Concealed carry gun owner stops a 3 on 1 beating and robbery...

Here's the deal.

In the UK there are not many guns. Which means not many incidences of violent crime get stopped.

In the US there are lots of guns, which means many incidences of violent crime might get stopped.

Which means, when the UK and US have similar violent crime levels, that the US has FAR, FAR more levels of attempted crime compared to the UK.

And why? Because the politicians don't bother to solve any of the problems in society and you people keep voting for the same two lame political parties who enrich themselves.

You might as well vote for Pepsi or Coca-Cola at the next election, doesn't make any difference.

Great rationalization, simpleton.

The fact is Australia had a serious gun problem 20 years. They were smart, they banned guns, and now their gun murder problems are 99% over.

Those are the facts, whether a dishonest Repug like you wants to accept them or not.


And no, Australian gun control did not stop mass shootings there....before you post that lie.....

Here are public shootings in Australia after they banned and confiscated guns..

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


  • 25 January 1996 – Hillcrest murders – Peter May shot and killed his three children, his estranged wife and her parents in the Brisbane suburb of Hillcrest before killing himself.[54]
  • 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.
  • 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
  • 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[60][61]
  • 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
    • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
    • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shootingHuan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
    • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families, 24-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom, up to 100 shots were fired into the house from four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.
    • 26 July 2004 – Security guard Karen Brown shot dead armed robber William Aquilina in a Sydney carpark after he violently bashed her and stole the hotel's takings. Brown was charged with murder but acquitted on the grounds of self-defence.[66][67]
  • 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
  • 10 April 2010 – Rajesh Osborne shot and killed his three children, 12 year-old Asia, 10-year-old Jarius and 7-year-old Grace before killing himself in Roxburgh, Victoria.[citation needed]
  • 29 January 2012 – Giovanni Focarelli, son of Comancheros gang member Vincenzo Focarelli, was shot dead whilst Vincenzo survived the fourth attempt on his life.[79]
  • 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
  • 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]
  • 15 December 2012 – Aaron Carlino murdered drug dealer Stephen Cookson in his East Perth home by shooting him twice in the head and then he cut up and dismembered his body. He buried his arms legs and torso in the backyard of his house and he wrapped his head in a plastic bag and dumped it on Rottnest Island. The head of Cookson was later found washed up on Rottnest Island by an 11-year-old girl. Carlino was convicted of the murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[citation needed]
  • 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
  • 29 July 2013 – Two bikie gang associates, Vasko Boskovski and Bassil Hijazi were shot dead in two separate shooting incidents minutes apart in South West Sydney. The previous week Bassil Hijazi had survived a previous attempt against his life after he was shot inside his car.[citation needed]
  • 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]
  • 22 October 2014 – Wedderburn shootings – Ian Jamieson shot dead Peter Lockhart, Peter's wife Mary and Mary's son Greg Holmes on two farm properties in Wedderburn, Victoria over a property dispute. Jamieson surrendered to police after a three-and-a-half hour siege.[citation needed]
  • 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed]
  • 12 November 2014 – Jamie Edwards and Joelene Joyce a married couple who were drug dealers are found shot dead in a car on a highway in the town of Moama, New South Wales.[86]
  • 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
  • 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.
  • 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
  • 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.

Well looks like gun banning didn’t go to well and you want to know why, bad guys are always going to get guns. They don’t buy them they steal and sell them. All you do is take the guns out of the citizens hands and put them in more danger.


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It did work. This is NOTHING compared to what happens in ONE YEAR in this country.
 
Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.

Excellent!! That makes up for the 50+ people killed in Las Vegas last year, Repug goober!

You have to be the most ignorant piece of trash I have ever had the displeasure to meet. You where the kid who got picked on in school, weren’t you. You had the pocket protector and all.


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I guess. Except you haven't met me, Repug simpleton gun nut goober.
 
Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.
More good people should get their ccw. Why don’t all of you usmb right wingers? If you truly believe why don’t you carry?

