Crusaders charged in plot targeting Muslim immigrants

[QuickHitCurepon]

The fbi is a terror organization. Our version of the nazi SS.

That is what my late father said too. I STILL do not believe it.

 

[koshergrl]

The fbi is a terror organization. Our version of the nazi SS.

That is what my late father said too. I STILL do not believe it.

He was right.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

The fbi is a terror organization. Our version of the nazi SS.

I love it when someone presumes to make comparisons like this. So how many Jews has the FBI rounded up? Where are the prison camps? We're listening.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

The fbi is a terror organization. Our version of the nazi SS.

That is what my late father said too. I STILL do not believe it.

When did he say it? Was he persecuted personally by the FBI or did he just belong to the John Birch Society in the 60s?

 

[WaitingFor2020]

The fbi is a terror organization. Our version of the nazi SS.

The top of it is. The rank and file FBI are patriotic Americans waiting for a patriotic American to be elected to toss Comey out.

Comey was first appointed by B--B--Bush and was with his administration for several years. In a move to show bi-partisanship, Obama asked him to be FBI director in 2013.

 

[LaDexter]

You seem to play partisanship everywhere.

I do not.

I am a truther, a former Republican, and a current Libertarian.

I want W, O and Hillary to all face treason charges, as well as JDAAC Comey.

Einstein was right... it started with JFK, the USS Liberty followed, then the 1982 Marines (murdered by Israel to start a US war with Hezbo), and 911


Einstein Letter Warning Of Zionist Facism In Israel

Letters to the Editor
New York Times
December 4, 1948
TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughoutthe world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.
Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants ? 240men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.
Discrepancies Seen
The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.
The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.
ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ
HANNAH ARENDT
ABRAHAM BRICK
RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO
ALBERT EINSTEIN
HERMAN EISEN, M.D.
HAYIM FINEMAN
M. GALLEN, M.D.
H.H. HARRIS
ZELIG S. HARRIS
SIDNEY HOOK
FRED KARUSH
BRURIA KAUFMAN
IRMA L. LINDHEIM
NACHMAN MAISEL
SEYMOUR MELMAN
MYER D. MENDELSON
M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY
SAMUEL PITLICK
FRITZ ROHRLICH
LOUIS P. ROCKER
RUTH SAGIS
ITZHAK SANKOWSKY
I.J. SHOENBERG
SAMUEL SHUMAN
M. SINGER
IRMA WOLFE
STEFAN WOLF.
New York, Dec. 2, 1948

 

[B. Kidd]

The refugees are just pawns of Democrat leaders. These 3 guys, if the allegations are true, went after the wrong people.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

The fbi is a terror organization. Our version of the nazi SS.

That is what my late father said too. I STILL do not believe it.

When did he say it? Was he persecuted personally by the FBI or did he just belong to the John Birch Society in the 60s?

He belonged to many cults. The best one I saw was the John Ray program.

John D. Hamaker - Wikipedia

I gave you the worst of my father, but he bought me up well. I still remember walking in the woods with him when I was 4 years old. My father was a WWII veteran, and he spent a lot of time at the VA in the 90's.

The best trip I had with him when I was 5 was hiking around Mt. Lassen. I will never forget it.

 

[koshergrl]

Florida: Muslim convert threatens jihad massacres at schools, beaches, bases | The Geller Report

 

[ChrisL]

Ok...so...I'm having a hard time fitting Doofus, Boofus and Deadhead into the "gent" category...help me out here Pismoe....

------------------------------------------------------------------- everyone is an innocent Gent or Lady till proven guilty . That's a feature of English derived Western law Coyote .

Doesn't seem to apply to American Muslims though Pis...

Maybe these guys just feel disillusioned and oppressed. Jobs ought to cure them.

Maybe Coyote can go give them hugs.

Curing Muslims with "love" is the lib way.

You're weird.

She has a point. Instead of being realistic, you liberals live by your PC mantra. It is getting to the point of ridiculousness. Come down off your PC high horse and see the world for what it really is.

 

[hangover]

The fbi is a terror organization. Our version of the nazi SS.

That is what my late father said too. I STILL do not believe it.

He was right.

Right wing, yes we know you are. What is real, and what you believe are opposites. Your attempt to demonize the FBI, shows your support for right wing terrorists.

 

[Coyote]

------------------------------------------------------------------- everyone is an innocent Gent or Lady till proven guilty . That's a feature of English derived Western law Coyote .

Doesn't seem to apply to American Muslims though Pis...

Maybe these guys just feel disillusioned and oppressed. Jobs ought to cure them.

Maybe Coyote can go give them hugs.

Curing Muslims with "love" is the lib way.

You're weird.

She has a point. Instead of being realistic, you liberals live by your PC mantra. It is getting to the point of ridiculousness. Come down off your PC high horse and see the world for what it really is.

You mean see it from her mantra - all Muslims are evil?

 

[Pogo]

The deplorables

Three members of a southwest Kansas militia dubbed the "Crusaders” were arrested Friday on charges stemming from a plot to attack a housing complex that houses a mosque in Garden City, Kan.

