Democrats INSIST there is no voter fraud - again they lie

[Seawytch]

Why Millions of Americans Have No Government ID

A hit piece from NPR, is that the best you can come up with? It says poor people and old people don't have IDs.. Are any of those old poor people on medicare, medicaid, food stamps, any form of welfare, rent subsidy programs, prescription drug payment programs? If they are on any of those they have an ID.

the problem is a made up one by the dems and libs because they want illegals to vote, people to vote multiple times, dead people to vote, and people to vote in more than one state or precinct. They know that they cannot win elections with their programs, so they have to cheat. Everyone with a lick of sense knows what is going on, its obvious.

The subject is photo ID.

Republicans want to suppress the vote through culling voter roles, demanding a photo ID, limiting polling stsations in Democrat areas, moving polling places away from poorer neighborhood. and gross gerrymandering.

And you just lie about Democrats & dead people?

I listed things that Republicans have actually done. You present myths.

Republicans want to suppress the dead people and illegal vote. Every election, throughout the country, dead people and illegals show up on voter registration lists. Why do Democrats lose their shit over purging people from voter registration lists who have not voted in 6 or more years?

Good for them!

Now if you can only show that any dead people or illegals actually vote

then why did the dems vote this down?

House Dems overwhelmingly reject motion to condemn illegal immigrant voting

Because it was STUPID. It's like voting on a motion to condemn Unicorns for farting glitter.

 

[rightwinger]

Here's a trick red states use to keep Black folks from voting. link below

Southern U.S. states have closed 1,200 polling places in recent years: rights group

total bullshit. Polling places have been closed in white precincts as well as a cost saving measure. All of those southern states also have early voting systems where you can vote at a central place (usually a court house) and usually in a central location.

This article is a dem talking point, nothing more. No legal voter in the USA is being denied the right to vote. However illegals may be denied voting rights, as they should be

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Where is your intelligence and data to support your notion that illegals are not voting? It is easy for illegals and non-citizens to vote here in the US with little or no authentication as opposed to Mexico where you need ID to vote.

Then, where is the data supporting it?

No illegals are detained at the election site, no illegal voters show up after the election

More importantly, why would an illegal who has mastered the art of not being identified risk deportation just to cast ONE vote?

 

[Seawytch]

Here's a trick red states use to keep Black folks from voting. link below

Southern U.S. states have closed 1,200 polling places in recent years: rights group

total bullshit. Polling places have been closed in white precincts as well as a cost saving measure. All of those southern states also have early voting systems where you can vote at a central place (usually a court house) and usually in a central location.

This article is a dem talking point, nothing more. No legal voter in the USA is being denied the right to vote. However illegals may be denied voting rights, as they should be

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Where is your intelligence and data to support your notion that illegals are not voting? It is easy for illegals and non-citizens to vote here in the US with little or no authentication as opposed to Mexico where you need ID to vote.

Sorry, sugar, that ain't how it works. You must provide proof that they ARE voting.

You have to provide identification at the time of registration in the United States. If you don't have a valid ID your registration is flagged and you must show a form of ID the first time you vote. That's FEDERAL law. It's in the 1993 NVRA.

 

[Seawytch]

total bullshit. Polling places have been closed in white precincts as well as a cost saving measure. All of those southern states also have early voting systems where you can vote at a central place (usually a court house) and usually in a central location.

This article is a dem talking point, nothing more. No legal voter in the USA is being denied the right to vote. However illegals may be denied voting rights, as they should be

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Where is your intelligence and data to support your notion that illegals are not voting? It is easy for illegals and non-citizens to vote here in the US with little or no authentication as opposed to Mexico where you need ID to vote.

Then, where is the data supporting it?

No illegals are detained at the election site, no illegal voters show up after the election

More importantly, why would an illegal who has mastered the art of not being identified risk deportation just to cast ONE vote?

Risk a huge fine, jail time AND deportation for ZERO gain.

 

[Seawytch]

from your cite


People who drive in the U.S. must have a valid driver's license. Some states require an International Driving Permit (IDP) from foreign nationals, in addition to a valid license from your own country. Contact the motor vehicle department of each state you will drive in for its requirements.

