Democracy: Yes or No

[daveman]

Only nut jobs at Fox Rupert Murdoch rush Savage etc etc agree with you. I have every respected media in the world.

Wrong

Democracy of men agrees

Democracy of white men in a landslide agrees

Trump has the real power

Good little Nazi you would make. Get some fresh air and read some newspapers. Your propaganda machine doesn't really have any.

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

Wow. It's like you just copied and pasted a list of talking points from the Communist Party USA website.

 

[daveman]

Do you see anywhere in Sec. 2 which gives the president the power to vacate service or quash a subpoena?

You act as if this doesn't exist.
Executive privilege - Wikipedia

Only when a Democrat is President.

I don't think you are stupid, but I've been wrong before. The facts that everyone knows, and no one on your side of the argument will admit, is trump has surrounded himself with liars, cheats and crooks. All like himself.

He has fired those who say no, you can't do that donnie, and hired those who will allow him to ignore the rule of law and obstructs justice.

Trump and the current Republican Party and its fellow travelers have shit on the Constitution, and you know that too. The party that abhors regulations, chooses to support policies and regulations to convince the biddable that they are in fact equivalent to laws when it fits their needs.

Oh, stop pretending you give a shit about the Constitution. You never gave a damn when Obama did his end runs around it.

You know -- exactly as you were ordered to do.

Like what end runs, super duper?

You won't accept it, because it doesn't suck Obama's ass, but here you go.

 

[whitehall]

American democracy "on the brink" because congress wants to take a look at some redacted junk? Take a deep breath lefties, your TDS is showing.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Only nut jobs at Fox Rupert Murdoch rush Savage etc etc agree with you. I have every respected media in the world.

Wrong

Democracy of men agrees

Democracy of white men in a landslide agrees

Trump has the real power

Good little Nazi you would make. Get some fresh air and read some newspapers. Your propaganda machine doesn't really have any.

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

/——/ What part of The National Socialist German Workers' Party confuses you?

 

[francoHFW]

Only nut jobs at Fox Rupert Murdoch rush Savage etc etc agree with you. I have every respected media in the world.

Wrong

Democracy of men agrees

Democracy of white men in a landslide agrees

Trump has the real power

Good little Nazi you would make. Get some fresh air and read some newspapers. Your propaganda machine doesn't really have any.

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

Wow. It's like you just copied and pasted a list of talking points from the Communist Party USA website.

They're basically out of business, and you are a brainwashed functional moron dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP duh. We are the only rich country, and the richest by the way,that doesn't have all those things you said it is because of brainwashed GOP dupes like you.

 

[francoHFW]

You act as if this doesn't exist.
Executive privilege - Wikipedia

Only when a Democrat is President.

I don't think you are stupid, but I've been wrong before. The facts that everyone knows, and no one on your side of the argument will admit, is trump has surrounded himself with liars, cheats and crooks. All like himself.

He has fired those who say no, you can't do that donnie, and hired those who will allow him to ignore the rule of law and obstructs justice.

Trump and the current Republican Party and its fellow travelers have shit on the Constitution, and you know that too. The party that abhors regulations, chooses to support policies and regulations to convince the biddable that they are in fact equivalent to laws when it fits their needs.

Oh, stop pretending you give a shit about the Constitution. You never gave a damn when Obama did his end runs around it.

You know -- exactly as you were ordered to do.

Like what end runs, super duper?

You won't accept it, because it doesn't suck Obama's ass, but here you go.

Highly debatable propaganda.

 

[daveman]

Wrong

Democracy of men agrees

Democracy of white men in a landslide agrees

Trump has the real power

Good little Nazi you would make. Get some fresh air and read some newspapers. Your propaganda machine doesn't really have any.

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

Wow. It's like you just copied and pasted a list of talking points from the Communist Party USA website.

They're basically out of business, and you are a brainwashed functional moron dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP duh. We are the only rich country, and the richest by the way,that doesn't have all those things you said it is because of brainwashed GOP dupes like you.

