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Quote: Originally Posted by Luissa No your OP is stereotypical, and over generalizes. You are disrespecting fellow Americans by posting this garbage. And the founding fathers would think this group email you stole from a friend is a horrible idea. They didn't want a country where everyone thought the same way. Some Republicans need to start realizing that just because someone doesn't think the same way they do does not make them unpatriotic.
Those who are calling anybody unpatriotic and thoseon the left and right who want to make this into just another insult fest thread are not grasping the whole point of the OP. It was written from a conservative perspective yes, but every single point can be defended,
So far all I've seen mostly from the Left is indignation and butt hurt and the ever present hatefulness, but except for one or two with the smarts to grasp the concept and get into the spirit of the thing, nobody has offered a single amendment or addition or counter offer.
I know liberals in real life who have a sense of humor and know how to have fun. Do none exist at USMB?
Those who are calling anybody unpatriotic and thoseon the left and right who want to make this into just another insult fest thread are not grasping the whole point of the OP. It was written from a conservative perspective yes, but every single point can be defended,
So far all I've seen mostly from the Left is indignation and butt hurt and the ever present hatefulness, but except for one or two with the smarts to grasp the concept and get into the spirit of the thing, nobody has offered a single amendment or addition or counter offer.
I know liberals in real life who have a sense of humor and know how to have fun. Do none exist at USMB?
Sorry that your plan for liberal exile on the west cost does not tickle my funny bone. A distant place to dump the untermensch is only funny when you are not the untermensch.
Those who are calling anybody unpatriotic and thoseon the left and right who want to make this into just another insult fest thread are not grasping the whole point of the OP. It was written from a conservative perspective yes, but every single point can be defended,
So far all I've seen mostly from the Left is indignation and butt hurt and the ever present hatefulness, but except for one or two with the smarts to grasp the concept and get into the spirit of the thing, nobody has offered a single amendment or addition or counter offer.
I know liberals in real life who have a sense of humor and know how to have fun. Do none exist at USMB?
Sorry that your plan for liberal exile on the west cost does not tickle my funny bone. A distant place to dump the untermensch is only funny when you are not the untermensch.
It's not a done deal until everybody agrees. So instead of whining and crying and being a jerk, why not suggest what you want for Liberalland? Luissa is obviously ignoring my argument for why I think Conservativeland should have some of the items on the list. Apparently she doesn't have a rebuttal for that. Do you?
Sorry that your plan for liberal exile on the west cost does not tickle my funny bone. A distant place to dump the untermensch is only funny when you are not the untermensch.
It's not a done deal until everybody agrees. So instead of whining and crying and being a jerk, why not suggest what you want for Liberalland? Luissa is obviously ignoring my argument for why I think Conservativeland should have some of the items on the list. Apparently she doesn't have a rebuttal for that. Do you?
No liberal would agree to anything resembling your plan, so what are you prepared to give up to get rid of us cockroaches? What price are you prepared to pay to live in an authoritarian, ideologically pure nation with a single ruling party?
It's not a done deal until everybody agrees. So instead of whining and crying and being a jerk, why not suggest what you want for Liberalland? Luissa is obviously ignoring my argument for why I think Conservativeland should have some of the items on the list. Apparently she doesn't have a rebuttal for that. Do you?
No liberal would agree to anything resembling your plan, so what are you prepared to give up to get rid of us cockroaches? What price are you prepared to pay to live in an authoritarian, ideologically pure nation with a single ruling party?
You mean you WANT those evil, polluting oil companies and all those evil corporations that so many on your side have been demonizing for years now? Who would have thought? Why do you want that which you say you hate? It is purely because nobody on your side has had anything positive to say about them for yuears now, that I assigned them to Conservativeland. We like them.
No liberal would agree to anything resembling your plan, so what are you prepared to give up to get rid of us cockroaches? What price are you prepared to pay to live in an authoritarian, ideologically pure nation with a single ruling party?
You mean you WANT those evil, polluting oil companies and all those evil corporations that so many on your side have been demonizing for years now? Who would have thought? Why do you want that which you say you hate? It is purely because nobody on your side has had anything positive to say about them for yuears now, that I assigned them to Conservativeland. We like them.
We in Realville WANT industry and good stewardship and know both can exist. Obamaville kooks change direction on a dime.
It's not a done deal until everybody agrees. So instead of whining and crying and being a jerk, why not suggest what you want for Liberalland? Luissa is obviously ignoring my argument for why I think Conservativeland should have some of the items on the list. Apparently she doesn't have a rebuttal for that. Do you?
No liberal would agree to anything resembling your plan, so what are you prepared to give up to get rid of us cockroaches? What price are you prepared to pay to live in an authoritarian, ideologically pure nation with a single ruling party?