Short-Term Visitors
If you intend on getting an IDP, you must do so in advance of your travel:

• The United States does not issue IDPs to foreign visitors. To get an IDP, contact the motor vehicle department of the country that issued your driver's license.
• If you want to rent a car, you may need both your license and an IDP. Find out the rental company's policies and other requirements in advance.
• Beware of international driver's license scams.

Residents (Non-U.S. Citizens)
The residency requirement for obtaining a U.S. driver's license is different in each state:

• If you are eligible to apply for a driver's license, you must get a driver's license from the state where you live.
• Check the requirements and find out how to apply in your state's department of motor vehicles.
• A U.S. driver's license allows you to drive anywhere in the U.S. It is your responsibility to know and obey the laws of the state where you are driving.

Car Rental and Car Sharing Services

These provisions all apply to people in the USA LEGALLY, THEY DO NOT APPLY TO ILLEGALS

They are still non citizens.

 

[Seawytch]

A hit piece from NPR, is that the best you can come up with? It says poor people and old people don't have IDs.. Are any of those old poor people on medicare, medicaid, food stamps, any form of welfare, rent subsidy programs, prescription drug payment programs? If they are on any of those they have an ID.

the problem is a made up one by the dems and libs because they want illegals to vote, people to vote multiple times, dead people to vote, and people to vote in more than one state or precinct. They know that they cannot win elections with their programs, so they have to cheat. Everyone with a lick of sense knows what is going on, its obvious.

The subject is photo ID.

Republicans want to suppress the vote through culling voter roles, demanding a photo ID, limiting polling stsations in Democrat areas, moving polling places away from poorer neighborhood. and gross gerrymandering.

And you just lie about Democrats & dead people?

I listed things that Republicans have actually done. You present myths.

OK, lets assume that photo ID is the only issue (its not but lets play your game). Who in the USA legally today does not have some form of photo ID? Everyone on welfare has one, everyone getting food stamps has one, everyone on medicare has one, everyone on medicaid has one, everyone that buys booze has one. So, for the last time, who in the USA legally today does not have a photo ID?

and on the subject of limiting access to polling places, did you forget the black panthers who stood in front of the polling place in military garb and threatened white voters?

Stop fooling yourself, its the dems that want to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes, multiple votes, and dead people votes. They know that that is the only way that they can ever win. Why else would they push for open borders and allowing illegals to get dirvers licenses (photo ID) and vote?

You keep asking the same question and keep getting the same response. An estimated ten percent of the population does not have a current acceptable ID.

Oppose Voter ID Legislation - Fact Sheet

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1

OK. What are Democrats doing to close that gap of 11 percent without ID? Think about how much easier in other parts of our lives besides voting that necessitates an ID. Why won’t Democrats take that up as a cause?

Im cool with that

I think EVERY American should be given a National ID card linked to biometrics. One card that you can use for ID, Social Security, Health Insurance, Driving, Credit Card, Start your car, open your front door

You only need to carry one card for all your needs

Babies are already required to get a social security number at birth. Just automatically register them to vote at the same time.

 

[RealDave]

The subject is photo ID.

Republicans want to suppress the vote through culling voter roles, demanding a photo ID, limiting polling stsations in Democrat areas, moving polling places away from poorer neighborhood. and gross gerrymandering.

And you just lie about Democrats & dead people?

I listed things that Republicans have actually done. You present myths.

OK, lets assume that photo ID is the only issue (its not but lets play your game). Who in the USA legally today does not have some form of photo ID? Everyone on welfare has one, everyone getting food stamps has one, everyone on medicare has one, everyone on medicaid has one, everyone that buys booze has one. So, for the last time, who in the USA legally today does not have a photo ID?

and on the subject of limiting access to polling places, did you forget the black panthers who stood in front of the polling place in military garb and threatened white voters?

Stop fooling yourself, its the dems that want to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes, multiple votes, and dead people votes. They know that that is the only way that they can ever win. Why else would they push for open borders and allowing illegals to get dirvers licenses (photo ID) and vote?

You keep asking the same question and keep getting the same response. An estimated ten percent of the population does not have a current acceptable ID.

