Corporate welfare in action ....

[dblack]

There's no such thing as corporate welfare.

mmmkay

/----/ if the government writes a check to a company in exchange for moving to an area then that is corporate welfare. But if the government simply reduces the tax bill for a set time in exchange for the move it is not welfare.

micromanaging our tax codes for Individuals, is worse and could be considered, legally unethical, from a laissez-fair perspective. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Most of the right wing doesn't get free markets, or freedom.

/----/ Now that's dumb even by your low standards.

At least you're supporting my argument. Thanks!

 

[Brain357]

There's no such thing as corporate welfare.

mmmkay

/----/ if the government writes a check to a company in exchange for moving to an area then that is corporate welfare. But if the government simply reduces the tax bill for a set time in exchange for the move it is not welfare.

micromanaging our tax codes for Individuals, is worse and could be considered, legally unethical, from a laissez-fair perspective. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Most of the right wing doesn't get free markets, or freedom.

/----/ Now that's dumb even by your low standards.

It seems to be the right here defending corporate welfare which goes against the free market. Though I have given many links from those on the right who do understand how bad it is. For some reason those here would rather go against capitalism and the free market.

 

[dblack]

mmmkay

/----/ if the government writes a check to a company in exchange for moving to an area then that is corporate welfare. But if the government simply reduces the tax bill for a set time in exchange for the move it is not welfare.

micromanaging our tax codes for Individuals, is worse and could be considered, legally unethical, from a laissez-fair perspective. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Most of the right wing doesn't get free markets, or freedom.

/----/ Now that's dumb even by your low standards.

It seems to be the right here defending corporate welfare which goes against the free market. Though I have given many links from those on the right who do understand how bad it is. For some reason those here would rather go against capitalism and the free market.

These aren't genuine conservatives, and certainly not libertarians. I think most of them are just Trumpsters.

 

[Dschrute3]

Live by greed, die by greed. Americans are greedy folks for the most part. They're indoctrinated on it from the moment they're born. It was inevitable that large corporations take over the country. It's a 'Government/Corporate Complex' now.

For example, take a closer look at your American MSM some time. It's owned and controlled by just a handful of large corporations. And those few large corporations are in turn, in bed with your Government. It's where extreme perverted greed has taken us. You're gonna get the Government the few large corporations paid for. So, expect education to get worse, cost of living to get worse, jobs to get worse, and slavery to increase. I'm very sad stating that, but that is the future. Goodbye America. It was nice knowing ya.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Amazon will compete for business whether they have a distribution center here or in Arizona. It doesn't matter because they are not brick and mortar, so they could move in next door to mom and pop and have no effect on them whatsoever.

Our neighboring suburb built a brand new mall a few years ago. It was designed around Walmart because Walmart was the anchor store. The mall was doing great and a great place to shop until Walmart found a way out of their contract. They wanted to build a Super Walmart nearby but couldn't because of the store in the new mall.

After Walmart closed down, all those other stores in the mall began to close down as well. They all had contracts, but the contracts were null and void if the anchor store disappeared. Now that new mall is a wall of empty stores and empty parking lots because of Walmart's departure. There is only one store left and that is a grocery store which is still doing quite well.

Point is that while Walmart may close some other stores down, they open up twice as many in most cases. Walmart brings in customers to other stores as well as theirs.

You keep making wild claims right and left. Can you use some actual statistics?

So your mall was doing so great that Walmart moved out? Yeah sounds like a great situation. Obviously things weren't that great.

It was great, but Walmart wanted to open up a Super Walmart which they did after they closed the new store in the mall. It was located less than ten miles from their former store and opened up in less than a year after they closed the mall store.

/----/ You made it clear that WalMart wanted a larger store but it went over Brains head. (no pun intended)

And what proof is there of any of that? How do we know any of that even happened? How does Ray know why Walmart does anything? Is he an exec at Walmart? He's just telling silly stories which may or may not be true. Here is a story. Walmart gets lots of corporate welfare to move into a mall. The city spends a lot to create this mall and gives up lots of tax dollars in corp welfare. Walmart then moves ten miles away closing the store in the mall and killing the cities mall investment.

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

 

[Rustic]

Why should families pay welfare to billion dollar companies making huge profits?

