Dems Near Clinton Panic Mode

A Quinnipiac University poll also showed that both Hillary and Bernie would defeat any Republican who would win the nomination. In other words, panic mode is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

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and it's still a year til the Conventions.

polls at this point don't mean squat
 
Tell that to Trump. But my point was in reference to the Democrats being in panic mode, the poll clearly shows that isn't the case.

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A Quinnipiac University poll also showed that both Hillary and Bernie would defeat any Republican who would win the nomination. In other words, panic mode is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

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and it's still a year til the Conventions.

polls at this point don't mean squat
True, but there's no way she wins in Colo or NC or Va. If the gop takes Fla and Ohio too they win. And I think she's toast in Iowa too.
 
A Quinnipiac University poll also showed that both Hillary and Bernie would defeat any Republican who would win the nomination. In other words, panic mode is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

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Indeed. To-date, 93 national polls, 398 matchups, Hillary has won 388 of them, most of them, resoundingly.

Even a rabid RW nutcase birther pollster (Gravis, for WND) cannot get Hillary under 50....

Fun, fun, fun...
I must not be understanding you. I have seen polls where she is less than 50, and matter of fact, Sanders waqs at a statistical tie and even better in some polls.
It's true Hillary performed magnificently in earlier polls. But there is the present where she is not doing well. What is going to make the difference are the FBI headlines!


Sanders is only close to her in New Hampshire and that's it.

And quite often, the candidate who won NH lost the nomination. Remember nominee Buchanan, nominee Tsongas? LOL!!

In Iowa, she is at least +20 ahead of him, and nationally, in poll after poll after poll, she is at +30 most of the time. Yes, it was +50 about 5 months ago, when no one else was in. +30 is a blowout margin. Even the latest CNN poll makes it clear that in Iowa, without Biden as a Choice, Clinton springs up to 58% and Sanders doesn't budge. Practically the entire time, Hillary has been hanging more often that not at 60%. In South Carolina, which has the most delegates of the first four states, she is at 70%.

So, you see, there is perception.
And then, there is math.

And I would be writing the same stuff about Republicans.

A +30 margin is a crushing margin. It's simple math.
Thanks Stat! It's early. Let's see what December brings. Will it be a gift for you or for me? :)


I'm gonna let you in on a secret, but shhhhhh, don't tell anyone. Any process where we the people actually decide something is a gift for me.

And I am a big fan of landslide wins, even when it is sometimes "my" side that loses, because a landslide means beyond a shadow of a doubt that we the people have decided, without ifs or buts or whatevers.

And I am not an automatic Democratic voter, contary to what some people here may think.

I will openly admit, not only do I like Clinton, I am personally convinced that she is the superior candidate to every one out there, in both fields.

But there are two Republicans out there whom, were either one of them to be nominated, I would take a hard look at before making my final decision. The other 15 do not interest me in the slightest, I think they are terrible. But that's my personal opinion. I also think that 3 Democratic candidates are also terrible and I would not vote for them in the primaries. I can, without reservations, reject them.

In 2012, I sat down for two full hours and went over the GOP platform, word for word, I researched Romney's proposals, all of them, word for word.

Then, I read the Democratic platform, word for word and went through all of the President's proposals, word for word.

I lined up the platforms and the proposals next to each other and noted the differences.

Then, I made my choice.

I will vote for the person whom I am convinced will do the best possible job from the Executive branch.

That's my private side.

My numbers-side is pretty damned neutral. I see the polling, I recognize the trends and see where things are going. It was very obvious to me in October 2004 that President Bush was going to be re-elected. The math was saying it. Just as it was obvious to me that 2008 was going to be a big realignment election, and it was.

At the end of the day, I don't think the 2016 race is going to be close at all.
 
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My spin?

So...because you guys occasionally put out these articles and threads saying that the Democrats are falling apart, does that make it true?
A Democratic Strategist talked about the damage, per THE HILL report.


