The definition of value inherently MAKES it subjective. Something cannot have "value" independent of a thinking agent (subject) "valuing" said something.value is subjective, i never said differently. Also, rationality can be used for literally anything, so to say that one shouldnt..or couldnt...invoke it when determining value is just plain fucking stupid.Your assertions dont mean much to me, rationally. Theyre unjustified.The same thing it is in a Universe with a God. The importance, worth or usefulness of something.
It is not even close to the same. Your life may be useful to other humans, but so what? What is important? What is worth?
You "sit on God's lap to smack His face" when you invoke these things. You are born, you want to live because you have been gifted with that instinct, you die. So what? Why is your life more valuable than that of a mushroom?
I can justify my value by merely questioning those that love me. I can also value my own life, as it brings me joy and so thats what gives it worth to me.
If there was some everlasting sky existence in some other realm after this one, it devalues this Earth-life in the sense that its not all that Id have...its merely temporary. I dont live my life that way, I think its ridiculous and cheapens things that I cherish.
You're invoking rationalism but then contradicting it in the same post. If your life has objective, rational value than that value exists across all time and places. If not, then you're just comparing ice cream flavors, basically--you're polling opinions.
The fact is that you cannot assert that your life has any intrinsic worth from your worldview. You can FEEL it has worth; you can WANT it to have worth. You can poll your kids, your dog, or the mushrooms in your backyard to see if it has worth. But it doesn't matter. You, me, all of us are "molecules in motion"--we are all essentially worthless. You have no RATIONAL case for your worthiness.
In your worldview value must be subjective.
It is absolutely not in mine.
Even if you ascertain value "from God," god is a subject and the value is subjective...its what he determines.
Just like I determine my own. And I alone determine how much I personally value "mushrooms."