I’m asking any of you who don’t carry
 
Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.

Excellent!! That makes up for the 50+ people killed in Las Vegas last year, Repug goober!

You have to be the most ignorant piece of trash I have ever had the displeasure to meet. You where the kid who got picked on in school, weren’t you. You had the pocket protector and all.


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I guess. Except you haven't met me, Repug simpleton gun nut goober.

You would never meet me. You don’t have the balls to meet me. You also n ver did real work in your life. I come from a background of cops and firefighters. We had to save little pussy bitches like you. What do all the murder capitals and high crime rate states have in common. STRICT GUN LAWS. Do you research, I’m sorry research is too big a word for you to understand. Look and get the results moron.


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Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.

Excellent!! That makes up for the 50+ people killed in Las Vegas last year, Repug goober!


Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals.....you asswipe......

and lawnmowers kill more people every year than mass shooters do....you dumbass....

And the shooter in Vegas used 2 rifles, fired over 1,000 rounds of ammo into a tightly packed crowd of over 22,000 people from a concealed and fortified position...

He killed 58 people.

A muslim terrorist drove a rental truck into a crowd in Nice, France.

He killed 86 people...

So, dumb ass, what weapon was more deadly, the gun or the truck.....

You are a dumb ass.
Why didn’t all those country music fans start shooting back? We’re guns banned from the venue? It would have been sweet if half the crowd started shooting back.
 
Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.

Excellent!! That makes up for the 50+ people killed in Las Vegas last year, Repug goober!

You have to be the most ignorant piece of trash I have ever had the displeasure to meet. You where the kid who got picked on in school, weren’t you. You had the pocket protector and all.


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I guess. Except you haven't met me, Repug simpleton gun nut goober.

You would never meet me. You don’t have the balls to meet me. You also n ver did real work in your life. I come from a background of cops and firefighters. We had to save little pussy bitches like you. What do all the murder capitals and high crime rate states have in common. STRICT GUN LAWS. Do you research, I’m sorry research is too big a word for you to understand. Look and get the results moron.


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I’ll agree and disagree. Good people should be allowed to conceal carry yes but I think the gun industry needs to be more regulated as a whole.

For example that black couple who got caught with an Arsenal. I guess they could build up that arsenal legally over time but maybe we need to register every gun. Every sale needs to go through the police. I know the arguments against it but how does the kid in Florida get that kind of fire power?

Or when the kid in Florida was video tapped waving guns. That video should have been justification to take his guns.

Ultimately we Americans have to figure out what we are doing wrong.

And it’s not poor blacks or women or Mexicans or Muslims. It’s usually angry white men
 
Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.
Democrat solution: Call 911. Don't get out of your car as you will be robbed also. The police will be there within 10 minutes. Best of luck to you.
 
Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.

Excellent!! That makes up for the 50+ people killed in Las Vegas last year, Repug goober!

You have to be the most ignorant piece of trash I have ever had the displeasure to meet. You where the kid who got picked on in school, weren’t you. You had the pocket protector and all.


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I guess. Except you haven't met me, Repug simpleton gun nut goober.

You would never meet me. You don’t have the balls to meet me. You also n ver did real work in your life. I come from a background of cops and firefighters. We had to save little pussy bitches like you. What do all the murder capitals and high crime rate states have in common. STRICT GUN LAWS. Do you research, I’m sorry research is too big a word for you to understand. Look and get the results moron.


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I’ll agree and disagree. Good people should be allowed to conceal carry yes but I think the gun industry needs to be more regulated as a whole.

For example that black couple who got caught with an Arsenal. I guess they could build up that arsenal legally over time but maybe we need to register every gun. Every sale needs to go through the police. I know the arguments against it but how does the kid in Florida get that kind of fire power?

Or when the kid in Florida was video tapped waving guns. That video should have been justification to take his guns.

Ultimately we Americans have to figure out what we are doing wrong.

