December 13, 68 degrees

[CrusaderFrank]

This global/climate change is all b.s. This was a plan thought up by the think tank group that wrote the Iron Mountain Report back in the mid to late 60's. The Club Of Rome, an offshoot of the U.N was created and commissioned by the Committee of 300 to start pushing what the architects of the Iron Mountain Report said must happen if global governance was to become a reality. Here is a quote from the final draft: "It may be, for instance, that gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the principal apparent threat to the survival of the species. Poisoning of the air, and of the principal sources of food and water supply, is already well advanced, and at first glance would seem promising in this respect; it constitutes a threat that can be dealt with only through social organization and political power. But from present indications it will be a generation to a generation and a half before environmental pollution, however severe, will be sufficiently menacing, on a global scale, to offer a possible basis for a solution.However unlikely some of the possible alternate enemies we have mentioned may seem, we must emphasize that one must be found, of credible quality and magnitude, if a transition to peace is ever to come about without social disintegration.... It is more probable, in our judgment, that such a threat will have to be invented, rather than developed from unknown conditions."

Now here is a quote from the Club Of Rome in 1972 : "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose."

Maurice Strong, Club Of Rome member and a once high ranking official with the U.N had some very alarming things to say as well:“Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?”
"Current lifestyle and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air-conditioning and suburban housing – are not sustainable. A shift is necessary which will require a vast strengthening of the multilateral system, including the United Nations".

These U.N funded scientists have already been busted for fudging numbers and manipulating the numbers to try and make a case that there is an increase in temperatures when the opposite is happening due to the geo-engineering that has been going on in earnest since at least 1997. Using aerosol spraying in conjunction with ionospheric heaters, they have been creating weird weather anomalies that they then blame on "climate change" because they had to stop using "global warming" because it didn't fit the narrative. Wake up and open your eyes and realize that you are being played for a sucker and none of this will bode well for any of us if these draconian rules and regulations are placed on us and all in the name of saving "Mother Earth". I suggest that you do a little research on Agenda 21 and look at the map that they propose for America....lots of little blue squares where the serfs will be allowed to live while 50 percent of America is off limits. This is real and this is happening.
They have been using geoengineering to create these weird weather patterns by spraying nano-particulates of barium, strontium and aluminum into the upper atmosphere and then using ionospheric heaters to heat up those particles in order to manipulate the jet stream. They can only create high pressure zones but can use them to squash low pressure zones. Weather modification has been a goal of the military industrial complex since the 1940's to use it as a force multiplier. You should listen to me because I have dedicated thousands upon thousands of hours reading everything I can get my hands on and researching it.

The entire AGWCult has been caught repeatedly fudging the number and the IPCC outright admits its using AGW as a wealth redistribution scheme

 

[Dale Smith]

This global/climate change is all b.s. This was a plan thought up by the think tank group that wrote the Iron Mountain Report back in the mid to late 60's. The Club Of Rome, an offshoot of the U.N was created and commissioned by the Committee of 300 to start pushing what the architects of the Iron Mountain Report said must happen if global governance was to become a reality. Here is a quote from the final draft: "It may be, for instance, that gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the principal apparent threat to the survival of the species. Poisoning of the air, and of the principal sources of food and water supply, is already well advanced, and at first glance would seem promising in this respect; it constitutes a threat that can be dealt with only through social organization and political power. But from present indications it will be a generation to a generation and a half before environmental pollution, however severe, will be sufficiently menacing, on a global scale, to offer a possible basis for a solution.However unlikely some of the possible alternate enemies we have mentioned may seem, we must emphasize that one must be found, of credible quality and magnitude, if a transition to peace is ever to come about without social disintegration.... It is more probable, in our judgment, that such a threat will have to be invented, rather than developed from unknown conditions."

Now here is a quote from the Club Of Rome in 1972 : "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose."

Maurice Strong, Club Of Rome member and a once high ranking official with the U.N had some very alarming things to say as well:“Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?”
"Current lifestyle and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air-conditioning and suburban housing – are not sustainable. A shift is necessary which will require a vast strengthening of the multilateral system, including the United Nations".

