Confederate statue removed from historic North Carolina courthouse

[Pogo]

Helms, Gramm, Lott, Shelby weren't in the Senate in 1964.

I NEVER SAID THEY WERE you FUCKING ILLITERATE HACK.

Exactly, Pogo claimed Lott was involved in the filibuster of the CRA

BULLSHIT. I said *NO SUCH THING*. Prove me wrong LIAR.

FUCK outta here.

 

[bdtex]

The problem is with displays at a county courthouse celebrating the Confederacy

It's not a problem. Alabama got it right.

Alabama Supreme Court rules on Birmingham Confederate monument

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The South has always been CONSERVATIVE.

Look at the Governors of Alabama.

You mean like George Wallace?

Exactly.

This George Wallace?

Nape. The George Wallace who was actually active in politics.

"I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill. The liberal left-wingers have passed it. Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., to figure out what to do with it."

But your quote from much later in his life is an inspiring reminder that people can change. Thanks for that.

The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.

You hate the fact that black citizens have the same rights as white citizens. Tough shit.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Do you understand the fucking stupidity of a Nazi analogy, and pretending that 12 percent is the same as fucking ZERO POINT TWO percent?

I mean, I was talking to RW. He is the fucking moron that made that comparison, and stood by it. And that is the conversation you jumped into. If you want to comment on his fucking stupid post, then address his fucking stupid post.


I am discussing the rest of this issue, in the rest of this thread. THIS bit, is about the stupid shit you people say, and me calling you on it.

If you don't want to discuss how fucking stupid you libs are, when you just use buzz words, with no understanding of what the words actually mean, because you are fucking retarded,

THEN DON'T.

What you fucking don't fucking underfuckingstand in this fuckingly fucked analogy, is that fucking bad actors don't fucking all fucking work the same fucking way. Just because fucking Nazis fucking dealt in fucking genocide while fucking slaveholders fucking enslaved people, doesn't fucking affuckingfect the fucking fact that fucking Germany doesn't fucking hang up fucking statues and fucking monuments trying to fucking dilute and fucking sanitize and fucking whitewash the fucking inhufuckingmanity of their own fucking past, as do the fucking UDC edifices. Fucking both of them lost their fucking wars, did they fucking not?

Goodness gracious, that is a specious comparison.

And you are doing the same stupid fucking thing that rw and supercrackhead are doing. Pretending that some very minor similarity, means that they should have been dealt with the exact same way, and that if not, it is some sort of problem.


My point stands. There are good reasons for the way that we, here in America, dealt with the aftermath of the Civil War, and just saying "nazis" is not a good analogy, and in fact, is fucking stupid, and if you do that, then you are fucking stupid.



If you continue, I will point out some of the other many ways that the two sets of people are very different, and the two situations are very different, and thus, how incredibly fucking stupid you are.

NAZIS is not a good analogy ONLY because the Third Reich lasted twice as long as the loser Con-federacy did......maybe if the Con-federacy leaders had be held responsible in war crime trials like the leading NAZIS did, we wouldn't have had the Lost Cause Movement.

The analogy is flying over Purell's hood because he keeps trying to compare "the Nazis" with "the Confederates" instead of the real point of comparison, which is to compare "what the Lost Cause tried to do about the Confederacy's image" with "what Germany did NOT try to do with the Nazi image".

There is no comparison to “National Socialist “ of Nazi, Germany and the free-market agrarian society of Antebellum South.

There is definitely a comparison in the mistreatment of human beings.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

What Democrats of those days were also conservative, racist.

Conservatives have never been in favor of church bombings. Where did you get the idea they were?

The South has always been CONSERVATIVE.

As far as Alabama, they were certainly leftist for many years, going for the FDR Raw Deal 4 times in succession, voted for Wilson, Cox, Adlai E Stevenson, Al Smith, etc. All the liberal candidates.

Look at the Governors of Alabama.

You mean like George Wallace?

What you want a statue for him now.

Just making the point that he was elected in the deep south, after he flipped on the segregation issue, with a base in the rural white poor.


Just another example of real history conflicting with the leftard fantasy that history was all about race.

If he ran today it would be as a republican.

 

[Polishprince]

Conservatives have never been in favor of church bombings. Where did you get the idea they were?

The South has always been CONSERVATIVE.

As far as Alabama, they were certainly leftist for many years, going for the FDR Raw Deal 4 times in succession, voted for Wilson, Cox, Adlai E Stevenson, Al Smith, etc. All the liberal candidates.

Look at the Governors of Alabama.

