The GOP's socialist scare

[sealybobo]

Labels like socialist, fascist and communist don't scare the left because that's where they are.

No, it bothers us because it's a lie and we know how dumb Americans have been in the past with Red Scare.

 

[Rambunctious]

We are not making it up... just repeating libs who can't or won't take care of their own... they want you to take care of them....

 

[sealybobo]

We are not making it up... just repeating libs who can't or won't take care of their own... they want you to take care of them....

America isn't a Capitalist Country nor are we a Socialist country. We're a mix.


A Capitalist Economy is an economic system in which private entities control the factors of production. These factors of production include capital goods, natural resources, labour etc. The production and consumption of goods and services in this economy is dependent on demand and supply. These market forces dictate the Capitalist form of economy. The main motive of production in this economy is to earn a profit.

In a Socialist Economy, the government is the primary entity and it decides on the products and services manufactured in line with society’s requirements. They also have complete control over the factors of production. The main motive for producing goods and services in this economy is social welfare and not profit, and thus the needs and wants of an individual buyer is not essential. In this type of economy, the prices of commodities are under the control of the government. Since the government controls every sector/industry, there is zero competition in this economic system.

A mixed economic system is one that combines aspects of both capitalism and socialism. A mixed economic system accepts private property and permits economic freedom in the use of capital, but also allows for governments to interfere in economic activities in order to achieve social aims.

A mixed economy is an economic system that combines elements of a market economy and a planned economy, and is a combination of socialism and capitalism. It's characterized by the coexistence of private and public sectors, with some government intervention and regulation.

 

[Rambunctious]

America isn't a Capitalist Country nor are we a Socialist country. We're a mix.


A Capitalist Economy is an economic system in which private entities control the factors of production. These factors of production include capital goods, natural resources, labour etc. The production and consumption of goods and services in this economy is dependent on demand and supply. These market forces dictate the Capitalist form of economy. The main motive of production in this economy is to earn a profit.

In a Socialist Economy, the government is the primary entity and it decides on the products and services manufactured in line with society’s requirements. They also have complete control over the factors of production. The main motive for producing goods and services in this economy is social welfare and not profit, and thus the needs and wants of an individual buyer is not essential. In this type of economy, the prices of commodities are under the control of the government. Since the government controls every sector/industry, there is zero competition in this economic system.

A mixed economic system is one that combines aspects of both capitalism and socialism. A mixed economic system accepts private property and permits economic freedom in the use of capital, but also allows for governments to interfere in economic activities in order to achieve social aims.

A mixed economy is an economic system that combines elements of a market economy and a planned economy, and is a combination of socialism and capitalism. It's characterized by the coexistence of private and public sectors, with some government intervention and regulation.

We are a democratic republic and the challenge is to hold onto capitalism...
Communism and socialism is a failed way of life....
it strips you of your freedom....
it takes what is yours and gives to another.... and the only people who are happy are the law makers who entrench themselves in public office....

 

[sealybobo]

We are a democratic republic and the challenge is to hold onto capitalism...
Communism and socialism is a failed way of life....
it strips you of your freedom....
it takes what is yours and gives to another.... and the only people who are happy are the law makers who entrench themselves in public office....

Nope. We are a blend of Capitalism and Socialism. THAT is the best way. Not 100% capitalism.

 

[Rambunctious]

Nope. We are a blend of Capitalism and Socialism. THAT is the best way. Not 100% capitalism.

It fluctuates with every election.... you need to travel to a socialist nation and speak to the people who live there.... do that before you advocate for it here....

 

[Anathema]

Glad to hear you are in MA.

Not sure why you’re so glad about having the enemy behind your lines. Especially since I work in thecutility industry.

Glad you admit the GOP is the racist party. That the southern strategy is real. That if we were to go back to then, you'd be a Democrat

Unfortunately I really isn’t. More importantly they’ve shied asay from the misogony, isolationism and self-sufficiency that should be the core ideals of the party.,

Can you explain the last part? What do you mean the government shouldn't regulate industry? Of course it should

Other than the interstate commerce clause, please show me any SPECIFIC item in the US Constitution (and original 10 amendments) where the Government is provided any power over private business.

