftards like you think they're going to back your Commie ways, you piece of shit. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution. Whatcha think think about that, bitch?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

This is the most comprehensive analyses of what would happen if civil war were to break out in America I've come across...and it paints a very bleak outcome for the left.

A lot of these points have been brought up here but this guy really nails it down.

good stuff im still listening
I call NUkes fall under the protection of the 2nd amendment ! for the right of course

...I love how some of them believe a government can never fall.....the one they wanna change ,the flawed one they say is the racist slave owning founders fault .
theyre retarded
retarded !
hes right about NYC thier 50,000 cops ....and if you want to see what an Intact city would look like under martial law we've already seen it in Boston and New Orleans.
In an all out " its on niggas" scenario ?

The electrical grid pfffft it wouldn't take long to cause pandemonium in lefttard cities and burbs.
For example their are major power lines that run through sparsely populated areas of upstate NY ..WHich is populated by pissed off right wing red necks former military and hippies. i would expect purges in NY , New England ,Pensylvania

The suburbs youll probably get the most armed white communist action
in my mind without a doubt

Gas lines to
Electric and natural gas ?They're already in bad shape when everything is just "peachy"
THey need to add capacity but refuse new power lines out of Canada and New gas lines ..lefty environmentalist are their own worst enemy.
You could keep NYC without power indefinitely . Their only hope would be to secure and frak western NY ...but youd also need delivery and refining infrastructure ...lol good luck in mountains during spicy times.Their local coal and gas fired capacity is not enough theyd have to be supplied by water or from the west .it wouldnt go well for the left ...

"At Antifa we have guns and we know how to use them!
I have my Ack dash 4 7 and I know how to use it."
Thats all fun and games
But someone here posted these communist Antifa retards who threatened a family .



and they call us evil and dangerous PFFFFFT . That guy just dont look right in the head
hes now a felon

 

[bodecea]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

Where did you get that figure from? And how would that be reflected when it comes to following orders?

 

[HappyJoy]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

Where did you get that figure from? And how would that be reflected when it comes to following orders?

Also, there is a huge difference in ideology between wanting small government and shooting U.S. citizens.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

Where did you get that figure from? And how would that be reflected when it comes to following orders?

It's around that oath to uphold the Constitution, you stupid fucking Plywood Pete lying piece of shit. You ain't got no military rank, and you're a piece of shit lying dyke, ok? You actually think the military is going to attack their friends and family, you stupid fucking dyke leftist kunt? I say bring it! We'll kill you fucking all, bitch!
Fucking bring it! Bring it now, you hairy butt queer kunt!

We'll do away with pieces of shit like you like there's no tomorrow and love it, bitch. Believe that

 

[occupied]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

The military recruits heavily in depressed areas where decent jobs are scarce AKA Trump country. Are you saying all those "conservative" soldiers would betray their country and make war on their fellow Americans? Maybe a few would, White supremacists urge military service in order to learn weapons and tactics. If you are counting on them you are fucked.

 

[Flash]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Bullshit. There is no Left or Right to military strategy. You do what works or you fail.

Communists have been good at starting murderous revolutions and they also been good at fucking up everything even worse after the revolution.

 

[mdk]

It's been a couple days since ya'll jerked off over the idea of killing your fellow American.*


*ThEy ArE nOt mY FeLloW AmERicANS!

Well, those who still support delegitimizing a duly elected President 3 years out, I'm sad to say, are not MY fellow Americans, any longer.

They've gone bonkers rogue.

I am not sure how duly elected President Trump is? I've never seen a legitimate birth certificate. You're going to be standing in the middle of the civil war aiming in both directions.

Not sure if serious.

That's precisely the way I like it.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

Where did you get that figure from? And how would that be reflected when it comes to following orders?

Also, there is a huge difference in ideology between wanting small government and shooting U.S. citizens.

You think real Americans aren't ready to off pieces of shit such as you? You better think again, boy. We've killed Nazis, anybody that fucked with us, and you're the one fucking with us now. What do you think is going to happen there, dumbass?

You think the patriotic military is going to be behind your communist bullshit? You got life fucked up. Rangers on your ass, motherfucker. That's the reality of this situation. Is that what you want?
Do you even know how Rangers roll? Rangers kill, effectively and efficiently, and I bet leftists can't even turn 10% of them. They're Americans. . Real Americans.

 

[ABikerSailor]

ROTFLMAO!

Science fiction..and not even good sci-fi!

High desertion rates..our military?

He's drunk. The US military takes their oaths far more seriously than he believes.

I have heard this bs for years now..and i get a kick out of it every time. 4G warfare...rendering heavy weapon meaningless?

Never really seen a ToT barrage before..or understand that artillery is an area denial weapon?

There no such thing as the Conservative army! No Liberal counter-forces!

Just s shop-worn fantasy of some dystopian end of days they call SHTF! Not going to happen guy...at least not with some civil war twixt the cons and the Libs..

Now is you're talking the coming resource wars..when water and power will dwindle---might need a gun or two..in some areas.

but in that case..the military would be in there helping..stem the tide of hungry people.

So while they're stemming the tide of hungary people who's doing their fighting?

And no the military will not fire on American citizens.

Yes..they have..many times...and would do so again..if that situation arose.


fighting is not everything a military does...just sayin'

Really?
And when did our military fire on American citizens?

