Dem Lawmakers Want to Ban Gas-Powered Vehicles in U.S. by 2035

[Silhouette]

Toyota Mirai – The Turning Point
Hydrogen car ^^


Hydrogen comes from separating the water molecule. When it burns, it recombines with oxygen to form water. Toyota has a car fueled from water. We've known about this technology for a long time now. BigOil payed a lot of money to by patents for many decades. Then came Obama who blew their BS out of the water. I don't have much good to say about our ex affirmative-action president other than he was the biggest champion of green energy we've seen. Why must we require that the substance we use to combust in our engines be prone to polluting the environment from it's extraction from the earth, to refining and the noxious fumes out the tailpipe? Especially if we have another clean combustible fuel as an alternative.

 

[ptbw forever]

THEY’RE NORMAL PEOPLE, FILLED WITH CONCERN FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS: And other fables.

Maybe by then the American people will have Banned Dem Lawmakers?

Leftist controlled California doesn't even have enough electricity to keep the lights on now. And zero plans to resolve the issue.

Dem Lawmakers Want to Ban Gas-Powered Vehicles in U.S. by 2035

Internal combustion is for pussies

You are in error.

Internal combustion:

Car for pussies:

My uncle has a KIA that looks more like the vehicle on the bottom, but he is anything but a pussy.

I don't even know how he fits in it.

 

[Silhouette]

The size of the car isn't the issue here. It's how it's propelled forward. You can design a hydrogen car or a biodiesel truck to be any way you like. Commuters are small. Or haven't you been to a large city recently and seen this?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Toyota Mirai – The Turning Point
Hydrogen car ^^


Hydrogen comes from separating the water molecule. When it burns, it recombines with oxygen to form water. Toyota has a car fueled from water. We've known about this technology for a long time now. BigOil payed a lot of money to by patents for many decades. Then came Obama who blew their BS out of the water. I don't have much good to say about our ex affirmative-action president other than he was the biggest champion of green energy we've seen. Why must we require that the substance we use to combust in our engines be prone to polluting the environment from it's extraction from the earth, to refining and the noxious fumes out the tailpipe? Especially if we have another clean combustible fuel as an alternative.

How does the water get separated from the water molecule? It takes energy. It takes more energy to break apart the water molecule into hydrogen and oxygen. Therefore, it is a net loss of energy to burn hydrogen and recreate energy.

 

[Silhouette]

Hydrogen comes from separating the water molecule. When it burns, it recombines with oxygen to form water. Toyota has a car fueled from water. We've known about this technology for a long time now. BigOil payed a lot of money to by patents for many decades. Then came Obama who blew their BS out of the water. I don't have much good to say about our ex affirmative-action president other than he was the biggest champion of green energy we've seen. Why must we require that the substance we use to combust in our engines be prone to polluting the environment from it's extraction from the earth, to refining and the noxious fumes out the tailpipe? Especially if we have another clean combustible fuel as an alternative.

How does the water get separated from the water molecule? It takes energy. It takes more energy to break apart the water molecule into hydrogen and oxygen. Therefore, it is a net loss of energy to burn hydrogen and recreate energy.[/QUOTE]
No, electrolysis using PV energy does the trick. Solar.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Hydrogen comes from separating the water molecule. When it burns, it recombines with oxygen to form water. Toyota has a car fueled from water. We've known about this technology for a long time now. BigOil payed a lot of money to by patents for many decades. Then came Obama who blew their BS out of the water. I don't have much good to say about our ex affirmative-action president other than he was the biggest champion of green energy we've seen. Why must we require that the substance we use to combust in our engines be prone to polluting the environment from it's extraction from the earth, to refining and the noxious fumes out the tailpipe? Especially if we have another clean combustible fuel as an alternative.

How does the water get separated from the water molecule? It takes energy. It takes more energy to break apart the water molecule into hydrogen and oxygen. Therefore, it is a net loss of energy to burn hydrogen and recreate energy.

