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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Jezebel was the Queen of the Jews. Her husband was King Ahab. Two real gems. God turned her into dog shit.

Jezebel was the Queen of the Jews. Her husband was King Ahab. Two real gems. God turned her into dog shit.

And you actually believe that?

 

[irosie91]

I don't have to dig deep, you are so elementary. A lack of love, justice, mercy, faithfulness....were the main complaints ...

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

ROFLMAO written by Matthew ---another roman
shill who was "APPOINTED" to a lucrative job
for his faithfulness to ROME. For the record--
neither mint, dill or cumin was subject to tithe.
----it is reasonable to believe that Matthew
included them in his rant in order to reveal that
he was writing BULLSHIT

 

[The Irish Ram]

And you actually believe that?

God hated that woman so much He wouldn't allow her to be buried in His earth. They threw her body out in the street and she was eaten by dogs:

2 Kings 9:10 As for Jezebel, dogs will devour her on the plot of ground at Jezreel, and no one will bury her.’”

 

[irosie91]

Jezebel was the Queen of the Jews. Her husband was King Ahab. Two real gems. God turned her into dog shit.

she was a gentile, who the person recognized as an
idiot---to wit, AHAB---brought into his house.
against the advice of DA PHARISEES. Neither she
nor Ahab is a saint in Judaism as is uncle adolf and
bitch Isabella and Magda of the Cyanide

 

[irosie91]

God hated that woman so much He wouldn't allow her to be buried in His earth. They threw her body out in the street and she was eaten by dogs:

2 Kings 9:10 As for Jezebel, dogs will devour her on the plot of ground at Jezreel, and no one will bury her.’”

actually ----GAWD did not do that----jews did.
Jellybean lady really screwed your mind

 

[BreezeWood]

Is Yeshua/Jesus The prophesied one, The Messiah?​

In Jn. 5:39 he claimed he was the promised one the Messiah.That all scripture is written of him. How can we know he spoke the truth, how can we check what is being said. Well we need to look at the genealogy the family tree or line since the Messiah has a very specific lineage. From the beginning God established the genealogy and gave us its record so it would be one of the ways to identify him.

Gen.3:15 tells us he would be from the seed of the woman. This is the only place this is mentioned since the seed is from the man. It also says he would crush (conquer) the serpents head. He would overcome Satan who introduced sin to mankind. This is all fulfilled by the virgin birth in Mt.1:16,18

Gen.9:26 tells us Canaan was cursed and Shem was blessed (Shem = name, Semitic people of the name) So he would come through the people of the name.

Gen 12:1-3, 7 says he would come from the line of Abraham. So then this means the messiah needs to be a physical descendant of Abraham eliminating all other family lines. (Matt.1:1, Gal.3:8, 14, 16)

Both Jews, Christians and Muslims are identified with the seed of Abraham. Abraham is told that in his seed all nations will be blessed. Gen.17:18-21, 21:12 Abraham had two sons Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael is from Hagar who is from Ham (Egyptian). |So now in Gen. 26 he separates the two and now he must come through Isaac (Heb.11:17-19). But then we find that Isaac had two sons Esau and Jacob (Numb.24:17-19)so then God eliminates another line by saying he will come through Jacob not Esau. So we find now that the messiah comes from the Jewish line as it narrows from Abraham Isaac to Jacob. Jacob had twelve sons of which only one would be picked so eleven are eliminated Gen 49 It gets even narrower that the Messiah had to come from the tribe of Judah. This is found in Genesis 49 (Matt.1:2 , Heb. 7:14-17)

He will come from the tribe of Judah who is the 4th son of Jacob through Leah. so does not come through Rachel.Gen.29:35

He will come from the tribe of Judah which eliminates 11 other tribes. But not any tribe in Judah Isa.11:1 tells us from the many lines of Judah it would be from the line of Jesse. Yet he had 8 sons so 7 need to be eliminated . Jesse was the father of David 2 Sam. 7:12-17, ps.89:20-29, 35-36. The Messiah is to come through the house of David . The book of Matthew written to Jews makes the point that Jesus would come from the line of David who is from the line of Abraham (Mt.1:1).

Then the line narrows even further where we find the Messiah will come from the line of Solomon who was David's son. 1 Chron.22:9 ;28:4-5 David had at the least 17 children but God chose only one, the son of David and Bathsheba.Ps.132:11 the fruit of David's body will be set upon the throne. (Romans 1:3 Messiahs of the seed of David)

In Matthews account four woman are mentioned Tamar, Rahab, Ruth and Bathsheba. Tamar and Rahab were harlots, Bathsheba committed adultery and Rahab and Ruth were Gentiles. Women are rarely mentioned in the lineage records. These are for good reason, to show The birth would not be dependent on mans goodness and that he came to save sinners Gentiles as well Jews.

