Congress can exclude or admit any foreigner it wants, for any reason or no reason

[bodecea]

In other words, Trump proposed a perfectly legal, perfectly Constitutional idea. Naturally, we're not supposed to know about Carter actually doing it.

Legal does not necessarily mean "Constitutional." Many laws have been found to be unconstitutional.

Did you bother to read the OP? SCOTUS has said congress has the exclusive authority on what foreigners may be allowed to enter the country.

Ok....so how does one determine whether a foreigner is a "muslim" or not?

 

[Timmy]

Trump was clear , he said ALL Muslims . He didn't qualify wh "refugees" or even "immigrants" . He said ALL. That would include ex pats and those wh legal status .

 

[g5000]

In other words, Trump proposed a perfectly legal, perfectly Constitutional idea. Naturally, we're not supposed to know about Carter actually doing it.

Legal does not necessarily mean "Constitutional." Many laws have been found to be unconstitutional.

Did you bother to read the OP? SCOTUS has said congress has the exclusive authority on what foreigners may be allowed to enter the country.

Ok....so how does one determine whether a foreigner is a "muslim" or not?

Look for the horns on their head.

 

[Timmy]

National Review gets the truth out over all the talking heads and the bullshit establishment GOP. Others "get it". Like Rupert Murdoch who says that the refugee program needs to pause and reviews have to be taken to get it right.

Grow up assholes. We're living in dangerous times.

"First of all, it’s important to underline that Congress can exclude or admit any foreigner it wants, for any reason or no reason.

Non-Americans have no constitutional right to travel to the United States and no constitutional due-process rights to challenge exclusion; as the Supreme Court has written multiple times,

“Whatever the procedure authorized by Congress is, it is due process as far as an alien denied entry is concerned.”

What’s more, while the president doesn’t have the authority that Obama has claimed, to let in anyone he wants for any reason (under the guise of “parole”), he does have the statutory authority to keep anyone out, for any reason he thinks best.

From 8 USC §1182: Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate (emphasis added)."

Read more at: It's Time for a Grown-Up Alternative to Trump's Crude Muslim-Immigration Proposal, by Mark Krikorian, National Review

So...how do we check for Muslim-ism?

Everyone who enters the U.S. Has to eat a strip of bacon.

 

[jknowgood]

The solution is easy just stop all immigration

We do not need any more people in this country

And then when we do start allowing people in again we should be much more discriminating who we let in

We don't need any more unskilled uneducated people in this country and anyone wanting to immigrate should have some sort of skill we deem desirable and should have to prove they can support themselves

Yeah...fuck what our country has always stood for...

From 1924 to 1965 there was hardly no immigration

 

[bodecea]

In other words, Trump proposed a perfectly legal, perfectly Constitutional idea. Naturally, we're not supposed to know about Carter actually doing it.

Legal does not necessarily mean "Constitutional." Many laws have been found to be unconstitutional.

Did you bother to read the OP? SCOTUS has said congress has the exclusive authority on what foreigners may be allowed to enter the country.

Ok....so how does one determine whether a foreigner is a "muslim" or not?

Look for the horns on their head.

Apparently........

 

[bodecea]

National Review gets the truth out over all the talking heads and the bullshit establishment GOP. Others "get it". Like Rupert Murdoch who says that the refugee program needs to pause and reviews have to be taken to get it right.

Grow up assholes. We're living in dangerous times.

"First of all, it’s important to underline that Congress can exclude or admit any foreigner it wants, for any reason or no reason.

Non-Americans have no constitutional right to travel to the United States and no constitutional due-process rights to challenge exclusion; as the Supreme Court has written multiple times,

“Whatever the procedure authorized by Congress is, it is due process as far as an alien denied entry is concerned.”

What’s more, while the president doesn’t have the authority that Obama has claimed, to let in anyone he wants for any reason (under the guise of “parole”), he does have the statutory authority to keep anyone out, for any reason he thinks best.

From 8 USC §1182: Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate (emphasis added)."

Read more at: It's Time for a Grown-Up Alternative to Trump's Crude Muslim-Immigration Proposal, by Mark Krikorian, National Review

So...how do we check for Muslim-ism?

Everyone who enters the U.S. Has to eat a strip of bacon.

But don't Muslims lie? We keep getting told that muslims lie.

And what if they come in claiming to be Jewish?

 

[JakeStarkey]

In other words, Trump proposed a perfectly legal, perfectly Constitutional idea. Naturally, we're not supposed to know about Carter actually doing it.

Legal does not necessarily mean "Constitutional." Many laws have been found to be unconstitutional.

Carter didn't have any difficulty with it being unconstitutional when he did it.

He did not exclude based on religion. Congress can pass such a law or a President can EO such a law, and SCOTUS will end either.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

You are as goofy as your pretend enemies.

 

[Seawytch]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

 

[hadit]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

The difference being, that for some Muslims, living and worshiping as they like involves killing in gruesome ways those around them who do not join them in worship. Christians, not so much.

 

[bodecea]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

The difference being, that for some Muslims, living and worshiping as they like involves killing in gruesome ways those around them who do not join them in worship. Christians, not so much.

And thank goodness for our secular laws.

 

[Seawytch]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

The difference being, that for some Muslims, living and worshiping as they like involves killing in gruesome ways those around them who do not join them in worship. Christians, not so much.

Here in America?

 

[hadit]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

The difference being, that for some Muslims, living and worshiping as they like involves killing in gruesome ways those around them who do not join them in worship. Christians, not so much.

And thank goodness for our secular laws.

Which by and large are based on Biblical ideals.

 

[hadit]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

The difference being, that for some Muslims, living and worshiping as they like involves killing in gruesome ways those around them who do not join them in worship. Christians, not so much.

Here in America?

The more radical a person becomes in following Christ, the less likely they are to kill their neighbors.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

The difference being, that for some Muslims, living and worshiping as they like involves killing in gruesome ways those around them who do not join them in worship. Christians, not so much.

And thank goodness for our secular laws.

Which by and large are based on Biblical ideals.

And deism and secular ethos.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

The difference being, that for some Muslims, living and worshiping as they like involves killing in gruesome ways those around them who do not join them in worship. Christians, not so much.

Here in America?

The more radical a person becomes in following Christ, the less likely they are to kill their neighbors.

Tell that to Jim Jones and David Koresh's followers.

 

[OKTexas]

In other words, Trump proposed a perfectly legal, perfectly Constitutional idea. Naturally, we're not supposed to know about Carter actually doing it.

Legal does not necessarily mean "Constitutional." Many laws have been found to be unconstitutional.

Did you bother to read the OP? SCOTUS has said congress has the exclusive authority on what foreigners may be allowed to enter the country.

Ok....so how does one determine whether a foreigner is a "muslim" or not?

Congress would need to figure that out, wouldn't they. Personally I'd ban all of them, until there is a verifiable vetting system in place. You know verifying the small things, like making sure the address on the application is a real one, which is something this administration didn't do on the bitch that killed all the folks in CA.

 

[OKTexas]

You gotta love the leftwing whackaloons... they rant on and on about Christians wanting a theocracy.. which we don't.. then they embrace Muslims whose religion is by definition a theocracy; a political system and religion rolled into one.

They're insane.

Why do you compare American Christians to Muslims from Muslim countries? American Muslims want the same things American Christians and Jews want...to live and worship as they like.

A majority of Republicans have stated they want Christianity declared our "National Religion". What is that if not the start of theocracy?

Really, then explain this.

When asked, more than 50 percent of American Muslims said that if given a the choice they would choose to be governed under Sharia Law:

Read more at Over 50 Percent of US Muslims Want Sharia Law in America