These U.N funded scientists have already been busted for fudging numbers and manipulating the numbers to try and make a case that there is an increase in temperatures when the opposite is happening due to the geo-engineering that has been going on in earnest since at least 1997. Using aerosol spraying in conjunction with ionospheric heaters, they have been creating weird weather anomalies that they then blame on "climate change" because they had to stop using "global warming" because it didn't fit the narrative. Wake up and open your eyes and realize that you are being played for a sucker and none of this will bode well for any of us if these draconian rules and regulations are placed on us and all in the name of saving "Mother Earth". I suggest that you do a little research on Agenda 21 and look at the map that they propose for America....lots of little blue squares where the serfs will be allowed to live while 50 percent of America is off limits. This is real and this is happening.
They have been using geoengineering to create these weird weather patterns by spraying nano-particulates of barium, strontium and aluminum into the upper atmosphere and then using ionospheric heaters to heat up those particles in order to manipulate the jet stream. They can only create high pressure zones but can use them to squash low pressure zones. Weather modification has been a goal of the military industrial complex since the 1940's to use it as a force multiplier. You should listen to me because I have dedicated thousands upon thousands of hours reading everything I can get my hands on and researching it.

The entire AGWCult has been caught repeatedly fudging the number and the IPCC outright admits its using AGW as a wealth redistribution scheme

Actually, it's worse than that....the IMF will be the one that will be in charge of collecting the carbon tax and it is owned by the same cabal of thieves that own the Fed bank, the Bank for International Settlements and the Global Bank....not one single penny will trickle down to the third world countries that they claim they want to help. They have been putting these countries into debt and making them put their natural resources up as collateral. They will use the money collected from the carbon tax to pay down the interest these third world countries owe the IMF. It is a scam of the highest order. Please tell me how by paying a tax to the banking oligarchs that own all the big oil companies and have suppressed petroleum free energy is going to "save the planet"......not one single liberal has an explanation.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This global/climate change is all b.s. This was a plan thought up by the think tank group that wrote the Iron Mountain Report back in the mid to late 60's. The Club Of Rome, an offshoot of the U.N was created and commissioned by the Committee of 300 to start pushing what the architects of the Iron Mountain Report said must happen if global governance was to become a reality. Here is a quote from the final draft: "It may be, for instance, that gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the principal apparent threat to the survival of the species. Poisoning of the air, and of the principal sources of food and water supply, is already well advanced, and at first glance would seem promising in this respect; it constitutes a threat that can be dealt with only through social organization and political power. But from present indications it will be a generation to a generation and a half before environmental pollution, however severe, will be sufficiently menacing, on a global scale, to offer a possible basis for a solution.However unlikely some of the possible alternate enemies we have mentioned may seem, we must emphasize that one must be found, of credible quality and magnitude, if a transition to peace is ever to come about without social disintegration.... It is more probable, in our judgment, that such a threat will have to be invented, rather than developed from unknown conditions."

Now here is a quote from the Club Of Rome in 1972 : "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose."

Maurice Strong, Club Of Rome member and a once high ranking official with the U.N had some very alarming things to say as well:“Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?”
"Current lifestyle and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air-conditioning and suburban housing – are not sustainable. A shift is necessary which will require a vast strengthening of the multilateral system, including the United Nations".

These U.N funded scientists have already been busted for fudging numbers and manipulating the numbers to try and make a case that there is an increase in temperatures when the opposite is happening due to the geo-engineering that has been going on in earnest since at least 1997. Using aerosol spraying in conjunction with ionospheric heaters, they have been creating weird weather anomalies that they then blame on "climate change" because they had to stop using "global warming" because it didn't fit the narrative. Wake up and open your eyes and realize that you are being played for a sucker and none of this will bode well for any of us if these draconian rules and regulations are placed on us and all in the name of saving "Mother Earth". I suggest that you do a little research on Agenda 21 and look at the map that they propose for America....lots of little blue squares where the serfs will be allowed to live while 50 percent of America is off limits. This is real and this is happening.
They have been using geoengineering to create these weird weather patterns by spraying nano-particulates of barium, strontium and aluminum into the upper atmosphere and then using ionospheric heaters to heat up those particles in order to manipulate the jet stream. They can only create high pressure zones but can use them to squash low pressure zones. Weather modification has been a goal of the military industrial complex since the 1940's to use it as a force multiplier. You should listen to me because I have dedicated thousands upon thousands of hours reading everything I can get my hands on and researching it.

