Creationists

[HUGGY]

I made it 4 min into the video and seriously. This guy isn't a scientist. He constantly makes broad sweeping generalizations and uses those generalizations to build on. He is a fraud. Just the statement that ALL the scientists he knows don't believe in random opportunity in evolution is rediculous.

It is amazing how hard some work a speel to defend their religion.

Meyer seems to typify the fundie creationist. As noted, he isn't a scientist and as is the case with so many who front for creationist ministries, their lack of credentials in the subject matter they rattle on about makes them appear to be quite the bufoons.

Hawly, you are such a freakin' liar it is pathetic. I have told you before and it is easily discovered on the internet that Meyer earned his PhD in History and Philosophy of Science from Cambridge University and his doctoral dissertation was titled: "Of clues and causes: A methodological interpretation of origin of life studies." You have repeated over and over that he lacks credentials on the subject matter to which he speaks but you are just repeated the same lie over and over as usual. And your blind atheist sheeple like Daws and NP are quick to jump on your lies and misinformation bandwagon.

And Huggy is also horribly mis-informed. There are no legitimate scientists that believe that chance can account for the origin of life. Even your high priest Dawkins does not make such an ignorant and stupid assertion. So you couldn't get past the first 4 minutes because of your own incredible ignorance and confirmation bias for false information from atheist agenda websites.

I have come to the conclusion that you, Daws, and Hawly are just incredibly stupid, or incredibly EVIL. I'll give you all the benefit of the doubt and assume you are EVIL.

The problem is that I was only wearing hip waders and the bullshit was getting deeper with every statement on the video. If the requirement is to drown in the nonsense "to understand it" then I will pass. Wading is pure crap up to my knees and heading north rapidly I choose to keep my clothing clean.

 

[Koios]

Then you are using circular reasoning to prove a point.

The rate was figured by rate of mutations in humans after the mapping of the human Genome.

When you are finished watching the first video watch the 2nd video because this is what I will use for evidence creation or design whichever term makes you more comfortable.


Stephen Meyer - Genetics Proves Design and Disproves Evolution PT 2 of 2 - YouTube

I made it 4 min into the video and seriously. This guy isn't a scientist. He constantly makes broad sweeping generalizations and uses those generalizations to build on. He is a fraud. Just the statement that ALL the scientists he knows don't believe in random opportunity in evolution is rediculous.

It is amazing how hard some work a speel to defend their religion.

Really? a Professor that is well known from Cambridge University

Indeed. Note he's a professor of philosophy and not a geneticist.

 

[Hollie]

Meyer seems to typify the fundie creationist. As noted, he isn't a scientist and as is the case with so many who front for creationist ministries, their lack of credentials in the subject matter they rattle on about makes them appear to be quite the bufoons.

I guess you never watched Carl Sagan's "Cosmos." Credentials or not, baffonery certainly isn't limited to creationists in the least. By the way, was Darwin a scientist?

Not formally. He received his Bachelor's in Theology from Cambridge, the same university where Meyer would later receive his PhD from. Darwin liked to pretend he was a geologist. Meyer graduated with a degree in physics and earth science in 1981 from Whitworth College and worked as a geophysicist for the Atlantic Richfield Company.

Hawly likes to ignore the fact that the man she bases her whole pathetic, EVIL religion on had no formal training on the subject on which he wrote a book on, while simultaneously discrediting Meyer, which the ignoramus Daws buys hook, line and sinker and applauds her stupidity. Which way did he go George?? What an angry, evofundie hypocrite Hawly is.

The angry fundie is perturbed that Meyer is exposed as a fraud in connection with defining cell biology. But then again, fraudulent credentials are so common among creationist charlatans.

What the angry fundies hope to avoid addressing is that the theory proposed by Darwin has passed through the filter of the scientific method and has science supported evidence to support the theory.

Desperate, angry, hyper-religious fundies seek to promote supermagicalism and mysticism as promoted by Christian ministries as a substitute for research and peer-reviewed data. That's why the charlatans are forced to pose in front of green screens in attempts to deceive the gullible that religion supplants science.

 

[Koios]

You never heard of the human Genome project and the many scientists that worked on this project ?

Projects actually. There was a race between public and private funded efforts, since private ones we patenting sections of the code as they parsed / discovered it.

