Democracy: Yes or No

[Wry Catcher]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

There is no threat to democracy here.....are you really this stupid?

Thanks for sharing, once again your post goes well beyond ignorance, and proves you are what you claim others are.

The OP is a question, one which you cannot understand because you are like an ostrich with your head stuck in the sand.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Do you see anywhere in Sec. 2 which gives the president the power to vacate service or quash a subpoena?

You act as if this doesn't exist.
Executive privilege - Wikipedia

Only when a Democrat is President.

I don't think you are stupid, but I've been wrong before. The facts that everyone knows, and no one on your side of the argument will admit, is trump has surrounded himself with liars, cheats and crooks. All like himself.

Did you you notice how you did not address his post? Or mine?
I did. I bet he did, too.

Two points:

• Executive Privilege is not a power invested in the presidency - see Art II of the Constitution
• Trump's use of Executive Privilege is toxic, he uses it to keep secrets from the public

 

[Wry Catcher]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

Democracy ends at the State lines, every person elected to serve in federal offices are elected by the States. That is exactly what is prescribed by the Constitution, hence we are a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Vote totals within each State are the only ones that count. Period, end of story.

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The states are a democracy

And the democracy of the states wins

With certain limits. Like with the electoral college

But a democracy high enough can change the constitution

Our democracy now has advanced to the suicide part

Lowest iqs ever voting

And each cycle another record low iqs voting

Straight to suicide

Unless the high logics rises up and uses its real power

As I said, democracy ends at the State lines.


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No one care what you believe, most of it is fantasy and/or wishful thinking.

Well commie, tell the class where you cast a ballot that counts outside of your State.

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Well Nazi, that is a ridiculous question. In a representative democracy, aka, a democratic republic we vote for candidates who represent us. Thus, in the election for President, we have the choice to vote for a slate of electors who will (nearly always) vote for the candidate the voter supported.

We do not live in a direct democracy in national matters, something you know, but as usual interpret things to fit your ideology - in short, you're too often dishonest.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Democracy ends at the State lines, every person elected to serve in federal offices are elected by the States. That is exactly what is prescribed by the Constitution, hence we are a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Vote totals within each State are the only ones that count. Period, end of story.

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The states are a democracy

And the democracy of the states wins

With certain limits. Like with the electoral college

But a democracy high enough can change the constitution

Our democracy now has advanced to the suicide part

Lowest iqs ever voting

And each cycle another record low iqs voting

Straight to suicide

Unless the high logics rises up and uses its real power

As I said, democracy ends at the State lines.


.

No one care what you believe, most of it is fantasy and/or wishful thinking.

Well commie, tell the class where you cast a ballot that counts outside of your State.

.

Well Nazi, that is a ridiculous question. In a representative democracy, aka, a democratic republic we vote for candidates who represent us. Thus, in the election for President, we have the choice to vote for a slate of electors who will (nearly always) vote for the candidate the voter supported.

We do not live in a direct democracy in national matters, something you know, but as usual interpret things to fit your ideology - in short, you're too often dishonest.

Exactly

 

[GreenAndBlue]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

There is no threat to democracy here.....are you really this stupid?

The threat is how we have record low iQs voting in crooks

Our founders intent was to stop the unwise from voting and let the wise control the govt

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Do you see anywhere in Sec. 2 which gives the president the power to vacate service or quash a subpoena?

You act as if this doesn't exist.
Executive privilege - Wikipedia

Within limits. Trump's using it to obstruct justice - way out in the outer limits. You know that, you simply don't care what trump does to the rules of law, our Constitution or to the values and ethos of real Americans.

Trump has won the democracy of highest logic ability people


White men

 

[Norman]

We are not a democracy. Voting rights should be restricted, they are not serving the interest of the nation.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Only nut jobs at Fox Rupert Murdoch rush Savage etc etc agree with you. I have every respected media in the world.

Wrong

Democracy of men agrees

Democracy of white men in a landslide agrees

Trump has the real power

 

[Wry Catcher]

Do you see anywhere in Sec. 2 which gives the president the power to vacate service or quash a subpoena?

You act as if this doesn't exist.
Executive privilege - Wikipedia

Within limits. Trump's using it to obstruct justice - way out in the outer limits. You know that, you simply don't care what trump does to the rules of law, our Constitution or to the values and ethos of real Americans.

Trump has won the democracy of highest logic ability people


White men

Wrong. But, I can't make an argument GreenAndBlue people are logical or even sane.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

We are not a democracy. Voting rights should be restricted, they are not serving the interest of the nation.