The entire AGWCult has been caught repeatedly fudging the number and the IPCC outright admits its using AGW as a wealth redistribution scheme

Actually, it's worse than that....the IMF will be the one that will be in charge of collecting the carbon tax and it is owned by the same cabal of thieves that own the Fed bank, the Bank for International Settlements and the Global Bank....not one single penny will trickle down to the third world countries that they claim they want to help. They have been putting these countries into debt and making them put their natural resources up as collateral. They will use the money collected from the carbon tax to pay down the interest these third world countries owe the IMF. It is a scam of the highest order. Please tell me how by paying a tax to the banking oligarchs that own all the big oil companies and have suppressed petroleum free energy is going to "save the planet"......not one single liberal has an explanation.

You nailed it, it's control, the destruction of sovereignty and submission to world government -- it's doomed to fail

 

[Dale Smith]

This global/climate change is all b.s. This was a plan thought up by the think tank group that wrote the Iron Mountain Report back in the mid to late 60's. The Club Of Rome, an offshoot of the U.N was created and commissioned by the Committee of 300 to start pushing what the architects of the Iron Mountain Report said must happen if global governance was to become a reality. Here is a quote from the final draft: "It may be, for instance, that gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the principal apparent threat to the survival of the species. Poisoning of the air, and of the principal sources of food and water supply, is already well advanced, and at first glance would seem promising in this respect; it constitutes a threat that can be dealt with only through social organization and political power. But from present indications it will be a generation to a generation and a half before environmental pollution, however severe, will be sufficiently menacing, on a global scale, to offer a possible basis for a solution.However unlikely some of the possible alternate enemies we have mentioned may seem, we must emphasize that one must be found, of credible quality and magnitude, if a transition to peace is ever to come about without social disintegration.... It is more probable, in our judgment, that such a threat will have to be invented, rather than developed from unknown conditions."

Now here is a quote from the Club Of Rome in 1972 : "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose."

Maurice Strong, Club Of Rome member and a once high ranking official with the U.N had some very alarming things to say as well:“Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?”
"Current lifestyle and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air-conditioning and suburban housing – are not sustainable. A shift is necessary which will require a vast strengthening of the multilateral system, including the United Nations".

These U.N funded scientists have already been busted for fudging numbers and manipulating the numbers to try and make a case that there is an increase in temperatures when the opposite is happening due to the geo-engineering that has been going on in earnest since at least 1997. Using aerosol spraying in conjunction with ionospheric heaters, they have been creating weird weather anomalies that they then blame on "climate change" because they had to stop using "global warming" because it didn't fit the narrative. Wake up and open your eyes and realize that you are being played for a sucker and none of this will bode well for any of us if these draconian rules and regulations are placed on us and all in the name of saving "Mother Earth". I suggest that you do a little research on Agenda 21 and look at the map that they propose for America....lots of little blue squares where the serfs will be allowed to live while 50 percent of America is off limits. This is real and this is happening.
They have been using geoengineering to create these weird weather patterns by spraying nano-particulates of barium, strontium and aluminum into the upper atmosphere and then using ionospheric heaters to heat up those particles in order to manipulate the jet stream. They can only create high pressure zones but can use them to squash low pressure zones. Weather modification has been a goal of the military industrial complex since the 1940's to use it as a force multiplier. You should listen to me because I have dedicated thousands upon thousands of hours reading everything I can get my hands on and researching it.

The entire AGWCult has been caught repeatedly fudging the number and the IPCC outright admits its using AGW as a wealth redistribution scheme

Actually, it's worse than that....the IMF will be the one that will be in charge of collecting the carbon tax and it is owned by the same cabal of thieves that own the Fed bank, the Bank for International Settlements and the Global Bank....not one single penny will trickle down to the third world countries that they claim they want to help. They have been putting these countries into debt and making them put their natural resources up as collateral. They will use the money collected from the carbon tax to pay down the interest these third world countries owe the IMF. It is a scam of the highest order. Please tell me how by paying a tax to the banking oligarchs that own all the big oil companies and have suppressed petroleum free energy is going to "save the planet"......not one single liberal has an explanation.

