Dear Liberals: I Want a Divorce!

I have read the Divorce Agreement and. . .

  • I mostly agree

    Votes: 43 74.1%
  • I don't want a divorce

    Votes: 7 12.1%
  • I have suggested some practical amendments

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Other and I'll explain in my post

    Votes: 5 8.6%

  • Total voters
    58
But as far as I can tell you're a partisan hack, so why wouldn't you think that?

No doubt.

After all, I'm never at the calls to prayer when y'all face Kenya and pay homage to Dear Leader. There are only the faithful Obamabots and the infidels, after all. All infidels are Republicans, thus in your alleged mind, I am a partisan.

The fact that I'm just as critical of the Republicans as I am the dims (almost, anyway) is no excuse. I don't serve your Messiah® - ergo I am a Republican.
 
But as far as I can tell you're a partisan hack, so why wouldn't you think that?

No doubt.

After all, I'm never at the calls to prayer when y'all face Kenya and pay homage to Dear Leader. There are only the faithful Obamabots and the infidels, after all. All infidels are Republicans, thus in your alleged mind, I am a partisan.

The fact that I'm just as critical of the Republicans as I am the dims (almost, anyway) is no excuse. I don't serve your Messiah® - ergo I am a Republican.

The irony is ironic.

I didn't vote for Obama, won't again, but posts like that are why I think you're a partisan hack. :thup:
 
Well, if you want a shot of optimism, there's this tidbit: back around 1995 Canada was pretty much screwed and headed for 3rd world status. Their debt and deficits were soaring UE was rising and their economy sucked. But then they turned it around, relatively quickly too. Know what they did? They capped spending. Had a minor tax increase in there too, but mostly they reduced spending. And it worked, big time. And you know who got it started?

Their liberal party. Their version of our democrats. So if they can do it, why can't we?

I dunno, maybe we just haven't convinced enough Americans that a realy bad shitstorm is comin'. Maybe we haven't lost enough respect from other nations yet, with all the financial trouble around he globe maybe our situation hasn't deteriorated enough. We're good at reacting to disasters and calamities, but not so good at preventing them. But in short, we need leadership, in both parties. And we ain't getting it.

Did they have as LARGE a plantation of worthless dweeb cradle-grave leeches as we?

Why can't we? Simple, republican conservative libertarians are controlled by big money today, the brain washing has been going strong for a long time, read the moronic responses above if you doubt that. Republicans only want power back, and their goal is not America or governance, but to defeat Obama, it was the same with Clinton and Carter. Do you jackasses ever pay attention? Or is Fox all you wingnuts watch? Obama has put forth many good ideas.

Wiseacre, your comment included tax increases, you could have answered your question, ever heard of Norquist, it is his type, and the money behind him. who manage the minds of the right today. You are smart enough to know that.

Then you have the racist stupidity of Mr T and Bayoubill, picking his nose yet, is he looking for history there, I wonder? Lyndon Baines Johnson did more for America than any president in modern history, all Americans. That he is hated demonstrates again the mindless stupidity of the right wing money managed ideologues. They play you suckers like a fiddle.

And as usual - unless I missed it in the moronic right wing replies - no one answered my question here. I wonder why? http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/226033-dear-liberals-i-want-a-divorce-27.html#post5366011


Want a great America again? Do what our greatest president did. http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/220510-the-greatest-job-creator-of-all-time.html

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Can you imagine if the conservative got their wish? What would they do as all they do now is whine about 'liberals?' I asked one hundred times:

Name a nation founded by conservatives?
Name a positive policy that has helped America by a conservative?
Name a conservative president who hasn't needed a bailout or caused a recession/depression?

No answers ever. Conservatives out of power are wonderful whiners, in power they fail. Any need to name names? :lol: Repost below.

Conservative Accomplishments?

In America today there is a movement that goes by the name conservative and claims it is a source of new ideas and policy. Is that true, can we find the place in our history past or present where that statement holds any truth? Can we find conservative accomplishments?

Let’s see.

Did conservatism form the foundations for our constitutional democracy? Surely not, we know that was the enlightenment and the liberal ideas that flowed from it. Consider only the separation of church and state or that all are created equal. Hardly conservative ideas.

Did conservatism free the individual to worship as they pleased? surely not, that was the liberal freedoms built into our constitution.

Did conservatism allow freedom of speech for all points of view? That answer is easy, No.

