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What I find most ironic is the Ds and MSM claimed for four years, that our election of 2016 was a fraud. Now, they claim voter fraud is unproven and so very unlikely.How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation
You have to prove "massive voter fraud." Simply because your media feeds you that line doesn't mean it's true.
Not one single leftist on this forum even WANTS to know what actually happened. They don't CARE if this election was fair and legitimate. They have no values, no principles, and simply operate on the most primitive level of understanding where only their tribe counts and so if their tribe wins, that is as far as they are capable of understanding. These authoritarians are anything BUT liberal in political orientation as they oppose just about every liberal principle imaginable including the one on display here -- that powerful and well placed people should not be able to use this power to circumvent the will of the people.
My position is that principles override partisan political identification, and that intelligent people with at least a high school proficiency in mathematics should be able to study the data and determine for themselves that there are anomalies galore that need to be investigated. Certainly, those who don't want them investigated are mostly too stupid to understand mathematics in the first place, but even those who do display an average ability are blinded by their partisanship here.
We SHOULD want our elections to be fair. All the Stalinist type posters here who don't care are leading us down a truly terrible path as a nation.
It seems that a lot of Trump supporters only believe the election was not fair and legitimate because Trump lost. To be fair, that was the message they were receiving from the president himself.They don't CARE if this election was fair and legitimate
Tl,drFirst, in Wisconsin, the conspiracy theory that there was a big fraudulent dump for Biden in the middle of the night. This is false. The increase in votes overnight was due to how ballots are processed, counted and reported in Wisconsin.
The morning after Election Day, President Donald Trump took to Twitter and claimed that people were “finding Biden votes all over the place — in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.”At a press conference in Philadelphia that afternoon, Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani repeated the deceptive claim. “In Wisconsin, mysteriously at 4 in the morning, 120,000 ballots appeared,” Giuliani said. “Here come these ballots. Well, we have no idea if they really are ballots.”Across social media, supporters picked up the narrative. “Between 3:30-4:30AM, they ‘found’ 140,000 mail in ballots for Biden in Wisconsin,” tweeted Nick Adams, a staunch pro-Trump political commentator. He added, falsely: “All for Biden. None for Trump.” ...For years, Wisconsin’s clerks have asked the Legislature for flexibility in counting absentee ballots. One bill last year proposed allowing clerks to start pre-processing absentee ballots the day before Election Day. Another proposed to at least allow in-person absentee voters to feed their ballots into tabulators.Clerks said either measure would save them from the extraordinary stress of processing increasingly large numbers of absentee ballots on Election Day. Such flexibility became even more urgent as COVID-19’s spread made it clear that a record-breaking 1.8 million Wisconsinites could cast absentee ballots this election. ...The viral firestorm of misinformation about absentee ballots is “precisely” the type of drama that clerks hoped to avoid, said Milwaukee Election Commission head Claire Woodall-Vogg. ...Wisconsin is one of just four states where election workers are not allowed to pre-process absentee ballots until Election Day. Pre-processing could cover a range of tasks including slicing open envelopes, fixing damaged ballots and feeding them through tabulator machines. ...Although the machines would be keeping a tally, the counts would not be known to clerks or disclosed to the public until after the polls closed on Election Day. ...As a result, cities like Milwaukee and Green Bay that transport their ballots to a central location for counting did not finish tabulating absentee results until 2 to 4 a.m. And because many Democratic voters chose absentee voting this year, that meant the majority of votes processed at the end were for former Vice President Joe Biden.For weeks, top officials and election experts have been telling the public to expect this pattern because absentee ballot results are often the last to be tabulated.“The absentee ballots in MKE that were reported in the early morning hours were NOT a surprise," Assembly Majority Leader Jim Steineke, R-Kaukauna, wrote on Facebook on Wednesday. "We knew exactly how many were out there the entire day. Them being reported late is NOT an indication of fraud.” ...A Journal Sentinel analysis of Associated Press data shows that between 3:26 a.m. and 3:44 a.m., Biden’s share of votes in Wisconsin jumped by 149,520 and Trump’s by 31,803. The vast majority of the new votes were due to Wisconsin’s largest city, Milwaukee, finishing its absentee count and reporting 143,124 votes for Biden and 23,642 votes for Trump.Under the law, municipalities like Milwaukee that count ballots in a central facility instead of at the polling site must report their tallies in a lump sum. Woodall-Vogg said she asked the Wisconsin Elections Commission for permission to release a partial update of results at 8 p.m. specifically “to avoid this dramatic narrative that’s completely false.”