Meanwhile, all the hubbub may have been over thought. Turns out the vastly more complex Protenome is what's controlling the bitch, not to mention the Epi-genetic deal where enviroment comes into play and the same fucking gene in identical twins doesn't necessarily result in the same outcome. Shit!!! No cure for cancer, nor the common cold. But we know more, so there's that.

How'd I do?

You failed.

I'm sure you'd like to think so. But then, comfortable delusions are the stock and trade of religionists.

 

[Hollie]

More Creationist Credential Inflation

Recursivity: More Creationist Credential Inflation

I've written at least once before about the propensity of creationists for credential inflation. Recursivity: Credential Inflation: A Favorite Tactic of Denialists

Here is yet another example: V. J. Torley, one of the most longwinded creationists at Uncommon Descent, refers to "Dr. David Coppedge".

Coppedge, according to his profile on Linkedin, has no doctorate at all. He has a bachelor of science, secondary education, from the august institution, "Bob Jones University", in 1972, and a B. S., Physics, from California State, Northridge, 1995.

Update: Torley has now corrected his claim.

 

[Hollie]

Some Questionable Creationist Credentials

Suspicious Creationist Credentials

 

[Koios]

Some Questionable Creationist Credentials

Suspicious Creationist Credentials

They'll burn in Hell for their flagrant disregard for God's 9th Commandment, Amen.

 

[Youwerecreated]

So, your criteria for credibility amounts to being "well known"?

You should be aware that Meyer is a demonstrated hack fronting for the Disco'tute.

He also has no credentials that would provide for knowledgeable testimony on cell biology. That would account for the blundering incompetence of his work ato the Disco'tute.

Well educated people who believe in a designer seem to drive you over the edge.

What you hope to sidestep is the fact that Meyer, like so many representing the Christian creationist ministries, is not well educated in the subject matter he rattles on about.

That's one of the reasons why creationist are such laughable buffoons - Casey Luskin is authoring "science" material on behalf of the Disco'tute.

It's enough to make one cringe, but at the same time, reading these charlatans getting flamed on their own blogs is always good for a bit of schadenfreude

Hollie you're a liar why would anyone in their right mind trust you ?

Biography

Meyer graduated with a degree in physics and earth science in 1981 from Whitworth College[4] and worked as a geophysicist for the Atlantic Richfield Company.[5] Shortly after, Meyer won a scholarship from the Rotary Club of Dallas to study at Cambridge University in the United Kingdom. Meyer earned his Ph.D. in history and philosophy of science in 1991 at the University of Cambridge.[6] His dissertation was entitled "Of clues and causes: A methodological interpretation of origin of life studies."[6] After graduating, Meyer taught philosophy at Whitworth,[7] then at the Christian Palm Beach Atlantic University.[6] Meyer later ceased teaching to devote his time to the intelligent design movement.[8]

[edit] Intelligent design

Meyer is one of a small group of prominent young intelligent design creationist advocates. Other well known creationist advocates include William Dembski, Paul Nelson, and Jonathan Wells.[9] Meyer's involvement in intelligent design (ID) can be traced to his participation in the 'Ad Hoc Origins Committee' defending Phillip E. Johnson's Darwin on Trial in 1992 or 1993 (in response to Stephen Jay Gould's "devastating"[10] review of it in the July 1992 issue of Scientific American), while with the Philosophy department at Whitworth College.[10] He was later a participant in the first formal meeting devoted to ID, hosted at Southern Methodist University in 1992.[10]
Stephen C. Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hollie]

Some Questionable Creationist Credentials

Suspicious Creationist Credentials

They'll burn in Hell for their flagrant disregard for God's 9th Commandment, Amen.

Can I get a hallelujah brothas' and sistas'

 

[Youwerecreated]

More Creationist Credential Inflation

Recursivity: More Creationist Credential Inflation

I've written at least once before about the propensity of creationists for credential inflation. Recursivity: Credential Inflation: A Favorite Tactic of Denialists

Here is yet another example: V. J. Torley, one of the most longwinded creationists at Uncommon Descent, refers to "Dr. David Coppedge".

Coppedge, according to his profile on Linkedin, has no doctorate at all. He has a bachelor of science, secondary education, from the august institution, "Bob Jones University", in 1972, and a B. S., Physics, from California State, Northridge, 1995.