Did conservatism free the slave? Again, the answer can only be, no, as many conservatives fought hard to maintain the status quo.

Did conservatism help us out of the depression? No, how could they in their social Darwinistic world view. FDR’s radical ideas started us back on the right path.

Did conservatism create Social Security, one of the truly great accomplishment of this country? Easy answer, today they want to eliminate it.

Is conservatism the defensive force it claims to be? Again a review of history demonstrates not, or consider the chicken hawks today who spout that nonsense.

Did conservatism free the worker from the slavery of long hours and terrible work conditions? Thank unions for that.

Did conservatism allow ‘all’ people to vote? Thank LBJ.

Did conservatives support public education so all could have the best start possible?

Did conservatism allow a student of any color to enter any school?

Did conservatism free women from the drudgery of a life with little freedom?

Did conservatives fight for clean air and streams?

Did conservatism allow equal opportunity to the fruits of the earth that belong to all?

No to all.

Need I go on, the only accomplishments of conservatism are negative barriers to progress and a better life for all.

I cannot think of a single accomplishment of conservatism except for the rationalization of a social Darwinistic world, theocratic interference in progress and personal lives, and the criticism of others usually labeled as liberals.

Can you?

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http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/219584-the-american-conservative-continuing-series.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/186726-republican-ideology-through-history-7.html#post4251322
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...es-of-midcans-insights-into-contemporary.html

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"I dunno, maybe we just haven't convinced enough Americans that a realy bad shitstorm is comin'. Maybe we haven't lost enough respect from other nations yet, with all the financial trouble around he globe maybe our situation hasn't deteriorated enough. We're good at reacting to disasters and calamities, but not so good at preventing them. But in short, we need leadership, in both parties. And we ain't getting it."

I agree with part of this but not that America has not lost it's respect from the world.

In reality their is nothing conservative about the republican party. After Lincoln and with the exception of Eisenhower the republican party has done nothing but support corporations and through deregulation that is the cause of our roller coaster economic ride.

The republican party through free tax rides and deregulation caused the great depression and has caused another worldwide depression through the greed and fascist agenda to support nothing but more profits to the corporation and less wages and spending power for the worker.

Government of the people, by the people, for the people does not exist any longer in the republican party.

Out of control borrowing has not been 199% republican but it has been 99.9% republican. Johnson create a huge deficit by not raising taxes to support the Vietnam war but Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2 created massive deficits through borrowing because the destroyed the tax base through deregulation and tax loopholes for Wall Street bankers.

Republicans play their phony conservative game today by creating big government borrowing an then try blaming the democrats for the massive debt plus today their is a massive amount of racism in their agenda. :eusa_boohoo:

Republican constantly attack women and women's health care rights and then try and blame Obama for starting a war on women's rights. :eusa_whistle:

These so called conservative propagandists got our credit rating lowered through their dead on arrival inaction and then try to blame the president for their failure to be responsible law makers. :mad:
 
(Disclaimer: This is an adaptation of a divorce agreement that has been circulating around the internet for awhile.)

To All My Dearest Beloved Liberal, Leftist, Social Progressive, Regressive, Marxist, and Liberation Theologist Friends:

Since we are not going to get gasoline back to $1.50 per gallon and coffee to $2.00 per pound, it is time to divide up our common property and split the sheets so to speak. To wit I propose the following:

DIVORCE AGREEMENT​

WHEREAS, we have stuck together since the late 1950s for the sake of the kids and for sake of future generations, but the whole of this latest election process has revealed that our relationship has clearly run its course, and

WHEREAS, our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all,

THEREFORE let's end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is the suggested model separation agreement:

1. Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass apportioned according to numerical representation. You can have California, Oregon, and Washington State. We'll take all the rest.

2. We don't like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them.

3. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

4. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.

5. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with all the wind, solar, and bio-diesel.

6. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

7. We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.

8. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless homeboys, hippies, druggies, illegal aliens, unions, peaceniks, war protesters, and the OSW groups.

9. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

10. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood

11. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us or hit back when we are threatened or attacked.

14. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness, and Shirley McLain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

13. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.

14. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Chevy Volt you can find.

15. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any doctors to deliver it. We'll continue to believe that healthcare is more affordable and more excellent in a free market system.

16. We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic", "God Bless America", and "The National Anthem."

17. You get "Imagine", "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya," or "We Are the World".

18. We'll practice trickledown economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

19. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our constitution and our flag.