Just like two "Democratic" strategists. who, in 2011, told President Obama that he should step down, that he had no chance of re-election. Thank goodness he did that, President Romney is just delighted about this.

Oh, wait... that's not what happened.

Hillary will prevail over this, mark my words. Her campaign has prepared for this long before anyone decided to make this an issue.
I feel bad for you, she's being hurt badly by this stuff. You're delusional this is also out of her control

Want to know why Hillary is not being hurt badly by this stuff?

Trump

All political focus is on Trump. Bashing Mexicans, bashing McCain, saying Megyn Kelly is on the rag..
Nobody cares about classified servers when you can anxiously await the next Trump bombshell
You speak for yourself. Smart people are looking at Hillary's increasing troubles and reaching for Biden's phone number.

Nobody cares

17 Republican candidates and not one gets any attention without mentioning Trump.
You think the public cares about classified vs unclassified servers?

Trump just said Megyn Kelly is on the rag
 
A Quinnipiac University poll also showed that both Hillary and Bernie would defeat any Republican who would win the nomination. In other words, panic mode is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

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and it's still a year til the Conventions.

polls at this point don't mean squat
True, but there's no way she wins in Colo or NC or Va. If the gop takes Fla and Ohio too they win. And I think she's toast in Iowa too.


If the R ticket includes Kasich or Rubio, they have Florida or Ohio.

possibly both
 
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Supporters on their way to meet with St. Hillary the Inevitable
 
Dems Near Clinton Panic Mode
The Clinton campaign’s decision to give up the server and a thumb-drive containing back-up copies of emails left Democrats scratching their heads as to why the former secretary of State had resisted turning over the server for months.


Coupled with new polls that suggest Clinton is vulnerable, Democrats are nearing full-on panic mode.


“I’m not sure they completely understand the credibility they are losing, by the second,” said one Democratic strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “At some point this goes from being something you can rationalize away to something that becomes political cancer. And we are getting pretty close to the cancer stage, because this is starting to get ridiculous.”


“Look, this is a classic example of the cover-up being ten times worse than the so-called crime — though in this case there wasn't a crime,” said another progressive strategist.


“The culture of secrecy that has surrounded the Clintons — understandably in some cases — has now yielded a situation where she did something that wasn't necessary and looks nefarious.”


The slew of unimpressive poll numbers is exacerbating the situation. Some have shown slippage against her main left-wing rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Others have indicated her losing swing states against possible Republican opponents. Still others have revealed continuing weakness in her ratings on trustworthiness and favorability.


A new Franklin Pierce University poll from New Hampshire on Tuesday showed Clinton losing to Sanders by seven percentage points in the Granite State. Another survey from the Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling (PPP), also released Tuesday, indicated which President Obama won in both 2008 and 2012.


The PPP poll showed 52 percent of Iowans holding an unfavorable view of Clinton and only 38 percent holding a favorable view. In a Quinnipiac University poll released at the end of last month, a clear majority of voters nationwide said they did not consider the former secretary of State honest or trustworthy — 57 percent to 37 percent. It was only the latest finding that indicated deep trouble for Clinton on that issue.

But concerned Democrats keep coming back to the same question: Why did the Clinton campaign not simply hand over the private server when the controversy first erupted in March?

“There's a hesitance that emerges in terms of her trustworthiness,” the source said. “At some point, people will start to ask whether this hurts her electability in the general election.”



Dems near Clinton panic mode TheHill

No doubt about it now. The majority of citizens see Clinton as untrustworthy. When are politicians going to learn that the cover up is worse than the crime in the public's eye?


Uhm, no.
--Clinton losing to Sanders by seven percentage points in the Granite State
--Clinton getting the worse of hypothetical match-ups with four separate Republican opponents in the swing state of Iow
--PPP poll showed 52 percent of Iowans holding an unfavorable view of Clinton and only 38 percent holding a favorable view,
--concerned Democrats keep coming back to the same question: Why did the Clinton campaign not simply hand over the private server when the controversy first erupted in March?

