Democrat motive for $15 minimum wage?

[PoliticalChic]

if we could get them to understand that, should all people earn a decent livable wage and have decent affordable health care and decent affordable education, then we truly would be a great nation!

I agree, but where do the jobs come from? New startup businesses can't afford high wages, and existing large companies already deal with labor unions. Perhaps temporary wage subvention for new jobs?

When Feeling Passes For Knowing....


New jobs?????


Unemployment looms in the future....


7. "The Congressional Budget Office report estimated that a $15 minimum wage would lead to 1.3 million lost jobs by the year 2025, with job losses rising over time due to compounding negative impacts.

8. ...a not-insignificant chance that losses could exceed 3.7 million.

9. A 2011 Heritage Foundation estimate was even bleaker. It estimated a $15 minimum wage would lead to 7 million lost jobs.

10. Some groups have tried to minimize this part of the picture, focusing instead on the 17 million workers who currently earn below $15 that would receive an income boost. But this simply means that for every 13 workers who would get a wage boost, one worker would lose their job entirely."
Here Are 6 Ways a New Report Devastates the $15 Minimum Wage




"FDR talked Congress into creating Social Security in 1935 and imposing the nation’s first comprehensive minimum-wage law in 1938. While to this day he gets a great deal of credit for these two measures from the general public, many economists have a different perspective.

The minimum-wage law prices many of the inexperienced, the young, the unskilled, and the disadvantaged out of the labor market. For example, the minimum-wage provisions passed as part of another act in 1933 threw an estimated 500,000 blacks out of work."
Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

 

[anynameyouwish]

if we could get them to understand that, should all people earn a decent livable wage and have decent affordable health care and decent affordable education, then we truly would be a great nation!

I agree, but where do the jobs come from? New startup businesses can't afford high wages, and existing large companies already deal with labor unions. Perhaps temporary wage subvention for new jobs?

"I agree, but where do the jobs come from?"

Let's just start with the jobs that exist.

I have NO ANSWER as to how to do this.

I can only say the following;

If I was on a boat

and it sunk

and I swam to an uninhabited island and declared it MINE!

if anyone else found themselves on MY ISLAND needing a place to stay and food I would make an arrangement with them; help me "work" MY ISLAND for food and water and I would guarantee them plenty of food shelter. I would NOT make them work 16 hour days, 6 days a week for slave wages. and then tell them "it's a dog eat dog world"....I'd rather it be a dog be kind and decent to other dogs world

 

[Siete]

Democrat motive for $15 minimum wage?


to watch RW hacks crap their drawers.

 

[jwoodie]

help me "work" MY ISLAND for food and water and I would guarantee them plenty of food shelter.

So said the Little Red Hen...

 

[otto105]

if we could get them to understand that, should all people earn a decent livable wage and have decent affordable health care and decent affordable education, then we truly would be a great nation!

I agree, but where do the jobs come from? New startup businesses can't afford high wages, and existing large companies already deal with labor unions. Perhaps temporary wage subvention for new jobs?

So Seattle is losing starts and corporate jobs as you opine on.


You got some facts to present.

 

[otto105]

if we could get them to understand that, should all people earn a decent livable wage and have decent affordable health care and decent affordable education, then we truly would be a great nation!

I agree, but where do the jobs come from? New startup businesses can't afford high wages, and existing large companies already deal with labor unions. Perhaps temporary wage subvention for new jobs?

When Feeling Passes For Knowing....


New jobs?????


Unemployment looms in the future....


7. "The Congressional Budget Office report estimated that a $15 minimum wage would lead to 1.3 million lost jobs by the year 2025, with job losses rising over time due to compounding negative impacts.

8. ...a not-insignificant chance that losses could exceed 3.7 million.

9. A 2011 Heritage Foundation estimate was even bleaker. It estimated a $15 minimum wage would lead to 7 million lost jobs.

10. Some groups have tried to minimize this part of the picture, focusing instead on the 17 million workers who currently earn below $15 that would receive an income boost. But this simply means that for every 13 workers who would get a wage boost, one worker would lose their job entirely."
Here Are 6 Ways a New Report Devastates the $15 Minimum Wage




"FDR talked Congress into creating Social Security in 1935 and imposing the nation’s first comprehensive minimum-wage law in 1938. While to this day he gets a great deal of credit for these two measures from the general public, many economists have a different perspective.

