Creationists

[daws101]

I ignored your babble but the article on KT was an interesting read. I wonder why no one proposed that the asteroid impact could have caused volcanic eruptions at the same time. That kind of jolt to the earth could have cracked all kinds of fissures resulting in mass amounts of volcanoes worldwide.

could have, but there is no evidence supporting that view.

Well that never stopped the evolutionists. You left yourself wide open.

sorry but you took the bait as you have no evidence at all....ever.

 

[daws101]

The conversation kinda dries up when you add reality through rational thought to the conversation.

Oh and Hollie that last comment was not directed at you.

and you did this when?
on the rationality scale of 1-10 your score is .0001
on the rationalizing scale of 1-10 your score is off the scale.
you would'nt know reality if it bitched slapped you and it does every day.

 

[daws101]

One day Jesus and Moses went to play golf.
On the first tee Moses hits one straight down the fairway on to the green, 5' from the hole.
Jesus steps up and slices his ball into the rough.
Moses smiles.
Jesus gazes up to the sky ,the clouds darken, lighting crackles,it begins to rain.
A small rivulet forms under Jess's ball and carries it down to the water hazard where a fish swallows it .
just then a hawk plummets out of the sky ,snatching up the fish.
The Hawk flies over the green .
the ball drops from the fishes mouth and land's in the hole.
Jesus smiles.
Moses says" ARE YOU GONNA FUCK AROUND OR PLAY GOLF! "

 

[UltimateReality]

The conversation kinda dries up when you add reality through rational thought to the conversation.

Oh and Hollie that last comment was not directed at you.

Truth be told, Youwerecornholed, you are too queer, to just go out and be gay, with your buddy, URanallyretarded. So you smear up USMB.

When you do THAT, you don't get to snit at somebody, who comments. Use the Private Message function, when you want to get crazy, with URanal or somebody, without getting pissed on, which you deserve, for suggesting the electronics or Hollie are down, when you and your blow-buddy are so obviously shitty down-boys.

I believe Hollie would be welcome, at any thread where I post. Normally, tards take up most of the pages. We need you, on the out and about, Hollie.

Creationists and their blow-buddies suck.

God loves you and sent his Son to die for you.

 

[daws101]

The conversation kinda dries up when you add reality through rational thought to the conversation.

Oh and Hollie that last comment was not directed at you.

Truth be told, Youwerecornholed, you are too queer, to just go out and be gay, with your buddy, URanallyretarded. So you smear up USMB.

When you do THAT, you don't get to snit at somebody, who comments. Use the Private Message function, when you want to get crazy, with URanal or somebody, without getting pissed on, which you deserve, for suggesting the electronics or Hollie are down, when you and your blow-buddy are so obviously shitty down-boys.

I believe Hollie would be welcome, at any thread where I post. Normally, tards take up most of the pages. We need you, on the out and about, Hollie.

Creationists and their blow-buddies suck.

God loves you and sent his Son to die for you.

any non biblical corroborating evidence to back up that claim?

 

[Youwerecreated]

The conversation kinda dries up when you add reality through rational thought to the conversation.

Oh and Hollie that last comment was not directed at you.

and you did this when?
on the rationality scale of 1-10 your score is .0001
on the rationalizing scale of 1-10 your score is off the scale.
you would'nt know reality if it bitched slapped you and it does every day.

The questions that went ignored by your side proves what I said. Same old rhetoric,nothing of substance.

 

[Youwerecreated]

One day Jesus and Moses went to play golf.
On the first tee Moses hits one straight down the fairway on to the green, 5' from the hole.
Jesus steps up and slices his ball into the rough.
Moses smiles.
Jesus gazes up to the sky ,the clouds darken, lighting crackles,it begins to rain.
A small rivulet forms under Jess's ball and carries it down to the water hazard where a fish swallows it .
just then a hawk plummets out of the sky ,snatching up the fish.
The Hawk flies over the green .
the ball drops from the fishes mouth and land's in the hole.
Jesus smiles.
Moses says" ARE YOU GONNA FUCK AROUND OR PLAY GOLF! "

More rhetoric to avoid the questions put to you.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Truth be told, Youwerecornholed, you are too queer, to just go out and be gay, with your buddy, URanallyretarded. So you smear up USMB.

