Debate #1 -- Clinton v Trump --- 2016 -- OFFICIAL THREAD.

[RodISHI]

Her eyes are going to be rolling together showing her brain damage shortly.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Hillary now discussing cyber security?

I know, right?

 

[jon_berzerk]

I think future moderators should have control the the microphones. These fucking children of candidates can't behave and ought to be spanked.

On other points, Trump continues to claim he forced Obama to "produce" his birth certificate. Which is patently false. Obama's birth certificate had been released long before Trump ever jumped in on the nonsense. Trump, in fact, insisted it was a forgery.

true but who cares

he is right that clinton operatives

started the birther issue

So his defense for lying is "you started it!"?

why not it is the truth

 

[ChrisL]

Good grief. She totally stumbles over the ISIS stuff. Lame.

 

[g5000]

Oh nice! Hitting her on the political hacks that led us to Iraq and Syria and Libya.

All of which Trump supported.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Hillary now discussing cyber security?

Like she has any credibility on the matter.
Of course she had to get in her dig regarding Putin and Trump. What a bunch of bullshit
We don't want to use a 'different type of warfare".....
Wow she is all over the place.
She cannot stick to the subject matter.
Whether she likes it or not, the next great world conflict will not be fought with bombs, bullets or aircraft, it will be fought electronically. Yes, some nation will figure out how to hack into a way to hack into an electrical grid or public water supply....Such an act could cripple the US. And all the military materiel won't make a damned bit of difference.
She is wrong here.
What the federal government should do is what they do in Las Veags. The casinos hire ex cheats and computer experts that once attacked them as consultants to provide security.
Bag Daddy?

 

[Toro]

Betting markets think Clinton is winning.

Link ?

Clinton up ~4% since the debate started.

Election Betting Odds

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

 

[deltex1]

I shit my pants when Hillary says she has a plan to defeat Isis. Not gonna wipe. I'm sure there's more coming from her.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I feel Trump is kind of rambling, reaching for some kind of coherent response on this cyber security question

 

[AntonToo]

A plan is one thing. Execution is another. I can plan to paint the Mona Lisa. Whether I can actually paint it is another.

You don't get it...the architect just designs the building...they don't BUILD it.

They hire also on to direct all the building as it goes along for big project. Hell many artist sell their artworks through these firms. Get an education before you talk about shit you apparently know nothing about.

They have to get things approved at EVERY stage of the building... is that a lie?

Huh?

I'm making the point, how do you let a building get to being completely done to decide that the architect did a bad job? EVERY decision along the way has to get approved by the person having the building built. So how does Trump wait until the job is completely done to say the guy did a bad job and doesn't deserve to get paid? Trump approved all the decisions, including the plans, the amount, the materials, any changes...EVERYTHING until it was done. Then said, screw you I'm not paying you. If he wasn't happy, why didn't he get a different guy along the way?

Admitting a good job done is bad business - just ask Trump, a tremendous businessman.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Good grief. She totally stumbles over the ISIS stuff. Lame.

Bag Daddy?

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

When is Lester going to ask Hillary about Benganzi.

 

[SwimExpert]

I think future moderators should have control the the microphones. These fucking children of candidates can't behave and ought to be spanked.

On other points, Trump continues to claim he forced Obama to "produce" his birth certificate. Which is patently false. Obama's birth certificate had been released long before Trump ever jumped in on the nonsense. Trump, in fact, insisted it was a forgery.

true but who cares

he is right that clinton operatives

started the birther issue

So his defense for lying is "you started it!"?

why not it is the truth

Because it's no justification a flagrant lie.

 

[jon_berzerk]

I think future moderators should have control the the microphones. These fucking children of candidates can't behave and ought to be spanked.

On other points, Trump continues to claim he forced Obama to "produce" his birth certificate. Which is patently false. Obama's birth certificate had been released long before Trump ever jumped in on the nonsense. Trump, in fact, insisted it was a forgery.

true but who cares

he is right that clinton operatives

started the birther issue

So his defense for lying is "you started it!"?

What did he lie about?

he didnt

he correcty pointed out

that clinton operatives started the birther issue

 

[Rocko]

I think future moderators should have control the the microphones. These fucking children of candidates can't behave and ought to be spanked.

On other points, Trump continues to claim he forced Obama to "produce" his birth certificate. Which is patently false. Obama's birth certificate had been released long before Trump ever jumped in on the nonsense. Trump, in fact, insisted it was a forgery.

Not the long copy birth certificate

 

[SwimExpert]

Good grief. She totally stumbles over the ISIS stuff. Lame.

Bag Daddy?

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[g5000]

Her eyes are going to be rolling together showing her brain damage shortly.

Be sure and let us know when that happens, wishful thinker.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Yeah because YOU Mrs Clinton never did.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

A plan is one thing. Execution is another. I can plan to paint the Mona Lisa. Whether I can actually paint it is another.

You don't get it...the architect just designs the building...they don't BUILD it.

They hire also on to direct all the building as it goes along for big project. Hell many artist sell their artworks through these firms. Get an education before you talk about shit you apparently know nothing about.

They have to get things approved at EVERY stage of the building... is that a lie?

Huh?

I'm making the point, how do you let a building get to being completely done to decide that the architect did a bad job? EVERY decision along the way has to get approved by the person having the building built. So how does Trump wait until the job is completely done to say the guy did a bad job and doesn't deserve to get paid? Trump approved all the decisions, including the plans, the amount, the materials, any changes...EVERYTHING until it was done. Then said, screw you I'm not paying you. If he wasn't happy, why didn't he get a different guy along the way?

Wrong. The contractor that is under contract to build the facility is in charge and is accountable to the owner, not the architect, for how the finished product turns out. The architect's job is to design it, not build it. Big difference. The contractor has a project manager/engineer on site that is in charge of overseeing all aspects of the build process. The contractor does not get the final payment if the building is not completed to the owner's satisfaction.