And it’s not poor blacks or women or Mexicans or Muslims. It’s usually angry white men


The kid in Florida had one rifle, one shot gun and a pistol....he used 1 rifle for the attack.......the guy in vegas had hundreds of guns, he used 2 in the attack.

We already know what we are doing wrong......the police did not arrest the kid when he committed crimes at the school because of obama's Promise Program, they did not arrest the kid during 38 visits to his home, the school did not have him arrested when he brought knives and bullets to school and started fights with staff and students......he should have been committed to a mental institution, as they wanted to do, but didn't, the FBI should have acted on two direct warnings that he planned to do a school shooting.....

That was the problem...not law abiding gun owners owning and carrying guns.....

The other problem...the major problem that actually is responsible for almost all gun murder in this country....democrat policies that continue to release violent gun criminals from jail and prison over and over again.......that is the problem in this country, not law abiding gun owners...


You guys refuse to even see the actual problem, because you hate guns and those who own them legally........and that is why gun killers, who the democrats keep letting out of jail, keep shooting people.....

And the truth......our gun crime is going down as more Americans own and carry guns....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 
Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.

Excellent!! That makes up for the 50+ people killed in Las Vegas last year, Repug goober!

You have to be the most ignorant piece of trash I have ever had the displeasure to meet. You where the kid who got picked on in school, weren’t you. You had the pocket protector and all.


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I guess. Except you haven't met me, Repug simpleton gun nut goober.

You would never meet me. You don’t have the balls to meet me. You also n ver did real work in your life. I come from a background of cops and firefighters. We had to save little pussy bitches like you. What do all the murder capitals and high crime rate states have in common. STRICT GUN LAWS. Do you research, I’m sorry research is too big a word for you to understand. Look and get the results moron.


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I’ll agree and disagree. Good people should be allowed to conceal carry yes but I think the gun industry needs to be more regulated as a whole.

For example that black couple who got caught with an Arsenal. I guess they could build up that arsenal legally over time but maybe we need to register every gun. Every sale needs to go through the police. I know the arguments against it but how does the kid in Florida get that kind of fire power?

Or when the kid in Florida was video tapped waving guns. That video should have been justification to take his guns.

Ultimately we Americans have to figure out what we are doing wrong.

And it’s not poor blacks or women or Mexicans or Muslims. It’s usually angry white men


There is no need to register guns...and Florida shows why.....they should have committed this guy to a mental institution, the way they wanted 2 years ago...that would have allowed the police to search his home.......if they had arrested him for bringing bullets to school as a minor, they could have searched his home for guns.....if they had arrested him during one of the 38 visits to his home for disturbances, they could have searched his home for guns.....if the FBI had acted on 2 specific warnings about this shooter, they could have searched his home for guns....;

We don't need to register the guns of people who have done nothing wrong...we don't search for guns for people who are known, violent threats.....

And according to Haynes v. United States, criminals do not have to register their illegal guns...so why on earth would we make normal, law abiding people register their guns....?

Haynes v. United States - Wikipedia

In a 7-1 decision, the Court ruled in 1968 in favor of Haynes. Earl Warren dissented in a one sentence opinion and Thurgood Marshalldid not participate in the ruling.

As with many other 5th amendment cases, felons and others prohibited from possessing firearms could not be compelled to incriminate themselves through registration.[1][2] The National Firearms Act was amended after Haynes to make it apply only to those who could lawfully possess a firearm.
 
Here's the deal.

In the UK there are not many guns. Which means not many incidences of violent crime get stopped.

In the US there are lots of guns, which means many incidences of violent crime might get stopped.

Which means, when the UK and US have similar violent crime levels, that the US has FAR, FAR more levels of attempted crime compared to the UK.

And why? Because the politicians don't bother to solve any of the problems in society and you people keep voting for the same two lame political parties who enrich themselves.

You might as well vote for Pepsi or Coca-Cola at the next election, doesn't make any difference.

Great rationalization, simpleton.

