Confederate Memorial at Arlington will be removed despite GOP opposition

[BrokeLoser]

No one has to think of racist old confederate fucks anymore.

I like that

I agree…all the time and energy should be spent fighting criminality in all of America’s dark shitholes.

 

[hadit]

"Re-writing"?....Sure, re-writes happen all the time as new facts emerge, more complete scholarship develops. It has been ever such.
But "eliminate history" ???
What do you have in mind there?

The recasting of Confederate soldiers who were fully pardoned and welcomed back as full citizens of the US as the devil incarnate and worthy only of elimination from history.

Again, just exactly what or who are you alluding to in such a broad statement?

If you would have read through the thread, you would have seen that the person to whom I was responding is seeking to destroy not only the memory of confederate soldiers, but their entire culture.

I'm not so sure.
If any statue celebrates or honors Confederate heroes then it has no place on public property in the United States of America. That's not to say that such statues must not exist, they can. But on private property only.

They were pardoned and treated just the same as any veteran of the US military (They are, for example, buried at Arlington. Do you want to dig them up and scatter their bones to the wind?). It was done to reconcile the Southern states back into the Union, not make them perpetual outcasts, forced to stay in the union but treated like dirt so that 21st century snowflakes can feel good about themselves. So, no, Confederate monuments can be on public property, as they were part of American history. History doesn't stop when the Civil War ended, there is a lot we can still learn from about reconciliation. Listening to the usual suspect today, you'd think there can never be any reconciliation in their books, just continued stomping.

 

[hadit]

The abortion issue is not going away anytime soon. See Kate Cox's story and the increasing number of other ones to come.

Inflation is tamed and the stock market is soaring.

Be sure to remind everyone of that when the recession hits. They always do.

 

[otto105]

You can shove that "race card" up your ass...sideways.

Its about history and respect, not racism.

You Trotskyites don't even realize it's a reconciliation monument. Duh.

Bullshit, almost all those monuments were erected decades later and served as a reminder to minorities that jim crow would keep the white people in power.

It's the reason you fuckups fight our history thru denial of CRT and the 1619 Project.

History.....sure fuckup

 

[BrokeLoser]

Statues honoring USA's war opponents do not belong in American national cemeteries. The statue would be appropriate at prisoner of war camp cemeteries that the USA established for captured CSA soldiers.

Wouldn’t our great founders have issued medals of honor to Confederates?
Didn’t they want The People to take up arms against a tyrannical government?

 

[Robert W]

Who wants to bring back slavery?

He is lying about the Rs wanting slavery. When I am discussing the civil war, that is not even on my mind. Why? 630,000 troops died and they were white and the union guys fought because they were forced to and the South also were forced when the North invaded VA. In the north they got out of fighting by paying what amounted to a Tax and then a new person would go fight.

 

[bendog]

Confederate Memorial at Arlington will be removed despite GOP opposition
Though dozens of congressional Republicans protested the move, the Army says it will begin work in coming days

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The U.S. Army intends to remove a Confederate memorial from Arlington National Cemetery next week as part of its ongoing work to rid Defense Department property of divisive rebel imagery, defying dozens of congressional Republicans who have vociferously protested the move.





Why would Republicans object to the removal of Confederate monuments if the Confederates were Democrats???

It's just another propaganda piece to rehabilitate the treatment of blacks in the early 20th century. The taxpayers didn't build this. It's trash, like all "white wash" by the DOC

Confederate Memorial (Arlington National Cemetery) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Chillicothe]

as the devil incarnate and worthy only of elimination from history.

forced to stay in the union but treated like dirt so that 21st century snowflakes can feel good about themselves.

With no dis-respect....the above is nonsense.
Nobody in the 1860's, nor the 1920's was contemplating anything such as your imagined '21st century snowflakes' being righteous about statues to traitors.
You are letting your avatar's imagination make you appear less than what you probably are.

So, no, Confederate monuments can be on public property, as they were part of American history

We must not celebrate and honor those people and their cause that sought to destroy America and continue keeping people in bondage for their economic benefit. Their practices of slavery, and their willingness to fight for it.....was wrong then, and is wronger today. So to speak.

Listening to the usual suspect today, you'd think there can never be any reconciliation in their books, just continued stomping.

Like above, that is just silliness talking. Conspiracy nonsense.
You can be better, and should be better.

 

[kaz]

With no dis-respect....the above is nonsense.
Nobody in the 1860's, nor the 1920's was contemplating anything such as your imagined '21st century snowflakes' being righteous about statues to traitors.
You are letting your avatar's imagination make you appear less than what you probably are.

We must not celebrate and honor those people and their cause that sought to destroy America and continue keeping people in bondage for their economic benefit. Their practices of slavery, and their willingness to fight for it.....was wrong then, and is wronger today. So to speak.


Like above, that is just silliness talking. Conspiracy nonsense.
You can be better, and should be better.

Democrats have completely changed since the Civil War. Then you wanted all blacks to be slaves. Now you just want slavery for Latina women and girls, MAGA man

 

[Robert W]

Bullshit, almost all those monuments were erected decades later and served as a reminder to minorities that jim crow would keep the white people in power.

It's the reason you fuckups fight our history thru denial of CRT and the 1619 Project.

History.....sure fuckup

At the time of the Democrats erecting those monuments, they were coming out of a bad depression and had been trampled down a lot by the Feds. It was a way to recover any pride they had. At least for some this is the case.
CRT is bullshit. the 1619 project is also a con job.

 

[otto105]

I agree…all the time and energy should be spent fighting criminality in all of America’s dark shitholes.