Mary was a descendent from David through his son Nathan. Jesus could not be the real son of Joseph or he would have come from the line of Coniah. Jeremiah 22:24 tells us the line of Coniah son of Jehoiakim is cursed (Jeconiah the Je is left off his name because it relates to the name Lord .He was so evil it was left off). The decree was that no descendent of this wicked king would prosper (vs.30). If Jesus were the actual son of joseph he would have been under this curse. the virgin birth solves all this. Joseph adopts Jesus as his step father and he inherits the legal right to the throne. The word ' of the' appears in all the genealogies listed in the book of Luke except one, that is of Joseph. This exception to this is because of his line connected to Jer.22. He is included because of his marriage to Mary. Matthews genealogy makes it clear as it is not attributed to Joseph but Mary.

Location

The family line was established but now we need to go to the location. God specifically picked one place, Bethlehem, for the Messiah to be born Mic.5:2. So now even if one is born somewhere else from the line of David he can’t be the Messiah. Nazareth or Jerusalem is eliminated Mt.2:1. There were two Bethlehem's. This Town was given to the tribe of Judah it was the place where King David was born it is the "house of bread". How fitting that the bread of life would come from this house. But this is a particular area in Bethlehem , Ephratah (the sheepfold) which narrows the possibilities even more. This is where the shepherds watched over their flocks as we see them doing when the angel comes to them and announces their Kings birth.

How will he be born ?

He will be born of a virgin without any human father, the seed of the woman Isa.7:14 (MT.1:22-23) and also from David's line. Joseph adopted him and Jesus becomes the legal heir to the throne.

Now lets go to the time of his coming.

He will be born before the tribe of Judah loses its identity.

Gen 49:10 - "The scepter shall not depart from Judah nor the rulers staff from between his feet until the SHILO comes and to Him be the obedience of the people." Shilo was one of the places the Ark of the Covenant dwelt .

Every tribe of Israel had its own scepter a staff with its name inscribed on it. The scepter represents its judicial authority . The removal of the scepter occurred when Herod the Great, who was not a Jew became King and the Sanhedrin had its power limited. Both of these happened during the lifetime of Jesus. The name Shiloh is synonymous with the name of the Messiah ( Talmud Sanh.98B) It means WHO IS IT. So according to this prophecy the Messiah had to come before the scepter was removed from Judah. Numbers 24:17 "I see Him, but not now; I behold Him, but not near; a Star shall come out of Jacob; a Scepter shall rise out of Israel, and batter the brow of Moab, and destroy all the sons of tumult." This is a vision which spans over 1,500 years. This star was not something seen in the sky, but a person coming from the lineage of Jacob who has glory. Jacob who birthed Israel the nation, Salvation will come from the Jews.

But there is even more facts from scripture to define the time of his coming Dan.9:24-27 tells us the Messiah will appear before the destruction of the city of Jerusalem and the temple which occurred In 70 AD. Daniel received his prophecy after the first destruction of the temple in 586 BC. so Daniels writing in 9:24-27 of the Messiah appearing, of being "cut off" was future. The city would be destroyed afterward along with its genealogical records. So whoever is going to be Messiah must come before this all transpires. The record shows 483 years from 445 B.C. and before the destruction of the 2nd temple in 70 AD.

Getting back to what God promised David when he dies, "I will raise up your descendant after you, who will come forth from you, and I will establish his kingdom (2 Samuel 7:12).

The first verse in the book of Matthew (New Testament) records the fulfillment of the prophecy of his coming from the house of David . The book of the generation of Jesus Christ the Son of David, the son of Abraham (Matthew 1:1)

The angel Gabriel appeared to Mary he announced Jesus’ birth also confirming the prophecy Luke 1:31,32 "You will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David."​

All the prophecies were fulfilled literally and exactly. They were literal people, literal places and fulfilled in the minutest of detail. Jesus did not control of any of these prophecies of where he was born nor did not choose his own parents or place of birth or who his mother was or the time. God the Father ordained all these specific events before the foundation of the world and slowly revealed them to man through the Jewish prophets by his Spirit.

The Scriptures are clear

Well we need to look at the genealogy the family tree or line since the Messiah has a very specific lineage. From the beginning God established the genealogy and gave us its record so it would be one of the ways to identify him.

beyond absurd - the only heavenly genealogy is a&e, which is everyone that has come after them ... cry a river.

- and you'll be worshiping the new british king as well ... good luck.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

God hated that woman so much He wouldn't allow her to be buried in His earth. They threw her body out in the street and she was eaten by dogs:

2 Kings 9:10 As for Jezebel, dogs will devour her on the plot of ground at Jezreel, and no one will bury her.’”

And you actually believe that. Wow.

 

[The Irish Ram]

ROFLMAO written by Matthew ---another roman
shill who was "APPOINTED" to a lucrative job
for his faithfulness to ROME. For the record--
neither mint, dill or cumin was subject to tithe.
----it is reasonable to believe that Matthew
included them in his rant in order to reveal that
he was writing BULLSHIT

Matthew>>> the corrupt Jewish tax collector turned disciple. BUT ROME! ROME!