Update: Torley has now corrected his claim.

What does this have to do with meyer you delusional fundie ?

 

[Hollie]

Well educated people who believe in a designer seem to drive you over the edge.

What you hope to sidestep is the fact that Meyer, like so many representing the Christian creationist ministries, is not well educated in the subject matter he rattles on about.

That's one of the reasons why creationist are such laughable buffoons - Casey Luskin is authoring "science" material on behalf of the Disco'tute.

It's enough to make one cringe, but at the same time, reading these charlatans getting flamed on their own blogs is always good for a bit of schadenfreude

Hollie you're a liar why would anyone in their right mind trust you ?

Biography

Meyer graduated with a degree in physics and earth science in 1981 from Whitworth College[4] and worked as a geophysicist for the Atlantic Richfield Company.[5] Shortly after, Meyer won a scholarship from the Rotary Club of Dallas to study at Cambridge University in the United Kingdom. Meyer earned his Ph.D. in history and philosophy of science in 1991 at the University of Cambridge.[6] His dissertation was entitled "Of clues and causes: A methodological interpretation of origin of life studies."[6] After graduating, Meyer taught philosophy at Whitworth,[7] then at the Christian Palm Beach Atlantic University.[6] Meyer later ceased teaching to devote his time to the intelligent design movement.[8]

[edit] Intelligent design

Meyer is one of a small group of prominent young intelligent design creationist advocates. Other well known creationist advocates include William Dembski, Paul Nelson, and Jonathan Wells.[9] Meyer's involvement in intelligent design (ID) can be traced to his participation in the 'Ad Hoc Origins Committee' defending Phillip E. Johnson's Darwin on Trial in 1992 or 1993 (in response to Stephen Jay Gould's "devastating"[10] review of it in the July 1992 issue of Scientific American), while with the Philosophy department at Whitworth College.[10] He was later a participant in the first formal meeting devoted to ID, hosted at Southern Methodist University in 1992.[10]
Stephen C. Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My goodness, a flaming fundie.

A degree in history and philosophy of science qualifies Meyer as a biologist how?

Your melodrama is as flaccid as Meyers' fraudulent attempts to pass himself off as qualified to discuss biological mechanisms.

This is as comical as you claiming to have worked in a biology lab.

 

[Koios]

Well educated people who believe in a designer seem to drive you over the edge.

What you hope to sidestep is the fact that Meyer, like so many representing the Christian creationist ministries, is not well educated in the subject matter he rattles on about.

That's one of the reasons why creationist are such laughable buffoons - Casey Luskin is authoring "science" material on behalf of the Disco'tute.

It's enough to make one cringe, but at the same time, reading these charlatans getting flamed on their own blogs is always good for a bit of schadenfreude

Hollie you're a liar why would anyone in their right mind trust you ?

Biography

Meyer graduated with a degree in physics and earth science in 1981 from Whitworth College[4] and worked as a geophysicist for the Atlantic Richfield Company.[5] Shortly after, Meyer won a scholarship from the Rotary Club of Dallas to study at Cambridge University in the United Kingdom. Meyer earned his Ph.D. in history and philosophy of science in 1991 at the University of Cambridge.[6] His dissertation was entitled "Of clues and causes: A methodological interpretation of origin of life studies."[6] After graduating, Meyer taught philosophy at Whitworth,[7] then at the Christian Palm Beach Atlantic University.[6] Meyer later ceased teaching to devote his time to the intelligent design movement.[8]

[edit] Intelligent design

Meyer is one of a small group of prominent young intelligent design creationist advocates. Other well known creationist advocates include William Dembski, Paul Nelson, and Jonathan Wells.[9] Meyer's involvement in intelligent design (ID) can be traced to his participation in the 'Ad Hoc Origins Committee' defending Phillip E. Johnson's Darwin on Trial in 1992 or 1993 (in response to Stephen Jay Gould's "devastating"[10] review of it in the July 1992 issue of Scientific American), while with the Philosophy department at Whitworth College.[10] He was later a participant in the first formal meeting devoted to ID, hosted at Southern Methodist University in 1992.[10]
Stephen C. Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CVs notwithstanding, whether embellished or not, the simple truth is: Meyer is blinded by his religious dogma and an embarrassment to the scientific community, if in fact he considers himself a member of it, while also poo-pooing everything science has discovered in regard to the subject matter he speaks to.