The minimum-wage law prices many of the inexperienced, the young, the unskilled, and the disadvantaged out of the labor market. For example, the minimum-wage provisions passed as part of another act in 1933 threw an estimated 500,000 blacks out of work."
Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

Sure, but has any city that has implemented a $15 minimum wage lost jobs?

A 2011 heritage buttjob as proof of what?

 

[Wyatt earp]

if we could get them to understand that, should all people earn a decent livable wage and have decent affordable health care and decent affordable education, then we truly would be a great nation!

I agree, but where do the jobs come from? New startup businesses can't afford high wages, and existing large companies already deal with labor unions. Perhaps temporary wage subvention for new jobs?

"I agree, but where do the jobs come from?"

Let's just start with the jobs that exist.

I have NO ANSWER as to how to do this.

I can only say the following;

If I was on a boat

and it sunk

and I swam to an uninhabited island and declared it MINE!

if anyone else found themselves on MY ISLAND needing a place to stay and food I would make an arrangement with them; help me "work" MY ISLAND for food and water and I would guarantee them plenty of food shelter. I would NOT make them work 16 hour days, 6 days a week for slave wages. and then tell them "it's a dog eat dog world"....I'd rather it be a dog be kind and decent to other dogs world

I would build a Walmart and aircraft carrier


And take it over

 

[hunarcy]

$15 would more than recoup. Highest it's ever been in 2019$ terms is $11 in the 60's.

So why the fuck are we talking about $15 on a Federal level when our current minimum wage has been inflation battered $7.25 for a decade. How about a cool $10 first?

Incrementally raise it
$10 at first
Then $12.50 and link future increases to inflation
Congress has shown they can’t be trusted to look out after low wage earners. They do a good job looking out for the rich though

So, you'll incrementally raise inflation and SLOWLY put people out of work. Very wise....not.

So your position is that minimum wage should never have been increased

We have a booming economy. Our businesses are more than capable of raising the wage for our lowest paid workers

My position is that the minimum wage is for beginning workers and workers with no skills. Therefore, it should not be more than $7.25 an hour, to encourage workers to get training that would help them earn more money or trade their experience for better positions..

I agree. Beginning workers
Kids starting out in life. Wanting to pay for college. Buy a car.

7.25 doesn’t cut it

Which is why it is a good motivator for improving your skills and education.

 

[Wyatt earp]

if we could get them to understand that, should all people earn a decent livable wage and have decent affordable health care and decent affordable education, then we truly would be a great nation!

I agree, but where do the jobs come from? New startup businesses can't afford high wages, and existing large companies already deal with labor unions. Perhaps temporary wage subvention for new jobs?

When Feeling Passes For Knowing....


New jobs?????


Unemployment looms in the future....


7. "The Congressional Budget Office report estimated that a $15 minimum wage would lead to 1.3 million lost jobs by the year 2025, with job losses rising over time due to compounding negative impacts.

8. ...a not-insignificant chance that losses could exceed 3.7 million.

9. A 2011 Heritage Foundation estimate was even bleaker. It estimated a $15 minimum wage would lead to 7 million lost jobs.

10. Some groups have tried to minimize this part of the picture, focusing instead on the 17 million workers who currently earn below $15 that would receive an income boost. But this simply means that for every 13 workers who would get a wage boost, one worker would lose their job entirely."
Here Are 6 Ways a New Report Devastates the $15 Minimum Wage




"FDR talked Congress into creating Social Security in 1935 and imposing the nation’s first comprehensive minimum-wage law in 1938. While to this day he gets a great deal of credit for these two measures from the general public, many economists have a different perspective.

The minimum-wage law prices many of the inexperienced, the young, the unskilled, and the disadvantaged out of the labor market. For example, the minimum-wage provisions passed as part of another act in 1933 threw an estimated 500,000 blacks out of work."
Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

Sure, but has any city that has implemented a $15 minimum wage lost jobs?

A 2011 heritage buttjob as proof of what?

They all have

 

[hunarcy]

If you don’t want to pay $15 minimum wage, do the work yourself

And that's exactly why you'll be costing jobs.