If you add these altogether, you see that federal, state and local governments force American families to give, on average, $2436 per year to companies that certainly don’t need the handouts (or shouldn’t be in business if they do). That $2436 could go a long, long way for most families, whether it was spent on food and clothing, vacation, a college fund, or whatever mom, dad and the kids most need. Indeed, considering that the average American family spends around $6500 per year on food, eliminating these corporate subsidies and returning the savings to taxpayers could pay for about 4.5 months-worth of groceries.
Calculating the Real Cost of Corporate Welfare

Taking from someone to give to someone else does no one good... it's only for shallow minded shit bags

 

[Brain357]

You keep making wild claims right and left. Can you use some actual statistics?

So your mall was doing so great that Walmart moved out? Yeah sounds like a great situation. Obviously things weren't that great.

It was great, but Walmart wanted to open up a Super Walmart which they did after they closed the new store in the mall. It was located less than ten miles from their former store and opened up in less than a year after they closed the mall store.

/----/ You made it clear that WalMart wanted a larger store but it went over Brains head. (no pun intended)

And what proof is there of any of that? How do we know any of that even happened? How does Ray know why Walmart does anything? Is he an exec at Walmart? He's just telling silly stories which may or may not be true. Here is a story. Walmart gets lots of corporate welfare to move into a mall. The city spends a lot to create this mall and gives up lots of tax dollars in corp welfare. Walmart then moves ten miles away closing the store in the mall and killing the cities mall investment.

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

 

[Rustic]

Live by greed, die by greed. Americans are greedy folks for the most part. They're indoctrinated on it from the moment they're born. It was inevitable that large corporations take over the country. It's a 'Government/Corporate Complex' now.

For example, take a closer look at your American MSM some time. It's owned and controlled by just a handful of large corporations. And those few large corporations are in turn, in bed with your Government. It's where extreme perverted greed has taken us. You're gonna get the Government the few large corporations paid for. So, expect education to get worse, cost of living to get worse, jobs to get worse, and slavery to increase. I'm very sad stating that, but that is the future. Goodbye America. It was nice knowing ya.

The only way to have any sort of freedom and individuality is to consider people's financial affairs off-limits to the federal government. The village/collective is a fucked up concept... and should be treated as such

 

[Rustic]

It was great, but Walmart wanted to open up a Super Walmart which they did after they closed the new store in the mall. It was located less than ten miles from their former store and opened up in less than a year after they closed the mall store.

/----/ You made it clear that WalMart wanted a larger store but it went over Brains head. (no pun intended)

And what proof is there of any of that? How do we know any of that even happened? How does Ray know why Walmart does anything? Is he an exec at Walmart? He's just telling silly stories which may or may not be true. Here is a story. Walmart gets lots of corporate welfare to move into a mall. The city spends a lot to create this mall and gives up lots of tax dollars in corp welfare. Walmart then moves ten miles away closing the store in the mall and killing the cities mall investment.

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

It's none of anyone's business what Walmart makes, stocking shelves takes no skill and should be paid as such. Fuck the collective it's for weak minded fools...

 

[Brain357]

/----/ You made it clear that WalMart wanted a larger store but it went over Brains head. (no pun intended)

And what proof is there of any of that? How do we know any of that even happened? How does Ray know why Walmart does anything? Is he an exec at Walmart? He's just telling silly stories which may or may not be true. Here is a story. Walmart gets lots of corporate welfare to move into a mall. The city spends a lot to create this mall and gives up lots of tax dollars in corp welfare. Walmart then moves ten miles away closing the store in the mall and killing the cities mall investment.

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

It's none of anyone's business what Walmart makes, stocking shelves takes no skill and should be paid as such. Fuck the collective it's for weak minded fools...

The point being that many are claiming corporate welfare gives great benefits to the area. I think it is clear it is not only very costly, but there are no real benefits. Walmart can afford to expand it's business without government help.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It was great, but Walmart wanted to open up a Super Walmart which they did after they closed the new store in the mall. It was located less than ten miles from their former store and opened up in less than a year after they closed the mall store.

/----/ You made it clear that WalMart wanted a larger store but it went over Brains head. (no pun intended)

And what proof is there of any of that? How do we know any of that even happened? How does Ray know why Walmart does anything? Is he an exec at Walmart? He's just telling silly stories which may or may not be true. Here is a story. Walmart gets lots of corporate welfare to move into a mall. The city spends a lot to create this mall and gives up lots of tax dollars in corp welfare. Walmart then moves ten miles away closing the store in the mall and killing the cities mall investment.

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare.

Yup. So if they fire the welfare recipients, how much will government save on welfare spending?
Show me.

How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town?

Mom and pop stores paid big bucks? Sears, Kmart, Montgomery Ward paid big bucks? Are you sure?

