JakeStarkey
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The 'holier than thou' snobs like Ernie S. and others of the far right are getting what they have earned: irrelevance. ![lol :lol: :lol:](/styles/smilies/lol.gif)
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I am a pro-lifer, but at some point there needs to be a compromise. 20 weeks, necessary funding to upgrade the facilities, keep them open. Right to choose preserved, right to life preserved?
What do you think?
If sooo many people support the right to an abortion, these places should have zero issue either upgrading or relocating to a facility that meets the requirements.
Raise funds, have a bake sale, sell carwashes. If so many people support it raising the required funds should be easy.
THat's an awesome idea.
While we are at it, let's MANDATE every gun owner get liability insurance (very expensive) child locks, gun safes and so on.
because, Gosh darn, if we are going to make abortion clinics do a bunch of upgrades for that small fraction that do it badly, we should make gun owners do upgrades because of Joker Holmes and his lot.
The 'holier than thou' snobs like Ernie S. and others of the far right are getting what they have earned: irrelevance.![]()
The right to bear arms is constitutional and shall not be infringed.
The right to an abortion is constitutional and shall not be infringed.
Watch what happens to the law when it hits federal court.
The 'holier than thou' snobs like Ernie S. and others of the far right are getting what they have earned: irrelevance.![]()
Thats it, go with the old commie sentiment of "the dustbin of history."
Nobody is more holier than thou than a liberal.
The 'holier than thou' snobs like Ernie S. and others of the far right are getting what they have earned: irrelevance.![]()
Thats it, go with the old commie sentiment of "the dustbin of history."
Nobody is more holier than thou than a liberal.
You hanging with commies now, martybegan. Sounds like I struck a never.
Smarmy liberals and snotish reactionaries are the bane of America.
Thats it, go with the old commie sentiment of "the dustbin of history."
Nobody is more holier than thou than a liberal.
You hanging with commies now, martybegan. Sounds like I struck a never.
Smarmy liberals and snotish reactionaries are the bane of America.
Striking a never is punishable by jail time, Never doesnt like it.
You were the one using the good old commie playbook with the irrelevance line, not me.
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Trying to compare an elective medical procedure to our right to keep and bear arms shows how much of an ignorant twat you are.
A person who misuses a gun is punished when they misuse the gun. Punishing someone who never misuses a gun is prior restraint, and is thus unconsitutional.
There is no right to an abortion, no matter what 5 of 9 unelected lawyers say
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Trying to compare an elective medical procedure to our right to keep and bear arms shows how much of an ignorant twat you are.
A person who misuses a gun is punished when they misuse the gun. Punishing someone who never misuses a gun is prior restraint, and is thus unconsitutional.
There is no right to an abortion, no matter what 5 of 9 unelected lawyers say
Actually, it was 7 out of 9. 5 of them were appointed by Republicans. 4 of the 8 justices appointed by Repulicans since have upheld that right on numerous occassions.
There ARE no rights. There are only the privilages everyone else lets you have. Popular opinions turns against the gun nuts, you will be amazed how fast "rights" go away. Just ask the Japanese-Americans how fast rights can disappear.
The SCOTUS has found a "Right" to abortion. It's just as dubious as the right to gun ownership.
A person who botches an abortion is subject to malpractice suits and crimnal proceedings. Preemptively punishing someone who misuses a medical license is prior retraint, which is unconstitutional.
"How is imposing standards punishing?" When standards do not significantly improve procedures and safety yet deliberately violate equal access for millions of women because clinics are forced toclose.
"And where is the consitutional right to be a doctor and practice being a doctor as you see fit?" This question does not pertain to the discussion.
"How is imposing standards punishing?" When standards do not significantly improve procedures and safety yet deliberately violate equal access for millions of women because clinics are forced toclose.
"And where is the consitutional right to be a doctor and practice being a doctor as you see fit?" This question does not pertain to the discussion.
Do you think it is unfair to impose those standards on plastic surgeons that have ambulatory surgery centers?
"How is imposing standards punishing?" When standards do not significantly improve procedures and safety yet deliberately violate equal access for millions of women because clinics are forced toclose.
"And where is the consitutional right to be a doctor and practice being a doctor as you see fit?" This question does not pertain to the discussion.
"How is imposing standards punishing?" When standards do not significantly improve procedures and safety yet deliberately violate equal access for millions of women because clinics are forced toclose.
"And where is the consitutional right to be a doctor and practice being a doctor as you see fit?" This question does not pertain to the discussion.
Do you think it is unfair to impose those standards on plastic surgeons that have ambulatory surgery centers?
A failed derivative analogy: we are talking about abortion providers.
Since Marty and QWB are no more knowledgeable about the medical safety procedures than I am, I will accept the assurances posted elsewhere on the Board and online that the required upgrades are negligible in improvement and are far outweighed by the denying of millions of Texas women to access to clinics.
These points have been settled, guys, and it is on these points the federal courts will say "no" to the legislation.