Dem 2020 Presidential platform: Ban 'assault weapons'!!!!'

[M14 Shooter]

This is a lie - nothing prevented the AR15 from being sold as a full-auto weapon when they hit the market more than 50 years ago.

Timmy has probably never heard of the Hughes Amendment and the 30 years of AR variants being sold as sporting rifles, NOT legal assault rifles.
He has no business participating in this discussion or voting on such things. He is ignorant on the topic.

Fully.

 

[Timmy]

Because of gun control laws . It’s still a weapon of war .

This is a lie.

No it’s not . You gun nerds love to make semantics arguments .

The reason AR’s are not automatics is because the manufacturers wouldn’t be able to legally sell them to the public . So they basically tweek the war weapon so it can pass. It’s still designed to kill lots of people .

AND - please tell me ANY modern military using this "military" weapon.

your SEMANTICS hits your own ass also, son. you can't even tell me what you want to ban other than that "military looking" rifle. and since that is your extend of understanding, its' easy to say you dont know shit.

What’s it designed for ? And don’t even try some bullshit nothing line like “sport hunting “.

 

[iceberg]

Because of gun control laws . It’s still a weapon of war .

This is a lie.

No it’s not . You gun nerds love to make semantics arguments .

The reason AR’s are not automatics is because the manufacturers wouldn’t be able to legally sell them to the public . So they basically tweek the war weapon so it can pass. It’s still designed to kill lots of people .

AND - please tell me ANY modern military using this "military" weapon.

your SEMANTICS hits your own ass also, son. you can't even tell me what you want to ban other than that "military looking" rifle. and since that is your extend of understanding, its' easy to say you dont know shit.

What’s it designed for ? And don’t even try some bullshit nothing line like “sport hunting “.

for people to shoot.

what do they do with *any* gun?

shoot 'em.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Because of gun control laws . It’s still a weapon of war .

This is a lie.

No it’s not . You gun nerds love to make semantics arguments .

The reason AR’s are not automatics is because the manufacturers wouldn’t be able to legally sell them to the public . So they basically tweek the war weapon so it can pass. It’s still designed to kill lots of people .

Go look up the Hughes Amendment, then show me ONE AR15 sold to the public with select-fire capabilities. For 30 years, the AR15 could have been sold to civilians as a select-fire weapon, but NEVER WAS!!!!

Question for you, Timmy:

The Ruger AR variant fires the 5.56/.223 round.

The Ranch Rifle (also Ruger) fires the 5.56/.223 round too

Which of the two weapons has the higher rate of fire?


For Reference:
Rate of Fire: the frequency at which a specific weapon can fire or launch its projectiles. It is usually measured in rounds per minute (RPM or round/min), or rounds per second (RPS or round/s).

 

[Timmy]

This is a lie - nothing prevented the AR15 from being sold as a full-auto weapon when they hit the market more than 50 years ago.

Timmy has probably never heard of the Hughes Amendment and the 30 years of AR variants being sold as sporting rifles, NOT legal assault rifles.

He has no business participating in this discussion or voting on such things. He is ignorant on the topic.

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The specs and laws have been fought over for years . Let’s cut to the chase . It’s a war weapon. Is good for mowing down people and causing damage .

 

[iceberg]

This is a lie - nothing prevented the AR15 from being sold as a full-auto weapon when they hit the market more than 50 years ago.

Timmy has probably never heard of the Hughes Amendment and the 30 years of AR variants being sold as sporting rifles, NOT legal assault rifles.

He has no business participating in this discussion or voting on such things. He is ignorant on the topic.

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The specs and laws have been fought over for years . Let’s cut to the chase . It’s a war weapon. Is good for mowing down people and causing damage .

how does it do it better than any other semi-automatic gun?

the problem is your bullshit ignorance of firearms slaps your own face and since you CANNOT say exactly what should be banned, you just revert to bullshit like this and want it all banned.

no sense on learning, just bring people down to your level. yea, that's the ticket.

 

[Timmy]

Because of gun control laws . It’s still a weapon of war .

This is a lie.

No it’s not . You gun nerds love to make semantics arguments .

The reason AR’s are not automatics is because the manufacturers wouldn’t be able to legally sell them to the public . So they basically tweek the war weapon so it can pass. It’s still designed to kill lots of people .

Go look up the Hughes Amendment, then show me ONE AR15 sold to the public with select-fire capabilities. For 30 years, the AR15 could have been sold to civilians as a select-fire weapon, but NEVER WAS!!!!