No, electrolysis using PV energy does the trick. Solar.[/QUOTE]

Do you have any idea how big a solar array would have to be in order to create the energy needed to do that? Of course you don't! You just read it somewhere and never questioned a dubious claim.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Haven't you realized by now? That is what Silly ALWAYS does. She posts pixie-dust and unicorn-fart BS, then just regurgitates it again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

 

[Missourian]

We've had electric golf carts for a half a century, but it never translated into an affordable electric lawn tractor, much less an affordable, reliable automobile.

The problem will always be chargability.

Until there is a charging system that fills up the battery in the time it takes to hit the bathroom, grab a cup of coffee and a slice of pizza...it isn't going to replace the internal combustion engine.

And for those of us who work on our own vehicles...electric will never replace combustion...even if we have to convert to ethanol and distill our own fuel.

 

[Manonthestreet]

How bout this pollution lowering climate saving mandate, everyone must live closer to their job.....the further away you live the more you are taxed to save gaia

 

[Rexx Taylor]

my main concern with the dems is whether they ban maxine waters from speaking in public/live TV by 2035

 

[Silhouette]

Do you have any idea how big a solar array would have to be in order to create the energy needed to do that? Of course you don't! You just read it somewhere and never questioned a dubious claim.

Yes I do. I've seen a 5,000 square foot aqua business with circulators, pumps, lighting and heating fueled by hydrogen gotten via electrolysis from a solar panel array that measured about 30x15 feet. Hydrogen harvested is stored on site for use as needed to run a generator. The tank looked to be about 2,000 gallons. I imagine for hydrogen service stations you'd need a couple of acres of panels and much larger tanks. Which is not impossible. Most service stations seem to occupy about 1/4-1/2 acre anyway. And where they derive the hydrogen is water, slightly saline if memory serves. In drier climates near the ocean linear solar thermal arrays can distill a less saline water like they're doing in CA already: Next Step for Solar Desalination in California

I guess just let old California take the lead on hydrogen cars and the rest of the nation can catch up.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

How bout this pollution lowering climate saving mandate, everyone must live closer to their job.....the further away you live the more you are taxed to save gaia

That would, of course, hit a lot of workers in the construction-related trades very hard. As an electrician, I'm not going to move my home every time I finish one project and begin another. My current project is a 65-mile drive from home for me; I have to drive about 130 miles each day to get to and from work. I've just recently learned that my next project is going to be much closer. But who knows yet, where the next project after that will be?

That's a suggestion that plays right into the contempt that left wrong-wing filth seem to have for working-class Americans. If I were to quit my job, and find a way to live on government-based welfare instead, then I wouldn't have to drive so much to get to work.

 

[Manonthestreet]

How bout this pollution lowering climate saving mandate, everyone must live closer to their job.....the further away you live the more you are taxed to save gaia

That would, of course, hit a lot of workers in the construction-related trades very hard. As an electrician, I'm not going to move my home every time I finish one project and begin another. My current project is a 65-mile drive from home for me; I have to drive about 130 miles each day to get to and from work. I've just recently learned that my next project is going to be much closer. But who knows yet, where the next project after that will be?

That's a suggestion that plays right into the contempt that left wrong-wing filth seem to have for working-class Americans. If I were to quit my job, and find a way to live on government-based welfare instead, then I wouldn't have to drive so much to get to work.

But we need to save the planet.............plus we can make exceptions for people like you.........say people who work in fixed facility x number of days a yr......or we could mandate carpooling.......all govt workers especially

 

[Manonthestreet]

Bottom line when govt mandates a market they generally screw it up and reduce incentives to improve it because you have no other choice.

 

[Brain357]

THEY’RE NORMAL PEOPLE, FILLED WITH CONCERN FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS: And other fables.

Maybe by then the American people will have Banned Dem Lawmakers?

Leftist controlled California doesn't even have enough electricity to keep the lights on now. And zero plans to resolve the issue.

