DACA Upheld by Supreme Court

[pknopp]

It wasn't actually upheld. It was ruled that the administration went about ending it in the wrong way.

How can someone incorrectly go about ending an In-Constitutional Law that was created by a self-professed 'Constitutional scholar' declaring he had no Constitutional authority to affect US Immigration Law by-passing Congress - the only ones Constitutionally allied to write / pass laws - to impose a personal edict as law?

How can you improperly expunge a NON-law?

Roberts just ruled that an Un-Constitutional law Un-Constitutionally created can remain a law until it is 'properly' rescinded...

WTF?!

Great news - Roberts just set the precedence for the Executive Branch (Presidents) to by-pass Congress and impose their own laws through personal edict / Executive Order.


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I asked earlier who was it that ruled it unconstitutional. I never got an answer. It was said Obama said it was but he didn't.

Can you answer?

It WAS Obama. I have posted the link many times. For once the food is - who violated the Constitution on several occasions was right.

The Constitution's Separation of Powers clearly states it is CONGRESS and ONLY Congress that authors legislation and votes bills into the law.

Laws are not created by issuing Executive Orders, by-passing Congress altogether.

Roberts is not f*ing blind or stupid to this.

DACA was, therefore, never a Constitutional law.

Since DACA was an Executive Order any President after 'Ears' has the authority to rescind the order through on of their own.

Again, the precedence Roberts just set was to allow US Presidents to bypass Congress to create their own laws through Executive Order ... Changing the Constitution himself.


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No one claims it is a law. It's an Executive Order. I dislike them but they are legal.

The funding is not. Neither is the coercion that local school districts comply with with it.

Local schools play no role. State and local systems play no role in immigration.

They do play a role - they are victims.

See to it that their parents and their parents employer start to pay taxes to support the school system.

So you that quickly concede that your previous comment was incorrect.
Thanks.

Are employers screwing the school system? Indeed. We never discussed that.

 

[Billiejeens]

This will just be rewritten and another order will be sent this week

They will choose to side against Trump on the next one too. He needs to try though.

BTW, the 3 branches are SUPPOSED TO BE CO-EQUAL. Why are we allowing the SC this much power?

I see it as appropriately checking the power of the Executive. The way the system was meant to work.

No, they are deciding a far leftists EO are not allowed to be nullified. They dont have that power. These are CO-EQUAL BRANCHES. Antvthe president DOES NOT have to abide by their decrees

They are co-equal so that they can check each other's power. It is working the way it was meant to work. The problem here is Congress refusing for decades to tackle real immigration reform.

Obama was a dictator he did it by EO

God damn

Yes, but he did something that she agrees with-
So to her he is a benevolent Dictator which cancels out the Dictator part.

 

[Flash]

Mexicans! We don't need no godaman Mexicans! What the hell was that asshole Obama thinking by bringing in a buch of Mexicans shitheads (many of them gang members) and putting them on welfare? That is some Moon Bat crazy shit. Another way that Obama fucked this country. Shame on anybody that help to elect that American hating sonofabitch.

It is even craizeier for the Libtards on the Supreme Court to say that Trump couldn't put an end to an illegal EO that the dumbass Obama signed.

 

[Flash]

So the Libtards on the Supreme Court said it was OK for that asshole Obama to circumvent immigration law by EO but Trump couldn't put an end to it? That is some dumbass judging there, isn't it? Almost as bad as saying that Obamacare was OK because it was a tax.

 

[JusticeHammer]

As I always said, the court has a way of moderating itself

Aka making up stuff as it goes along

this is judicial activism at its worst

It was a correct ruling. The matter is settled.

No, it was the wrong decision.

 

[Wyatt earp]

So the Libtards on the Supreme Court said it was OK for that asshole Obama to circumvent immigration law by EO but Trump couldn't put an end to it? That is some dumbass judging there, isn't it? Almost as bad as saying that Obamacare was OK because it was a tax.

It's judging on emotions not the law.

