Bfgrn
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Bfgrn:
In addition to your gilded view of the glory of FDR, and your irrational love affair with a larger more powerful state apparatus --- Seems like you're also prone to being easily distracted by shiny objects.
I really don't give a dam about "wealth gap" charts. Whether the top 10% of wealth is concentrated in 10 people or 100,000. This is not a primary cause of decline in this country. It's merely an excuse to start cannabalizing the leftovers by the weak and flabby.
It's a side-effect of the economic COMPRESSION that we are in.. Something that the LEFT has ADVOCATED for years. Since GDP growth and expansion were an absolute abomination to Progressives --- Wasn't it BFgrn??? The reality that we are finally seeing the pain and anguish associated with the Progressive vision to HOBBLE the economy and make it "sustainable" -- is the first proof positive of the wrong-headedness of the Progressive mission. Think the American people want to CONTINUE the Progressive agenda now that they've seen the first Act of the playbook?
I DO however care about incarceration rates, since that is a real indication of state mandate over personal freedoms and rights. But you have failed to prove that our DEM/REP political monopoly gives any choice over that matter. Since neither party has addressed the fundamental reason for the rise in incarceration. In fact, California with it's 3 strikes law is NOT a hotbed of Conservatism and even with Med MaryJane stores on every urban street, there are STILL WAAY too many non-violent drug offenders cluttering up the prisons there.
Looking to tortured quotes from Gladstone using century old definitions of political affilation is not helpful to diagnosing and curing current economic problems. Even today's economists are using outdated models for our current economy. For instance the shift to a service economy has completely changed the "stimulus" model of encouraging consumption. It affects the size and growth patterns of business and their ability to fund expansion as well. Too many people looking over the stern..
All your rant proves is the dangers of a corporatocracy and a plutocracy. Something that the conservative era has re-created. Regulatory capture is not regulation; it is wealth capturing the power to crush We, the People.
If you were to diagnose this properly -- we'd be in agreement. There IS collusion between GOVT and "wealth". There is collusion between GOVT and Corporations. But you have the cause and effect ass-backwards.
When you ALLOW GOVT to increase it's ability to hand out favors, meddle in mergers, define phoney markets (like Green Jobs), and select winner/losers, --- there is NO CHOICE for wealth and corporations. They MUST be engaged in the process. Like it or not -- they (like Bill Gates learned when he was attacked by the state behemoth for handing out free software) will be recruited to lobby and influence the process.
Like I said, the GOVT can't prescribed an INTELLIGIENT, WORKABLE energy policy unless they know what's in the LABS, under the ground, and in the plans at ALL the energy companies. That involves ample fornication with "the enemy". And a need to get access to things that even INVESTORS don't have access to. After seeing the reality of NON-Intelligient investment aka Solyndra -- you start to realize that the govt isn't quite shooting even THAT accurately. This is the REALITY of GOVT/CORP collusion. No amount of reminiscing about FDR is gonna get you to this fact..
You don't blame the Corps and wealthy for TAKING the bait. You stop the chumming process. You get GOVT to concentrate on the BASIC Services for the people like Fair Elections and Voting, Like less international war and tension, Like Public Education, Like living within it's means. You wean all those corporate parasites OFF the bloodstream and force them to go wild again..
Til you get cause/effect right Bfgrn and accurately diagnose the problem --- there is no sense prescribing meds..
I can understand why you don't like charts and facts, they don't support your dogma.
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