You nailed it, it's control, the destruction of sovereignty and submission to world government -- it's doomed to fail

I hope that you are right but enough people need to wake up to this massive scam and confiscation of our meager earnings.

 

[PredFan]

Do we need any more evidence of global warming?

So what? Can you prove that humans caused it? No you can't and neither can the scientists.

 

[Fang]

Do we need any more evidence of global warming?

So when it's unseasonably cold it's because the jet steam is breaking down due to global warming. However, when it's unseasonably warm the jet stream must be fine and it's just plain 'ol global warming. Gotcha. You Liberals have really been in rare form lately. LOL This is all quite entertaining!

You are one silly ignorant ass. Had you done the slightest research, you would know that which side of the loop in the jet stream you are on, determines whether you are hot or cold. While you folks back east were having record cold, we were having record warmth out here in the West. Now we are having normal temperatures, but a record wet December. however, our summer and fall were also very warm.

I did plenty of research which is why I know you're full of shit. You're so angry! I love it! You Liberals don't like it when your own failed logic is thrown right back in your face. LOL

 

[mamooth]

Well, I am actually one of those that uses science to design and build things that are an aid to our military and industry. I am an electrical design engineer with am emphasis on instrumentation.

Meaning you're completely ignorant of the science. Why didn't you just say so?

I don't just read about science - I actually use it so go pound your self-proclaimed superiority somewhere else.

Our superiority complex is your fault, and the fault of all the other denier cultists here. You're all so dang stupid, it's impossible not to feel superior after reading your nonsense. Just look at you, a grownup who can't understand the difference between climate, weather and location. A second grader can grasp such things, but you can't.

You might get away with your snobbish little bigotry with a bunch of kids but you won't with me.

Did you think you're the first case of engineer's arrogance syndrome we've seen? That is, when an engineer who is deeply ignorant of everything outside his tiny specialty declares himself to be the authority on everything. A smart person understands his limitations. That's not you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, I am actually one of those that uses science to design and build things that are an aid to our military and industry. I am an electrical design engineer with am emphasis on instrumentation.

Meaning you're completely ignorant of the science. Why didn't you just say so?

I don't just read about science - I actually use it so go pound your self-proclaimed superiority somewhere else.

Our superiority complex is your fault, and the fault of all the other denier cultists here. You're all so dang stupid, it's impossible not to feel superior after reading your nonsense. Just look at you, a grownup who can't understand the difference between climate, weather and location. A second grader can grasp such things, but you can't.

You might get away with your snobbish little bigotry with a bunch of kids but you won't with me.

Did you think you're the first case of engineer's arrogance syndrome we've seen? That is, when an engineer who is deeply ignorant of everything outside his tiny specialty declares himself to be the authority on everything. A smart person understands his limitations. That's not you.

AGW has nothing in common with science. When I hear "Consensus" I think of:

 

[mamooth]

Deniers, have you noticed how tiny your conspiracy cult has become? It's now just the same few lunatics constantly baying at the moon. Even if you haven't noticed, everyone else has.

My advice, again, is to slip away into the jungle now, before the leaders of your dying cult decide to roll out the koolaid vat.

 

[Old Rocks]

Do we need any more evidence of global warming?

So when it's unseasonably cold it's because the jet steam is breaking down due to global warming. However, when it's unseasonably warm the jet stream must be fine and it's just plain 'ol global warming. Gotcha. You Liberals have really been in rare form lately. LOL This is all quite entertaining!

You are one silly ignorant ass. Had you done the slightest research, you would know that which side of the loop in the jet stream you are on, determines whether you are hot or cold. While you folks back east were having record cold, we were having record warmth out here in the West. Now we are having normal temperatures, but a record wet December. however, our summer and fall were also very warm.