 

[Mac-7]

As I always said, the court has a way of moderating itself

Aka making up stuff as it goes along

this is judicial activism at its worst

It was a correct ruling. The matter is settled.

Its not correct

these politicized unelected judges are making up law as they go along

when trump is gone and his executive orders are being rescinded by a democrat Roberts will say its ok

 

[Billiejeens]

As I always said, the court has a way of moderating itself

Aka making up stuff as it goes along

this is judicial activism at its worst

It was a correct ruling. The matter is settled.

Its not correct

these politicized unelected judges are making up law as they go along

when trump us gone and his executive orders are being rescinded by a democrat Roberts will say its ok

It just emphasizes, in the strongest manner possible how important it is to have a 5-4 constitutional majority that does not depend on Roberts to be in that majority.
6-3 that includes Roberts would be fine.

 

[Flash]

So the Libtards on the Supreme Court said it was OK for that asshole Obama to circumvent immigration law by EO but Trump couldn't put an end to it? That is some dumbass judging there, isn't it? Almost as bad as saying that Obamacare was OK because it was a tax.

It's judging on emotions not the law.

That piss poor decisions is a great example of why we really can't depend upon the Judiciary to protect our Liberties. They are just as intellectually and morally corrupt as the other branches of government.

Imagine what morons would allow demented Obama to simply skip the immigration laws of the US by EO but would not allow Trump to undo that terrible action?

 

[Mac-7]

As I always said, the court has a way of moderating itself

Aka making up stuff as it goes along

this is judicial activism at its worst

It was a correct ruling. The matter is settled.

Its not correct

these politicized unelected judges are making up law as they go along

when trump us gone and his executive orders are being rescinded by a democrat Roberts will say its ok

It just emphasizes, in the strongest manner possible how important it is to have a 5-4 constitutional majority that does not depend on Roberts to be in that majority.
6-3 that includes Roberts would be fine.

If trump is reelected he will have 4 more years to overcome the Roberts fiasco

 

[DrLove]

Donnie's in a ROTTEN mood this morning - Another bad week. The Bolton Book is out, Fox News has Biden 12 points up, DACA/ Trans decisions, and the pandemic rages on.

*I'm putting it right up there with his 20 works weeks ever (of course they're all bad and next week may be worse ;-)

 

[Billiejeens]

According to Jonathan Adler, a Case Western Reserve University law professor , politically driven decisions have become standard practice for Chief Justice John Roberts.

“He dislikes decisions that alter precedent, invalidate federal statutes, sweep too broadly or (as here) upset settled expectations or cause administrative disruptions. This is also a sufficient priority for him that his concern for disruption will trump his concern for adhering to statutory text or constitutional principle,” Adler wrote.

Well, it’s fair to ask, if a chief justice of the Supreme Court allows his distaste for upsetting “settled expectations” to outweigh “statutory text or constitutional principle,” then why do we have a Supreme Court at all?

BJ - Sort of what I had previously stated.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

This ruling by the Supreme Court basically exemplifies why an Article 5 convention is required to put things back into good order.

By saying Trump cannot undo a previous administrations EO with his own EO, this effectively binds Presidents by previous Presidents EO's, (if the SCOTUS likes the prior EO, apparently)

Supreme Court rules against Trump administration bid to end DACA program

The Supreme Court ruled Thursday against the Trump administration’s effort to end the Obama-era program that offers legal protections to young immigrants brought to the country illegally as children.

www.foxnews.com

We have so many bad court decisions to reverse and the Article 5 convention is the only way to do it.

Federalist Society on Article Five Convention Status

Congress may face this issue very soon. At least 27 state legislatures have valid applications outstanding for a convention to propose a balanced budget amendment (BBA). At least six states without BBA applications have outstanding applications calling for a plenary convention. Thus, if aggregation is called for, 33 of the 34 applications needed for Congress to call a convention likely exist.​

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After consideration of the language of Article V, case law, historical practice, and other factors, this paper concludes that Congress should add existing plenary applications to the BBA total, and that it should call a BBA convention if and when the aggregated total reaches 34.​

So if Trump has a landslide win and the GOP regains the House, maintains the Senate and picks up a majority in a state that has not yet called for an article Five Convention, only one more state is needed to call the convention if a sympathetic Republican House rules in favor of aggregating the BBA applications with the 'plenary' 'blank check' applications and have an instant super majority of states in favor.

