Debate on climate and warming? Not really.

[CrusaderFrank]

Anyone who tells you that climate is changing all the time, have them refer to the image below. Follow the curve.

Jake, please tell the class how we had accurate temperature reading of the "excess heat" stored in the deep ocean back in 1600, and 10,000 BCE, for example

I see you are too stupid to understand how we know what we know about what the planet was like thousands & millions years ago.

Clearly, please educate me. How did you get those deep ocean heat readings back in 60BCE?

 

[miketx]

Anyone who tells you that climate is changing all the time, have them refer to the image below. Follow the curve.

Jake, please tell the class how we had accurate temperature reading of the "excess heat" stored in the deep ocean back in 1600, and 10,000 BCE, for example

I see you are too stupid to understand how we know what we know about what the planet was like thousands & millions years ago.

Hey twit...they couldn't even accurately predict the snow amounts for this week....and yet they are going to be dead on 100 years from now.....you are the dumb one......

Now you call WEATHER climate. You are the dumbest, most uninformed jackass on this site.

You can't stop lying can you. The other day you said I was the dumbest most uninformed jackass on the site. But you are correct. People do certainly need to be informed, just like all those people who were informed that the Earth was flat, and were informed that the Sun revolved around the Earth, that were informed there are only 3 elements and that the Earth is only 6000 years old. Yes, being informed is very important.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Anyone who tells you that climate is changing all the time, have them refer to the image below. Follow the curve.

Jake, please tell the class how we had accurate temperature reading of the "excess heat" stored in the deep ocean back in 1600, and 10,000 BCE, for example

I see you are too stupid to understand how we know what we know about what the planet was like thousands & millions years ago.

Explain it to us.

Sop you think we just made up the climate of those eras in the past? Do we learn anything from the fossil history? Ice cores? Tree rings?

We must have made up dinosaurs too. Right, dumbass.

You're pulling shit outa your hole.

Ice core, fossils and tree rings don't measure temps to the tenth of a degree

GLOBULL warming is a huge scam....and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. You're a leftist alright...easily led and easily duped

 

[miketx]

Anyone who tells you that climate is changing all the time, have them refer to the image below. Follow the curve.

Jake, please tell the class how we had accurate temperature reading of the "excess heat" stored in the deep ocean back in 1600, and 10,000 BCE, for example

I see you are too stupid to understand how we know what we know about what the planet was like thousands & millions years ago.

Clearly, please educate me. How did you get those deep ocean heat readings back in 60BCE?

They use a complicated computer algorithm to guess at it based on tree rings and cave drawings.

 

[RealDave]

Stop the presses? The ignorant right has declared we know nothing about our planet's history. NOTHING. Because they did not accurately measure & leave us a detailed climate record.

You ignorant fucks need to make up your mind.

First you say "OMG OMG OMG our climate has always changed" Something you would not know unless we had a climate record.

Not you asswipes claim that we have zero knowledge of the past.

This should be a sign of how stupid you & your argument against Global Warming is.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Anyone who tells you that climate is changing all the time, have them refer to the image below. Follow the curve.

Jake, please tell the class how we had accurate temperature reading of the "excess heat" stored in the deep ocean back in 1600, and 10,000 BCE, for example

I see you are too stupid to understand how we know what we know about what the planet was like thousands & millions years ago.

Clearly, please educate me. How did you get those deep ocean heat readings back in 60BCE?

They use a complicated computer algorithm to guess at it based on tree rings and cave drawings.

Remember a couple of years back when they announced this huge spike in temps...then someone informed them their math was wrong? Priceless

 

[miketx]

Stop the presses? The ignorant right has declared we know nothing about our planet's history. NOTHING. Because they did not accurately measure & leave us a detailed climate record.

You ignorant fucks need to make up your mind.

First you say "OMG OMG OMG our climate has always changed" Something you would not know unless we had a climate record.

Not you asswipes claim that we have zero knowledge of the past.

This should be a sign of how stupid you & your argument against Global Warming is.

