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Nonsense. The people of that state still have their votes counted in the national popular vote. Their votes count just as much as anyone else's in the country. That includes the people who vote for the less popular party in the state who would otherwise have their votes thrown in the trash.If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
Nonsense. The people of that state still have their votes counted in the national popular vote. Their votes count just as much as anyone else's in the country. That includes the people who vote for the less popular party in the state who would otherwise have their votes thrown in the trash.If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
If every vote counts, then let's ditch the electoral college and actually make the votes count.
It's kind of a moot point anyway, because the first time CA voters realize their state went Republican, they would throw a massive fit and it would be reversed, throwing the whole thing out the window. Like most schemes thought up by democrats, as soon as it would be used against them they would jettison it. No principles at all. And yes, the popular vote thing WOULD throw away votes, because currently a state can vote for a candidate, while under the popular vote scheme, it wouldn't matter.National popular vote doesn't throw anyone's votes away, unlike the electoral college.They can do that, but the voters would have to be morons to throw away their votes like that.
The Constitution says the states can determine how their electors are chosen. There's nothing prohibiting a national popular vote.Nonsense. The people of that state still have their votes counted in the national popular vote. Their votes count just as much as anyone else's in the country. That includes the people who vote for the less popular party in the state who would otherwise have their votes thrown in the trash.If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
If every vote counts, then let's ditch the electoral college and actually make the votes count.
The amend the constitution. The Compact has constitutional issues via the requirement for a republican form of government imposed on the States, the fact that any agreement like this between States need the approval of Congress, and it removes the imposition of "one person, one vote" found under the 14th amendments requirement for equal protection under the law.
The other issue is there is actually no certifiable national vote tally, thus the compact fails on the fact that it has no actual certified vote to use as an "official" result.
The Constitution says the states can determine how their electors are chosen. There's nothing prohibiting a national popular vote.Nonsense. The people of that state still have their votes counted in the national popular vote. Their votes count just as much as anyone else's in the country. That includes the people who vote for the less popular party in the state who would otherwise have their votes thrown in the trash.If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
If every vote counts, then let's ditch the electoral college and actually make the votes count.
The amend the constitution. The Compact has constitutional issues via the requirement for a republican form of government imposed on the States, the fact that any agreement like this between States need the approval of Congress, and it removes the imposition of "one person, one vote" found under the 14th amendments requirement for equal protection under the law.
The other issue is there is actually no certifiable national vote tally, thus the compact fails on the fact that it has no actual certified vote to use as an "official" result.
Each state already certifies their election results. Just do the math.
National popular vote doesn't change anything about one person one vote.
There's no need for any Congressional involvement since it still boils down to a state matter of deciding how their electors are chosen.
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Not an agreement or a compact. Just a state determining what they are doing with their electors. The people are voting for their legislature, that makes it a Republic. The Constitution gives the legislature sole authority to determine who the electors are. If the legislature gave the people of the state no say whatsoever in the choosing of the electors, it'd still be a Republic and that is obviously allowed.The Constitution says the states can determine how their electors are chosen. There's nothing prohibiting a national popular vote.Nonsense. The people of that state still have their votes counted in the national popular vote. Their votes count just as much as anyone else's in the country. That includes the people who vote for the less popular party in the state who would otherwise have their votes thrown in the trash.If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
If every vote counts, then let's ditch the electoral college and actually make the votes count.
The amend the constitution. The Compact has constitutional issues via the requirement for a republican form of government imposed on the States, the fact that any agreement like this between States need the approval of Congress, and it removes the imposition of "one person, one vote" found under the 14th amendments requirement for equal protection under the law.
The other issue is there is actually no certifiable national vote tally, thus the compact fails on the fact that it has no actual certified vote to use as an "official" result.
Each state already certifies their election results. Just do the math.
National popular vote doesn't change anything about one person one vote.
There's no need for any Congressional involvement since it still boils down to a state matter of deciding how their electors are chosen.
The Constitution guarantees a republican form of government, allowing people OUTSIDE your State determine how votes are allocated INSIDE your State is hardly republican. Also a person IN the State's vote can be negated by people OUTSIDE the State, which violates equal protection.
Each State certifies a winner via the EC, and there is no mechanism to tabulate for an "official" result.
As for Congress having to give approval:
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Not an agreement or a compact. Just a state determining what they are doing with their electors. The people are voting for their legislature, that makes it a Republic. The Constitution gives the legislature sole authority to determine who the electors are. If the legislature gave the people of the state no say whatsoever in the choosing of the electors, it'd still be a Republic and that is obviously allowed.The Constitution says the states can determine how their electors are chosen. There's nothing prohibiting a national popular vote.Nonsense. The people of that state still have their votes counted in the national popular vote. Their votes count just as much as anyone else's in the country. That includes the people who vote for the less popular party in the state who would otherwise have their votes thrown in the trash.If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
If every vote counts, then let's ditch the electoral college and actually make the votes count.
The amend the constitution. The Compact has constitutional issues via the requirement for a republican form of government imposed on the States, the fact that any agreement like this between States need the approval of Congress, and it removes the imposition of "one person, one vote" found under the 14th amendments requirement for equal protection under the law.
The other issue is there is actually no certifiable national vote tally, thus the compact fails on the fact that it has no actual certified vote to use as an "official" result.
Each state already certifies their election results. Just do the math.
National popular vote doesn't change anything about one person one vote.
There's no need for any Congressional involvement since it still boils down to a state matter of deciding how their electors are chosen.