Oppose Voter ID Legislation - Fact Sheet

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1

OK. What are Democrats doing to close that gap of 11 percent without ID? Think about how much easier in other parts of our lives besides voting that necessitates an ID. Why won’t Democrats take that up as a cause?

Im cool with that

I think EVERY American should be given a National ID card linked to biometrics. One card that you can use for ID, Social Security, Health Insurance, Driving, Credit Card, Start your car, open your front door

You only need to carry one card for all your needs

Babies are already required to get a social security number at birth. Just automatically register them to vote at the same time.

But.....but....everyone can vote & we can't have that!!!!!

 

[rightwinger]

What is the matter with Republicans? Are they that stupid that they will allow illegals to actually vote? Each party is allowed to assign election observers at polling places. One of the duties of observers is to challenge voters who they think are voting illegally.
Yet with hundreds of thousands of polling locations, Republicans have been unable to flag a single illegal immigrant voting

 

[rightwinger]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lection-observers-and-why-the-u-s-needs-them/

Potential voter challengers. Thirty-nine states allow poll watchers to challenge eligibility at the polls; 28 states allow challenges before someone votes. In some states, these laws originated during the American Revolution, but in others “challenger laws” came along with Jim Crow and the effort to stop African Americans from voting. Challengers have become more assertive in the past decade.

 

[dudmuck]

Here's a trick red states use to keep Black folks from voting. link below

Southern U.S. states have closed 1,200 polling places in recent years: rights group

total bullshit. Polling places have been closed in white precincts as well as a cost saving measure. All of those southern states also have early voting systems where you can vote at a central place (usually a court house) and usually in a central location.

This article is a dem talking point, nothing more. No legal voter in the USA is being denied the right to vote. However illegals may be denied voting rights, as they should be

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Where is your intelligence and data to support your notion that illegals are not voting? It is easy for illegals and non-citizens to vote here in the US with little or no authentication as opposed to Mexico where you need ID to vote.

The best method of telling whether somebody is voting is whether or not they are registered to vote.
Because anybody who isnt on voter rolls cannot vote, even US citizens.

So, this was tried in Texas. But it devolved into intimidating Latino and naturalized citizens from voting.

 

[LeftofLeft]

total bullshit. Polling places have been closed in white precincts as well as a cost saving measure. All of those southern states also have early voting systems where you can vote at a central place (usually a court house) and usually in a central location.

This article is a dem talking point, nothing more. No legal voter in the USA is being denied the right to vote. However illegals may be denied voting rights, as they should be

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Where is your intelligence and data to support your notion that illegals are not voting? It is easy for illegals and non-citizens to vote here in the US with little or no authentication as opposed to Mexico where you need ID to vote.

Then, where is the data supporting it?

No illegals are detained at the election site, no illegal voters show up after the election

More importantly, why would an illegal who has mastered the art of not being identified risk deportation just to cast ONE vote?

My data is on the vulnerability of a non-citizen (I.e. both legal documented non citizens and illegals). Your assumption is that on an absolute basis, NO illegal or Non Citizen will attempt to vote out of fear of deportation. My assumption is that some or enough will.

 

[rightwinger]

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Where is your intelligence and data to support your notion that illegals are not voting? It is easy for illegals and non-citizens to vote here in the US with little or no authentication as opposed to Mexico where you need ID to vote.

Then, where is the data supporting it?

No illegals are detained at the election site, no illegal voters show up after the election

More importantly, why would an illegal who has mastered the art of not being identified risk deportation just to cast ONE vote?

My data is on the vulnerability of a non-citizen (I.e. both legal documented non citizens and illegals). Your assumption is that on an absolute basis, NO illegal or Non Citizen will attempt to vote out of fear of deportation. My assumption is that some or enough will.

As usual....woulda, coulda, shoulda
But no actual illegals voting

If it is happening, PROVE IT

Challenge people at the polls and show illegals, Show where someone actually showed up at the polls and found someone had voted under their name, show where someone gave a name of someone who had already voted, after the election go through voter rolls and show where some of the votes cast were by illegals


But you can’t prove anything

 

[dudmuck]

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Where is your intelligence and data to support your notion that illegals are not voting? It is easy for illegals and non-citizens to vote here in the US with little or no authentication as opposed to Mexico where you need ID to vote.