So next year could be the beginning of addressing a huge number of egregious SCOTUS rulling, two of which have come in the last two weeks alone.

Hold your breath.

 

[ColtMadeMenEqual]

This ruling by the Supreme Court basically exemplifies why an Article 5 convention is required to put things back into good order.

By saying Trump cannot undo a previous administrations EO with his own EO, this effectively binds Presidents by previous Presidents EO's, (if the SCOTUS likes the prior EO, apparently)

Supreme Court rules against Trump administration bid to end DACA program

The Supreme Court ruled Thursday against the Trump administration’s effort to end the Obama-era program that offers legal protections to young immigrants brought to the country illegally as children.

www.foxnews.com

We have so many bad court decisions to reverse and the Article 5 convention is the only way to do it.

Federalist Society on Article Five Convention Status

Congress may face this issue very soon. At least 27 state legislatures have valid applications outstanding for a convention to propose a balanced budget amendment (BBA). At least six states without BBA applications have outstanding applications calling for a plenary convention. Thus, if aggregation is called for, 33 of the 34 applications needed for Congress to call a convention likely exist.​

​

After consideration of the language of Article V, case law, historical practice, and other factors, this paper concludes that Congress should add existing plenary applications to the BBA total, and that it should call a BBA convention if and when the aggregated total reaches 34.​

So if Trump has a landslide win and the GOP regains the House, maintains the Senate and picks up a majority in a state that has not yet called for an article Five Convention, only one more state is needed to call the convention if a sympathetic Republican House rules in favor of aggregating the BBA applications with the 'plenary' 'blank check' applications and have an instant super majority of states in favor.

So next year could be the beginning of addressing a huge number of egregious SCOTUS rulling, two of which have come in the last two weeks alone.

Hold your breath.

Two days later and the dishonest thread title still hasn't been changed?

 

[francoHFW]

Another loss for the blobbers.

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As I always said, the court has a way of moderating itself

It is okay, soon there wont be a country left, and all those Latinos will be heading back to Mexico on their own, because they wont want their shit burned and looted...

Well, that and if the DEms win there won't be an economy here for them to mooch off of. They only come here for the bucks. They don't give two shits about the place, they eventually want to move back to the narco state and retire there or open up businesses. They love a 'culture' that will let them sell their daughters to pimps and porno companies for a couple of goats or a pickup.

Ridiculous garbage hate propaganda super duper.

lol you meant to say proven facts.

The Trump administration has totally screwed up the pandemic.

More stupid baseless fake news; he was acting on restricting its spread while your Party hacks were sniveling about his actions and how it was 'all rayciss n stuff toward Asians' and other idiot babbling.

We need testing tracing PPE and a lot of social distancing until we have a vaccine. What a mess. This Tulsa thing maybe the end of trump. So stupid.....

Yes, it is stupid to throw in crap that has nothing to do with this thread, just you simpering and ranting another 'talking point' you know nothing about, because you know you had nothing with the first two.

Moron.

You live on an imaginary planet, brainwashed functional moron. Do you know the difference between a political insult and a personal insult which is stupid? The Trump administration ignored this for 70 days and they still are. We need testing tracing the NPP just like we always have. to open things up again without them is typical GOP idiocy. Pass the 2010 immigration bill from the Democrats that called for an ID card, the only solution for emigration just like every other modern country has. Your party is idiotic your propaganda is idiotic and you are a brainwashed functional moron. That is a political insult. I'm sure you're just fine besides your ridiculous politics

 

[francoHFW]

Another loss for the blobbers.

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As I always said, the court has a way of moderating itself

It is okay, soon there wont be a country left, and all those Latinos will be heading back to Mexico on their own, because they wont want their shit burned and looted...