When you do THAT, you don't get to snit at somebody, who comments. Use the Private Message function, when you want to get crazy, with URanal or somebody, without getting pissed on, which you deserve, for suggesting the electronics or Hollie are down, when you and your blow-buddy are so obviously shitty down-boys.

I believe Hollie would be welcome, at any thread where I post. Normally, tards take up most of the pages. We need you, on the out and about, Hollie.

Creationists and their blow-buddies suck.

God loves you and sent his Son to die for you.

any non biblical corroborating evidence to back up that claim?

So you didn't watch the debate I posted and you said you did. Dawkins admitted that Jesus existed and was crucified.

 

[Youwerecreated]

The conversation kinda dries up when you add reality through rational thought to the conversation.

Oh and Hollie that last comment was not directed at you.

and you did this when?
on the rationality scale of 1-10 your score is .0001
on the rationalizing scale of 1-10 your score is off the scale.
you would'nt know reality if it bitched slapped you and it does every day.

Here are the questions again.

1) Which evolved first: the mouth, the stomach, the digestive fluids, or the ability to poop?

2) Which evolved first: the windpipe, the lungs, or the ability of the body to use oxygen?

3) Which evolved first: the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or the muscles to move the bones?

Also explained how the chicken came before the egg. As far as we know it takes an already existing organism to produce an egg but it also needs both male and female to produce a fertilised egg to where the egg would produce off spring. How could an egg come first without an existing organism and start a new species ?

 

[bobgnote]

We may suspect the persistent eruptions, at the Indian Deccan Traps were possibly if not probably caused, by the same meteorite, which caused the Chicxolub Crater, 65 m.y.a.

We may suspect the persistent eruptions, at the Siberian Traps were caused by some carbonaceous meteorite, 251-253 m.y.a., to exacerbate extinctions, already going on, during the P/T event.

When some astral body strikes the Earth, and volcanic eruptions go on, for a million years or more, hey! That impact may have something to do, with really massive eruptions, elsewhere, on Earth.

 

[Youwerecreated]

We may suspect the persistent eruptions, at the Indian Deccan Traps were possibly if not probably caused, by the same meteorite, which caused the Chicxolub Crater, 65 m.y.a.

We may suspect the persistent eruptions, at the Siberian Traps were caused by some carbonaceous meteorite, 251-253 m.y.a., to exacerbate extinctions, already going on, during the P/T event.

When some astral body strikes the Earth, and volcanic eruptions go on, for a million years or more, hey! That impact may have something to do, with really massive eruptions, elsewhere, on Earth.

Hey using an assumtive theory to prove a point ? Priceless.

 

[daws101]

The conversation kinda dries up when you add reality through rational thought to the conversation.

Oh and Hollie that last comment was not directed at you.

and you did this when?
on the rationality scale of 1-10 your score is .0001
on the rationalizing scale of 1-10 your score is off the scale.
you would'nt know reality if it bitched slapped you and it does every day.

The questions that went ignored by your side proves what I said. Same old rhetoric,nothing of substance.

what question (laughs)would that be?
if it was ignored the most likely reason is it's nothing of substance, Same old rhetoric,
such as the egg fallacy or the man made vs nature.
in reality it proves nothing except your need to believe it does .

 

[daws101]

God loves you and sent his Son to die for you.

any non biblical corroborating evidence to back up that claim?

So you didn't watch the debate I posted and you said you did. Dawkins admitted that Jesus existed and was crucified.

yes I did. what Dawkins admitted was true.
Jesus existed ....the rest you have no proof of.
there is no objective evidence that Jesus was the son of god
or that god even exists.
what Dawkins said is no evidence of god or sin.
but your obsession precludes you from seeing it.
belief proves nothing but belief , it is no evidence or indicator that the thing believed in exists

 

[daws101]

The conversation kinda dries up when you add reality through rational thought to the conversation.