 

[Rustic]

And what proof is there of any of that? How do we know any of that even happened? How does Ray know why Walmart does anything? Is he an exec at Walmart? He's just telling silly stories which may or may not be true. Here is a story. Walmart gets lots of corporate welfare to move into a mall. The city spends a lot to create this mall and gives up lots of tax dollars in corp welfare. Walmart then moves ten miles away closing the store in the mall and killing the cities mall investment.

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

It's none of anyone's business what Walmart makes, stocking shelves takes no skill and should be paid as such. Fuck the collective it's for weak minded fools...

The point being that many are claiming corporate welfare gives great benefits to the area. I think it is clear it is not only very costly, but there are no real benefits. Walmart can afford to expand it's business without government help.

People generally get the paid what they deserve, stocking shelves, flipping burgers and the like are beginner jobs and should never be considered careers...

 

[Brain357]

/----/ You made it clear that WalMart wanted a larger store but it went over Brains head. (no pun intended)

And what proof is there of any of that? How do we know any of that even happened? How does Ray know why Walmart does anything? Is he an exec at Walmart? He's just telling silly stories which may or may not be true. Here is a story. Walmart gets lots of corporate welfare to move into a mall. The city spends a lot to create this mall and gives up lots of tax dollars in corp welfare. Walmart then moves ten miles away closing the store in the mall and killing the cities mall investment.

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare.

Yup. So if they fire the welfare recipients, how much will government save on welfare spending?
Show me.

How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town?

Mom and pop stores paid big bucks? Sears, Kmart, Montgomery Ward paid big bucks? Are you sure?

So you respond with questions. Do you think we should go against capitalism to provide corporate welfare for Walmart?

 

[Brain357]

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

It's none of anyone's business what Walmart makes, stocking shelves takes no skill and should be paid as such. Fuck the collective it's for weak minded fools...

The point being that many are claiming corporate welfare gives great benefits to the area. I think it is clear it is not only very costly, but there are no real benefits. Walmart can afford to expand it's business without government help.

People generally get the paid what they deserve, stocking shelves, flipping burgers and the like are beginner jobs and should never be considered careers...

Walmart can do whatever they want. I think we agree the government shouldn't be picking winners and losers.

 

[dblack]

The point being that many are claiming corporate welfare gives great benefits to the area. I think it is clear it is not only very costly, but there are no real benefits. Walmart can afford to expand it's business without government help.

Whether a given incentive benefits or harms specific people are groups isn't the point. The problem is that these policies are bad government. No government, at any level, should be allowed to tailor its laws to cater to specific people or businesses. The law is required to be universal and apply to everyone equally. Governments are using targeted tax breaks, and other legislative 'tweaking' , as bargaining chips to manipulate the economy. This goes against every principle of free markets. Conservatives who support it are hypocrites if they also claim to support free markets. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And what proof is there of any of that? How do we know any of that even happened? How does Ray know why Walmart does anything? Is he an exec at Walmart? He's just telling silly stories which may or may not be true. Here is a story. Walmart gets lots of corporate welfare to move into a mall. The city spends a lot to create this mall and gives up lots of tax dollars in corp welfare. Walmart then moves ten miles away closing the store in the mall and killing the cities mall investment.

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

4 Examples Of Corporate Welfare In Action | Taxpayers for Common Sense

A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare.

Yup. So if they fire the welfare recipients, how much will government save on welfare spending?
Show me.

How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town?

Mom and pop stores paid big bucks? Sears, Kmart, Montgomery Ward paid big bucks? Are you sure?

So you respond with questions. Do you think we should go against capitalism to provide corporate welfare for Walmart?

So you respond with questions.

You can't answer?
Is it because you don't know?
Or would an honest answer highlight the stupidity of the claim?

Do you think we should go against capitalism to provide corporate welfare for Walmart?

If you're talking about the control tower, privatize it. Privatize all the control towers.
If you're talking about welfare being a subsidy for WalMart, answer my questions first.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The point being that many are claiming corporate welfare gives great benefits to the area. I think it is clear it is not only very costly, but there are no real benefits. Walmart can afford to expand it's business without government help.

Whether a given incentive benefits or harms specific people are groups isn't the point. The problem is that these policies are bad government. No government, at any level, should be allowed to tailor its laws to cater to specific people or businesses. The law is required to be universal and apply to everyone equally. Governments are using targeted tax breaks, and other legislative 'tweaking' , as bargaining chips to manipulate the economy. This goes against every principle of free markets. Conservatives who support it are hypocrites if they also claim to support free markets. You can't have it both ways.