We have declared no such thing. We have declared that you don't have a data set to correctly predict climate change.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Stop the presses? The ignorant right has declared we know nothing about our planet's history. NOTHING. Because they did not accurately measure & leave us a detailed climate record.

You ignorant fucks need to make up your mind.

First you say "OMG OMG OMG our climate has always changed" Something you would not know unless we had a climate record.

Not you asswipes claim that we have zero knowledge of the past.

This should be a sign of how stupid you & your argument against Global Warming is.

How did you arrive at the temperature of the Indian Ocean back in 30BCE?

 

[Boss]

Anyone who tells you that climate is changing all the time, have them refer to the image below. Follow the curve.

Your graph is very misleading on several aspects. First of all, it's only since about 1960 that we've been able to accurately take atmospheric temperature readings with reliability. Prior to this, we are relying on data that doesn't show the detail available today with sophisticated instrumentation. We simply don't know about past short-term fluctuations that may have happened. So you are left with comparing past guesstimates with detailed modern information.

You will also notice, the average temperatures of today aren't much different from the averages of 5000 B.C. long before industrialization. Guess what happened without any liberal socialist anti-capitalist intervention? The temperatures magically declined! The progression of civilization didn't have to be halted, people didn't have to be guilted into complying with governmental mandates designed to redistribute wealth under the guise of "climate change". Mother Nature handled it all by herself without any help from radical environmentalists.

The next thing... Your graph, as long and storied as it is... only represents about half of a Milankovitch Cycle. We are in-between ice ages and something miraculous happens to ice whenever we're not in an ice age... it melts. Some of us think this is a good thing because it's not fun having 3-mile-thick ice sheets covering much of North America. It's makes habitation of warm blooded mammals problematic. Others of us can't wrap their small minds around the magnitude of these lengthy cycles and become alarmed at melting ice. But it's completely a natural cycle which has been happening for billions of years.

Finally, at the end of your graph are these wild speculations which have no real basis in science or reality. Various possible scenarios that can't be supported with any relevant science other than science devoted to promoting a certain narrative of which it survives from political funding to promote. The "optimistic" and "best case" scenarios are completely unachievable, unless we're all going to revert to pre-industrial civilization... we're not going to realistically do that. Nations like China are going to laugh at your silly suggestions and developing nations simply can't afford to take the measures you recommend. So you have an unfeasible solution.

In addition, I will add that the science of botany seems to completely disagree with you about our CO2 levels. According to botanical research, we know that most plant life thrives optimally at around 600 ppm CO2 levels. (We're currently at 400 ppm) Again, you seem to be at odds with Mother Nature who's plants, until recently, were actually starving for CO2, leaving large swaths of the planet unable to support plant life of any kind. Increasing the viability of plant life means increasing food supplies and feeding the hungry. So your worries about CO2 levels are also unfounded.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

A serious AGW debate has yet to happen between Left and Right, that would be impossible given the amount of money involved......always follow the money

Hell now we have the ex?-CEO of Exxon as Sec of State and Scott Pruitt of all people running the EPA

In reality it's already too late, the CO2 dump into the atmosphere happening right now will increase for decades if not centuries........any 'debate' is moot, already baked in the cake....


“The rate of CO2 growth over the last decade is 100 to 200 times faster than what the Earth experienced during the transition from the last ice age,” Tans said. “This is a real shock to the atmosphere.”

The number is significant because the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was 280 parts per million from about 10,000 years ago until the start of the Industrial Revolution. The monthly global average nosed above 400 parts per million for the first time in March 2015 and is now increasing at a faster pace, according to NOAA researchers. What’s more, carbon emissions stay in the atmosphere for years, so even as some emissions have been reduced in recent years, the global average level continues to climb. In 1960, they were about 300 parts per million, suggesting a precipitous climb in a relatively short period of time since then.

That means carbon dioxide levels have dramatically increased by more than 40 percent in the lifetime of many people on Earth,

Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Hits Record Levels

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Stop the presses? The ignorant right has declared we know nothing about our planet's history. NOTHING. Because they did not accurately measure & leave us a detailed climate record.