You mean like George Wallace?

What you want a statue for him now.

Just making the point that he was elected in the deep south, after he flipped on the segregation issue, with a base in the rural white poor.


Just another example of real history conflicting with the leftard fantasy that history was all about race.

If he ran today it would be as a republican.

George C. Wallace was a lot like fellow southerner and Democrat Slick Willy Clinton. Wallace was prohibited from succeeding himself as governor, so he had his old lady ran as a proxy in the 1960's.

Clinton was prohibited from another term as POTUS, so he had his old lady run in the same way.

 

[rightwinger]

This George Wallace?

Nape. The George Wallace who was actually active in politics.

"I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill. The liberal left-wingers have passed it. Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., to figure out what to do with it."

But your quote from much later in his life is an inspiring reminder that people can change. Thanks for that.

The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.

The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.

Lincoln was one of the biggest liberals of his day.
That is why the south seceded

Lincoln never advocated for Socialized Medicine or recognizing men in dresses as "broads".

What makes you think he was a lib? In actuality, Honest Abe- the proto-ditto-head, wanted to get black people off of the Democrat plantations.

WTF???

 

[rightwinger]

The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.

The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.

Lincoln was one of the biggest liberals of his day.
That is why the south seceded

If he could see what society looks like now...he would never had did what he did.

This land mass would be much better off if euros "had never did what they did".

Built this nation. Wrote the Constitution. Freed the slaves. Won two world wars and passed Civil Rights Act of 1964 and put a man on the Moon. Yep...white people are so bad.

Freed the slaves from who?
Other white men?

 

[rightwinger]

Nape. The George Wallace who was actually active in politics.

"I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill. The liberal left-wingers have passed it. Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., to figure out what to do with it."

But your quote from much later in his life is an inspiring reminder that people can change. Thanks for that.

The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.

The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.

Lincoln was one of the biggest liberals of his day.
That is why the south seceded

Lincoln never advocated for Socialized Medicine or recognizing men in dresses as "broads".

What makes you think he was a lib? In actuality, Honest Abe- the proto-ditto-head, wanted to get black people off of the Democrat plantations.

I'm guessing he thinks Lincoln was a lib because he was a warmonger and hated State's rights.

Liberal views of Lincoln

Abolition
human rights
Worker protections

 

[Polishprince]

The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.

The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.

Lincoln was one of the biggest liberals of his day.
That is why the south seceded

Lincoln never advocated for Socialized Medicine or recognizing men in dresses as "broads".

What makes you think he was a lib? In actuality, Honest Abe- the proto-ditto-head, wanted to get black people off of the Democrat plantations.

I'm guessing he thinks Lincoln was a lib because he was a warmonger and hated State's rights.

Liberal views of Lincoln

Abolition
human rights
Worker protections

I've always been in favor of Abolition, RW.

Remember, we Poles freed the slave in 1347 - long before America.

And I certainly believe in protecting workers from Predatory unions with strict Right to Work laws. Slavery is forcing people to work and that is wrong. But so is not allowing someone to work

 

[rightwinger]

The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.

Lincoln was one of the biggest liberals of his day.
That is why the south seceded

Lincoln never advocated for Socialized Medicine or recognizing men in dresses as "broads".

What makes you think he was a lib? In actuality, Honest Abe- the proto-ditto-head, wanted to get black people off of the Democrat plantations.

I'm guessing he thinks Lincoln was a lib because he was a warmonger and hated State's rights.

Liberal views of Lincoln

Abolition
human rights
Worker protections

I've always been in favor of Abolition, RW.

Remember, we Poles freed the slave in 1347 - long before America.

And I certainly believe in protecting workers from Predatory unions with strict Right to Work laws. Slavery is forcing people to work and that is wrong. But so is not allowing someone to work

Did you believe those things in 1860?
Lincoln did

 

[Polishprince]

Lincoln was one of the biggest liberals of his day.
That is why the south seceded

Lincoln never advocated for Socialized Medicine or recognizing men in dresses as "broads".

What makes you think he was a lib? In actuality, Honest Abe- the proto-ditto-head, wanted to get black people off of the Democrat plantations.

I'm guessing he thinks Lincoln was a lib because he was a warmonger and hated State's rights.

Liberal views of Lincoln

Abolition
human rights
Worker protections

I've always been in favor of Abolition, RW.

Remember, we Poles freed the slave in 1347 - long before America.