The law is required to be universal and apply to everyone equally.

Sounds like we should have a flat tax for individuals.

 

[Brain357]

Oh and on top of that walmart pays so little its employees are collecting welfare:
1. Wal-Mart
The nation’s largest retail outlet is passing its tax bill down to the American public in more ways than one.
A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs. While boasting the necessity for low-wages, the corporation was essentially handing down costs to taxpayers in the form of publicly-funded health insurance and food assistance programs.

A more blatant example of Wal-Mart’s delight in public funds came through a taxpayer-funded control tower at an airport that houses Wal-Mart’s cargo corporate fleet. According to Bloomberg News, a spending bill approved in 2011 halted measures that would have taken away government-funded controllers for Wal-Mart’s jets in Rogers, Arkansas.

Airports the size of Rogers Municipal Airport in Arkansas typically aren’t required to have their own control towers. But because the airport hosts Wal-Mart’s fleet, ushering in plenty of traffic, it is required to purchase the traffic controller, and pay costs associated with the airport that essentially serves as Wal-Mart’s own public (but really private) airport. The airport is slated to spend $81,000 this year for the tower.

Oh the benefits of corporate welfare.

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A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare.

Yup. So if they fire the welfare recipients, how much will government save on welfare spending?
Show me.

How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town?

Mom and pop stores paid big bucks? Sears, Kmart, Montgomery Ward paid big bucks? Are you sure?

So you respond with questions. Do you think we should go against capitalism to provide corporate welfare for Walmart?

So you respond with questions.

You can't answer?
Is it because you don't know?
Or would an honest answer highlight the stupidity of the claim?

Do you think we should go against capitalism to provide corporate welfare for Walmart?

If you're talking about the control tower, privatize it. Privatize all the control towers.
If you're talking about welfare being a subsidy for WalMart, answer my questions first.

I simply don't have the time to play your silly games where you never answer anything and respond with questions. The bottom line is corporate welfare is against capitalism and the free market. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

 

[Brain357]

The point being that many are claiming corporate welfare gives great benefits to the area. I think it is clear it is not only very costly, but there are no real benefits. Walmart can afford to expand it's business without government help.

Whether a given incentive benefits or harms specific people are groups isn't the point. The problem is that these policies are bad government. No government, at any level, should be allowed to tailor its laws to cater to specific people or businesses. The law is required to be universal and apply to everyone equally. Governments are using targeted tax breaks, and other legislative 'tweaking' , as bargaining chips to manipulate the economy. This goes against every principle of free markets. Conservatives who support it are hypocrites if they also claim to support free markets. You can't have it both ways.

The law is required to be universal and apply to everyone equally.

Sounds like we should have a flat tax for individuals.

Sometimes I think that would make the rich pay more than they do now.

 

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A University of California Berkeley report indicates the corporation’s low-wage jobs were costing the state an estimated $86 million in taxpayer-funded public assistance programs.

I love this moronic claim.
If WalMart fired all of their employees who participate in "taxpayer-funded public assistance programs", how much would spending on those programs decline?

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare. How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town? Walmart shouldn't be given other incentives. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

Walmart is making billions while workers are paid so little they still collect welfare.

Yup. So if they fire the welfare recipients, how much will government save on welfare spending?
Show me.

How many better paying jobs did Walmart run out of town?

Mom and pop stores paid big bucks? Sears, Kmart, Montgomery Ward paid big bucks? Are you sure?

So you respond with questions. Do you think we should go against capitalism to provide corporate welfare for Walmart?

So you respond with questions.

You can't answer?
Is it because you don't know?
Or would an honest answer highlight the stupidity of the claim?

Do you think we should go against capitalism to provide corporate welfare for Walmart?

If you're talking about the control tower, privatize it. Privatize all the control towers.
If you're talking about welfare being a subsidy for WalMart, answer my questions first.

I simply don't have the time to play your silly games where you never answer anything and respond with questions. The bottom line is corporate welfare is against capitalism and the free market. Government should not be picking winners and losers.

The bottom line is corporate welfare is against capitalism and the free market.

The bottom line is that the government paying poor people is not corporate welfare.

Government should not be picking winners and losers.

Is the government only paying poor people who work at WalMart and not ones who work at Target?
Or do all people under a certain income level receive benefits?
If the answer is all, then the government is not picking winners and losers.