You ignorant fucks need to make up your mind.

First you say "OMG OMG OMG our climate has always changed" Something you would not know unless we had a climate record.

Not you asswipes claim that we have zero knowledge of the past.

This should be a sign of how stupid you & your argument against Global Warming is.

How did you arrive at the temperature of the Indian Ocean back in 30BCE?

Are you kidding? They can't tell you what the temp was in Mexico in 1650 with any accuracy

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Stop the presses? The ignorant right has declared we know nothing about our planet's history. NOTHING. Because they did not accurately measure & leave us a detailed climate record.

You ignorant fucks need to make up your mind.

First you say "OMG OMG OMG our climate has always changed" Something you would not know unless we had a climate record.

Not you asswipes claim that we have zero knowledge of the past.

This should be a sign of how stupid you & your argument against Global Warming is.

How did you arrive at the temperature of the Indian Ocean back in 30BCE?

Are you kidding? They can't tell you what the temp was in Mexico in 1650 with any accuracy

Che?

 

[RealDave]

Anyone who tells you that climate is changing all the time, have them refer to the image below. Follow the curve.

Jake, please tell the class how we had accurate temperature reading of the "excess heat" stored in the deep ocean back in 1600, and 10,000 BCE, for example

I see you are too stupid to understand how we know what we know about what the planet was like thousands & millions years ago.

Explain it to us.

Sop you think we just made up the climate of those eras in the past? Do we learn anything from the fossil history? Ice cores? Tree rings?

We must have made up dinosaurs too. Right, dumbass.

You're pulling shit outa your hole.

Ice core, fossils and tree rings don't measure temps to the tenth of a degree

GLOBULL warming is a huge scam....and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. You're a leftist alright...easily led and easily duped

We don't need the temps to a tenth of a degree. We want the overall climate.

I am backed by science. You are backed by right wing politicians & fossil fuel corps.

I'll take the scientists.

You put your children at risk with your ignorance.

How does reducing emissions hurt you?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Jake, please tell the class how we had accurate temperature reading of the "excess heat" stored in the deep ocean back in 1600, and 10,000 BCE, for example

I see you are too stupid to understand how we know what we know about what the planet was like thousands & millions years ago.

Explain it to us.

Sop you think we just made up the climate of those eras in the past? Do we learn anything from the fossil history? Ice cores? Tree rings?

We must have made up dinosaurs too. Right, dumbass.

You're pulling shit outa your hole.

Ice core, fossils and tree rings don't measure temps to the tenth of a degree

GLOBULL warming is a huge scam....and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. You're a leftist alright...easily led and easily duped

We don't need the temps to a tenth of a degree. We want the overall climate.

I am backed by science. You are backed by right wing politicians & fossil fuel corps.

I'll take the scientists.

You put your children at risk with your ignorance.

How does reducing emissions hurt you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah we're all going to die!!!!!!!!

Stop running around screaming in hysterics. It's a scam

 

[RealDave]

Stop the presses? The ignorant right has declared we know nothing about our planet's history. NOTHING. Because they did not accurately measure & leave us a detailed climate record.

You ignorant fucks need to make up your mind.

First you say "OMG OMG OMG our climate has always changed" Something you would not know unless we had a climate record.

Not you asswipes claim that we have zero knowledge of the past.

This should be a sign of how stupid you & your argument against Global Warming is.

How did you arrive at the temperature of the Indian Ocean back in 30BCE?

Are you kidding? They can't tell you what the temp was in Mexico in 1650 with any accuracy

OH I get it. The past is worthless because there was no accurate temperature readings. We can know also from what was written at that time. You know, the same way you know Jesus lived - oh wait, we don't have his photo ID or birth certificate so he must be a myth.

So since you don't know what happened in the past, how can you say the climate is always changing? How do you know?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Stop the presses? The ignorant right has declared we know nothing about our planet's history. NOTHING. Because they did not accurately measure & leave us a detailed climate record.

You ignorant fucks need to make up your mind.