And I certainly believe in protecting workers from Predatory unions with strict Right to Work laws. Slavery is forcing people to work and that is wrong. But so is not allowing someone to work

Did you believe those things in 1860?
Lincoln did

The blacks in Poland were already free for more than 500 years by 1860. The Polish Lincoln, Casimir the Great, signed their emancipation in the great year of 1347

 

[Pogo]

Lincoln never advocated for Socialized Medicine or recognizing men in dresses as "broads".

What makes you think he was a lib? In actuality, Honest Abe- the proto-ditto-head, wanted to get black people off of the Democrat plantations.

I'm guessing he thinks Lincoln was a lib because he was a warmonger and hated State's rights.

Liberal views of Lincoln

Abolition
human rights
Worker protections

I've always been in favor of Abolition, RW.

Remember, we Poles freed the slave in 1347 - long before America.

And I certainly believe in protecting workers from Predatory unions with strict Right to Work laws. Slavery is forcing people to work and that is wrong. But so is not allowing someone to work

Did you believe those things in 1860?
Lincoln did

The blacks in Poland were already free for more than 500 years by 1860. The Polish Lincoln, Casimir the Great, signed their emancipation in the great year of 1347

Oh poster please. Transitioning to serfdom ---- after most of Europe had already done so I might add ---- doesn't make you Lincoln. But it is interesting that you consider the peak of the Black Plague to be a "great year".

But back TO Lincoln and labor rights:

​

(SOTU speech December 3 1861, linked behind the Googly Image).


/STILL offtopic

 

[rightwinger]

Lincoln never advocated for Socialized Medicine or recognizing men in dresses as "broads".

What makes you think he was a lib? In actuality, Honest Abe- the proto-ditto-head, wanted to get black people off of the Democrat plantations.

I'm guessing he thinks Lincoln was a lib because he was a warmonger and hated State's rights.

Liberal views of Lincoln

Abolition
human rights
Worker protections

I've always been in favor of Abolition, RW.

Remember, we Poles freed the slave in 1347 - long before America.

And I certainly believe in protecting workers from Predatory unions with strict Right to Work laws. Slavery is forcing people to work and that is wrong. But so is not allowing someone to work

Did you believe those things in 1860?
Lincoln did

The blacks in Poland were already free for more than 500 years by 1860. The Polish Lincoln, Casimir the Great, signed their emancipation in the great year of 1347

If that is the case.....move the statues to Poland

 

[Pogo]

I'm guessing he thinks Lincoln was a lib because he was a warmonger and hated State's rights.

Liberal views of Lincoln

Abolition
human rights
Worker protections

I've always been in favor of Abolition, RW.

Remember, we Poles freed the slave in 1347 - long before America.

And I certainly believe in protecting workers from Predatory unions with strict Right to Work laws. Slavery is forcing people to work and that is wrong. But so is not allowing someone to work

Did you believe those things in 1860?
Lincoln did

The blacks in Poland were already free for more than 500 years by 1860. The Polish Lincoln, Casimir the Great, signed their emancipation in the great year of 1347

If that is the case.....move the statues to Poland

They can be sent on ships, lined up in the cargo hold head to foot. And if one breaks in a storm you can just toss it in the drink. Upon arrival the can go to market for auction to be owned for life.

 

[Correll]

You mean like George Wallace?

What you want a statue for him now.

Just making the point that he was elected in the deep south, after he flipped on the segregation issue, with a base in the rural white poor.


Just another example of real history conflicting with the leftard fantasy that history was all about race.

When Wallace ran for president, why didn't he run as a Democrat??

Oh I remember...because he would have been rejected....

Can you tell me the liberal policies that Wallace ran on??

I really do get tired of having to slap the shit out of closet racists with facts...but I got time today.....

"But by the fall of 1968, George Wallace had pulled the major parties to the right" <<-- liberals don't pull both parties to the right do they??

"Republican presidential nominee Richard Nixon conceded the Deep South to him and came up with a “southern strategy” designed to appeal to white backlash over civil rights." <<-- Who were the ones pissed off at the civil rights movement?? Liberals or Conservatives??

"[Wallace] boasted of his crowd sizes; complained of “rigged polls” and accused the media of treating him unfairly, all while working to ensure the spotlight stayed on him." Like Trump....

His platform was very much conservative, instead of "Make America Great Again" -- Wallace named his campaign "Stand Up For America" -- and his supporters were known for saying things like “When George Wallace is elected president, he’s going to line up all these n-----s and shoot them,’’ Tom Turnipseed recalled. “I said, ‘Oh, hell no’ … this guy was dead serious.”