You mean you WANT those evil, polluting oil companies and all those evil corporations that so many on your side have been demonizing for years now? Who would have thought? Why do you want that which you say you hate? It is purely because nobody on your side has had anything positive to say about them for yuears now, that I assigned them to Conservativeland. We like them.
No liberal would agree to anything resembling your plan, so what are you prepared to give up to get rid of us cockroaches? What price are you prepared to pay to live in an authoritarian, ideologically pure nation with a single ruling party?
You mean you WANT those evil, polluting oil companies and all those evil corporations that so many on your side have been demonizing for years now? Who would have thought? Why do you want that which you say you hate? It is purely because nobody on your side has had anything positive to say about them for yuears now, that I assigned them to Conservativeland. We like them.
Since we are answering questions with questions, Would it be legal to be a liberal in conservative land? Would it be legal to be a conservative in liberal land? We know the answers to these questions and that should be reason enough for anyone to reject such a scenario out of hand.
You mean you WANT those evil, polluting oil companies and all those evil corporations that so many on your side have been demonizing for years now? Who would have thought? Why do you want that which you say you hate? It is purely because nobody on your side has had anything positive to say about them for yuears now, that I assigned them to Conservativeland. We like them.
Since we are answering questions with questions, Would it be legal to be a liberal in conservative land? Would it be legal to be a conservative in liberal land? We know the answers to these questions and that should be reason enough for anyone to reject such a scenario out of hand.
I have no problem with anybody living in Conservativeland just so long as he or she doesn't try to turn it into Liberalland. That's why we want Liberalland to have the illegals. It is mostly folks on your side who like them, who want to keep funding them, and who think it is racist to reject them or object to them. Conservatives don't want them because too many of them have no interest in becoming Americans or assimilating into the American culture. They want to retain their language, their flag, their laws, etc. etc. while benefitting from whatever they can get from America. In Liberalland that apparently would not be a problem. In Conservativeland it would be.
Conservatives embrace American exceptionalism and all that entails. I've never met a liberal who also embracedi that.
You mean you WANT those evil, polluting oil companies and all those evil corporations that so many on your side have been demonizing for years now? Who would have thought? Why do you want that which you say you hate? It is purely because nobody on your side has had anything positive to say about them for yuears now, that I assigned them to Conservativeland. We like them.
We in Realville WANT industry and good stewardship and know both can exist. Obamaville kooks change direction on a dime.
But in a no fault divorce that doesn't matter. Each side should take what they want and organize their country as they want. We shake hands and part company with no hard feelings.
Luissa said she took offense at one of the proposals. Last night I spelled out why those things were assigned to the conservative side. Since then, crickets.
I assigned the oil companies and most of the big corporations to the conservative side for the same reason. Those who will occupy Liberalland have hated those things for a long time now. On thread after thread and post after post, they have had absolutely nothing good to say about any of them. So of course thsoe things should go to Conservativeland.
Liberalland can keep Ben & Jerry's, all the Solyndras, and all the wind, solar, and biofuel industries. They have always liked those and I don't think Conservatives would mind giving them up.
Since we are answering questions with questions, Would it be legal to be a liberal in conservative land? Would it be legal to be a conservative in liberal land? We know the answers to these questions and that should be reason enough for anyone to reject such a scenario out of hand.
I have no problem with anybody living in Conservativeland just so long as he or she doesn't try to turn it into Liberalland. That's why we want Liberalland to have the illegals. It is mostly folks on your side who like them, who want to keep funding them, and who think it is racist to reject them or object to them. Conservatives don't want them because too many of them have no interest in becoming Americans or assimilating into the American culture. They want to retain their language, their flag, their laws, etc. etc. while benefitting from whatever they can get from America. In Liberalland that apparently would not be a problem. In Conservativeland it would be.
Conservatives embrace American exceptionalism and all that entails. I've never met a liberal who also embracedi that.
American exceptionalism is a philosophy we used when dealing with other nations, not our own people, no idea leads to fascism like "the enemy within". Quit talking about liberals as a "them", we are your neighbors and relatives who are relatively decent people who have no problem putting up with you.
I have no problem with anybody living in Conservativeland just so long as he or she doesn't try to turn it into Liberalland. That's why we want Liberalland to have the illegals. It is mostly folks on your side who like them, who want to keep funding them, and who think it is racist to reject them or object to them. Conservatives don't want them because too many of them have no interest in becoming Americans or assimilating into the American culture. They want to retain their language, their flag, their laws, etc. etc. while benefitting from whatever they can get from America. In Liberalland that apparently would not be a problem. In Conservativeland it would be.
Conservatives embrace American exceptionalism and all that entails. I've never met a liberal who also embracedi that.