Oh and Hollie that last comment was not directed at you.

and you did this when?
on the rationality scale of 1-10 your score is .0001
on the rationalizing scale of 1-10 your score is off the scale.
you would'nt know reality if it bitched slapped you and it does every day.

Here are the questions again.

1) Which evolved first: the mouth, the stomach, the digestive fluids, or the ability to poop?

2) Which evolved first: the windpipe, the lungs, or the ability of the body to use oxygen?

3) Which evolved first: the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or the muscles to move the bones?

Also explained how the chicken came before the egg. As far as we know it takes an already existing organism to produce an egg but it also needs both male and female to produce a fertilised egg to where the egg would produce off spring. How could an egg come first without an existing organism and start a new species ?

asked and answerd and you got your ass handed to you.

BTW YWC plagiarized those questions from a creationist site http://shatteredparadigm.blogspot.com/2008/08/three-devastating-questions-to-ask.html
and is attempting to perpetrate a fraud..

 

[Hollie]

God loves you and sent his Son to die for you.

any non biblical corroborating evidence to back up that claim?

So you didn't watch the debate I posted and you said you did. Dawkins admitted that Jesus existed and was crucified.

You have this fascination with Richard Dawkins that seems to define your belief system.

Whether or not Jesus existed and whether or not he was crucified is immaterial in connection with proving your gods. Similarly, Dawkins admitting or not admitting to the above is immaterial. Crucifixion was not uncommon during the period when Jesus was said to be crucified. Let's take a leap of faith and allow you and Dawkins the positive assertion that a man named Jesus was crucified. Now what? You are still left with the irresolvable dilemma of an earth that has existed for billions of years and a biological / fossil record that is similarly in irresolvable conflict with a 6,000 year of earth.

Your best efforts to resolve these dilemmas involved posting YouTube videos hosted by people representing the ICR and similar groups who have, as a matter of their policy statements, that their representatives shall not produce data that is in conflict with Biblical teaching. That's just absurd.

You seem to hang on every word that Dawkins utters as though his words will define legitimacy for your belief.

 

[daws101]

We may suspect the persistent eruptions, at the Indian Deccan Traps were possibly if not probably caused, by the same meteorite, which caused the Chicxolub Crater, 65 m.y.a.

We may suspect the persistent eruptions, at the Siberian Traps were caused by some carbonaceous meteorite, 251-253 m.y.a., to exacerbate extinctions, already going on, during the P/T event.

When some astral body strikes the Earth, and volcanic eruptions go on, for a million years or more, hey! That impact may have something to do, with really massive eruptions, elsewhere, on Earth.

Hey using an assumtive theory to prove a point ? Priceless.

assuming is only wrong when you have no evidence to prove it.
for you that would mean everything...

 

[Hollie]

We may suspect the persistent eruptions, at the Indian Deccan Traps were possibly if not probably caused, by the same meteorite, which caused the Chicxolub Crater, 65 m.y.a.

We may suspect the persistent eruptions, at the Siberian Traps were caused by some carbonaceous meteorite, 251-253 m.y.a., to exacerbate extinctions, already going on, during the P/T event.

When some astral body strikes the Earth, and volcanic eruptions go on, for a million years or more, hey! That impact may have something to do, with really massive eruptions, elsewhere, on Earth.

Hey using an assumtive theory to prove a point ? Priceless.

assuming is only wrong when you have no evidence to prove it.
for you that would mean everything...

Exactly. The discovery of the undersea crater sparked predictions that
evidence for the meteor impact could be found in the geologic record.

That evidence was found.

 

[Youwerecreated]

and you did this when?
on the rationality scale of 1-10 your score is .0001
on the rationalizing scale of 1-10 your score is off the scale.
you would'nt know reality if it bitched slapped you and it does every day.

Here are the questions again.

1) Which evolved first: the mouth, the stomach, the digestive fluids, or the ability to poop?

2) Which evolved first: the windpipe, the lungs, or the ability of the body to use oxygen?

3) Which evolved first: the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or the muscles to move the bones?