Well, that and if the DEms win there won't be an economy here for them to mooch off of. They only come here for the bucks. They don't give two shits about the place, they eventually want to move back to the narco state and retire there or open up businesses. They love a 'culture' that will let them sell their daughters to pimps and porno companies for a couple of goats or a pickup.

Ridiculous garbage hate propaganda super duper.

lol you meant to say proven facts.

The Trump administration has totally screwed up the pandemic.

More stupid baseless fake news; he was acting on restricting its spread while your Party hacks were sniveling about his actions and how it was 'all rayciss n stuff toward Asians' and other idiot babbling.

We need testing tracing PPE and a lot of social distancing until we have a vaccine. What a mess. This Tulsa thing maybe the end of trump. So stupid.....

Yes, it is stupid to throw in crap that has nothing to do with this thread, just you simpering and ranting another 'talking point' you know nothing about, because you know you had nothing with the first two.

Moron.

Yes yes, he banned travel from China when the problem was travel from Europe. Great job lol we still have n not enough testing no tracing not enough PP and absolutely no leadership from the orange clown spends all his time dividing the country with racist b*******.

 

[Mac-7]

Donnie's in a ROTTEN mood this morning - Another bad week. The Bolton Book is out, Fox News has Biden 12 points up, DACA/ Trans decisions, and the pandemic rages on.

*I'm putting it right up there with his 20 works weeks ever (of course they're all bad and next week may be worse ;-)

The SC DACA ruling is a travesty of justice

only trump would be angry about that

not anyone named bush or clinton or obama

thank God for Donald Trump

 

[francoHFW]

Donnie's in a ROTTEN mood this morning - Another bad week. The Bolton Book is out, Fox News has Biden 12 points up, DACA/ Trans decisions, and the pandemic rages on.

*I'm putting it right up there with his 20 works weeks ever (of course they're all bad and next week may be worse ;-)

The SC DACA ruling is a travesty of justice

only trump would be angry about that

not anyone named bush or clinton or obama

thank God for Donald Trump

Sorry about reality and laws and everything. Try and figure out that all you know is garbage propaganda from Fox or some scumbag, all from Rupert Murdoch. The amazing thing is Trump appears to be so incredibly ignorant and incompetent he actually believes right wing b*******. Unbelievable well his professor at Wharton said he was the stupidest fool that ever passed it. He was surprised the UK has nukes LOL.

 

[Picaro]

This will just be rewritten and another order will be sent this week

They will choose to side against Trump on the next one too. He needs to try though.

BTW, the 3 branches are SUPPOSED TO BE CO-EQUAL. Why are we allowing the SC this much power?

I see it as appropriately checking the power of the Executive. The way the system was meant to work.

No, they are deciding a far leftists EO are not allowed to be nullified. They dont have that power. These are CO-EQUAL BRANCHES. Antvthe president DOES NOT have to abide by their decrees

They are co-equal so that they can check each other's power. It is working the way it was meant to work. The problem here is Congress refusing for decades to tackle real immigration reform.

Who is checking the Supreme Court's Power
Can you give examples?

No she can't; they've invented a legal system determined by Federal judges' whims and fiat, i.e. a kangarro court system, sinc ethey can't win by legal means, they do so by judicial appointments; need to unilaterally strike down amendments like Prop 8 in California? Mkae sure you have appointed some mentally ill homo judges to Federal benches you can count on, and have a corrupt AG like Eric Holder in charge of Federal law enforcement.

 

[Picaro]

As I always said, the court has a way of moderating itself

Aka making up stuff as it goes along

this is judicial activism at its worst

It was a correct ruling. The matter is settled.

I laugh
The Supreme Court specifically said that it wasn't settled.

We'll see; they seem to be willing to keep kciking it down the raod on flimsy pretexts, when it's clearly illegal to even be funding it. They might be trying to avoid making it an election year issue, but given the GOP establishment's past history of enthusiastic support for criminal illegal aliens, I wouldn't count on that being the case.