 

[Rambunctious]

 

[HikerGuy83]

Sometimes you have to threaten corporate price gougers and break up monopolies. What would you do? Remember Trump threatened Harley Davidson with tariffs?

Please tell me when something goes from not gouging to gouging.

 

[sealybobo]

It fluctuates with every election.... you need to travel to a socialist nation and speak to the people who live there.... do that before you advocate for it here....

Yes I talk to socialists all the time. They love their socialized medicine. I wish we had a public option too.

I could retire at 60 if I had free healthcare. 62 for sure.

 

[Rambunctious]

Yes I talk to socialists all the time. They love their socialized medicine. I wish we had a public option too.

I could retire at 60 if I had free healthcare. 62 for sure.

Socialism just costs us 818,000 jobs... Bidenomics has failed and Harris tried to cover this up today but there must be a patriot who said no and released the jobs report accurately today...

 

[HikerGuy83]

if the police don't have reasonable suspicion that they have committed a crime.

And who determines that ?

You seem pretty stupid.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I wish we had a public option too.

Harris wants NO PRIVATE OPTION.

She may have changed her words, but Hindenburg has been saying it for some time.

 

[Rambunctious]

A lot of our boards socialists want single payer healthcare... which means the federal government will pay for it all... let me ask them a question... what happened to student loans when the government started to cover it?... the price of tuition tripled over night....

 

[sealybobo]

Harris wants NO PRIVATE OPTION.

She may have changed her words, but Hindenburg has been saying it for some time.

Got a link?

 

[sealybobo]

A lot of our boards socialists want single payer healthcare... which means the federal government will pay for it all... let me ask them a question... what happened to student loans when the government started to cover it?... the price of tuition tripled over night....

If there is a cheap government option it will force private insurers to be more competitive.

A lot of our board capitalists want insurance companies to be able to deny us coverage for pre existing conditions. That would fuck over A LOT of Americans and no one should vote Republican for this reason alone.

 

[Rambunctious]

If there is a cheap government option it will force private insurers to be more competitive.

A lot of our board capitalists want insurance companies to be able to deny us coverage for pre existing conditions. That would fuck over A LOT of Americans and no one should vote Republican for this reason alone.

You don't force competition you allow for it... and you don't get it via the government... you get it by taking the government out of it....
Competition is not a mandated event.... it happens due to capitalism....

 

[Invisibleflash]

She's a Socialist! He's a Communist!

Sorry Republicans, but you're not scaring people with that anymore.

Today's internet age has given Americans a view into the way other countries operate. They see the countries of Europe with their high taxes and government benefits to the masses, and see hundreds of millions of better educated, healthier, happier people than in America. Communist countries such as China and Viet Nam have economies that have proven reasonably stable, with qualities of life far above the 3rd world standards of the past. Mention socialism to those under 40, with little or no memory of the cold war, and it barely rates a shrug. Right wing predictions of America turning into a socialist hellhole during the Clinton, Obama, and Biden administrations never materialized. Sorry Republicans, you'll have to find another scare tactic. This one isn't scary anymore.











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[sealybobo]

You don't force competition you allow for it... and you don't get it via the government... you get it by taking the government out of it....
Competition is not a mandated event.... it happens due to capitalism....

With unregulated free market capitalism where government doesn't get involved, companies like Amazon would destroy all the mom and pops.

And buying from China has too. Would you not want the government to stop free trade coming from China?

 

[Rambunctious]

With unregulated free market capitalism where government doesn't get involved, companies like Amazon would destroy all the mom and pops.

And buying from China has too. Would you not want the government to stop free trade coming from China?

No you still must enforce monopoly laws... which are not being enforced by dems by the way...
And trade with China is fine as long as they stop stealing our technology and taxing the shit out of our goods.... and spying on us...