Ever hear about the Kent State massacre?

 

[bodecea]

This is the most comprehensive analyses of what would happen if civil war were to break out in America I've come across...and it paints a very bleak outcome for the left.

A lot of these points have been brought up here but this guy really nails it down.

Interesting video. However, I do not believe America is headed or even close to a shooting civil war 2.0. Rather, I think we've been (the U.S.A) engaged in a full blown cultural and technological cold civil war for about six or seven decades, a war fought through the entertainment industry and academic ideology on and from campuses across the country. Further, I do believe that the ultimate aim of Democrat majority controlled states such as California and Washington is secession. Yes, I predict such states will either actually secede from "the Union" or at least threaten secession as extortion to gain more power and advance cultural war objectives.

Now, speaking to what an actual shooting civil war 2.0 might look like, well . . . in my opinion, the opinion of a twenty-seven year Army veteran . . . what we'd at most see is as follows. We'd see governors and mayors of sanctuary states and cities using the combined might of their police and national guard forces to sort of keep out the Feds, and protect their rule and the rule of their ultra-liberal policies in those places. We might also see something very similar to the Paris Commune during the French Revolution in cities such as LA and Portland, where essentially those metropolitan centers of radical liberal culture become micro-nations unto themselves. As for regular US Military forces, I highly doubt they would be used domestically beyond a very basic crowd control and anti-insurrectionist/terrorist capacity. No sitting President, again in my opinion, would authorize use of heavy air bombardment against domestic population centers, unless the imminent danger was great enough to threaten the seat of our federal government itself. Mass desertion from regular, active duty forces for ideological purposes? The chances of that are very, very low.

The biggest fault I see in your hypothesis is the state of California using it's Nat Guard.
They like most Military personnel are right wing,and the vast majority of those troops in California dont even come from there,they're just stationed there.

When, in the history of this country, has the military refused to go against its citizens?

It will when leftards like you think they're going to back your Commie ways, you piece of shit. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution. Whatcha think think about that, bitch?

I ask again...when in the history of this country, has the military refused to go against its citizens? Can you tell me of a time they did that?

 

[bodecea]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

Where did you get that figure from? And how would that be reflected when it comes to following orders?

It's around that oath to uphold the Constitution, you stupid fucking Plywood Pete lying piece of shit. You ain't got no military rank, and you're a piece of shit lying dyke, ok? You actually think the military is going to attack their friends and family, you stupid fucking dyke leftist kunt? I say bring it! We'll kill you fucking all, bitch!
Fucking bring it! Bring it now, you hairy butt queer kunt!

We'll do away with pieces of shit like you like there's no tomorrow and love it, bitch. Believe that

You sound upset. Does my pointing out that the military has never, in the history of this country, refused to go against our own citizens trigger you?

 

[HappyJoy]

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

Where did you get that figure from? And how would that be reflected when it comes to following orders?

Also, there is a huge difference in ideology between wanting small government and shooting U.S. citizens.

You think real Americans aren't ready to off pieces of shit such as you? You better think again, boy. We've killed Nazis, anybody that fucked with us, and you're the one fucking with us now. What do you think is going to happen there, dumbass?

Then why haven't you?

 

[bodecea]

Most of your fantasy confederates see themselves as the general, never the foot soldier who would have to actually fight. Wars are fought by the young who for some reason don't give a damn about the entitled complaints of a bunch of spoiled geezers.

The Left also starts their filthy revolutions and the young and old both die. Just saying.

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

The military recruits heavily in depressed areas where decent jobs are scarce AKA Trump country. Are you saying all those "conservative" soldiers would betray their country and make war on their fellow Americans? Maybe a few would, White supremacists urge military service in order to learn weapons and tactics. If you are counting on them you are fucked.

When has the military refused to go against its own citizens? Can we have an example?

 

[bodecea]

Right or wrong "the left" at least knows how to conduct an insurgency. Rightists do not have revolutions, they have military coups and quickly find themselves absolutely screwed. It's why I find all this civil war talk so comical. Rightists are cowards who always look to others to do their fighting for them.

Really?
Than why is the military 2/3 conservative?

Where did you get that figure from? And how would that be reflected when it comes to following orders?

Also, there is a huge difference in ideology between wanting small government and shooting U.S. citizens.

You think real Americans aren't ready to off pieces of shit such as you? You better think again, boy. We've killed Nazis, anybody that fucked with us, and you're the one fucking with us now. What do you think is going to happen there, dumbass?

Then why haven't you?

Excellent question. We're seeing a lot of ranting.....no action however. And it's ironic to brag about killing NAZIs when those on the Far Right are waving NAZI flags these days in places like Charlottesville and Detroit.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

There is no civil war. There are some wingnuts who want one and probably represent about 10% of the country and then there is everyone else. Basically the cops will sweep it up.

10% = 32,800,000

Cops = less than 1,000,000

Total Military (active and reserve) = 2,500,000

If 10% want it, cops won't be sweeping up anything but their own asses.

.

10% vs 90% to include army, cops, normal people.

I guess the right thinks democracy is dead because they aren't getting their way.

The revolutionary war was fought with 10-15% of the population. Add in today’s big cities and their reliance on food shipments daily and easily half of your side starved to death in a few weeks.