Fact, not opinion.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Some Questionable Creationist Credentials

Suspicious Creationist Credentials

They'll burn in Hell for their flagrant disregard for God's 9th Commandment, Amen.

Can I get a hallelujah brothas' and sistas'

And you claimed atheism is not a religous view.

 

[Hollie]

More Creationist Credential Inflation

Recursivity: More Creationist Credential Inflation

I've written at least once before about the propensity of creationists for credential inflation. Recursivity: Credential Inflation: A Favorite Tactic of Denialists

Here is yet another example: V. J. Torley, one of the most longwinded creationists at Uncommon Descent, refers to "Dr. David Coppedge".

Coppedge, according to his profile on Linkedin, has no doctorate at all. He has a bachelor of science, secondary education, from the august institution, "Bob Jones University", in 1972, and a B. S., Physics, from California State, Northridge, 1995.

Update: Torley has now corrected his claim.

What does this have to do with meyer you delusional fundie ?

It is connected with the creationist propensity for lies, deceit and fraud that defines so much of the industry co-habited Christian creationist charlatans, you angry fundie.

 

[Youwerecreated]

What you hope to sidestep is the fact that Meyer, like so many representing the Christian creationist ministries, is not well educated in the subject matter he rattles on about.

That's one of the reasons why creationist are such laughable buffoons - Casey Luskin is authoring "science" material on behalf of the Disco'tute.

It's enough to make one cringe, but at the same time, reading these charlatans getting flamed on their own blogs is always good for a bit of schadenfreude

Hollie you're a liar why would anyone in their right mind trust you ?

Biography

Meyer graduated with a degree in physics and earth science in 1981 from Whitworth College[4] and worked as a geophysicist for the Atlantic Richfield Company.[5] Shortly after, Meyer won a scholarship from the Rotary Club of Dallas to study at Cambridge University in the United Kingdom. Meyer earned his Ph.D. in history and philosophy of science in 1991 at the University of Cambridge.[6] His dissertation was entitled "Of clues and causes: A methodological interpretation of origin of life studies."[6] After graduating, Meyer taught philosophy at Whitworth,[7] then at the Christian Palm Beach Atlantic University.[6] Meyer later ceased teaching to devote his time to the intelligent design movement.[8]

[edit] Intelligent design

Meyer is one of a small group of prominent young intelligent design creationist advocates. Other well known creationist advocates include William Dembski, Paul Nelson, and Jonathan Wells.[9] Meyer's involvement in intelligent design (ID) can be traced to his participation in the 'Ad Hoc Origins Committee' defending Phillip E. Johnson's Darwin on Trial in 1992 or 1993 (in response to Stephen Jay Gould's "devastating"[10] review of it in the July 1992 issue of Scientific American), while with the Philosophy department at Whitworth College.[10] He was later a participant in the first formal meeting devoted to ID, hosted at Southern Methodist University in 1992.[10]
Stephen C. Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My goodness, a flaming fundie.

A degree in history and philosophy of science qualifies Meyer as a biologist how?

Your melodrama is as flaccid as Meyers' fraudulent attempts to pass himself off as qualified to discuss biological mechanisms.

This is as comical as you claiming to have worked in a biology lab.

Comprehension problems hollie "Meyer graduated with a degree in physics and earth science in 1981" Is he more qualified to speak on this matter concerning the cell than you and your buddies ?

 

[Koios]

They'll burn in Hell for their flagrant disregard for God's 9th Commandment, Amen.

Can I get a hallelujah brothas' and sistas'

And you claimed atheism is not a religous view.

It's not. Consider if the tables were turned, and God Almighty did Oprah, to tell us how He sent C Darwin to Hell for his sinful work, On the Origin of Species.

I personally, would be Atheist no more, drop to my knees and beg His mercy and forgiveness.

See how that works? Not dogma, since new information is not rejected in service of older misunderstandings.

 

[Youwerecreated]

What you hope to sidestep is the fact that Meyer, like so many representing the Christian creationist ministries, is not well educated in the subject matter he rattles on about.

That's one of the reasons why creationist are such laughable buffoons - Casey Luskin is authoring "science" material on behalf of the Disco'tute.