Dem Lawmakers Want to Ban Gas-Powered Vehicles in U.S. by 2035

Sounds like it would be really bad for the middle east, sounds ok to me.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

But we need to save the planet.............

The planet is in no danger.

Quote by Michael Crichton: “You think man can destroy the planet? What into...”

plus we can make exceptions for people like you.........say people who work in fixed facility x number of days a yr......

…which would violate the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause. It ought to be obvious, and I am amazed at how it is too often not to too many people, that if a law needs to have such exceptions carved out in it, then it's a bad law to begin with.

or we could mandate carpooling.......all govt workers especially

Right. As it is, I have to drive sixty-five miles each way, in a car stuffed with the tools of my trade, to the site where I am currently working. Another day, I might be working at a different site. How am I supposed to make carpooling work?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Do you have any idea how big a solar array would have to be in order to create the energy needed to do that? Of course you don't! You just read it somewhere and never questioned a dubious claim.

Yes I do. I've seen a 5,000 square foot aqua business with circulators, pumps, lighting and heating fueled by hydrogen gotten via electrolysis from a solar panel array that measured about 30x15 feet. Hydrogen harvested is stored on site for use as needed to run a generator. The tank looked to be about 2,000 gallons. I imagine for hydrogen service stations you'd need a couple of acres of panels and much larger tanks. Which is not impossible. Most service stations seem to occupy about 1/4-1/2 acre anyway. And where they derive the hydrogen is water, slightly saline if memory serves. In drier climates near the ocean linear solar thermal arrays can distill a less saline water like they're doing in CA already: Next Step for Solar Desalination in California

I guess just let old California take the lead on hydrogen cars and the rest of the nation can catch up.

Tell us how well that system will work in the persistent fog around San Francisco.

Or in Minnesota, buried under 6 feet of snow all winter.

Or in Seattle where the sun shines only about 2 months out of every year.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How bout this pollution lowering climate saving mandate, everyone must live closer to their job.....the further away you live the more you are taxed to save gaia

That would, of course, hit a lot of workers in the construction-related trades very hard. As an electrician, I'm not going to move my home every time I finish one project and begin another. My current project is a 65-mile drive from home for me; I have to drive about 130 miles each day to get to and from work. I've just recently learned that my next project is going to be much closer. But who knows yet, where the next project after that will be?

That's a suggestion that plays right into the contempt that left wrong-wing filth seem to have for working-class Americans. If I were to quit my job, and find a way to live on government-based welfare instead, then I wouldn't have to drive so much to get to work.

My wife drives about the same 130 miles to work each day. Her car gets in the high 30s MPG.

If you could pick up my home and land and deposit it about where she works, I would be living on property worth at least 10 times what I paid for it out here in the country. I like living in an area, where you have a little distance so that when your neighbor's house burns, it doesn't take yours too. My son lives about 45 miles south of Seattle. If his window and the neighbors windows are up, they can shake hands without ever leaving the house.

 

[Manonthestreet]

But we need to save the planet.............

The planet is in no danger.

Quote by Michael Crichton: “You think man can destroy the planet? What into...”

plus we can make exceptions for people like you.........say people who work in fixed facility x number of days a yr......

…which would violate the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause. It ought to be obvious, and I am amazed at how it is too often not to too many people, that if a law needs to have such exceptions carved out in it, then it's a bad law to begin with.

or we could mandate carpooling.......all govt workers especially

Right. As it is, I have to drive sixty-five miles each way, in a car stuffed with the tools of my trade, to the site where I am currently working. Another day, I might be working at a different site. How am I supposed to make carpooling work?

Bottom line when govt mandates a market they generally screw it up and reduce incentives to improve it because you have no other choice.

See this should have tipped you off i was messing with the mandaters........

 

[Jarlaxle]

How bout this pollution lowering climate saving mandate, everyone must live closer to their job.....the further away you live the more you are taxed to save gaia

My friend would either love or hate that. Officially, he works close to 200 miles from home. However, he has no commute: he does HVAC service, and brings his service van home.