Question for you, Timmy:

The Ruger AR variant fires the 5.56/.223 round.

The Ranch Rifle (also Ruger) fires the 5.56/.223 round too

Which of the two weapons has the higher rate of fire?


For Reference:
Rate of Fire: the frequency at which a specific weapon can fire or launch its projectiles. It is usually measured in rounds per minute (RPM or round/min), or rounds per second (RPS or round/s).

Gun nerd. What are they designed for ?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Because of gun control laws . It’s still a weapon of war .

This is a lie.

No it’s not . You gun nerds love to make semantics arguments .

The reason AR’s are not automatics is because the manufacturers wouldn’t be able to legally sell them to the public . So they basically tweek the war weapon so it can pass. It’s still designed to kill lots of people .

AND - please tell me ANY modern military using this "military" weapon.

your SEMANTICS hits your own ass also, son. you can't even tell me what you want to ban other than that "military looking" rifle. and since that is your extend of understanding, its' easy to say you dont know shit.

What’s it designed for ? And don’t even try some bullshit nothing line like “sport hunting “.

Timmy, we keep going back and forth on this because you refuse to accept the original intent and design of ALL FIREARMS.

Please tell me which gun is NOT designed to shoot people, or which is NOT based on a firearm designed to shoot people.

THE FIREARM WAS DESIGNED FOR WAR!

Can we all agree on that point?

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Gun nerd. What are they designed for ?

Again, Timmy, please list all firearms that were NOT designed to shoot people in war, or based on firearms designed for that purpose.

FIREARMS WERE INVENTED FOR WAR!!!



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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Because of gun control laws . It’s still a weapon of war .

This is a lie.

No it’s not . You gun nerds love to make semantics arguments .

The reason AR’s are not automatics is because the manufacturers wouldn’t be able to legally sell them to the public . So they basically tweek the war weapon so it can pass. It’s still designed to kill lots of people .

Go look up the Hughes Amendment, then show me ONE AR15 sold to the public with select-fire capabilities. For 30 years, the AR15 could have been sold to civilians as a select-fire weapon, but NEVER WAS!!!!

Question for you, Timmy:

The Ruger AR variant fires the 5.56/.223 round.

The Ranch Rifle (also Ruger) fires the 5.56/.223 round too

Which of the two weapons has the higher rate of fire?


For Reference:
Rate of Fire: the frequency at which a specific weapon can fire or launch its projectiles. It is usually measured in rounds per minute (RPM or round/min), or rounds per second (RPS or round/s).

Gun nerd. What are they designed for ?

What the fuck?

Let's simply look at the fucking RANCH RIFLE for Odin's sake:

The Ranch Rifle is based on the Ruger Mini-14 GB, DESIGNED FOR MILITARY USE!!!!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

PICK A FIREARM, TIMMY. I will show you the MILITARY ORIGIN of each one.

The firearm itself was invented and designed for MILITARY USE.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I am still waiting for you to name a firearm that was not designed for military use, or based on a firearm designed for such use, Timmy.

Are you still with us?

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[M14 Shooter]

What’s it designed for ?

Any of the traditionally legal purposes for a firearm.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The specs and laws have been fought over for years . Let’s cut to the chase . It’s a war weapon. Is good for mowing down people and causing damage .

What war was fought with this rifle?
What military issues this rifle?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The musket - first came about as a variant of the matchlock arquebus, which had appeared in the Ottoman Empire in the first half of the 15th century, and then in Europe around 1475. The arquebus was used in relatively high ratios by the Ottoman army against the Hungarians in the mid-15th century.

In other words, the FUCKING MUSKET was designed for MILITARY USE.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...on_in_the_Ottoman_Empire_and_Russia_1500-1800


What about the shotgun?

That's based on the Brown Bess MUSKET. And all muskets were capable of firing "shots" (small, round projectiles).

Has a non-military gun EVER EXISTED?

Please tell us, Timmy.

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[2aguy]

This is a lie - nothing prevented the AR15 from being sold as a full-auto weapon when they hit the market more than 50 years ago.

Timmy has probably never heard of the Hughes Amendment and the 30 years of AR variants being sold as sporting rifles, NOT legal assault rifles.

He has no business participating in this discussion or voting on such things. He is ignorant on the topic.

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The specs and laws have been fought over for years . Let’s cut to the chase . It’s a war weapon. Is good for mowing down people and causing damage .