Also explained how the chicken came before the egg. As far as we know it takes an already existing organism to produce an egg but it also needs both male and female to produce a fertilised egg to where the egg would produce off spring. How could an egg come first without an existing organism and start a new species ?

asked and answerd and you got your ass handed to you.

Another DODGE!

If they were answered atleast one of your buddies would have answered them,so I think you are making things up again,typical

 

[Youwerecreated]

any non biblical corroborating evidence to back up that claim?

So you didn't watch the debate I posted and you said you did. Dawkins admitted that Jesus existed and was crucified.

You have this fascination with Richard Dawkins that seems to define your belief system.

Whether or not Jesus existed and whether or not he was crucified is immaterial in connection with proving your gods. Similarly, Dawkins admitting or not admitting to the above is immaterial. Crucifixion was not uncommon during the period when Jesus was said to be crucified. Let's take a leap of faith and allow you and Dawkins the positive assertion that a man named Jesus was crucified. Now what? You are still left with the irresolvable dilemma of an earth that has existed for billions of years and a biological / fossil record that is similarly in irresolvable conflict with a 6,000 year of earth.

Your best efforts to resolve these dilemmas involved posting YouTube videos hosted by people representing the ICR and similar groups who have, as a matter of their policy statements, that their representatives shall not produce data that is in conflict with Biblical teaching. That's just absurd.

You seem to hang on every word that Dawkins utters as though his words will define legitimacy for your belief.

No it was Daws until he renounced atheism.

 

[daws101]

ScienceMain article: Evolution
The theory of evolution states that species change over time via mutation and sexual reproduction. Since DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) can be modified only before birth, a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that an animal similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken eggs. These eggs then hatched into chickens that inbred to produce a living population.[12][13] Hence, in this light, both the chicken and the structure of its egg evolved simultaneously from birds that, while not of the same exact species, gradually became more and more like present-day chickens over time.

Not any mutation in one individual can be considered as constituting a new species. A speciation event involves the separation of one population from its parent population, so that interbreeding ceases; this is the process whereby domesticated animals are genetically separated from their wild forebears. The whole separated group can then be recognized as a new species.

The modern chicken was believed to have descended from another closely related species of birds, the red junglefowl, but recently discovered genetic evidence suggests that the modern domestic chicken is a hybrid descendant of both the red junglefowl and the grey junglefowl.[14] Assuming the evidence bears out, a hybrid is a compelling scenario that the chicken egg, based on the second definition, came before the chicken.

This implies that the egg existed long before the chicken, but that the chicken egg did not exist until an arbitrary threshold was crossed that differentiates a modern chicken from its ancestors. Since this arbitrary distinction cannot be made until after the egg has hatched, one would have to first find the original chicken, then from this find the first egg it laid.

A simple view is that at whatever point the threshold was crossed and the first chicken was hatched, it had to hatch from an egg. The type of bird that laid that egg, by definition, was on the other side of the threshold and therefore not technically a chicken -- it may be viewed as a proto-chicken or ancestral chicken of some sort, from which a genetic variation or mutation occurred that thus resulted in the egg being laid containing the embryo of the first chicken. In this light, de facto, the argument is settled and the egg had to have come first

Chicken or the eggFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
Illustration from Tacuina sanitatis, Fourteenth centuryThe chicken or the egg causality dilemma is commonly stated as "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" To ancient philosophers, the question about the first chicken or egg also evoked the questions of how life and the universe in general began.[1]

Cultural references to the chicken and egg intend to point out the futility of identifying the first case of a circular cause and consequence. It could be considered that in this approach lies the most fundamental nature of the question. A literal answer is somewhat obvious, as egg-laying species pre-date the existence of chickens. However, the metaphorical view sets a metaphysical ground to the dilemma. To better understand its metaphorical meaning, the question could be reformulated as: "Which came first, X that can't come without Y, or Y that can't come without X?"

An equivalent situation arises in engineering and science known as circular reference, in which a parameter is required to calculate that parameter itself. Examples are Van der Waals equation and the famous Colebrook equation
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