The fact is Australia had a serious gun problem 20 years ago. They were smart, they banned guns, and now their gun murder problems are 99% over.

Those are the facts, whether a dishonest Repug like you wants to accept them or not.
No they didn't

They had one mass shooting and went off the rails and started confiscating guns
 
Yep....a suburban concealed carry visiting the crap hole of Chicago stopped Chicago thugs from beating someone and robbing them...

Notice.....3 attackers stopped and ran away because the good guy had a gun.....

Notice...this was stopped and no shots were fired.....

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.

Excellent!! That makes up for the 50+ people killed in Las Vegas last year, Repug goober!


Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals.....you asswipe......

and lawnmowers kill more people every year than mass shooters do....you dumbass....

And the shooter in Vegas used 2 rifles, fired over 1,000 rounds of ammo into a tightly packed crowd of over 22,000 people from a concealed and fortified position...

He killed 58 people.

A muslim terrorist drove a rental truck into a crowd in Nice, France.

He killed 86 people...

So, dumb ass, what weapon was more deadly, the gun or the truck.....

You are a dumb ass.

1,500,000 times per year!!! That's amazing, Repug goober!! I can't believe we have any senseless gun shootings with over a million people per year being saved!!

What a fucking retard.
You don't seem to understand a gun can be used in self defense or in defense of another and not be fired.
 
So, those well organized militia patrols in areas around schools are even more evidently justified. Good guys with guns all around should bring school shootings to a halt. And there would seem to be more than enough 'good guys' around with more than enough armament. Where are they?
 

Yep, for every "heroic" act, there are 10 times more senseless gun accidents that get people killed. But don't try to explain that to an idiot Repug like this imbecile OP.


Dumb shit....please do basic research before you post...otherwise you will show us all how stupid you are....

600 million guns in private hands.....over 17 million people carry guns for self defense......

How many actual, accidental deaths according to the CDC? You know, real numbers, not numbers pulled out of your ass?

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016

Gun.....495

Car.......38,748

poisoning......58,335

falling.......34,673

suffocation...6,610

drowning......3,786

From YOUR SOURCE, see the .pdf file on page 12:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr65/nvsr65_04.pdf

In 2014, 33,594 died from firearm injuries in the United States, accounting for 16.8% of all injury deaths in that year.

You're full of crap and YOU LOSE, Repug gun Nazi.
you don't realize that the injury number included murder, intentional crime and self harm do you
 
So, those well organized militia patrols in areas around schools are even more evidently justified. Good guys with guns all around should bring school shootings to a halt. And there would seem to be more than enough 'good guys' around with more than enough armament. Where are they?

Gun owners have no obligation to patrol any neighborhood
 
Excellent!! That makes up for the 50+ people killed in Las Vegas last year, Repug goober!

You have to be the most ignorant piece of trash I have ever had the displeasure to meet. You where the kid who got picked on in school, weren’t you. You had the pocket protector and all.


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I guess. Except you haven't met me, Repug simpleton gun nut goober.

You would never meet me. You don’t have the balls to meet me. You also n ver did real work in your life. I come from a background of cops and firefighters. We had to save little pussy bitches like you. What do all the murder capitals and high crime rate states have in common. STRICT GUN LAWS. Do you research, I’m sorry research is too big a word for you to understand. Look and get the results moron.


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I’ll agree and disagree. Good people should be allowed to conceal carry yes but I think the gun industry needs to be more regulated as a whole.

For example that black couple who got caught with an Arsenal. I guess they could build up that arsenal legally over time but maybe we need to register every gun. Every sale needs to go through the police. I know the arguments against it but how does the kid in Florida get that kind of fire power?

Or when the kid in Florida was video tapped waving guns. That video should have been justification to take his guns.

Ultimately we Americans have to figure out what we are doing wrong.

