GreenAndBlue
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The difference you rightards refuse to accept is when Biden threatened to hold up funds, it was to get Ukraine to provide a service for the U.S.Please stop your nonsense. ... near everyone in the admin saw, heard, and knew what Trump did was wrong, before and after the phone call. There was quid pro quo attempt by Trump starting weeks before the phone call.... there have been a half dozen to a dozen testimonies of such, including Trump himself, and Mulveney, Sondland, Taylor, CIA legal Counsel, 2 whistle blowers, our UKraine Diplomat who just resigned, the white House legal counsellor who hid the FULL phone call conversation on an Above Top Secret storing place, the decorated Col.from the NSC who listened in on the call..... on and on and on....It's not "simple information," it's asking to investigate. That's s service. Providing a service is a thing of value.Damn, you really are stuck on stupid. The courts have ruled that simple information is NOT considered a thing of value in a campaign. But Trump didn't even ask for information, he asked for cooperation with the US AG. There's nothing improper about that, well unless you're a fucking commie trying to create shit from thin air.
And those six senators who are running for president have a clear conflict of interest and should be recused form any senate trial.
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As far as those 6 Senators recusing themselves, that's not an unreasonable argument to make.
You're a liar, he asked for cooperation with the AG, that would be providing information. Provide the quote where he demanded Ukraine to investigate or he wouldn't provide aid. Remember, Ukraine wasn't even aware of the hold on aid.
Also those 6 senators have to recuse, there is a clear conflict, both politically and professionally.
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Congress allotted the military aid in Feb, and Trump held it back with the previous Ukraine president as well until that prosecutor would announce investigating Biden/Burisma...Giuliani was the Trump contact pushing it as well....
The Pentegon CLEARED Ukraine of any continued corruption in JUNE, gave the A OK to release it.
The aid money was released in September, 2 DAYS AFTER THE WHISTLE BLOWER REPORT was made known to The Intel Committee in Congress by the IG.....
And that ain't even the half of it...
There is EVERY REASON to investigate all of this, and if true, either censored or impeached and then off to a political trial in the Senate, where President Trump will have his lawyers, his witnesses, his evidence, on and for his own defense.
Do you really think 20 plus Republican Senators will join with Dem Senators to remove him from office?
I find that hard to believe...
Plus Trump is using campaign funds right now to bribe them too, no RNC campaign dollars without commitment to not impeach, is what's being reported....
AND Barr said he was not involved with investigating in the Ukraine on Crowdstrike or Bidens.
Only Giuliani side show....
So even if what you say is true (and even Politifact can't affirm that) what law did Trump break? Presidents have used quid pro quo's all the time. Joe Biden is a perfect example. And you forgot the fact that part of the money holdup was because Trump wanted other UN members to pony up instead of us providing most of the funding.
Whereas when Trump held the funds up, it was to get Ukraine to provide a service for his campaign.
And while you're free to ignore that difference, the House is not and will impeach Trump over it.
Just a lie
The service was to Bidens son and not the us