I did plenty of research which is why I know you're full of shit. You're so angry! I love it! You Liberals don't like it when your own failed logic is thrown right back in your face. LOL

Our failed logic? The leaders of 195 nations just met and hammered out the initial agreement to scale back the amount of GHGs that we put into the atmosphere. In spite of ignoramouses like you spouting nonsense.

They did so on the vast consensus of scientists from every nation and culture. From every discipline involved with observing and measuring a changing climate, a change driven by the GHGs that we are putting into the atmosphere.

 

[Roudy]

Does anybody know why "Global Warming" suddenly became "Climate Change"? Anyone? Anyone?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Does anybody know why "Global Warming" suddenly became "Climate Change"? Anyone? Anyone?

Because there were 2 decades with no warming

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Do we need any more evidence of global warming?

So when it's unseasonably cold it's because the jet steam is breaking down due to global warming. However, when it's unseasonably warm the jet stream must be fine and it's just plain 'ol global warming. Gotcha. You Liberals have really been in rare form lately. LOL This is all quite entertaining!

You are one silly ignorant ass. Had you done the slightest research, you would know that which side of the loop in the jet stream you are on, determines whether you are hot or cold. While you folks back east were having record cold, we were having record warmth out here in the West. Now we are having normal temperatures, but a record wet December. however, our summer and fall were also very warm.

I did plenty of research which is why I know you're full of shit. You're so angry! I love it! You Liberals don't like it when your own failed logic is thrown right back in your face. LOL

Our failed logic? The leaders of 195 nations just met and hammered out the initial agreement to scale back the amount of GHGs that we put into the atmosphere. In spite of ignoramouses like you spouting nonsense.

They did so on the vast consensus of scientists from every nation and culture. From every discipline involved with observing and measuring a changing climate, a change driven by the GHGs that we are putting into the atmosphere.

195 nations all agree the USA should pay them.

Wow.

That's real science right there

 

[the_human_being]

Well, I am actually one of those that uses science to design and build things that are an aid to our military and industry. I am an electrical design engineer with am emphasis on instrumentation.

Meaning you're completely ignorant of the science. Why didn't you just say so?

I don't just read about science - I actually use it so go pound your self-proclaimed superiority somewhere else.

Our superiority complex is your fault, and the fault of all the other denier cultists here. You're all so dang stupid, it's impossible not to feel superior after reading your nonsense. Just look at you, a grownup who can't understand the difference between climate, weather and location. A second grader can grasp such things, but you can't.

You might get away with your snobbish little bigotry with a bunch of kids but you won't with me.

Did you think you're the first case of engineer's arrogance syndrome we've seen? That is, when an engineer who is deeply ignorant of everything outside his tiny specialty declares himself to be the authority on everything. A smart person understands his limitations. That's not you.

What's your degree in? Food service? Make up a real good one now. Are you even familiar with instrumentation and measurement? My last project was the design and construction of five state-of-the-art jet engine test facilities for the Navy. The instrumentation design required the data acquisition of several different points of temperature, thrust, torque, pressure and flow. The facilities are computer controlled and include safety monitoring and shutdown accommodating various scenarios. So again I ask, are you just some kind of little science teacher in a college talking theories or are you really into making science work?

 

[Roudy]

Do we need any more evidence of global warming?

So when it's unseasonably cold it's because the jet steam is breaking down due to global warming. However, when it's unseasonably warm the jet stream must be fine and it's just plain 'ol global warming. Gotcha. You Liberals have really been in rare form lately. LOL This is all quite entertaining!

You are one silly ignorant ass. Had you done the slightest research, you would know that which side of the loop in the jet stream you are on, determines whether you are hot or cold. While you folks back east were having record cold, we were having record warmth out here in the West. Now we are having normal temperatures, but a record wet December. however, our summer and fall were also very warm.

I did plenty of research which is why I know you're full of shit. You're so angry! I love it! You Liberals don't like it when your own failed logic is thrown right back in your face. LOL

Our failed logic? The leaders of 195 nations just met and hammered out the initial agreement to scale back the amount of GHGs that we put into the atmosphere. In spite of ignoramouses like you spouting nonsense.

They did so on the vast consensus of scientists from every nation and culture. From every discipline involved with observing and measuring a changing climate, a change driven by the GHGs that we are putting into the atmosphere.