American exceptionalism is a philosophy we used when dealing with other nations, not our own people, no idea leads to fascism like "the enemy within". Quit talking about liberals as a "them", we are your neighbors and relatives who are relatively decent people who have no problem putting up with you.
You need to get your information from something other than Wiki. American Exceptionalism has nothing to do with dealing with other nations other than we are not obligated to submit to anybody else.
American Excpetionalism celebrates America's uniqueness, its focus on self governance, its concept of a people who own the government rather than the other way around, a concept of people possessing unaliienable rights that are not assigned by any government. You know, all those concepts put out there by the Founders that most liberals have despised and attempted to denigrate as much as possible. Most folks in Liberalland seem to appreciate and want to be more like Europe.
Conservativeland will embrace American exceptionalism and use it to very good advantage. And that's why Conservativeland should have it.
Conservatives embrace American exceptionalism and all that entails. I've never met a liberal who also embracedi that.
American exceptionalism is a philosophy we used when dealing with other nations, not our own people, no idea leads to fascism like "the enemy within". Quit talking about liberals as a "them", we are your neighbors and relatives who are relatively decent people who have no problem putting up with you.
You need to get your information from something other than Wiki. American Exceptionalism has nothing to do with dealing with other nations other than we are not obligated to submit to anybody else.
American Excpetionalism celebrates America's uniqueness, its focus on self governance, its concept of a people who own the government rather than the other way around, a concept of people possessing unaliienable rights that are not assigned by any government. You know, all those concepts put out there by the Founders that most liberals have despised and attempted to denigrate as much as possible. Most folks in Liberalland seem to appreciate and want to be more like Europe.
Conservativeland will embrace American exceptionalism and use it to very good advantage. And that's why Conservativeland should have it.
American Exceptionalism IS...Liberty found nowhere else in the world.
I have no problem with anybody living in Conservativeland just so long as he or she doesn't try to turn it into Liberalland. That's why we want Liberalland to have the illegals. It is mostly folks on your side who like them, who want to keep funding them, and who think it is racist to reject them or object to them. Conservatives don't want them because too many of them have no interest in becoming Americans or assimilating into the American culture. They want to retain their language, their flag, their laws, etc. etc. while benefitting from whatever they can get from America. In Liberalland that apparently would not be a problem. In Conservativeland it would be.
Conservatives embrace American exceptionalism and all that entails. I've never met a liberal who also embracedi that.
American exceptionalism is a philosophy we used when dealing with other nations, not our own people, no idea leads to fascism like "the enemy within". Quit talking about liberals as a "them", we are your neighbors and relatives who are relatively decent people who have no problem putting up with you.
You need to get your information from something other than Wiki. American Exceptionalism has nothing to do with dealing with other nations other than we are not obligated to submit to anybody else.
American Excpetionalism celebrates America's uniqueness, its focus on self governance, its concept of a people who own the government rather than the other way around, a concept of people possessing unaliienable rights that are not assigned by any government. You know, all those concepts put out there by the Founders that most liberals have despised and attempted to denigrate as much as possible. Most folks in Liberalland seem to appreciate and want to be more like Europe.
Conservativeland will embrace American exceptionalism and use it to very good advantage. And that's why Conservativeland should have it.
You need to get your information from something other than Wiki. American Exceptionalism has nothing to do with dealing with other nations other than we are not obligated to submit to anybody else.
American Excpetionalism celebrates America's uniqueness, its focus on self governance, its concept of a people who own the government rather than the other way around, a concept of people possessing unaliienable rights that are not assigned by any government. You know, all those concepts put out there by the Founders that most liberals have despised and attempted to denigrate as much as possible. Most folks in Liberalland seem to appreciate and want to be more like Europe.
Conservativeland will embrace American exceptionalism and use it to very good advantage. And that's why Conservativeland should have it.
American Exceptionalism IS...Liberty found nowhere else in the world.
Yes, the Founders envisioned a nation like no nation that had ever existed. The concept of natural (or God given) rights did not originate with them, but they embraced the concept. And the Constitution was built around that principle. Rather than having a monarch or authoritarian pope/church authority or dictator or feudal lords or other totalitarian system of government as existed everywhere else in the world, Americans would designate a government that would secure their rights and then leave them alone to form whatever sort of society they wished to have. It was a freedom that the world had never known before in all of recorded history and it remains unique among nations of the world today.
THAT is American exceptionalism and it is THAT which most, if not all, conservatives embrace in America now whether or not they know how to define it. It is the antithesis of modern day American liberalism.
So American exceptionalism can't exist anywhere but in Conservativeland and that is why we should have it.
Conservatives embrace American exceptionalism and all that entails. I've never met a liberal who also embracedi that.
You should try to meet more people.