The Constitution guarantees a republican form of government, allowing people OUTSIDE your State determine how votes are allocated INSIDE your State is hardly republican. Also a person IN the State's vote can be negated by people OUTSIDE the State, which violates equal protection.
Each State certifies a winner via the EC, and there is no mechanism to tabulate for an "official" result.
As for Congress having to give approval:
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
They can call it whatever they want, it’s not a compact as the framers of the constitution intended.Not an agreement or a compact. Just a state determining what they are doing with their electors. The people are voting for their legislature, that makes it a Republic. The Constitution gives the legislature sole authority to determine who the electors are. If the legislature gave the people of the state no say whatsoever in the choosing of the electors, it'd still be a Republic and that is obviously allowed.The Constitution says the states can determine how their electors are chosen. There's nothing prohibiting a national popular vote.Nonsense. The people of that state still have their votes counted in the national popular vote. Their votes count just as much as anyone else's in the country. That includes the people who vote for the less popular party in the state who would otherwise have their votes thrown in the trash.If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
If every vote counts, then let's ditch the electoral college and actually make the votes count.
The amend the constitution. The Compact has constitutional issues via the requirement for a republican form of government imposed on the States, the fact that any agreement like this between States need the approval of Congress, and it removes the imposition of "one person, one vote" found under the 14th amendments requirement for equal protection under the law.
The other issue is there is actually no certifiable national vote tally, thus the compact fails on the fact that it has no actual certified vote to use as an "official" result.
Each state already certifies their election results. Just do the math.
National popular vote doesn't change anything about one person one vote.
There's no need for any Congressional involvement since it still boils down to a state matter of deciding how their electors are chosen.
The Constitution guarantees a republican form of government, allowing people OUTSIDE your State determine how votes are allocated INSIDE your State is hardly republican. Also a person IN the State's vote can be negated by people OUTSIDE the State, which violates equal protection.
Each State certifies a winner via the EC, and there is no mechanism to tabulate for an "official" result.
As for Congress having to give approval:
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
It's an agreement and a compact, hell compact is IN THE NAME OF THE THING.
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia
It's unconstitutional and nothing more than an end run.
there wasn't a chance in hell the dems were not going to push the shit out of RUSSIA for all it was worth.I don't think that's an accurate way of putting it. The Mueller investigation wasn't to overturn the election. It was to investigate Russian influence and interference and that included if any Americans were involved.You accused Russia of stealing the 2016 election and blew millions of dollars in kangaroo court hearings to try and prove it.
Trump brought it on by firing Comey.
They can call it whatever they want, it’s not a compact as the framers of the constitution intended.Not an agreement or a compact. Just a state determining what they are doing with their electors. The people are voting for their legislature, that makes it a Republic. The Constitution gives the legislature sole authority to determine who the electors are. If the legislature gave the people of the state no say whatsoever in the choosing of the electors, it'd still be a Republic and that is obviously allowed.The Constitution says the states can determine how their electors are chosen. There's nothing prohibiting a national popular vote.Nonsense. The people of that state still have their votes counted in the national popular vote. Their votes count just as much as anyone else's in the country. That includes the people who vote for the less popular party in the state who would otherwise have their votes thrown in the trash.If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
If every vote counts, then let's ditch the electoral college and actually make the votes count.
The amend the constitution. The Compact has constitutional issues via the requirement for a republican form of government imposed on the States, the fact that any agreement like this between States need the approval of Congress, and it removes the imposition of "one person, one vote" found under the 14th amendments requirement for equal protection under the law.
The other issue is there is actually no certifiable national vote tally, thus the compact fails on the fact that it has no actual certified vote to use as an "official" result.
Each state already certifies their election results. Just do the math.
National popular vote doesn't change anything about one person one vote.
There's no need for any Congressional involvement since it still boils down to a state matter of deciding how their electors are chosen.
The Constitution guarantees a republican form of government, allowing people OUTSIDE your State determine how votes are allocated INSIDE your State is hardly republican. Also a person IN the State's vote can be negated by people OUTSIDE the State, which violates equal protection.
Each State certifies a winner via the EC, and there is no mechanism to tabulate for an "official" result.
As for Congress having to give approval:
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
It's an agreement and a compact, hell compact is IN THE NAME OF THE THING.
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia
It's unconstitutional and nothing more than an end run.
Democrats still support a National Popular Vote, where each vote counts as one vote.
What we don't support are fascists.
Democrats still support a National Popular Vote, where each vote counts as one vote.
What we don't support are fascists.
No, you do, you support anti-fa, one of the many examples of doublethink/blackwhite that permeate progressive thought and actions.
I don't think that's an accurate way of putting it. The Mueller investigation wasn't to overturn the election. It was to investigate Russian influence and interference and that included if any Americans were involved.You accused Russia of stealing the 2016 election and blew millions of dollars in kangaroo court hearings to try and prove it.
Trump brought it on by firing Comey.
and waste AMERICAn tax paying $$ on all the bullshit ...you are a very delusional person. just because you say, well, that means nothingI don't think that's an accurate way of putting it. The Mueller investigation wasn't to overturn the election. It was to investigate Russian influence and interference and that included if any Americans were involved.You accused Russia of stealing the 2016 election and blew millions of dollars in kangaroo court hearings to try and prove it.
Trump brought it on by firing Comey.
Democrats still support a National Popular Vote, where each vote counts as one vote.
What we don't support are fascists.
No, you do, you support anti-fa, one of the many examples of doublethink/blackwhite that permeate progressive thought and actions.
I am a proud Anti-Fascist and Pro-Democracy. Opposed to the GOP who are definitely Pro-Fascist and Anti-Democracy.
Hilarious....
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