Please sign and pass it on if you will agree to this equitable distribution of property, values, and practices.

In the spirit of friendly parting, we will arrange for a community picnic in about 10 years to compare notes and see how each other are doing.

Sincerely,

Your Conservative Friends


P.S.: Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, Alec Baldwin, and Jane Fonda with you.

P.S.S..: And you won't have to "Press 1 for English" when you call our country.

They can have the NE also

but don't worry, we will export food to you.
 
Lmao that was great fyrefox anyway this site is great just seems it'll take a year to master. With all these liberals have done its hard to see how we can reconcile
 
It's a little old, but...

Red vs Blue Joke - Dear Red States

Dear Red States,

We're ticked off at the way you've treated California and we've decided we're leaving.

We intend to form our own country and we're taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren't aware that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of New California.[...]

You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.[...] Florida is ours. ;)

We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.

We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
You get Alabama. :lol: repeater is repeated. :lol:

We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states
pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.[...]

With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven

Sister schools plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush

Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.[...]

We're taking the good pot too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely,
Author Unknown in New California.

still funny

Good luck with that.

no manufacturing
no vegies
little meat
illegals
welfare "families"

you're still broke in a decade
 
Every time I see something like this I wonder how conservatives think they can stay free in a country of their own design where those in the ruling class are unencumbered by taxation, regulation and accountability and the freely exploited working class is on its own and works for practically nothing. No social mobility, no access to medical care, crappy bible based education and no way on earth to get a fair hearing of grievances.

Agreeing with California Girl that the left has little sense of humor and virtually no imagination. But let's keep trying for awhile.

Don't worry about us Occupied. I am offering you the chance for your own Utopia unencumbered by all those evil conservatives. Doesn't the idea appeal to you?

No, the very idea of two single party governments on this continent is pretty scary, might as well ask the tired old question "who would win in a red state-blue state civil war?".

:lol:

we actually believe in the right to bear arms

in practice, not theory and in real life, not on the range
 
To our leftist friends chiming in here, come on and get with the spirit of the thing. A good idea is a good idea no matter who or what inspired it. So will you go along with the agreement? I tried to incorporate everything you guys have been saying you want for so many months, even years now.

How long do you expect a parasite to live without it's host???? Be fair FF!!!!! :eek:
 
(Disclaimer: This is an adaptation of a divorce agreement that has been circulating around the internet for awhile.)

To All My Dearest Beloved Liberal, Leftist, Social Progressive, Regressive, Marxist, and Liberation Theologist Friends:

Since we are not going to get gasoline back to $1.50 per gallon and coffee to $2.00 per pound, it is time to divide up our common property and split the sheets so to speak. To wit I propose the following:

DIVORCE AGREEMENT​

WHEREAS, we have stuck together since the late 1950s for the sake of the kids and for sake of future generations, but the whole of this latest election process has revealed that our relationship has clearly run its course, and

WHEREAS, our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all,

THEREFORE let's end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is the suggested model separation agreement:

1. Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass apportioned according to numerical representation. You can have California, Oregon, and Washington State. We'll take all the rest.

2. We don't like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them.

3. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

4. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.

5. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with all the wind, solar, and bio-diesel.

6. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

7. We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.

8. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless homeboys, hippies, druggies, illegal aliens, unions, peaceniks, war protesters, and the OSW groups.

9. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

10. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood

11. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us or hit back when we are threatened or attacked.

14. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness, and Shirley McLain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

13. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.

14. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Chevy Volt you can find.

15. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any doctors to deliver it. We'll continue to believe that healthcare is more affordable and more excellent in a free market system.

16. We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic", "God Bless America", and "The National Anthem."

17. You get "Imagine", "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya," or "We Are the World".

18. We'll practice trickledown economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

19. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our constitution and our flag.

Please sign and pass it on if you will agree to this equitable distribution of property, values, and practices.

In the spirit of friendly parting, we will arrange for a community picnic in about 10 years to compare notes and see how each other are doing.

Sincerely,

Your Conservative Friends


P.S.: Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, Alec Baldwin, and Jane Fonda with you.

P.S.S..: And you won't have to "Press 1 for English" when you call our country.

They can have the NE also

but don't worry, we will export food to you.

To make it short you do not want to support the American constitution so you should immigrate to a country like China or N. Korea where you will be accepted into the tree bark eating society.
 