Then, where is the data supporting it?

No illegals are detained at the election site, no illegal voters show up after the election

More importantly, why would an illegal who has mastered the art of not being identified risk deportation just to cast ONE vote?

My data is on the vulnerability of a non-citizen (I.e. both legal documented non citizens and illegals). Your assumption is that on an absolute basis, NO illegal or Non Citizen will attempt to vote out of fear of deportation. My assumption is that some or enough will.

If you have data, why would you need to make any assumptions?

 

[rightwinger]

One of my favorite “expose’” of voter ID fraud was from James OKeefe and Project Veritas

He wanted to show how easy it was to vote without showing an ID. So he walked up to the desk and gave a name and offered to show an ID. No matter how many times he asked, they told him no ID was required. They just shoved the book in front of him and told him to sign his name. OKeefe refused to sign and eventually walked away without voting.

He then posted his video as proof of how easy it was to vote without ID

What it really showed was that there was no way OKeefe was going to sign and break the law. OKeefe never actually voted because he was afraid to sign.

Same deterrent applies to every illegal voter

 

[Seawytch]

One of my favorite “expose’” of voter ID fraud was from James OKeefe and Project Veritas

He wanted to show how easy it was to vote without showing an ID. So he walked up to the desk and gave a name and offered to show an ID. No matter how many times he asked, they told him no ID was required. They just shoved the book in front of him and told him to sign his name. OKeefe refused to sign and eventually walked away without voting.

He then posted his video as proof of how easy it was to vote without ID

What it really showed was that there was no way OKeefe was going to sign and break the law. OKeefe never actually voted because he was afraid to sign.

Same deterrent applies to every illegal voter

Correct. He would have been committing a FELONY. Perjury can get you fined and sent to prison for up to five years. Why would anyone risk that, plus deportation, for ZERO gain?

 

[Redfish]

A hit piece from NPR, is that the best you can come up with? It says poor people and old people don't have IDs.. Are any of those old poor people on medicare, medicaid, food stamps, any form of welfare, rent subsidy programs, prescription drug payment programs? If they are on any of those they have an ID.

the problem is a made up one by the dems and libs because they want illegals to vote, people to vote multiple times, dead people to vote, and people to vote in more than one state or precinct. They know that they cannot win elections with their programs, so they have to cheat. Everyone with a lick of sense knows what is going on, its obvious.

The subject is photo ID.

Republicans want to suppress the vote through culling voter roles, demanding a photo ID, limiting polling stsations in Democrat areas, moving polling places away from poorer neighborhood. and gross gerrymandering.

And you just lie about Democrats & dead people?

I listed things that Republicans have actually done. You present myths.

Republicans want to suppress the dead people and illegal vote. Every election, throughout the country, dead people and illegals show up on voter registration lists. Why do Democrats lose their shit over purging people from voter registration lists who have not voted in 6 or more years?

Good for them!

Now if you can only show that any dead people or illegals actually vote

then why did the dems vote this down?

House Dems overwhelmingly reject motion to condemn illegal immigrant voting

Because it is stupid
Let’s vote on condemning space aliens from voting.
Condemning it assumes it is actually happening

It is actually happening, your ignorance does not change reality. The dems won't condemn voting fraud because they know that they need it to win.

 

[Redfish]

Here's a trick red states use to keep Black folks from voting. link below

Southern U.S. states have closed 1,200 polling places in recent years: rights group

total bullshit. Polling places have been closed in white precincts as well as a cost saving measure. All of those southern states also have early voting systems where you can vote at a central place (usually a court house) and usually in a central location.

This article is a dem talking point, nothing more. No legal voter in the USA is being denied the right to vote. However illegals may be denied voting rights, as they should be

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Lets just revisit one of your false claims.

the popular vote: Yes, crooked hillary won more PVs than Trump, but her entire margin of victory was in one county in one state (LA county, california)..and that is exactly why the founders, in their wisdom, created the electoral college, so that all US citizens in all locations would have a voice in selecting presidents. Without the EC, LA county, NYC, Miami/Dade, and Houston metro would decide all presidential elections and the rest of the country would have zero input. The candidates would only campaign in those 4 places and our democracy would go to hell. But that seems to be what you libs want, a country where an elite few have all the power and everyone else is a serf to the wizards in DC.