Actually mint was and also rue if it was cultivated, not if it was wild...
Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

^ Oh and, notice who Christ was using as an example on how not to act...again.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus is top Jew. He was when He showed up in Jerusalem the first time and will be when He shows up in Jerusalem again regardless of your opinion of Him.

Do you not get who said you can't work your way into Heaven? You keep forgetting that I am not the author of the Bible. Jews are. You not believing what they said isn't going to change one word. And you hating me for repeating what they said is equally as useless. Is Jesus a good guy, like you described Him or is He a liar? According to Him, He's the Messiah. Your beef is with Him.
Shalom...

you continue to ignore what they are saying -

The term “original sin” is unknown to the Jewish Scriptures, and the Church’s teachings on this doctrine are antithetical to the core principles of the Torah and its prophets.

- again ram, who in the 1st century believed a&e sinned when all who lived then were jews -

and it certainly was not the exemplar.

a completely fabricated story they madeup in the 4th century. rather than the true journey for self determination a&e choose and a heavenly blessed decision.

 

[The Irish Ram]

actually ----GAWD did not do that----jews did.
Jellybean lady really screwed your mind

Your brain is the size of a jelly bean. A ROMAN jellybean!!!!!! Look Out!!!

 

[The Irish Ram]

you continue to ignore what they are saying -



- again ram, who in the 1st century believed a&e sinned when all who lived then were jews -

and it certainly was not the exemplar.

a completely fabricated story they madeup in the 4th century. rather than the true journey for self determination a&e choose and a heavenly blessed decision.

What? You think only Jews lived in the first century? Breeze, you're on a journey all right, but nothing Biblical about it. You are an island unto yourself...

 

[The Irish Ram]

actually ----GAWD did not do that----jews did.
Jellybean lady really screwed your mind

Actually, He did:
2 Kings 9:36 They went back and told Jehu, who said, “This is the word of the LORD that he spoke through his servant Elijah the Tishbite: On the plot of ground at Jezreel dogs will devour Jezebel’s flesh.



I wish you had a mind....

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Very rude to insist to a Jew that Jesus is King. You must be one of those Evangelicals who wouldn’t stop harassing me.

A Christian isn't allowed to talk about their faith? Nobody is holding YOU to that standard.

 

[irosie91]

Matthew>>> the corrupt Jewish tax collector turned disciple. BUT ROME! ROME!

Actually mint was and also rue if it was cultivated, not if it was wild...
Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

^ Oh and, notice who Christ was using as an example on how not to act...again.

you are reading MATTHEW the roman shill

 

[BreezeWood]

The Romans put Christ to death at the urging of the Pharisees. They were the ones threatened by Him and the hordes that followed Him. It was the Pharisees, Rose.

not quite ...

All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!” Matthew 27:24-25

from your c-bible - w/ a grain of salt ... the exemplar died a lonely death in only the hands of the other heavenly beings of the time, mary - mary magdalene ... and few others, non of notability. their message with them.

ostensibly - till the corrupt 4th century - constantine.

 

[irosie91]

Actually, He did:
2 Kings 9:36 They went back and told Jehu, who said, “This is the word of the LORD that he spoke through his servant Elijah the Tishbite: On the plot of ground at Jezreel dogs will devour Jezebel’s flesh.



I wish you had a mind....

you are still confused----Jezebel the gentile bitch
was, uhm "executed" Both she and her hubby were despised----unlike your hero the crucifier
SAINT PILATE

 

[The Irish Ram]

you are reading MATTHEW the roman shill

That's Matthew, the corrupt Jew, who saw the light...

 

[The Irish Ram]

you are still confused----Jezebel the gentile bitch
was, uhm "executed" Both she and her hubby were despised----unlike your hero the crucifier
SAINT PILATE

Do you realize how maniacal you sound?
Jezebel was the Queen. Of the Jews. She ruled with her Husband Ahab. I don't give a shit how clouded your roman fried brain is, Jezebel tried to kill Elijah, and God wouldn't allow her to be buried. Period. Pilate had nothing to do with it, you scatterbrained loon...
Here is Elijah describing the Jews:

1 Kings 19 They have torn down your altars and killed all your prophets, except me. And now they are even trying to kill me. ​

Silly old woman. Pilate isn't my hero. (He sure has F-ed up your mind though)

 

[The Irish Ram]

not quite ...



from your c-bible - w/ a grain of salt ... the exemplar died a lonely death in only the hands of the other heavenly beings of the time, mary - mary magdalene ... and few others, non of notability. their message with them.

ostensibly - till the corrupt 4th century - constantine.

Yep quite. Just like the book says.
Again a religion of your very own making. The Marys were both earthlings, honey. Their message was that Jesus was the Messiah.

 

[irosie91]

That's Matthew, the corrupt Jew, who saw the light...

Matthew who saw the money and licked roman
ass for it for his entire life