Clinton at least 30 points ahead of Sanders nationally, a margin that Republicans would kill to have.

Swing state of "low"??????
Clinton way behind in CO, IA, and VA--all states Obama took in 2012.
2016 Presidential Swing State Polls Poll - July 22 2015 - Clinton In Trouble In Colorado Quinnipiac University Connecticut


And there you show your stupidity again.

On the same day that this this Qpiac triple-poll came out, PPP also showed Hillary comfortably ahead in VA.

In IA and in CO, it was tight for Obama all the way through 2011 and most of 2012, and I have been noting this about Hillary.

You bring up one poll, but I watch, log and study ALL of them.

Better luck to you next time.
 
A Quinnipiac University poll also showed that both Hillary and Bernie would defeat any Republican who would win the nomination. In other words, panic mode is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

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and it's still a year til the Conventions.

polls at this point don't mean squat
True, but there's no way she wins in Colo or NC or Va. If the gop takes Fla and Ohio too they win. And I think she's toast in Iowa too.


If the R ticket includes Kasich or Rubio, they have Florida or Ohio.

possibly both

Is that why Romney and Ryan carried Massachusetts and Wisconsin in 2012?

Oh, wait.... they didn't.
 
A Quinnipiac University poll also showed that both Hillary and Bernie would defeat any Republican who would win the nomination. In other words, panic mode is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

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and it's still a year til the Conventions.

polls at this point don't mean squat
True, but there's no way she wins in Colo or NC or Va. If the gop takes Fla and Ohio too they win. And I think she's toast in Iowa too.


If the R ticket includes Kasich or Rubio, they have Florida or Ohio.

possibly both

Is that why Romney and Ryan carried Massachusetts and Wisconsin in 2012?

Oh, wait.... they didn't.


Were they running against Hillary, or a sitting president?
 
A Quinnipiac University poll also showed that both Hillary and Bernie would defeat any Republican who would win the nomination. In other words, panic mode is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

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Saying Hillary is a superior candidate shows that you really don't care what kind of dixk

Indeed. To-date, 93 national polls, 398 matchups, Hillary has won 388 of them, most of them, resoundingly.

Even a rabid RW nutcase birther pollster (Gravis, for WND) cannot get Hillary under 50....

Fun, fun, fun...
I must not be understanding you. I have seen polls where she is less than 50, and matter of fact, Sanders waqs at a statistical tie and even better in some polls.
It's true Hillary performed magnificently in earlier polls. But there is the present where she is not doing well. What is going to make the difference are the FBI headlines!


Sanders is only close to her in New Hampshire and that's it.

And quite often, the candidate who won NH lost the nomination. Remember nominee Buchanan, nominee Tsongas? LOL!!

In Iowa, she is at least +20 ahead of him, and nationally, in poll after poll after poll, she is at +30 most of the time. Yes, it was +50 about 5 months ago, when no one else was in. +30 is a blowout margin. Even the latest CNN poll makes it clear that in Iowa, without Biden as a Choice, Clinton springs up to 58% and Sanders doesn't budge. Practically the entire time, Hillary has been hanging more often that not at 60%. In South Carolina, which has the most delegates of the first four states, she is at 70%.

So, you see, there is perception.
And then, there is math.

And I would be writing the same stuff about Republicans.

A +30 margin is a crushing margin. It's simple math.
Thanks Stat! It's early. Let's see what December brings. Will it be a gift for you or for me? :)


I'm gonna let you in on a secret, but shhhhhh, don't tell anyone. Any process where we the people actually decide something is a gift for me.

And I am a big fan of landslide wins, even when it is sometimes "my" side that loses, because a landslide means beyond a shadow of a doubt that we the people have decided, without ifs or buts or whatevers.

And I am not an automatic Democratic voter, contary to what some people here may think.

I will openly admit, not only do I like Clinton, I am personally convinced that she is the superior candidate to every one out there, in both fields.