Poor little Commie. :-(

 

[daveman]

Only when a Democrat is President.

I don't think you are stupid, but I've been wrong before. The facts that everyone knows, and no one on your side of the argument will admit, is trump has surrounded himself with liars, cheats and crooks. All like himself.

He has fired those who say no, you can't do that donnie, and hired those who will allow him to ignore the rule of law and obstructs justice.

Trump and the current Republican Party and its fellow travelers have shit on the Constitution, and you know that too. The party that abhors regulations, chooses to support policies and regulations to convince the biddable that they are in fact equivalent to laws when it fits their needs.

Oh, stop pretending you give a shit about the Constitution. You never gave a damn when Obama did his end runs around it.

You know -- exactly as you were ordered to do.

Like what end runs, super duper?

You won't accept it, because it doesn't suck Obama's ass, but here you go.

Highly debatable propaganda.

You're so predictable.

But in your defense, I do have to say it's because you're a moron.

 

[francoHFW]

Only nut jobs at Fox Rupert Murdoch rush Savage etc etc agree with you. I have every respected media in the world.

Wrong

Democracy of men agrees

Democracy of white men in a landslide agrees

Trump has the real power

Good little Nazi you would make. Get some fresh air and read some newspapers. Your propaganda machine doesn't really have any.

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

/——/ What part of The National Socialist German Workers' Party confuses you?

So you believe all right-wing propaganda then, super duper? Socialists are always democratic and are not Nazis. What they really meant was they had a war economy with socialist benefits, paid for by debt and Jewish confiscations. Not leftist at all. That is a brand new theory that disgusts all historians, just GOP propaganda. To confuse you ignoramuses.

 

[Rustic]

Wrong

Democracy of men agrees

Democracy of white men in a landslide agrees

Trump has the real power

Good little Nazi you would make. Get some fresh air and read some newspapers. Your propaganda machine doesn't really have any.

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

/——/ What part of The National Socialist German Workers' Party confuses you?

So you believe all right-wing propaganda then, super duper? Socialists are always democratic and are not Nazis. What they really meant was they had a war economy with socialist benefits, paid for by debt and Jewish confiscations. Not leftist at all. That is a brand new theory that disgusts all historians, just GOP propaganda. To confuse you ignoramuses.

 

[daveman]

Wrong

Democracy of men agrees

Democracy of white men in a landslide agrees

Trump has the real power

Good little Nazi you would make. Get some fresh air and read some newspapers. Your propaganda machine doesn't really have any.

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

/——/ What part of The National Socialist German Workers' Party confuses you?

So you believe all right-wing propaganda then, super duper? Socialists are always democratic and are not Nazis. What they really meant was they had a war economy with socialist benefits, paid for by debt and Jewish confiscations. Not leftist at all. That is a brand new theory that disgusts all historians, just GOP propaganda. To confuse you ignoramuses.

Whoever taught you history, you have a good case for malpractice.

 

[Darkwind]

A ford coupe car

Do you have a keeper? Maybe you should go seek this keeper out?

 

[Darkwind]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

I guess its a good thing that America has no democracy to threaten!

 

[GreenAndBlue]

A ford coupe car

Do you have a keeper? Maybe you should go seek this keeper out?

Learn how to understand if possible

There are types of cars and types of democracies

Democracy is when the voters controls the govt and that's what we have

There is no nation that is a pure democracy

 

[Darkwind]

A ford coupe car

Do you have a keeper? Maybe you should go seek this keeper out?

Learn how to understand if possible

There are types of cars and types of democracies

Democracy is when the voters controls the govt and that's what we have

There is no nation that is a pure democracy

Now grasp what we are discussing. American Constitutional Republicanism.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

A ford coupe car

Do you have a keeper? Maybe you should go seek this keeper out?

Learn how to understand if possible

There are types of cars and types of democracies

Democracy is when the voters controls the govt and that's what we have

There is no nation that is a pure democracy

Now grasp what we are discussing. American Constitutional Republicanism.