It's enough to make one cringe, but at the same time, reading these charlatans getting flamed on their own blogs is always good for a bit of schadenfreude

Hollie you're a liar why would anyone in their right mind trust you ?

Biography

Meyer graduated with a degree in physics and earth science in 1981 from Whitworth College[4] and worked as a geophysicist for the Atlantic Richfield Company.[5] Shortly after, Meyer won a scholarship from the Rotary Club of Dallas to study at Cambridge University in the United Kingdom. Meyer earned his Ph.D. in history and philosophy of science in 1991 at the University of Cambridge.[6] His dissertation was entitled "Of clues and causes: A methodological interpretation of origin of life studies."[6] After graduating, Meyer taught philosophy at Whitworth,[7] then at the Christian Palm Beach Atlantic University.[6] Meyer later ceased teaching to devote his time to the intelligent design movement.[8]

[edit] Intelligent design

Meyer is one of a small group of prominent young intelligent design creationist advocates. Other well known creationist advocates include William Dembski, Paul Nelson, and Jonathan Wells.[9] Meyer's involvement in intelligent design (ID) can be traced to his participation in the 'Ad Hoc Origins Committee' defending Phillip E. Johnson's Darwin on Trial in 1992 or 1993 (in response to Stephen Jay Gould's "devastating"[10] review of it in the July 1992 issue of Scientific American), while with the Philosophy department at Whitworth College.[10] He was later a participant in the first formal meeting devoted to ID, hosted at Southern Methodist University in 1992.[10]
Stephen C. Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CVs notwithstanding, whether embellished or not, the simple truth is: Meyer is blinded by his religious dogma and an embarrassment to the scientific community, if in fact he considers himself a member of it, while also poo-pooing everything science has discovered in regard to the subject matter he speaks to.

Fact, not opinion.

Blinded really ?

 

[Hollie]

They'll burn in Hell for their flagrant disregard for God's 9th Commandment, Amen.

Can I get a hallelujah brothas' and sistas'

And you claimed atheism is not a religous view.

And it is not.

Back to your madrassah - the gawds command you!

 

[Youwerecreated]

Can I get a hallelujah brothas' and sistas'

And you claimed atheism is not a religous view.

It's not. Consider if the tables were turned, and God Almighty did Oprah, to tell us how He sent C Darwin to Hell for his sinful work, On the Origin of Species.

I personally, would be Atheist no more, drop to my knees and beg His mercy and forgiveness.

See how that works? Not dogma, since new information is not rejected in service of older misunderstandings.

We will see.

 

[Koios]

Hollie you're a liar why would anyone in their right mind trust you ?

Biography

Meyer graduated with a degree in physics and earth science in 1981 from Whitworth College[4] and worked as a geophysicist for the Atlantic Richfield Company.[5] Shortly after, Meyer won a scholarship from the Rotary Club of Dallas to study at Cambridge University in the United Kingdom. Meyer earned his Ph.D. in history and philosophy of science in 1991 at the University of Cambridge.[6] His dissertation was entitled "Of clues and causes: A methodological interpretation of origin of life studies."[6] After graduating, Meyer taught philosophy at Whitworth,[7] then at the Christian Palm Beach Atlantic University.[6] Meyer later ceased teaching to devote his time to the intelligent design movement.[8]

[edit] Intelligent design

Meyer is one of a small group of prominent young intelligent design creationist advocates. Other well known creationist advocates include William Dembski, Paul Nelson, and Jonathan Wells.[9] Meyer's involvement in intelligent design (ID) can be traced to his participation in the 'Ad Hoc Origins Committee' defending Phillip E. Johnson's Darwin on Trial in 1992 or 1993 (in response to Stephen Jay Gould's "devastating"[10] review of it in the July 1992 issue of Scientific American), while with the Philosophy department at Whitworth College.[10] He was later a participant in the first formal meeting devoted to ID, hosted at Southern Methodist University in 1992.[10]
Stephen C. Meyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CVs notwithstanding, whether embellished or not, the simple truth is: Meyer is blinded by his religious dogma and an embarrassment to the scientific community, if in fact he considers himself a member of it, while also poo-pooing everything science has discovered in regard to the subject matter he speaks to.

Fact, not opinion.

Blinded really ?

Absolutely.