You are not a dummy, I know that. Think about this with an open mind.

 

[Redfish]

One of my favorite “expose’” of voter ID fraud was from James OKeefe and Project Veritas

He wanted to show how easy it was to vote without showing an ID. So he walked up to the desk and gave a name and offered to show an ID. No matter how many times he asked, they told him no ID was required. They just shoved the book in front of him and told him to sign his name. OKeefe refused to sign and eventually walked away without voting.

He then posted his video as proof of how easy it was to vote without ID

What it really showed was that there was no way OKeefe was going to sign and break the law. OKeefe never actually voted because he was afraid to sign.

Same deterrent applies to every illegal voter

Correct. He would have been committing a FELONY. Perjury can get you fined and sent to prison for up to five years. Why would anyone risk that, plus deportation, for ZERO gain?

would those be the same illegals who take the risk of crossing our border multiple times and committing crimes in this country? If someone would enter illegally 7 or 8 times, do you really think that person fears being punished for voting?

 

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Here's a trick red states use to keep Black folks from voting. link below

Southern U.S. states have closed 1,200 polling places in recent years: rights group

total bullshit. Polling places have been closed in white precincts as well as a cost saving measure. All of those southern states also have early voting systems where you can vote at a central place (usually a court house) and usually in a central location.

This article is a dem talking point, nothing more. No legal voter in the USA is being denied the right to vote. However illegals may be denied voting rights, as they should be

No, "all those southern states" do not. Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina do not a!low early voting. And why should the poor people have to travel to "a central place" but the rich white people get plenty of local polling places?

they don't have to travel because of their race, grow up witchey. I happen to know for a fact that there are plenty of convenient polling places in the black and mixed race sections of New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi.

why can't you admit that this whole voter ID thing with you dems is just an attempt to find ways to stuff the ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Many blacks now vote GOP, why would republicans want to make it harder for them to vote?

Yes, Fishy, they are targeted because of their race...and for being poor.

Some Republicans Acknowledge Leveraging Voter ID Laws for Political Gain

Republicans Admit Voter ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

No, Fishy, blacks do not vote GOP. Hispanics make up 6% of GOP voters, Asian Americans 4%, and blacks 2%. GOP legislators aren't even trying to get their vote especially when a much larger portion of GOP voters are straight up racist.

I and others have said time and again that we are NOT opposed to voter ID. What we are opposed to is the narrow and restrictive forms of ID many states require.

"Illegals" aren't voting. I know you want that to be true so it doesn't look like the country is being run by an idiot that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, but it's a fact, jack.

Where is your intelligence and data to support your notion that illegals are not voting? It is easy for illegals and non-citizens to vote here in the US with little or no authentication as opposed to Mexico where you need ID to vote.

she doesn't have any, she is a talking point repeater like her buddy rightwinger.

 

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One of my favorite “expose’” of voter ID fraud was from James OKeefe and Project Veritas

He wanted to show how easy it was to vote without showing an ID. So he walked up to the desk and gave a name and offered to show an ID. No matter how many times he asked, they told him no ID was required. They just shoved the book in front of him and told him to sign his name. OKeefe refused to sign and eventually walked away without voting.

He then posted his video as proof of how easy it was to vote without ID

What it really showed was that there was no way OKeefe was going to sign and break the law. OKeefe never actually voted because he was afraid to sign.

Same deterrent applies to every illegal voter

Correct. He would have been committing a FELONY. Perjury can get you fined and sent to prison for up to five years. Why would anyone risk that, plus deportation, for ZERO gain?

ZERO gain????? Lets see now, the DNC picks them up, buys them lunch, takes them to the polling place, gives them a $20, and then drives them back to wherever they live (in LA or SFO thats probably a makeshift tent on the street).

Your naivte is amazing, witchey.