But there are two Republicans out there whom, were one of them to be nominated, I would take a hard look at before making my final decision. The other 15 do not interest me in the slightest, I think they are terrible. But that's my personal opinion. I also think that 3 Democratic candidates are also terrible and I would not vote for them in the primaries. I can, without reservations, reject them.

In 2012, I sat down for two full hours and went over the GOP platform, word for word, I researched Romney's proposals, all of them, word for word.

Then, I read the Democratic platform, word for word and went through all of the President's proposals, word for word.

I lined up the platforms and the proposals next to each other and noted the differences.

Then, I made my choice.

I will vote for the person whom I am convinced will do the best possible job from the Executive branch.

That's my private side.

My numbers-side is pretty damned neutral. I see the polling, I recognize the trends and see where things are going. It was very obvious to me in October 2004 that President Bush was going to be re-elected. The math was saying it. Just as it was obvious to me that 2008 was going to be a big realignment election, and it was.

At the end of the day, I don't think the 2016 race is going to be close at all.

Anyone who thinks Hillary is superior has been eating paint chips.
 
A Quinnipiac University poll also showed that both Hillary and Bernie would defeat any Republican who would win the nomination. In other words, panic mode is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

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Indeed. To-date, 93 national polls, 398 matchups, Hillary has won 388 of them, most of them, resoundingly.

Even a rabid RW nutcase birther pollster (Gravis, for WND) cannot get Hillary under 50....

Fun, fun, fun...
I must not be understanding you. I have seen polls where she is less than 50, and matter of fact, Sanders waqs at a statistical tie and even better in some polls.
It's true Hillary performed magnificently in earlier polls. But there is the present where she is not doing well. What is going to make the difference are the FBI headlines!


Sanders is only close to her in New Hampshire and that's it.

And quite often, the candidate who won NH lost the nomination. Remember nominee Buchanan, nominee Tsongas? LOL!!

In Iowa, she is at least +20 ahead of him, and nationally, in poll after poll after poll, she is at +30 most of the time. Yes, it was +50 about 5 months ago, when no one else was in. +30 is a blowout margin. Even the latest CNN poll makes it clear that in Iowa, without Biden as a Choice, Clinton springs up to 58% and Sanders doesn't budge. Practically the entire time, Hillary has been hanging more often that not at 60%. In South Carolina, which has the most delegates of the first four states, she is at 70%.

So, you see, there is perception.
And then, there is math.

And I would be writing the same stuff about Republicans.

A +30 margin is a crushing margin. It's simple math.
Thanks Stat! It's early. Let's see what December brings. Will it be a gift for you or for me? :)


I'm gonna let you in on a secret, but shhhhhh, don't tell anyone. Any process where we the people actually decide something is a gift for me.

And I am a big fan of landslide wins, even when it is sometimes "my" side that loses, because a landslide means beyond a shadow of a doubt that we the people have decided, without ifs or buts or whatevers.

And I am not an automatic Democratic voter, contary to what some people here may think.

I will openly admit, not only do I like Clinton, I am personally convinced that she is the superior candidate to every one out there, in both fields.

But there are two Republicans out there whom, were either one of them to be nominated, I would take a hard look at before making my final decision. The other 15 do not interest me in the slightest, I think they are terrible. But that's my personal opinion. I also think that 3 Democratic candidates are also terrible and I would not vote for them in the primaries. I can, without reservations, reject them.

In 2012, I sat down for two full hours and went over the GOP platform, word for word, I researched Romney's proposals, all of them, word for word.

Then, I read the Democratic platform, word for word and went through all of the President's proposals, word for word.

I lined up the platforms and the proposals next to each other and noted the differences.

Then, I made my choice.

I will vote for the person whom I am convinced will do the best possible job from the Executive branch.

That's my private side.

My numbers-side is pretty damned neutral. I see the polling, I recognize the trends and see where things are going. It was very obvious to me in October 2004 that President Bush was going to be re-elected. The math was saying it. Just as it was obvious to me that 2008 was going to be a big realignment election, and it was.