First you say "OMG OMG OMG our climate has always changed" Something you would not know unless we had a climate record.

Not you asswipes claim that we have zero knowledge of the past.

This should be a sign of how stupid you & your argument against Global Warming is.

How did you arrive at the temperature of the Indian Ocean back in 30BCE?

Are you kidding? They can't tell you what the temp was in Mexico in 1650 with any accuracy

OH I get it. The past is worthless because there was no accurate temperature readings. We can know also from what was written at that time. You know, the same way you know Jesus lived - oh wait, we don't have his photo ID or birth certificate so he must be a myth.

So since you don't know what happened in the past, how can you say the climate is always changing? How do you know?

You're annoying in your hysterics. You're never going to convince me GLOBULL warming is anything but a huge scam

 

[RealDave]

I see you are too stupid to understand how we know what we know about what the planet was like thousands & millions years ago.

Explain it to us.

Sop you think we just made up the climate of those eras in the past? Do we learn anything from the fossil history? Ice cores? Tree rings?

We must have made up dinosaurs too. Right, dumbass.

You're pulling shit outa your hole.

Ice core, fossils and tree rings don't measure temps to the tenth of a degree

GLOBULL warming is a huge scam....and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. You're a leftist alright...easily led and easily duped

We don't need the temps to a tenth of a degree. We want the overall climate.

I am backed by science. You are backed by right wing politicians & fossil fuel corps.

I'll take the scientists.

You put your children at risk with your ignorance.

How does reducing emissions hurt you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah we're all going to die!!!!!!!!

Stop running around screaming in hysterics. It's a scam

I didn't say we were all going to die. But there very well be food & water shortages & wars because of it. But hey, you don't care because some moron like Trump told you it was a scam. And Donald Never lies, noooooo.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Explain it to us.

Sop you think we just made up the climate of those eras in the past? Do we learn anything from the fossil history? Ice cores? Tree rings?

We must have made up dinosaurs too. Right, dumbass.

You're pulling shit outa your hole.

Ice core, fossils and tree rings don't measure temps to the tenth of a degree

GLOBULL warming is a huge scam....and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. You're a leftist alright...easily led and easily duped

We don't need the temps to a tenth of a degree. We want the overall climate.

I am backed by science. You are backed by right wing politicians & fossil fuel corps.

I'll take the scientists.

You put your children at risk with your ignorance.

How does reducing emissions hurt you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah we're all going to die!!!!!!!!

Stop running around screaming in hysterics. It's a scam

I didn't say we were all going to die. But there very well be food & water shortages & wars because of it. But hey, you don't care because some moron like Trump told you it was a scam. And Donald Never lies, noooooo.

Blah, blah, blah, blah....it's a scam.

 

[RealDave]

March 17, 2062, Dear Gandma, Why were you such a fucking dick & fought efforts to reduce emissions. My children suffer more & more as we struggle with the warmer temps & food is getting tougher to afford. How could you do this to us? I hope those few dollars you saved made you happy because it certainly fucked us over. Signed Your really pissed on grand daughter Michelle.

 

[RealDave]

Sop you think we just made up the climate of those eras in the past? Do we learn anything from the fossil history? Ice cores? Tree rings?

We must have made up dinosaurs too. Right, dumbass.

You're pulling shit outa your hole.

Ice core, fossils and tree rings don't measure temps to the tenth of a degree

GLOBULL warming is a huge scam....and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. You're a leftist alright...easily led and easily duped

We don't need the temps to a tenth of a degree. We want the overall climate.

I am backed by science. You are backed by right wing politicians & fossil fuel corps.

I'll take the scientists.

You put your children at risk with your ignorance.

How does reducing emissions hurt you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah we're all going to die!!!!!!!!

Stop running around screaming in hysterics. It's a scam

I didn't say we were all going to die. But there very well be food & water shortages & wars because of it. But hey, you don't care because some moron like Trump told you it was a scam. And Donald Never lies, noooooo.

Blah, blah, blah, blah....it's a scam.

Blah Blah Blah you are an idiot.