Can you imagine if the conservative got their wish? What would they do as all they do now is whine about 'liberals?' I asked one hundred times:

Name a nation founded by conservatives?
Name a positive policy that has helped America by a conservative?
Name a conservative president who hasn't needed a bailout or caused a recession/depression?

No answers ever. Conservatives out of power are wonderful whiners, in power they fail. Any need to name names? :lol: Repost below.

Conservative Accomplishments?

In America today there is a movement that goes by the name conservative and claims it is a source of new ideas and policy. Is that true, can we find the place in our history past or present where that statement holds any truth? Can we find conservative accomplishments?

Let’s see.

Did conservatism form the foundations for our constitutional democracy? Surely not, we know that was the enlightenment and the liberal ideas that flowed from it. Consider only the separation of church and state or that all are created equal. Hardly conservative ideas.

Did conservatism free the individual to worship as they pleased? surely not, that was the liberal freedoms built into our constitution.

Did conservatism allow freedom of speech for all points of view? That answer is easy, No.

Did conservatism free the slave? Again, the answer can only be, no, as many conservatives fought hard to maintain the status quo.

Did conservatism help us out of the depression? No, how could they in their social Darwinistic world view. FDR’s radical ideas started us back on the right path.

Did conservatism create Social Security, one of the truly great accomplishment of this country? Easy answer, today they want to eliminate it.

Is conservatism the defensive force it claims to be? Again a review of history demonstrates not, or consider the chicken hawks today who spout that nonsense.

Did conservatism free the worker from the slavery of long hours and terrible work conditions? Thank unions for that.

Did conservatism allow ‘all’ people to vote? Thank LBJ.

Did conservatives support public education so all could have the best start possible?

Did conservatism allow a student of any color to enter any school?

Did conservatism free women from the drudgery of a life with little freedom?

Did conservatives fight for clean air and streams?

Did conservatism allow equal opportunity to the fruits of the earth that belong to all?

No to all.

Need I go on, the only accomplishments of conservatism are negative barriers to progress and a better life for all.

I cannot think of a single accomplishment of conservatism except for the rationalization of a social Darwinistic world, theocratic interference in progress and personal lives, and the criticism of others usually labeled as liberals.

Can you?

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http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/219584-the-american-conservative-continuing-series.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/186726-republican-ideology-through-history-7.html#post4251322
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...es-of-midcans-insights-into-contemporary.html

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"I dunno, maybe we just haven't convinced enough Americans that a really bad shitstorm is comin'. Maybe we haven't lost enough respect from other nations yet, with all the financial trouble around he globe maybe our situation hasn't deteriorated enough. We're good at reacting to disasters and calamities, but not so good at preventing them. But in short, we need leadership, in both parties. And we ain't getting it."

I agree with part of this but not that America has not lost it's respect from the world.

In reality their is nothing conservative about the republican party. After Lincoln and with the exception of Eisenhower the republican party has done nothing but support corporations and through deregulation that is the cause of our roller coaster economic ride.

The republican party through free tax rides and deregulation caused the great depression and has caused another worldwide depression through the greed and fascist agenda to support nothing but more profits to the corporation and less wages and spending power for the worker.

That was the federal Reserve Bank that gave out too much credit. Easy to get Credit always causes trouble down the road.

Government of the people, by the people, for the people does not exist any longer in the republican party.
It doesn't in the Dem's party either. Tea party is trying to do something about it. Dem's aren't.

Out of control borrowing has not been 199% republican but it has been 99.9% republican. Johnson create a huge deficit by not raising taxes to support the Vietnam war but Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2 created massive deficits through borrowing because the destroyed the tax base through deregulation and tax loopholes for Wall Street bankers.

Republicans play their phony conservative game today by creating big government borrowing an then try blaming the democrats for the massive debt plus today their is a massive amount of racism in their agenda. :eusa_boohoo:

Our biggest spending is Entitlements that need to be reformed.

Republican constantly attack women and women's health care rights and then try and blame Obama for starting a war on women's rights. :eusa_whistle:

In this instance it's a 1st amendment rights issue.

These so called conservative propagandists got our credit rating lowered through their dead on arrival inaction and then try to blame the president for their failure to be responsible law makers. :mad:

It was Dem's who didn't want reasonable cuts. Four trillion in 10 years is what the creditor's wanted to see. 1.2 trillion didn't cut it, done by Dem's so they downgraded us.