Ballot clerks asked for help. Lawmakers didn't act. Disinformation followed.
The Legislature had a chance to head off the confusion and misinformation about Wisconsin's late-night ballot count. Lawmakers didn't take action.www.jsonline.com
There is no evidence so far of massive voter fraud...
The reason there is multiple unfounded allegations is because any one can be refuted easily. This is the machine gun attack... This is not to win but to discredit and create chaos... Chaos in the past has fuelled online by US enemies like Russia(this is well proven).. This is about dividing US.
I expect this from Trump and unfortunately I am highly disappointed in the GOP leadership. Not shocked. It was there time to grab back reality from Trump. GOP is on a train to loosing. The old communist trick only works so many times in Miami Dade...
Trump & GOP are trying to run a disinformation campaign.
What I find most ironic is the Ds and MSM claimed for four years, that our election of 2016 was a fraud. Now, they claim voter fraud is unproven and so very unlikely.How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation
You have to prove "massive voter fraud." Simply because your media feeds you that line doesn't mean it's true.
If all Americans can’t see through this, they must be clueless.
It seems that a lot of Trump supporters only believe the election was not fair and legitimate because Trump lost. To be fair, that was the message they were receiving from the president himself.They don't CARE if this election was fair and legitimate
He said it himself. Deciding that a loss is equal to fraud demonstrates lack of commitment to the legal voting process.That is a stupid and ignorant comment.
Who’s that?What I find most ironic is the Ds and MSM claimed for four years, that our election of 2016 was a fraud. Now, they claim voter fraud is unproven and so very unlikely.How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation
You have to prove "massive voter fraud." Simply because your media feeds you that line doesn't mean it's true.
If all Americans can’t see through this, they must be clueless.
At least as clueless as those who vote for someone not running, yes?
He said it himself. Deciding that a loss is equal to fraud demonstrates lack of commitment to the legal voting process.That is a stupid and ignorant comment.
Who’s that?What I find most ironic is the Ds and MSM claimed for four years, that our election of 2016 was a fraud. Now, they claim voter fraud is unproven and so very unlikely.How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation
You have to prove "massive voter fraud." Simply because your media feeds you that line doesn't mean it's true.
If all Americans can’t see through this, they must be clueless.
At least as clueless as those who vote for someone not running, yes?
threads like this slay me. no way in hell can they be serious, just identifying themselves as "salesmen" for the left. the one trying to say "you didn't see what you saw..." or in bidens case "he didn't say what he said" and in trumps case "not what he said but this is what we say he said".Dominion Software. That's the angle I would explore, especially because 6 years ago in N.B (I posted the article from CBC yesterday), not only was there another such "glitch", which conveniently the CEO blamed on someone outside the software but didn't know who it was, but, also citizens were weary of the results then.
That was 6 years ago. In Canada we are so conditioned to NOT pursue conspiracies, that in fact, conspiracies and abuses just go without challenge. Be it bribery of officials (we have the worst record in the G20) to government abuses against citizens. It's why China has decimated and spied on or economy for decades, and in return, we get to work in their warehouses they build in Canada.
The simple thing as a start to voter fraud is that your own Prog people made statements before the election. They know. Sociopaths and Psychopaths doing wrong have a more difficult time sweating when confronted. Anyway, you are vengeance on all.How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation
You have to prove "massive voter fraud." Simply because your media feeds you that line doesn't mean it's true.
Can you bring back JakeStarkey or TruthMatters?How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation
You have to prove "massive voter fraud." Simply because your media feeds you that line doesn't mean it's true.
Nope.It seems that a lot of Trump supporters only believe the election was not fair and legitimate because Trump lost. To be fair, that was the message they were receiving from the president himself.They don't CARE if this election was fair and legitimate
The question is whether you’ll accept that these claims on the internet rarely ever turn out to be substantiated.You are literally a fucking idiot.
what "mountains of evidence"?How does this prove massive voter fraud didn't happen specifically? You provide a few instances but discount the mountains of evidence showing it was indeed compromised.
We'll see soon enough when the investigations are completed & everything comes to light.
Gonna be rough, you made it too obvious this time out of desperation