Like West Virginia and it's white trailer trash opioid addiction.

 

[otto105]

At the time of the Democrats erecting those monuments, they were coming out of a bad depression and had been trampled down a lot by the Feds. It was a way to recover any pride they had. At least for some this is the case.
CRT is bullshit. the 1619 project is also a con job.

Aw bob, is the history of white racism uncomfortable for you. Maybe you should move to florida.

 

[otto105]

He is lying about the Rs wanting slavery. When I am discussing the civil war, that is not even on my mind. Why? 630,000 troops died and they were white and the union guys fought because they were forced to and the South also were forced when the North invaded VA. In the north they got out of fighting by paying what amounted to a Tax and then a new person would go fight.

Hilarious bob.

Have your ever even studied the Civil War?

 

[Curried Goats]

The recasting of Confederate soldiers who were fully pardoned and welcomed back as full citizens of the US as the devil incarnate and worthy only of elimination from history.

That's not a rewriting of history you soft little snowflake it's just a different perspective than yours.

If you would have read through the thread, you would have seen that the person to whom I was responding is seeking to destroy not only the memory of confederate soldiers, but their entire culture.

And? I don't feel ashamed advocating for the cultural extermination of America's equivalent to nazis. Confederates weren't any better. Using men, women and children as your own personal property is monstrous. But I noticed how quite your bitch ass gets in defense of that.

They were pardoned and treated just the same as any veteran of the US military (They are, for example, buried at Arlington. Do you want to dig them up and scatter their bones to the wind?). It was done to reconcile the Southern states back into the Union, not make them perpetual outcasts, forced to stay in the union but treated like dirt so that 21st century snowflakes can feel good about themselves.

That was then, this is now. Just because Argentina welcomed Nazis doesnt mean we cant prosecute those pieces of shits now when we find them. The first amendment gives you lot freedom to express your own thoughts but here you demand we defer to the beliefs of others. You go ahead and stop thinking for yourself if you want to you fucking Simp.

So, no, Confederate monuments can be on public property, as they were part of American history.

Only if you maintain your political power.

History doesn't stop when the Civil War ended, there is a lot we can still learn from about reconciliation. Listening to the usual suspect today, you'd think there can never be any reconciliation in their books, just continued stomping.

You reconcile with Nazis. We choose to shit on them.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Like West Virginia and it's white trailer trash opioid addiction.

White trash like their drugs…but not nearly as much as dark people do.
White trash shitholes are fairly safe…why do broke dark people have to wreak havoc on the public with off the charts level of criminality? Do savages just have to savage?

Overdose Deaths Caused by Opioids in Combination with Stimulants Hit Black Communities Hardest

New NYU Langone research finds opioid and stimulant overdose deaths rose by more than three times the rate among Black Americans. Learn more.

nyulangone.org

 

[Zincwarrior]

Bullshit, almost all those monuments were erected decades later and served as a reminder to minorities that jim crow would keep the white people in power.

It's the reason you fuckups fight our history thru denial of CRT and the 1619 Project.

History.....sure fuckup

The monument under discussion was affixed in 1914 by the Daughters of the Confederacy.

 

[BlindBoo]

Bullshit, almost all those monuments were erected decades later and served as a reminder to minorities that jim crow would keep the white people in power.

It's the reason you fuckups fight our history thru denial of CRT and the 1619 Project.

History.....sure fuckup

The monument, designed by sculptor Moses Ezekiel, was erected in 1914 with congressional approval at the cemetery located across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C.

University of Maryland historian Leslie Rowland told NPR and WBUR's Here and Now that funds for the memorial were raised by the United Daughters of the Confederacy, which existed largely to "vindicate Confederate soldiers and other members of the Confederate generation." They did so by "putting forward a sanitized, romanticized version of the pre-Civil War South," Rowland said.

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/18/1219896375/confederate-memorial-arlington-national-cemetery-dismantled#:~:text=The%20monument%2C%20designed%20by%20sculptor,Potomac%20River%20from%20Washington%2C%20D.C.

Put it in a museum dedicated to man's inhumanity to man where it belongs.

 

[otto105]

White trash like their drugs…but not nearly as much as dark people do.
White trash shitholes are fairly safe…why do broke dark people have to wreak havoc on the public with off the charts level of criminality? Do savages just have to savage?

Overdose Deaths Caused by Opioids in Combination with Stimulants Hit Black Communities Hardest

New NYU Langone research finds opioid and stimulant overdose deaths rose by more than three times the rate among Black Americans. Learn more.

nyulangone.org

Total bullshit.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Aw bob, is the history of white racism uncomfortable for you. Maybe you should move to florida.

All sane people who like data know that a racist America is a much safer, more law-abiding, cleaner, more prosperous, less dependent, more unified, more likeminded America….Do such FACTS make you feel uncomfortable?

 

[kyzr]

Having your bodily autonomy taken away from you will do that.

What is Bidenomics and what would Republicans do differently?

I don't think the polls are off, I think they're accurate snapshots of the electorate as it stands today. Trump voters are enthusiastic about voting for Trump and Biden voters aren't really enthusiastic about voting for him for good reason. I think that as we get closer to the election enthusiasm for voting against Trump among Democrats will rise.

1. Agreed. Republicans need to back the fuck off of the abortion issue.

2. Bidenomics is what Biden calls his economic agenda. The War on Oil, the Green Agenda, pushing EVs, open borders letting in 8,000,000 more mouths to feed, runaway inflation, etc. Trump said he would "drill baby drill" like he did his 1st term.

3. Also agree. Maybe we should quit while we're ahead? LOL.