At the end of the day, I don't think the 2016 race is going to be close at all.
Not close? That's interesting. You must feel that the scandals will sort themselves out. Aren't you concerned with Clinton's lies?
 
Indeed. To-date, 93 national polls, 398 matchups, Hillary has won 388 of them, most of them, resoundingly.

Even a rabid RW nutcase birther pollster (Gravis, for WND) cannot get Hillary under 50....

Fun, fun, fun...
I must not be understanding you. I have seen polls where she is less than 50, and matter of fact, Sanders waqs at a statistical tie and even better in some polls.
It's true Hillary performed magnificently in earlier polls. But there is the present where she is not doing well. What is going to make the difference are the FBI headlines!


Sanders is only close to her in New Hampshire and that's it.

And quite often, the candidate who won NH lost the nomination. Remember nominee Buchanan, nominee Tsongas? LOL!!

In Iowa, she is at least +20 ahead of him, and nationally, in poll after poll after poll, she is at +30 most of the time. Yes, it was +50 about 5 months ago, when no one else was in. +30 is a blowout margin. Even the latest CNN poll makes it clear that in Iowa, without Biden as a Choice, Clinton springs up to 58% and Sanders doesn't budge. Practically the entire time, Hillary has been hanging more often that not at 60%. In South Carolina, which has the most delegates of the first four states, she is at 70%.

So, you see, there is perception.
And then, there is math.

And I would be writing the same stuff about Republicans.

A +30 margin is a crushing margin. It's simple math.
Thanks Stat! It's early. Let's see what December brings. Will it be a gift for you or for me? :)


I'm gonna let you in on a secret, but shhhhhh, don't tell anyone. Any process where we the people actually decide something is a gift for me.

And I am a big fan of landslide wins, even when it is sometimes "my" side that loses, because a landslide means beyond a shadow of a doubt that we the people have decided, without ifs or buts or whatevers.

And I am not an automatic Democratic voter, contary to what some people here may think.

I will openly admit, not only do I like Clinton, I am personally convinced that she is the superior candidate to every one out there, in both fields.

But there are two Republicans out there whom, were either one of them to be nominated, I would take a hard look at before making my final decision. The other 15 do not interest me in the slightest, I think they are terrible. But that's my personal opinion. I also think that 3 Democratic candidates are also terrible and I would not vote for them in the primaries. I can, without reservations, reject them.

In 2012, I sat down for two full hours and went over the GOP platform, word for word, I researched Romney's proposals, all of them, word for word.

Then, I read the Democratic platform, word for word and went through all of the President's proposals, word for word.

I lined up the platforms and the proposals next to each other and noted the differences.

Then, I made my choice.

I will vote for the person whom I am convinced will do the best possible job from the Executive branch.

That's my private side.

My numbers-side is pretty damned neutral. I see the polling, I recognize the trends and see where things are going. It was very obvious to me in October 2004 that President Bush was going to be re-elected. The math was saying it. Just as it was obvious to me that 2008 was going to be a big realignment election, and it was.

At the end of the day, I don't think the 2016 race is going to be close at all.
Not close? That's interesting. You must feel that the scandals will sort themselves out. Aren't you concerned with Clinton's lies?


What lies?

Don't we live in a system of innocence proven until guilt is established?

Or does that standard only apply to Republicans?

Benghazi was not even a scandal. Even Republicans admit that now, after wasting months of time and millions of dollars of taxpayer $$$.
 
As a Dem, I'm feeling pretty comfortable right now

Yes, we know Republicans have another witch hunt, but to me it looks like they are acknowleging the futility of their Benghazi tantrum
Like all things Hillary....this one looks like another mountain out of a molehill

Meanwhile, the Republican party has been captured by a reality TV star and they are fumbling over petty nonsense

I think Hillary is feeling pretty good right now
She's cruising.
 