Our founders intent was to limit democracy to only the most wise voters

We are a democracy but it's limited

But even tho it's limited we still
Will commit suicide

Because it was limited It took many years to build to this suicide

This will go back to the universal law

Might makes right

White males will change the nation back to a very restricted democracy of only the prophets voting. And then a much longer time to build again to suicide

 

[OKTexas]

Democracy ends at the State lines, every person elected to serve in federal offices are elected by the States. That is exactly what is prescribed by the Constitution, hence we are a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Vote totals within each State are the only ones that count. Period, end of story.

.

The states are a democracy

And the democracy of the states wins

With certain limits. Like with the electoral college

But a democracy high enough can change the constitution

Our democracy now has advanced to the suicide part

Lowest iqs ever voting

And each cycle another record low iqs voting

Straight to suicide

Unless the high logics rises up and uses its real power

As I said, democracy ends at the State lines.


.

No one care what you believe, most of it is fantasy and/or wishful thinking.

Well commie, tell the class where you cast a ballot that counts outside of your State.

.

Well Nazi, that is a ridiculous question. In a representative democracy, aka, a democratic republic we vote for candidates who represent us. Thus, in the election for President, we have the choice to vote for a slate of electors who will (nearly always) vote for the candidate the voter supported.

We do not live in a direct democracy in national matters, something you know, but as usual interpret things to fit your ideology - in short, you're too often dishonest.

Each State "elects" people to represent them, and to summarize your ill-written post, democracy ends at each States lines, then it's up to our elected representatives.

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[GreenAndBlue]

Trump will bring back the universal law

Might makes right

He has that power

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The states are a democracy

And the democracy of the states wins

With certain limits. Like with the electoral college

But a democracy high enough can change the constitution

Our democracy now has advanced to the suicide part

Lowest iqs ever voting

And each cycle another record low iqs voting

Straight to suicide

Unless the high logics rises up and uses its real power

As I said, democracy ends at the State lines.


.

No one care what you believe, most of it is fantasy and/or wishful thinking.

Well commie, tell the class where you cast a ballot that counts outside of your State.

.

Well Nazi, that is a ridiculous question. In a representative democracy, aka, a democratic republic we vote for candidates who represent us. Thus, in the election for President, we have the choice to vote for a slate of electors who will (nearly always) vote for the candidate the voter supported.

We do not live in a direct democracy in national matters, something you know, but as usual interpret things to fit your ideology - in short, you're too often dishonest.

Each State "elects" people to represent them, and to summarize your ill-written post, democracy ends at each States lines, then it's up to our elected representatives.

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Yes that's the limited democracy

But still being a democracy suicide will come

The more restrictions the longer time before might makes right takes over to bring more restricted democracies

The most strict democracy will be a very high logical ability test for voting . Only the prophets will be able to pass

 

[Uncensored2008]

American isnt a democracy,,,,

Lenin's Soviet Union was, though - and that's what Wry Catcher is angling for.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

We are not a democracy. Voting rights should be restricted, they are not serving the interest of the nation.

We are a democracy

Just not a direct or pure democracy

We have restrictions

A democracy is when the voters controls the govt and that's what we have

The voters by voting can stop all parts of the govt in time

 

[GreenAndBlue]

American isnt a democracy,,,,

Lenin's Soviet Union was, though - and that's what Wry Catcher is angling for.

The wider the democracy the faster it gets to the suicide phase cycle

 

[GreenAndBlue]

But all democracies ends in suicide

And then the men brings in the universal law of might makes right

And makes more restrictions for only the prophets can vote

 

[EvilCat Breath]

When republicans talk about voting they mean American citizens voting in American elections. When democrats talk about voting they mean as much of the world that can get a toenail here.

 

[Uncensored2008]

When republicans talk about voting they mean American citizens voting in American elections. When democrats talk about voting they mean as much of the world that can get a toenail here.

The Soviet Union had elections for everything. Neighbors would vote on who would be allowed to eat, or sleep indoors. The issue was WHO was allowed to vote, and WHO were they allowed to vote for.

The Communists control that and voting is just savagery.

Look at what Stalinist California is doing;

No tax returns, no running for president – Daily Democrat

Stalinists don't change - the goal is to rule with an iron fist.

 

[Uncensored2008]

We are not a democracy. Voting rights should be restricted, they are not serving the interest of the nation.

We are a democracy

Just not a direct or pure democracy

We have restrictions

A democracy is when the voters controls the govt and that's what we have

The voters by voting can stop all parts of the govt in time

Nope, we are a representative republic. We elect representatives, we do not directly effect policy.