 

[LeftofLeft]

$15 an hour will make LESS people dependent on Government support

Your assumption is that people want to work and not leave welfare. How many people are saying.... “I want to be off welfare.”

 

[rightwinger]

if we could get them to understand that, should all people earn a decent livable wage and have decent affordable health care and decent affordable education, then we truly would be a great nation!

I agree, but where do the jobs come from? New startup businesses can't afford high wages, and existing large companies already deal with labor unions. Perhaps temporary wage subvention for new jobs?

If a business can’t survive without slave wages, they don’t deserve to survive

Why should low paid workers have to sacrifice so your business can succeed

 

[rightwinger]

$15 an hour will make LESS people dependent on Government support

Your assumption is that people want to work and not leave welfare. How many people are saying.... “I want to be off welfare.”

All of them

 

[hunarcy]

If you don’t want to pay $15 minimum wage, do the work yourself

What work?


Your paying me to see the country..

Man the cash register, handle the grill, work the drive thru, sweep the floors, clean the tables, scrub the toilets

It’s your place, do it yourself if you don’t want to pay someone

And when all these businesses are given incentive to try to replace low skill workers with technology, you will not accept that YOU caused those workers to be replaced.

 

[rightwinger]

If you don’t want to pay $15 minimum wage, do the work yourself

And that's exactly why you'll be costing jobs.

Good ...do it
Don’t want to pay for your workers, man your own cash registers, sweep your own floors, clean your own toilets

 

[LeftofLeft]

$15 an hour will make LESS people dependent on Government support

Your assumption is that people want to work and not leave welfare. How many people are saying.... “I want to be off welfare.”

All of them

Ok. How many are saying “I want to WORK?@

 

[rightwinger]

If you don’t want to pay $15 minimum wage, do the work yourself

What work?


Your paying me to see the country..

Man the cash register, handle the grill, work the drive thru, sweep the floors, clean the tables, scrub the toilets

It’s your place, do it yourself if you don’t want to pay someone

And when all these businesses are given incentive to try to replace low skill workers with technology, you will not accept that YOU caused those workers to be replaced.

What nonsense

Workers have been replaced with technology for 200 years
Low wages did not prevent it

 

[hunarcy]

If you don’t want to pay $15 minimum wage, do the work yourself

What work?


Your paying me to see the country..

Man the cash register, handle the grill, work the drive thru, sweep the floors, clean the tables, scrub the toilets

It’s your place, do it yourself if you don’t want to pay someone

And when all these businesses are given incentive to try to replace low skill workers with technology, you will not accept that YOU caused those workers to be replaced.

What nonsense

Workers have been replaced with technology for 200 years
Low wages did not prevent it

Geez, you are cursed with a terminal case of ignorance. Technology only replaces workers when human power becomes too expensive and technology becomes more cost effective than humans. Rather than increase the cost of labor, people should be encourage to increase their education to develop more skill. That makes them more valuable and justifies the increase in wages.

 

[LeftofLeft]

If you don’t want to pay $15 minimum wage, do the work yourself

And that's exactly why you'll be costing jobs.

Good ...do it
Don’t want to pay for your workers, man your own cash registers, sweep your own floors, clean your own toilets

Let the market decide that. It will.

 

[rightwinger]

If you don’t want to pay $15 minimum wage, do the work yourself

What work?


Your paying me to see the country..

Man the cash register, handle the grill, work the drive thru, sweep the floors, clean the tables, scrub the toilets

It’s your place, do it yourself if you don’t want to pay someone

And when all these businesses are given incentive to try to replace low skill workers with technology, you will not accept that YOU caused those workers to be replaced.

What nonsense

Workers have been replaced with technology for 200 years
Low wages did not prevent it

Geez, you are cursed with a terminal case of ignorance. Technology only replaces workers when human power becomes too expensive and technology becomes more cost effective than humans. Rather than increase the cost of labor, people should be encourage to increase their education to develop more skill. That makes them more valuable and justifies the increase in wages.

Are you saying if horse drawn wagons were cheaper, they would not have been replaced by railroads?

That if only the guy pumping gas would work for less, they would not have self serve?