It's not a war weapon, it can't fire select fire. Our military will not use them. Our military currently uses Bolt Action Rifles, and 5 shot, pump action shotguns....but they do not use the AR-15.

And on top of this......the AR-15 is protected by the 2nd Amendment...by name.....Justice Scalia, the guy who wrote the majority opinion in the Heller decision, named it it Friedman v Highland Park, and all other semi-automatic rifles as protected by the 2nd Amendment...

You have no legal way to ban or confiscate them.....

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-133_7l48.pdf


That analysis misreads Heller. The question under Heller is not whether citizens have adequate alternatives available for self-defense.


Rather, Heller asks whether the law bans types of firearms commonly used for a lawful purpose—regardless of whether alternatives exist. 554 U. S., at 627–629. And Heller draws a distinction between such firearms and weapons specially adapted to unlawful uses and not in common use, such as sawed-off shotguns. Id., at 624–625.


The City’s ban is thus highly suspect because it broadly prohibits common semiautomatic firearms used for lawful purposes.


Roughly five million Americans own AR-style semiautomatic rifles. See 784 F. 3d, at 415, n. 3. The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting. See ibid. Under our precedents, that is all that is needed for citizens to have a right under the Second Amendment to keep such weapons. See McDonald, 561 U. S., at 767–768; Heller, supra, at 628–629.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Because of gun control laws . It’s still a weapon of war .

This is a lie.

No it’s not . You gun nerds love to make semantics arguments .

The reason AR’s are not automatics is because the manufacturers wouldn’t be able to legally sell them to the public . So they basically tweek the war weapon so it can pass. It’s still designed to kill lots of people .

You gun grabbers love to make emotional arguments full of ignorance.

"The reason ARs are not automatics is because the manufacturers deliberately made them to obey the law, that's all!" Uh, yeah, and your point is?

Only someone who has no fucking clue what sort of "tweaks" are involved - and doesn't care - would try to give us this dismissive twaddle about "It's the same gun . . . only changed!" and think it's going to work on anyone who has more brains than you - which is damned near everyone.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Because of gun control laws . It’s still a weapon of war .

This is a lie.

No it’s not . You gun nerds love to make semantics arguments .

The reason AR’s are not automatics is because the manufacturers wouldn’t be able to legally sell them to the public . So they basically tweek the war weapon so it can pass. It’s still designed to kill lots of people .

AND - please tell me ANY modern military using this "military" weapon.

your SEMANTICS hits your own ass also, son. you can't even tell me what you want to ban other than that "military looking" rifle. and since that is your extend of understanding, its' easy to say you dont know shit.

What’s it designed for ? And don’t even try some bullshit nothing line like “sport hunting “.

"Answer this question . . . and don't answer it truthfully if it's not what I want to hear!"

Still waiting on you or any of your other panty-boy compatriots to tell ME what specific "frightening" similarities you're gassing on about between the AR15 and the M16, beyond the fact that they're both firearms and you're scared white of them.

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is a lie - nothing prevented the AR15 from being sold as a full-auto weapon when they hit the market more than 50 years ago.

Timmy has probably never heard of the Hughes Amendment and the 30 years of AR variants being sold as sporting rifles, NOT legal assault rifles.

He has no business participating in this discussion or voting on such things. He is ignorant on the topic.

.

The specs and laws have been fought over for years . Let’s cut to the chase . It’s a war weapon. Is good for mowing down people and causing damage .

"Never mind the discussions. Let's cut to the chase and just accept my opinion as fact!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is a lie - nothing prevented the AR15 from being sold as a full-auto weapon when they hit the market more than 50 years ago.

Timmy has probably never heard of the Hughes Amendment and the 30 years of AR variants being sold as sporting rifles, NOT legal assault rifles.

He has no business participating in this discussion or voting on such things. He is ignorant on the topic.

.

The specs and laws have been fought over for years . Let’s cut to the chase . It’s a war weapon. Is good for mowing down people and causing damage .

how does it do it better than any other semi-automatic gun?

the problem is your bullshit ignorance of firearms slaps your own face and since you CANNOT say exactly what should be banned, you just revert to bullshit like this and want it all banned.

no sense on learning, just bring people down to your level. yea, that's the ticket.

Well, the only chance he has at winning an argument is for everyone else to be as imbecilic as he is, so that he can beat them with his greater experience.