I must not be understanding you. I have seen polls where she is less than 50, and matter of fact, Sanders waqs at a statistical tie and even better in some polls.
It's true Hillary performed magnificently in earlier polls. But there is the present where she is not doing well. What is going to make the difference are the FBI headlines!


Sanders is only close to her in New Hampshire and that's it.

And quite often, the candidate who won NH lost the nomination. Remember nominee Buchanan, nominee Tsongas? LOL!!

In Iowa, she is at least +20 ahead of him, and nationally, in poll after poll after poll, she is at +30 most of the time. Yes, it was +50 about 5 months ago, when no one else was in. +30 is a blowout margin. Even the latest CNN poll makes it clear that in Iowa, without Biden as a Choice, Clinton springs up to 58% and Sanders doesn't budge. Practically the entire time, Hillary has been hanging more often that not at 60%. In South Carolina, which has the most delegates of the first four states, she is at 70%.

So, you see, there is perception.
And then, there is math.

And I would be writing the same stuff about Republicans.

A +30 margin is a crushing margin. It's simple math.
Thanks Stat! It's early. Let's see what December brings. Will it be a gift for you or for me? :)


I'm gonna let you in on a secret, but shhhhhh, don't tell anyone. Any process where we the people actually decide something is a gift for me.

And I am a big fan of landslide wins, even when it is sometimes "my" side that loses, because a landslide means beyond a shadow of a doubt that we the people have decided, without ifs or buts or whatevers.

And I am not an automatic Democratic voter, contary to what some people here may think.

I will openly admit, not only do I like Clinton, I am personally convinced that she is the superior candidate to every one out there, in both fields.

But there are two Republicans out there whom, were either one of them to be nominated, I would take a hard look at before making my final decision. The other 15 do not interest me in the slightest, I think they are terrible. But that's my personal opinion. I also think that 3 Democratic candidates are also terrible and I would not vote for them in the primaries. I can, without reservations, reject them.

In 2012, I sat down for two full hours and went over the GOP platform, word for word, I researched Romney's proposals, all of them, word for word.

Then, I read the Democratic platform, word for word and went through all of the President's proposals, word for word.

I lined up the platforms and the proposals next to each other and noted the differences.

Then, I made my choice.

I will vote for the person whom I am convinced will do the best possible job from the Executive branch.

That's my private side.

My numbers-side is pretty damned neutral. I see the polling, I recognize the trends and see where things are going. It was very obvious to me in October 2004 that President Bush was going to be re-elected. The math was saying it. Just as it was obvious to me that 2008 was going to be a big realignment election, and it was.

At the end of the day, I don't think the 2016 race is going to be close at all.
Not close? That's interesting. You must feel that the scandals will sort themselves out. Aren't you concerned with Clinton's lies?


What lies?

Don't we live in a system of innocence proven until guilt is established?

Or does that standard only apply to Republicans?

Benghazi was not even a scandal. Even Republicans admit that now, after wasting months of time and millions of dollars of taxpayer $$$.
Republicans don't admit to anything of the sort. Benghazi was just a smaller version of Mogadishu 93'. A failure by Hillary to protect those she puts in harm's way. Bill was the president....but insiders say she was running the Whitehouse back then. Which resulted in one cover-up after another. Now we know she's been taking bribes and trying to hide her activities. Do we need a president that already has and is willing to again....sell us out to our enemies?

She doesn't inspire.
She doesn't show leadership.
She isn't trustworthy.

She's simply owed because it's her fucking turn God Dammit!!!

She doesn't have to talk to us. She doesn't have to answer questions. She's living off of name recognition alone.
 
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Supporters on their way to meet with St. Hillary the Inevitable


You seem to think she is a Saint. I think of her as a person.

Are you ill today?

She will deliver us to the Progressive Utopia where everyone is equal (except for the political leaders), where nobody earns more than anyone else (except for the political leaders), we all have the same rights given to us by the State (except for the political leaders), and we no longer need firearms to defend ourselves (except for the political leaders)

Praise be her Holy Name
 

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