Conservatives, clean out your house

[WTH_Progs?]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

IMO you should lay off the bong or whatever else has led to your confusion.

 

[Mac1958]

Everything is THEIR fault. THOSE guys, over THERE. MY side is beautiful and pristine, and needs no improvement.

He didn't say that Mac. Shut it

I do love being told to "shut it" on the internet.

Go ahead and ask him if his "side" is doing anything wrong, and what must be done to fix it.

I've asked him multiple times on this thread and he won't respond. I've asked him on other threads and he won't respond.

Of course, I get the same evasive non-response from right wingers, too. Shocker!

Go ahead. I'll watch.

 

[SweetSue92]

Everything is THEIR fault. THOSE guys, over THERE. MY side is beautiful and pristine, and needs no improvement.

He didn't say that Mac. Shut it

I do love being told to "shut it" on the internet.

Go ahead and ask him if his "side" is doing anything wrong, and what must be done to fix it.

I've asked him multiple times on this thread and he won't respond. I've asked him on other threads and he won't respond.

Of course, I get the same evasive non-response from right wingers, too. Shocker!

Go ahead. I'll watch.

I said shut it because every post because Mac's Agenda. Whatever, sit on your mountain and sing your song, no one cares

 

[2aguy]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

Which conservatives would those be? Considering American Conservatives believe in "All Men are created equal...." and the rest of that whole "Bill of Rights" thing.

The only party that has its entire focus on race is the democrat party....all of it's core groups, it's entire leadership is obsessed with the color of people's skin......perhaps if you are concerned with actual racism...you should better focus your efforts on the democrats.....

The only ones going after nuns, bakers, pizza makers, wedding photographers for religious views are the democrats.......

The ones opposing Freedom of Speech and Protests, are the democrats and their antifa storm troopers.......

You should really think before you post.....

Freedom of the Press?....it is democrat tech giants shadow banning conservatives, demonetizing conservatives....declaring Pro-life groups "porn" so they won't show up in search menus........and the tech giants who are openly planning on censoring conservatives during the next election cycle......

Voter suppression? It was the racist President Obama who used the IRS to suppress Conservative non-profits during his tenure in office.....and used the other alphabet agencies to attack conservative groups....

 

[Mac1958]

Everything is THEIR fault. THOSE guys, over THERE. MY side is beautiful and pristine, and needs no improvement.

He didn't say that Mac. Shut it

I do love being told to "shut it" on the internet.

Go ahead and ask him if his "side" is doing anything wrong, and what must be done to fix it.

I've asked him multiple times on this thread and he won't respond. I've asked him on other threads and he won't respond.

Of course, I get the same evasive non-response from right wingers, too. Shocker!

Go ahead. I'll watch.

I said shut it because every post because Mac's Agenda. Whatever, sit on your mountain and sing your song, no one cares

You sure do.

At least you didn't try to refute my post.
.

 

[IM2]

Look at all the butthurt CINOS. I say what I do for a reason. For the first 33 years of my life I saw honest debates(outside of the one on race) between liberals and conservatives on the role of government. That's not the debate now. And CINOS only argue about the size of government when it comes to programs that help people who have been negatively affected by piss poor government policies in the past or currently which favor one population group. CINOS talk about "entitlements" like it's only something others ask for. They talk about how terrible it is for others to get government handout while begging for them.

For example, the election of Trump was based on so called working class whites feeling they have been left out. These whites tell us to stop begging the government and today are begging the government to bring jobs to them. When we ask for that, government is too big and we should start our own businesses instead of asking the government.

Real conservatives will admit to areas of need and help fix the problem. I know this because I live in a republican state and have worked with liberals and conservatives on issues facing the black community. No true conservative has ever talked the shit talked in places like this. I saw top conservatives in my state support a liberal candidate for governor because they could not support the CINOS draconian cuts to education and essential state services.

Real conservatives are leaving the republican party because they oppose the extremist agenda and crookedness of Trump. So imo, conservatives must reject extremists that have hijacked the term. For there is nothing wrong with working to check government excesses, but that's not what CINOS are doing. And if you don't think so, look at Trumps spending. Don't try talking about what Obama spent because most of his spending came early and it saved us from going under. Trump doesn't face that and still he is crazy spending..

 

[SweetSue92]

Look at all the butthurt CINOS. I say what I do for a reason. For the first 33 years of my life I saw honest debates(outside of the one on race) between liberals and conservatives on the role of government. That's not the debate now. And CINOS only argue about the size of government when it comes to programs that help people who have been negatively affected by piss poor government policies in the past or currently which favor one population group. CINOS talk about "entitlements" like it's only something others ask for. They talk about how terrible it is for others to get government handout while begging for them.

For example, the election of Trump was based on so called working class whites feeling they have been left out. These whites tell us to stop begging the government and today are begging the government to bring jobs to them. When we ask for that, government is too big and we should start our own businesses instead of asking the government.