Stand Up For America: George Wallace's chaotic, prophetic campaign

We have seen this before...and we have also seen how folks like you will blatantly try to rewrite that history because once again, you are on the wrong side of it....sounds like a personal problem to me

Why did you not address my point, about what happened after he flipped on that issue?

I have 50 years of policy and facts that tells what happened.....

50 years later, it is the Republican party (CONSERVATIVES) who are still butt hurt about the civil rights movement....

50 years later, it is the Republican party (CONSERVATIVES) who are still trying to gut the Voting Rights Act....

50 years later, it is the Republican party (CONSERVATIVES) who are still trying to pass policies that discriminate against minority groups....

Now, who are these prominent conservatives who were standing along side of MLK during the civil rights movement?

Dude. George Wallace was one of the greatest segregationists in our history, and AFTER he flipped on that issue, he ran for the governor ship of a deep south state and won, with his base being, according to you fucktards, the most racist demographic in the country.


That is a powerful historical example that challenges your bullshit narrative about how supposedly "racist" America or the GOP is.


You need to explain why that does NOT prove that America is not racist, or admit that you are just a subhuman troll boy, who likes the taste when he spews shit from his face anus.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So, are all the statues of the traitors who fought for slavery gone yet? No? Give it time...

 

[Polishprince]

So, are all the statues of the traitors who fought for slavery gone yet? No? Give it time...

There were no traitors, President Johnson exonerated the confederates for treason. And Jimmy Carter exonerated the last rebel, Jeff Davis, posthumously in 1978.

 

[Correll]

You mean like George Wallace?

Exactly.

This George Wallace?

Nape. The George Wallace who was actually active in politics.

"I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill. The liberal left-wingers have passed it. Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., to figure out what to do with it."

But your quote from much later in his life is an inspiring reminder that people can change. Thanks for that.

The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.

The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.

They were radicals in their desire to conserve the Enlightenment Era ideals of the Founding Fathers.


Today, we republicans are still the same.


Meanwhile, you dems then and now are doing all you can to destroy that.



Do you believe in God Given Rights?

 

[Nostra]

Helms, Gramm, Lott, Shelby weren't in the Senate in 1964.

I NEVER SAID THEY WERE you FUCKING ILLITERATE HACK.

Exactly, Pogo claimed Lott was involved in the filibuster of the CRA

BULLSHIT. I said *NO SUCH THING*. Prove me wrong LIAR.

FUCK outta here.

When another one of you Dimwinger half wits claimed a bunch of "Dixiecrats" who filibustered the Civil Rights Act flipped to the Republican party you posted this:

Dimwingers are working overtime today on their revisionist history.

Your party is the party of Jim Crow, filibustering the Civil Rights Act, electing KKK Leaders as Senate Majority Leader, and the formation of the KKK.

No known political party members were involved in the forming of the KKK, which point we did here seven hundred posts ago as well as over and over and over and over and over and over and over through the years here. Oh and that includes BOTH KKKs, the original one of 1865 and the much larger one of 1915. Now some historians will say there was a third KKK in 1949, that one actually never got off the ground but if you count that, no party for that guy either.

As for KKK and elections, here's some homework for ya.

1. Owen Brewster
2. Rice Means
3. Ed Jackson
4. D.C. Stephenson
5. Ben Paulen
6. George Luis Baker
7. Albert Johnson
8. Clarence Morley
9. Herbert Hoover
10. Calvin Coolidge

Guess the political party, win a prize. The prize is you get to go back and read the early part of the thread where this shit was debunked, complete with pictures.

You don't assign me homework, fool.

Robert KKK Byrd, Grand Kleagle of the KKK and Dem Senator until 2010,

Which party filibustered the Civil Rights Act?

oops!

The Dixiecrats who flipped Republican over civil rights hissyfits.

When did Robert C. Byrd, Al Gore Sr., or J William Fulbright flip to the GOP? How about Stennis, or Eastland, or Orval E. Faubus?

Actually, virtually none of the Dems who filibustered Civil Rights switched to the GOP.

BULLSHIT. Thurmond was the first to do so, in September 1964.

You remember Thurmond? Trent Lott said if he'd been elected "we wouldn't have had all these problems down through all these years". Oh yeah Lott switched too.

Now, since I know what a lying hack asshat you are I can tell you what your dumbfuck spin will be: "I didn't say Lott filibustered the CYA"

But I will tell you know that bullshit won't fly because you posted that while quoting multiple quotes discussing who switched because of the CRA.

You lose again, liar.