You are believing political talk and not facts.
You should do some home work.
Both parties are to blame.

Here is one where Bush Jr. tried to create a Dept. within the Treasury Dept. that Dem's fought tooth and nail and filibustered it. Had it been implemented they would have caught those toxic loans.

Housing Bubble, Financial Crisis – What Happened, Who is Responsible « TJ Hancock

What he wrote is actual facts with none of the political lies from both sides.
 
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I still think you guys are getting into an unnecessary dither ya'll. Maybe today we can get back to the terms of the divorce.

Let's make this a no fault divorce and again just chalk it up to irreconcilable differences. It is obvious that Republicans don't like or appreciate Democrats and vice versa and the left and the right don't see eye to eye on much and each side blames the other for all the country's faults, ills, and everything bad that has ever happened.

So let's just accept that as a given and let it go. There are hundreds and hundreds of other threads out there to point out the sins and accuse and blame and insult each other. Obviously each side believes it is right, so unless we go with a no fault concept here, we can't get to a good settlement for both.

The OP was a bit tongue-in-cheek of course but it did touch on a lot of issues on which we do not agree and will likely never agree. So the point is now, how do we divide up everything so each side can have the country they want? It sure isn't working with us all trying to live together.

So maybe if we'll narrow it down to one issue at a time.

For instance:

Are the Liberalland folks willing to concede the guns, cops, and military to Conservativeland?
 
Well, if you want a shot of optimism, there's this tidbit: back around 1995 Canada was pretty much screwed and headed for 3rd world status. Their debt and deficits were soaring UE was rising and their economy sucked. But then they turned it around, relatively quickly too. Know what they did? They capped spending. Had a minor tax increase in there too, but mostly they reduced spending. And it worked, big time. And you know who got it started?

Their liberal party. Their version of our democrats. So if they can do it, why can't we?

I dunno, maybe we just haven't convinced enough Americans that a realy bad shitstorm is comin'. Maybe we haven't lost enough respect from other nations yet, with all the financial trouble around he globe maybe our situation hasn't deteriorated enough. We're good at reacting to disasters and calamities, but not so good at preventing them. But in short, we need leadership, in both parties. And we ain't getting it.

Did they have as LARGE a plantation of worthless dweeb cradle-grave leeches as we?

Why can't we? Simple, republican conservative libertarians are controlled by big money today, the brain washing has been going strong for a long time, read the moronic responses above if you doubt that. Republicans only want power back, and their goal is not America or governance, but to defeat Obama, it was the same with Clinton and Carter. Do you jackasses ever pay attention? Or is Fox all you wingnuts watch? Obama has put forth many good ideas.

Wiseacre, your comment included tax increases, you could have answered your question, ever heard of Norquist, it is his type, and the money behind him. who manage the minds of the right today. You are smart enough to know that.

Then you have the racist stupidity of Mr T and Bayoubill, picking his nose yet, is he looking for history there, I wonder? Lyndon Baines Johnson did more for America than any president in modern history, all Americans. That he is hated demonstrates again the mindless stupidity of the right wing money managed ideologues. They play you suckers like a fiddle.

And as usual - unless I missed it in the moronic right wing replies - no one answered my question here. I wonder why? http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/226033-dear-liberals-i-want-a-divorce-27.html#post5366011


Want a great America again? Do what our greatest president did. http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/220510-the-greatest-job-creator-of-all-time.html

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Whoever said all you do is drop links has apparently NOT been paying enough attention!
 
Well, if you want a shot of optimism, there's this tidbit: back around 1995 Canada was pretty much screwed and headed for 3rd world status. Their debt and deficits were soaring UE was rising and their economy sucked. But then they turned it around, relatively quickly too. Know what they did? They capped spending. Had a minor tax increase in there too, but mostly they reduced spending. And it worked, big time. And you know who got it started?

Their liberal party. Their version of our democrats. So if they can do it, why can't we?

I dunno, maybe we just haven't convinced enough Americans that a realy bad shitstorm is comin'. Maybe we haven't lost enough respect from other nations yet, with all the financial trouble around he globe maybe our situation hasn't deteriorated enough. We're good at reacting to disasters and calamities, but not so good at preventing them. But in short, we need leadership, in both parties. And we ain't getting it.

Did they have as LARGE a plantation of worthless dweeb cradle-grave leeches as we?