Real conservatives will admit to areas of need and help fix the problem. I know this because I live in a republican state and have worked with liberals and conservatives on issues facing the black community. No true conservative has ever talked the shit talked in places like this. I saw top conservatives in my state support a liberal candidate for governor because they could not support the CINOS draconian cuts to education and essential state services.

Real conservatives are leaving the republican party because they oppose the extremist agenda and crookedness of Trump. So imo, conservatives must reject extremists that have hijacked the term. For there is nothing wrong with working to check government excesses, but that's not what CINOS are doing. And if you don't think so, look at Trumps spending. Don't try talking about what Obama spent because most of his spending came early and it saved us from going under. Trump doesn't face that and still he is crazy spending..

I was wiling to talk real issues but you're ignoring me. That does not surprise me in the least IM2. People on both ends of the extremes don't REALLY want to talk issues no matter what lip service they give. They just want to hear their opinions come out of your mouth (or typing fingers)

 

[airplanemechanic]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

Well I will agree with you about this: there are a lot of white supremacist racists on this forum, a surprising amount. If you just go by this forum you would think that all conservatives are hiding racist tendencies. But then, if I went by this site I might think a lot of black people really hate and resent whites too, and I know that's not true.

It's the Internet.

So that's for starters.

As for enders: I don't think it's conservatism that has so worry about becoming "a joke". We currently have the presidency, the Senate, and the Supreme Court. Democrats have the House but by a tenuous thread--there's a vicious fight as you must know. Not only that, but you have a weak group of contenders for president here in 2020. So I really don't think conservatism is the "joke" here.

I will address only a small part of your post. You said conservatives have the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court was never intended to be a political part of the government any more than the police were intended to be political. The law is the law, and should apply to all equally, and any court rulings should be based on that law, and not which political candidate the justices might support. I fear Trump's appointees will not base their decisions to the law.

Well you need to get your fears back to reality. Kav has already ruled against the republicans on the SCOTUS.

Do research.

 

[Deno]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

We would all be better off without lying racist like yourself.

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS...

Did you ever question that, of course not because it’s all one way with you.

Trump is not a racist....

The vast majority of his supporters are not racist....

The most racist people I have ever known were all democrats.

All of your lies are blowing up in your faces

 

[IM2]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

We would all be better off without lying racist like yourself.

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS...

Did you ever question that, of course not because it’s all one way with you.

Trump is not a racist....

The vast majority of his supporters are not racist....

The most racist people I have ever known were all democrats.

All of your lies are blowing up in your faces

Obama did not go to a racist church.

Trump is a racist.

And so are republicans like you.

 

[Correll]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

The Right is not just Conservatives and Racist. you moron.


Your desire to see the Right split is noted. Now fuck off.

 

[IM2]

Mammy help me. Da' white man iz gonna' takes my job.

We keep getting told that people like you are a thing of the past.

This is the politics section Jethro. I understand that your 6th grade education didn't include reading. Now go on and rustle up some critters for vittles.

 

[Deno]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

We would all be better off without lying racist like yourself.

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS...

Did you ever question that, of course not because it’s all one way with you.

Trump is not a racist....

The vast majority of his supporters are not racist....

The most racist people I have ever known were all democrats.

All of your lies are blowing up in your faces

Obama did not go to a racist church.

Trump is a racist.

And so are republicans like you.

You are a liar!

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS.

 

[IM2]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

We would all be better off without lying racist like yourself.

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS...

Did you ever question that, of course not because it’s all one way with you.

Trump is not a racist....

The vast majority of his supporters are not racist....

The most racist people I have ever known were all democrats.

All of your lies are blowing up in your faces

Obama did not go to a racist church.

Trump is a racist.

And so are republicans like you.

You are a liar!

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS.

Obama never went to a racist church. Show evidence that he did.

You are about to get embarrassed.

 

[IM2]

Mammy help me. Da' white man iz gonna' takes my job.

We keep getting told that people like you are a thing of the past.

Why are you crying?

 

[Deno]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

We would all be better off without lying racist like yourself.

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS...

Did you ever question that, of course not because it’s all one way with you.

Trump is not a racist....

The vast majority of his supporters are not racist....

The most racist people I have ever known were all democrats.

All of your lies are blowing up in your faces

Obama did not go to a racist church.

Trump is a racist.

And so are republicans like you.

You are a liar!

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS.

Obama never went to a racist church. Show evidence that he did.

You are about to get embarrassed.

Another racist rant from Jeremiah Wright



Rev. Jeremiah Wright says "Jews" are keeping him from President Obama

TOP 25 QUOTES BY JEREMIAH WRIGHT | A-Z Quotes

 

[IM2]

Why are you crying?

That's you, tar baby.

Nah. But this is you.