195 nations all agree the USA should pay them.

Wow.

That's real science right there

The Sun, which is the single most important determinant of any warming or cooling that occurs in the Solar System, doesn't really care what "man" concocts, it will do what it wants:

GLOBAL COOLING: Decade long ice age predicted as sun 'hibernates'
Jon Austin
Tue, Dec 1, 2015 | UPDATED: 07:15, Tue, Dec 1, 2015

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The big freeze could last a decade as sun goes to sleep
A team of European researchers have unveiled a scientific model showing that the Earth is likely to experience a “mini ice age” from 2030 to 2040 as a result of decreased solar activity.

Their findings will infuriate environmental campaigners who argue by 2030 we could be facing increased sea levels and flooding due to glacial melt at the poles.

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However, at the National Astronomy Meeting in Wales, Northumbria University professor Valentina Zharkova said fluctuations an 11-year cycle of solar activity the sun goes through would be responsible for a freeze, the like of which has not been experienced since the 1600s.

From 1645 to 1715 global temperatures dropped due to low solar activity so much that the planet experienced a 70-year ice age known as Maunder Minimum which saw the River Thames in London completely frozen.

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The researchers have now developed a "double dynamo "model that can better predict when the next freeze will be.

Based on current cycles, they predict solar activity dwindling for ten years from 2030.

Professor Zharkova said two magnetic waves will cancel each other out in about 2030, leading to a drop in sun spots and solar flares of about 60 per cent.

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Sunspots are dark concentrations of magnetic field flux on the surface that reduce surface temperature in that area, while solar flares are burst of radiation and solar energy that fire out across the solar system, but the Earth's atmosphere protects us from the otherwise devastating effects.

She said: "In cycle 26, the two waves exactly mirror each other, peaking at the same time but in opposite hemispheres of the Sun.

"We predict that this will lead to the properties of a ‘Maunder minimum.

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t is 172 years since a scientist first spotted that the Sun’s activity varies over a cycle lasting around 10 to 12 years.

Royal Astronomical Society spokesman

“Over the cycle, the waves fluctuate between the Sun’s northern and southern hemispheres. Combining both waves together and comparing to real data for the current solar cycle, we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97 per cent."

Research colleagues Simon Shepherd of Bradford University, Helen Popova of Lomonosov Moscow State University and Sergei Zarkhov of the University of Hull used magnetic field observations from 1976 to 2008 at the Wilcox Solar Observatory at Stanford University.

A Royal Astronomical Society spokesman said: "It is 172 years since a scientist first spotted that the Sun’s activity varies over a cycle lasting around 10 to 12 years.

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The theory is likely to infuriate environmentalists who fear the globe is heating up

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Could you handle ten years of winter?
"But every cycle is a little different and none of the models of causes to date have fully explained fluctuations."

The “double dynamo” theory appears to support claims of researchers who argue Earth will soon experience major global cooling due to lower solar activity as the sun goes into a sustained period of hibernation.

Environmentalists meanwhile claim global temperatures will increase over the period unless we drastically reduce carbon emissions.

 

[the_human_being]

Do we need any more evidence of global warming?

So when it's unseasonably cold it's because the jet steam is breaking down due to global warming. However, when it's unseasonably warm the jet stream must be fine and it's just plain 'ol global warming. Gotcha. You Liberals have really been in rare form lately. LOL This is all quite entertaining!

You are one silly ignorant ass. Had you done the slightest research, you would know that which side of the loop in the jet stream you are on, determines whether you are hot or cold. While you folks back east were having record cold, we were having record warmth out here in the West. Now we are having normal temperatures, but a record wet December. however, our summer and fall were also very warm.

I did plenty of research which is why I know you're full of shit. You're so angry! I love it! You Liberals don't like it when your own failed logic is thrown right back in your face. LOL

Our failed logic? The leaders of 195 nations just met and hammered out the initial agreement to scale back the amount of GHGs that we put into the atmosphere. In spite of ignoramouses like you spouting nonsense.

They did so on the vast consensus of scientists from every nation and culture. From every discipline involved with observing and measuring a changing climate, a change driven by the GHGs that we are putting into the atmosphere.