Why can't we? Simple, republican conservative libertarians are controlled by big money today, the brain washing has been going strong for a long time, read the moronic responses above if you doubt that. Republicans only want power back, and their goal is not America or governance, but to defeat Obama, it was the same with Clinton and Carter. Do you jackasses ever pay attention? Or is Fox all you wingnuts watch? Obama has put forth many good ideas.

Wiseacre, your comment included tax increases, you could have answered your question, ever heard of Norquist, it is his type, and the money behind him. who manage the minds of the right today. You are smart enough to know that.

Then you have the racist stupidity of Mr T and Bayoubill, picking his nose yet, is he looking for history there, I wonder? Lyndon Baines Johnson did more for America than any president in modern history, all Americans. That he is hated demonstrates again the mindless stupidity of the right wing money managed ideologues. They play you suckers like a fiddle.

And as usual - unless I missed it in the moronic right wing replies - no one answered my question here. I wonder why? http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/226033-dear-liberals-i-want-a-divorce-27.html#post5366011


Want a great America again? Do what our greatest president did. http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/220510-the-greatest-job-creator-of-all-time.html

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No one answered you questions, friend, because none of them were on topic. I am doing my damndest to arrange for an amicable divorce and am dealing with folks from the left and right who just want to jaw at each other or people like you who just want to attack one side or the other.

Let's try again here.

I don't CARE what anybody thinks about anybody else. I don't want to blame or accuse anybody else.

I just want an amicable divorce.

Now many, not all but at least many, of the conservatives are getting into the spirit of this and stating what they want in Conservativeland.

I need for you guys on the left to ask for what you want in Liberalland.

So again, are you willing for Conservativeland to take the guns,cops, and military?

Do you think getting rid of the guns, cops, and military will help establish the kind of environment that the folks going to Liberalland have always said they wanted? You probably won't have the same kinds of laws we will have on our side and with all the tolerance and understanding and helping people out and all, there probably won't be any crime on your side, yes?
 
Did they have as LARGE a plantation of worthless dweeb cradle-grave leeches as we?

Why can't we? Simple, republican conservative libertarians are controlled by big money today, the brain washing has been going strong for a long time, read the moronic responses above if you doubt that. Republicans only want power back, and their goal is not America or governance, but to defeat Obama, it was the same with Clinton and Carter. Do you jackasses ever pay attention? Or is Fox all you wingnuts watch? Obama has put forth many good ideas.

Wiseacre, your comment included tax increases, you could have answered your question, ever heard of Norquist, it is his type, and the money behind him. who manage the minds of the right today. You are smart enough to know that.

Then you have the racist stupidity of Mr T and Bayoubill, picking his nose yet, is he looking for history there, I wonder? Lyndon Baines Johnson did more for America than any president in modern history, all Americans. That he is hated demonstrates again the mindless stupidity of the right wing money managed ideologues. They play you suckers like a fiddle.

And as usual - unless I missed it in the moronic right wing replies - no one answered my question here. I wonder why? http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/226033-dear-liberals-i-want-a-divorce-27.html#post5366011


Want a great America again? Do what our greatest president did. http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/220510-the-greatest-job-creator-of-all-time.html

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No one answered you questions, friend, because none of them were on topic. I am doing my damndest to arrange for an amicable divorce and am dealing with folks from the left and right who just want to jaw at each other or people like you who just want to attack one side or the other.

Let's try again here.

I don't CARE what anybody thinks about anybody else. I don't want to blame or accuse anybody else.

I just want an amicable divorce.

Now many, not all but at least many, of the conservatives are getting into the spirit of this and stating what they want in Conservativeland.

I need for you guys on the left to ask for what you want in Liberalland.

So again, are you willing for Conservativeland to take the guns,cops, and military?

Do you think getting rid of the guns, cops, and military will help establish the kind of environment that the folks going to Liberalland have always said they wanted? You probably won't have the same kinds of laws we will have on our side and with all the tolerance and understanding and helping people out and all, there probably won't be any crime on your side, yes?

Still a stupid topic no matter how many times you bump it. Understand this if nothing else, your OP is insulting to liberals on so many levels that expecting anyone to just accept the premise and play along is asinine, but you knew that from the beginning. Drop the mild mannered moderator act, the OP which you claim to have partially authored is dripping with hatred for liberals, why are you surprised to get negative blowback?
 

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