Curtis Allen (49), Gavin Wright (49) of Liberal, Kan., and Patrick Stein (47), a resident of a nearby Dodge City, Kan., had stockpiled firearms and explosives. They planned to use four explosive-laden vehicles parked at the corners of the complex, which is home to a number of Somali immigrants.

Three Men Arrested in Plot to Bomb Kansas Mosque Following Presidential Election

I'm glad they were able to stop these knuckleheads. But tell me, why do you not use the same invective when it's a Muslim who is stopped?

"When it's a Muslim who is stopped"?

---- where do you see any reference to these terrorists' religion?

Oh wait. --- I forgot.... that fallacy only works one way. Silly me.

 

[Pogo]

and like I told Guno , hang them when they are PROVEN Guilty Coyote !!

We don't hang people in this country anymore.

Utah had it until 1980. They still have the choice of firing squad.
For thirty years or so they also had beheading.

and like I told Guno , hang them when they are PROVEN Guilty Coyote !!

We don't hang people in this country anymore.

--------------------------------------------- I know , just an expression from the old days when America was Great Chris L.

Ah yes, the "great" old days when you could be hanged, with or without the law..
Or garroted.
Or beheaded.
I'm gettin' all misty now.

 

[Pogo]

and like I told Guno , hang them when they are PROVEN Guilty Coyote !!

We don't hang people in this country anymore.

--------------------------------------------- I know , just an expression from the old days when America was Great Chris L.

------------------------------------------------------------------- everyone is an innocent Gent or Lady till proven guilty . That's a feature of English derived Western law Coyote .

Doesn't seem to apply to American Muslims though Pis...

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sure it does but my opinion is that they shouldn't be imported into the USA to have to take advantage of that guarantee 'Coy' !!

------------------------------- right above this is your answer Coy !!

Sweetie...I'm holding on to the principle here - innocent until proven guilty applies to everyone....

Yet you started this thread and claimed these men were guilty. Go figure. Unless they bought a bomb or actually tried to attack someone with the "weapons" then all the Government has them on is buying illegal weapons.

Where does the OP "claim they were guilty"?

Read much?

 

[bodecea]

They did nothing wrong. It isn't against the law to dislike Muslims. If the plot went beyond the planning stage then they have something.

Don't sound so disappointed they didn't carry out their bombing.

 

[Pogo]

Clearly upset white guys are the real problem right? Thankfully we got these three off the streets and now all is safe around the Muslim Somali community. No chance of terror attacks now, right?

Is hating a murderous ideology like Islam considered "plotting terrorism" now?

This is like calling Jews that hate Nazis "racist".

No. It isn't. Number one, "Nazi" is not a race. And number two, it's not hating that's illegal. It's bombing.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I can completely understand their sentiments.
When the government fails to not only protect you from terror but import it they feel like they have no choice but to take matters into their own hands.
I'm afraid it's going to get far worse if hillary gets her way.

 

[bodecea]

The deplorables

Three members of a southwest Kansas militia dubbed the "Crusaders” were arrested Friday on charges stemming from a plot to attack a housing complex that houses a mosque in Garden City, Kan.

Curtis Allen (49), Gavin Wright (49) of Liberal, Kan., and Patrick Stein (47), a resident of a nearby Dodge City, Kan., had stockpiled firearms and explosives. They planned to use four explosive-laden vehicles parked at the corners of the complex, which is home to a number of Somali immigrants.

Three Men Arrested in Plot to Bomb Kansas Mosque Following Presidential Election

I'm glad they were able to stop these knuckleheads. But tell me, why do you not use the same invective when it's a Muslim who is stopped?

He doesn't?

Perhaps for the same reason this thread will die after a handful of posts but a Muslim perp thread goes on forever and spawns a dozen offspring

Yes We have literally THOUSANDS of attacks by thousands of Muslims and you lot won't condemn them but 3 idiots do something and suddenly it is the end of the world. Remind me how upset you are by the Muslim that crashed his plane in Connecticut?

Except..we condemn those attacks all the time...you choose not to listen...it doesn't fit your partisan idea.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

They did nothing wrong. It isn't against the law to dislike Muslims. If the plot went beyond the planning stage then they have something.

You realize most plots - including those by would be Islamists - are foiled PRIOR to activation stage...that's kind of the goal here.

But they still have to take a step beyond planning. The muslim plots that are foiled are done so by stings. Agents sell them what purports to be explosives or something like that. Otherwise it's like the Hutaree case where a group of anti governnent militia gathered and discussed myriad ways of attacking the governnent. They were infiltrated and arrested . Since they never did anything other than talk and plot all charges were dismissed and they all won civil suits.

It was a sting.

Three arrested in bomb plot targeting Somalis in Kansas
The men were arrested Friday morning in the Liberal, Kansas area, after receiving what they thought were working firearms from an FBI undercover operative, officials said.

Why would they buy firearms from some yahoo that could implicate them when they could go to Armslist and buy them.
It wont be morons like these we'll have to worry about.