I must agree that you certainly are expelling a lot of hot gas into the air right now.

 

[mamooth]

What's your degree in? Food service?

I have degrees in electrical engineering and physics, plus experience in running nuclear reactors and making aircraft instrumentation. Though I normally don't bring that up, as it's not relevant. Your knowledge is what matters, not your credentials.

Make up a real good one now.

I could say the same about you. But since I can talk intelligently about the science, I don't need such deflections.

Are you even familiar with instrumentation and measurement? My last project was the design and construction of five state-of-the-art jet engine test facilities for the Navy. The instrumentation design required the data acquisition of several different points of temperature, thrust, torque, pressure and flow. The facilities are computer controlled and include safety monitoring and shutdown accommodating various scenarios.

Familiar stuff, which is why I know it has zippo to do with climate science. The only part of electrical engineering that would help with climate science is the one statistics course you had to take, if indeed you had to take one. And maybe your freshman physics and chemistry.

So again I ask, are you just some kind of little science teacher in a college talking theories or are you really into making science work?

I am vastly superior to you at the science. So are Crick and Old Rocks. Our education and work helps somewhat with that, but it's mainly because we've spent so much time on our own researching the science. The real science, as opposed to political conspiracy blogs. Call it our hobby. The science is out there if you want to find it.

Of course, you let your true motivation show when you started ranting about liberals. Your politics dictates your science, just like the old Soviets. Every hardcore denier I've encountered, without exception, is a member of an extremist-right-wing political cult. Denialism isn't the actual cult, it's a required belief of the political cult. In contrast, the rational people come from every political faction all across the globe. That's because climate science is real science, and real science crosses all political boundaries.

 

[the_human_being]

What's your degree in? Food service?

I have degrees in electrical engineering and physics, plus experience in running nuclear reactors and making aircraft instrumentation. Though I normally don't bring that up, as it's not relevant. Your knowledge is what matters, not your credentials.

Make up a real good one now.

I could say the same about you. But since I can talk intelligently about the science, I don't need such deflections.

Are you even familiar with instrumentation and measurement? My last project was the design and construction of five state-of-the-art jet engine test facilities for the Navy. The instrumentation design required the data acquisition of several different points of temperature, thrust, torque, pressure and flow. The facilities are computer controlled and include safety monitoring and shutdown accommodating various scenarios.

Familiar stuff, which is why I know it has zippo to do with climate science. The only part of electrical engineering that would help with climate science is the one statistics course you had to take, if indeed you had to take one. And maybe your freshman physics and chemistry.

So again I ask, are you just some kind of little science teacher in a college talking theories or are you really into making science work?

I am vastly superior to you at the science. So are Crick and Old Rocks. Our education and work helps somewhat with that, but it's mainly because we've spent so much time on our own researching the science. The real science, as opposed to political conspiracy blogs. Call it our hobby. The science is out there if you want to find it.

Of course, you let your true motivation show when you started ranting about liberals. Your politics dictates your science, just like the old Soviets. Every hardcore denier I've encountered, without exception, is a member of an extremist-right-wing political cult. Denialism isn't the actual cult, it's a required belief of the political cult. In contrast, the rational people come from every political faction all across the globe. That's because climate science is real science, and real science crosses all political boundaries.

Therein lies your whole problem. There is no vast right wing conspiracy. That is what clouds the Liberal mind. There is only scientific evidence and scientific evidence is not there to support your dire predictions concerning climate change.

 

[mamooth]

Does anybody know why "Global Warming" suddenly became "Climate Change"? Anyone? Anyone?

Because the Bush administrations changed it. They wanted it to sound less threatening. Geez, learn your basic history, will ya?

I see you're predicting cooling. Again. Your side has been predicting a new ice age nonstop for decades. And instead, it just keeps warming strongly. Given your perfect record of failure in your predictions, why would anyone pay attention to you now?

In contrast, over those same decades, the real scientists have been very good with their predictions. That's why climate science has such credibility, because of its track record of being right.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

it's now called "The Weather Channel" flip it on and whatever the top story is....


....because MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING CLIMATE CHANGE!!