That is the description and limits of our democracy

The founders restricted it to only the wise to vote and also having a min age of 21

 

[GreenAndBlue]

There is no nations with a pure democracy. They all have some limits

 

[francoHFW]

I don't think you are stupid, but I've been wrong before. The facts that everyone knows, and no one on your side of the argument will admit, is trump has surrounded himself with liars, cheats and crooks. All like himself.

He has fired those who say no, you can't do that donnie, and hired those who will allow him to ignore the rule of law and obstructs justice.

Trump and the current Republican Party and its fellow travelers have shit on the Constitution, and you know that too. The party that abhors regulations, chooses to support policies and regulations to convince the biddable that they are in fact equivalent to laws when it fits their needs.

Oh, stop pretending you give a shit about the Constitution. You never gave a damn when Obama did his end runs around it.

You know -- exactly as you were ordered to do.

Like what end runs, super duper?

You won't accept it, because it doesn't suck Obama's ass, but here you go.

Highly debatable propaganda.

You're so predictable.

But in your defense, I do have to say it's because you're a moron.

Stop redacting the material LOL. Nothing Obama did compares to a day or two of trump...

Good little Nazi you would make. Get some fresh air and read some newspapers. Your propaganda machine doesn't really have any.

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

/——/ What part of The National Socialist German Workers' Party confuses you?

So you believe all right-wing propaganda then, super duper? Socialists are always democratic and are not Nazis. What they really meant was they had a war economy with socialist benefits, paid for by debt and Jewish confiscations. Not leftist at all. That is a brand new theory that disgusts all historians, just GOP propaganda. To confuse you ignoramuses.

If only we had a propaganda machine for all these memes you guys have instead of brains.

 

[Rustic]

Oh, stop pretending you give a shit about the Constitution. You never gave a damn when Obama did his end runs around it.

You know -- exactly as you were ordered to do.

Like what end runs, super duper?

You won't accept it, because it doesn't suck Obama's ass, but here you go.

Highly debatable propaganda.

You're so predictable.

But in your defense, I do have to say it's because you're a moron.

Stop redacting the material LOL. Nothing Obama did compares to a day or two of trump...

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

/——/ What part of The National Socialist German Workers' Party confuses you?

So you believe all right-wing propaganda then, super duper? Socialists are always democratic and are not Nazis. What they really meant was they had a war economy with socialist benefits, paid for by debt and Jewish confiscations. Not leftist at all. That is a brand new theory that disgusts all historians, just GOP propaganda. To confuse you ignoramuses.

If only we had a propaganda machine for all these memes you guys have instead of brains.

 

[daveman]

Oh, stop pretending you give a shit about the Constitution. You never gave a damn when Obama did his end runs around it.

You know -- exactly as you were ordered to do.

Like what end runs, super duper?

You won't accept it, because it doesn't suck Obama's ass, but here you go.

Highly debatable propaganda.

You're so predictable.

But in your defense, I do have to say it's because you're a moron.

Stop redacting the material LOL. Nothing Obama did compares to a day or two of trump...

/——-/ Nazis we’re left wing socialists just like today’s democRAT party

Yes I know you are a brainwashed ignoramus. Socialists don't attack other countries. Except extreme socialists IE communists back in the good old days LOL. leftists don't have corporations CEOs and aristocrats as friends like the Nazis. They were right-wing fascists like all fascists. You GOP dupes are just totally baffled with b*******. Hillary didn't do anything wrong the rich don't pay enough in taxes we are the only country in the modern world without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training 5 week vacations and great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration. You people are morons.

/——/ What part of The National Socialist German Workers' Party confuses you?

So you believe all right-wing propaganda then, super duper? Socialists are always democratic and are not Nazis. What they really meant was they had a war economy with socialist benefits, paid for by debt and Jewish confiscations. Not leftist at all. That is a brand new theory that disgusts all historians, just GOP propaganda. To confuse you ignoramuses.

If only we had a propaganda machine for all these memes you guys have instead of brains.

I provided a link for my claim. You screeched like a shit-flinging monkey.