And it’s not poor blacks or women or Mexicans or Muslims. It’s usually angry white men


There is no need to register guns...and Florida shows why.....they should have committed this guy to a mental institution, the way they wanted 2 years ago...that would have allowed the police to search his home.......if they had arrested him for bringing bullets to school as a minor, they could have searched his home for guns.....if they had arrested him during one of the 38 visits to his home for disturbances, they could have searched his home for guns.....if the FBI had acted on 2 specific warnings about this shooter, they could have searched his home for guns....;

We don't need to register the guns of people who have done nothing wrong...we don't search for guns for people who are known, violent threats.....

And according to Haynes v. United States, criminals do not have to register their illegal guns...so why on earth would we make normal, law abiding people register their guns....?

Haynes v. United States - Wikipedia

In a 7-1 decision, the Court ruled in 1968 in favor of Haynes. Earl Warren dissented in a one sentence opinion and Thurgood Marshalldid not participate in the ruling.

As with many other 5th amendment cases, felons and others prohibited from possessing firearms could not be compelled to incriminate themselves through registration.[1][2] The National Firearms Act was amended after Haynes to make it apply only to those who could lawfully possess a firearm.
So we need to be more aggressive taking people like this 2nd amendment away. And if we do we need to change the law so he can’t go buy a gun at a gun show or online
 
Did you know that 70% of all the murders in this country are concentrated in distinct and small areas of just 5% of all counties?
Did you know that those 70% of murders are mostly young urban minorities killing other young urban minorities ?
Did you know that in those same counties there are large areas with virtually no murders?
Did you know that 54% of all counties in the US have a murder rate of virtually zero?

We do not have a gun problem or a murder problem in this country

We have an urban violence problem

Get a handle on that and the murder will drop to a rate comparable to any country.

Why don't we do it?

We don't give a shit if urban minorities kill each other that's why.
 

Yep, for every "heroic" act, there are 10 times more senseless gun accidents that get people killed. But don't try to explain that to an idiot Repug like this imbecile OP.
Care to prove that with actual numbers?

Already did, goober. See my previous post about thousands of gun accident deaths each year.
 
Here's the deal.

In the UK there are not many guns. Which means not many incidences of violent crime get stopped.

In the US there are lots of guns, which means many incidences of violent crime might get stopped.

Which means, when the UK and US have similar violent crime levels, that the US has FAR, FAR more levels of attempted crime compared to the UK.

And why? Because the politicians don't bother to solve any of the problems in society and you people keep voting for the same two lame political parties who enrich themselves.

You might as well vote for Pepsi or Coca-Cola at the next election, doesn't make any difference.

Great rationalization, simpleton.

The fact is Australia had a serious gun problem 20 years ago. They were smart, they banned guns, and now their gun murder problems are 99% over.

Those are the facts, whether a dishonest Repug like you wants to accept them or not.
No they didn't

They had one mass shooting and went off the rails and started confiscating guns

Good for them. Australia is much smarter than we are. That's why they have very few shootings now compared to the U.S.

At least you're admitting that gun bans DO WORK, unlike most of these Repug goobers.
 

Yep, for every "heroic" act, there are 10 times more senseless gun accidents that get people killed. But don't try to explain that to an idiot Repug like this imbecile OP.


Dumb shit....please do basic research before you post...otherwise you will show us all how stupid you are....

600 million guns in private hands.....over 17 million people carry guns for self defense......

How many actual, accidental deaths according to the CDC? You know, real numbers, not numbers pulled out of your ass?

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016

Gun.....495

Car.......38,748

poisoning......58,335

falling.......34,673

suffocation...6,610

drowning......3,786

From YOUR SOURCE, see the .pdf file on page 12:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr65/nvsr65_04.pdf

In 2014, 33,594 died from firearm injuries in the United States, accounting for 16.8% of all injury deaths in that year.

You're full of crap and YOU LOSE, Repug gun Nazi.
you don't realize that the injury number included murder, intentional crime and self harm do you

Regardless, you don't realize that's a ridiculously high number, do you?
 

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