 

[rjs330]

I don't know what either side is for anymore, other than against whatever the other side wants. Conservatives used to be for fiscal restraint, but not now. Liberals used to be for the poor and middle-class citizens, but now they're for the illegal immigrants. Nobody seems to give a damn about the best interests of the country, it's all about getting re-elected and gaining or keeping political power for your party. The country is coming in at best 3rd place. It's hard to see anything other than a full-on catastrophe changing the way things are, and in the meantime the debt grows larger and the SSA and Medicare funds get closer to insolvency. This is not the situation we want to leave for future generations, they're going to wonder WTF we were thinking. I'm kinda wondering that myself.

This is a lie.

No one is ‘for’ illegal immigrants.

Unlike most on the right, liberals understand and respect the rule of law, that because an immigrant might be undocumented doesn’t mean he’s ‘illegal,’ and that all persons in the United States are entitled to due process of the law – including those undocumented.

Indeed, this is what liberals are for – respecting the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law; respecting and defending our democratic institutions; and advocating for the rights and protected liberties of all Americans.

Reactionary conservatives are for fear and ignorance, they are purveyors of hate and division, conservatives oppose inclusion, diversity, and dissent and seek to compel conformity through force of law.

It’s the bane of conservativism that places America’s future in jeopardy.

That's not what your candidates say. They are for illegal immigrants. Everyone that comes here that doesn't come through legal channels is illegal. they are breaking the law. If you are strictly talking about those that are claiming asylum then you are right because asylum seekers are allowed by law to be here until their hearing. Everyone else that doesn't come through proper channels is illegal. And if you be elive that anyone who crosses the border not using the proper channels is not illegal then you don't know the law.

 

[IM2]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

We would all be better off without lying racist like yourself.

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS...

Did you ever question that, of course not because it’s all one way with you.

Trump is not a racist....

The vast majority of his supporters are not racist....

The most racist people I have ever known were all democrats.

All of your lies are blowing up in your faces

Obama did not go to a racist church.

Trump is a racist.

And so are republicans like you.

You are a liar!

obozo went to a RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS.

Obama never went to a racist church. Show evidence that he did.

You are about to get embarrassed.

Another racist rant from Jeremiah Wright



Rev. Jeremiah Wright says "Jews" are keeping him from President Obama

TOP 25 QUOTES BY JEREMIAH WRIGHT | A-Z Quotes

Let's start off by saying Jews are not a race. He said nothing racist in that first link. He was talking about blacks. And your sources..

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None of those 25 quotes were racist. And instead of using soundbites from that punk racist O'Reilly



The truth is what you call racist.

 

[BULLDOG]

Conservatism has become a joke. The term has been hijacked. In this forum there are perhaps a few real, legitimate conservatives. The rest are right wing or alt right racists. Conservatism is not about using the force of government to deny rights. Nor is conservatism about using the force of government to deny, expression, peaceful protest, religious liberty, free speech, freedom of the press, equal protection of all Americans, voter suppression or almost everything most conservatives here endorse.

Maybe it's time for conservatives to return to an emphasis on controlling excess government spending. Perhaps it's time to purge the conservative population of CINOS who want ethnic cleansing and a whites only nation.

Well I will agree with you about this: there are a lot of white supremacist racists on this forum, a surprising amount. If you just go by this forum you would think that all conservatives are hiding racist tendencies. But then, if I went by this site I might think a lot of black people really hate and resent whites too, and I know that's not true.

It's the Internet.

So that's for starters.

As for enders: I don't think it's conservatism that has so worry about becoming "a joke". We currently have the presidency, the Senate, and the Supreme Court. Democrats have the House but by a tenuous thread--there's a vicious fight as you must know. Not only that, but you have a weak group of contenders for president here in 2020. So I really don't think conservatism is the "joke" here.

I will address only a small part of your post. You said conservatives have the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court was never intended to be a political part of the government any more than the police were intended to be political. The law is the law, and should apply to all equally, and any court rulings should be based on that law, and not which political candidate the justices might support. I fear Trump's appointees will not base their decisions to the law.

Well you need to get your fears back to reality. Kav has already ruled against the republicans on the SCOTUS.

Do research.

Kavanaugh didn't rule against republicans. He ruled for the constitution, and that just happened to be opposite of what republicans wanted. I guess even a yes man like Kavanaugh can't give them everything they want.

 

[rjs330]

Primarily rightwing fear – fear of change, fear of diversity, fear of inclusion, and fear of expressions of individual liberty.

It's the left that wants to squash individual liberty and freedom of expression. Look what's happening on YouTube, Facebook and Nike. It's the left that wants to shut down talk radio, remove crosses, shut down conservatve speakers from universities. The left wants to punish bakers who don't want to use their artistry to make a certain kind of wedding cake.

The left want only the things they agree with to be allowed. We conservatives love diversity, we will allow anyone into our conservative tent. You can be of any color, race, sexual orientation and you can even have some differing beliefs. We believe in the free expression and open discussion of differing ideas. It's the left that wants to shut that down and force you to believe what they believe and support what they believe or else.