Dick Cheney

[WillowTree]

I am sad for the family of a much younger person who deserved the heart more.

I have never heard of a person so old getting a heart.

Some died because cheney got the heart instead

fuck ewe! dumbass.

 

[percysunshine]

How old does a patient have to be before a hospital refusses to give them a heart transplant?

When Obamacare kicks in, the political affiliation relative to the Executive branch of government will be the only deciding factor. Not age.

You might want to start donating to Republican candidates now...just to cover all the bases and stuff....

 

[Emma]

Nope its fact.

tell me the age at which most hospitals refuse a heart transplant person a spot on a heart list?

Do you have any idea of the age?

Again? Who are you to tell a doctor to sway away from thier oath to preserve life?

Physicians don't swear to preserve life. Age is a factor in the decision to approve someone for transplant, but certainly not the only one considered.

 

[Truthmatters]

why do you all refuse to deal with the fact that someone else was refused this match because Cheney was allowed on the list that most hospitals cut off at 60.

Someone didnt get this life saving transplant because Cheney did get it.

 

[hjmick]

why do you all refuse to deal with the fact that someone else was refused this match because Cheney was allowed on the list that most hospitals cut off at 60.

Someone didnt get this life saving transplant because Cheney did get it.

Oh yeah! That's what you're worried about! Suuure...


Bullshit.


You couldn't give two shits about a person not getting the transplant because Cheney did. You're just pissed you have to continue wishing for his death rather thaan finally dancing in joy at the news of his demise.

 

[Emma]

How old does a patient have to be before a hospital refuses to give them a heart transplant?

I don't know that there is a set age, but Inova does list "advanced age" as (possibly) one of their exclusion criteria.

Who is eligible?

End-stage heart failure is the most common condition for which heart transplant is considered an option. Patients referred for heart transplant may have heart failure as a result of coronary heart disease, a hereditary condition, damaged tissue or an infection.


Generally, a patient considered for a heart transplant has already tried other treatments and may have been hospitalized more than once for heart failure. Heart failure is considered "end stage" when other treatments (such as medicine, implanted devices or surgery) have failed to relieve symptoms.


A patient eligible for a transplant must meet a variety of criteria. Transplant is often not recommended for patients with certain conditions, because the surgery is less likely to be successful. Patients with any of these conditions may not be eligible for a heart transplant:

• Advanced age
• Poor circulation
• Diabetes mellitus
• Smoking
• Immune system unable to match with a compatible donor
• Active infection throughout the body
• Inability (or unwillingness) to follow a permanent regimen of certain medical instructions
• History of cancer or malignant tumors
• Certain diseases of the kidney, lung or liver
• Irreversible pulmonary hypertension

Heart transplant program - Inova Heart and Vascular Institute - Inova Health System

I guess Mr. Cheney didn't have additional co-morbidities that would have excluded him from the list.

 

[Truthmatters]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY]Cheney in 1994 on Iraq - YouTube[/ame]

 

[percysunshine]

why do you all refuse to deal with the fact that someone else was refused this match because Cheney was allowed on the list that most hospitals cut off at 60.

Someone didnt get this life saving transplant because Cheney did get it.

When Obamacare kicks in, nobody except the super rich will get a transplant.

You hoped for change and, well, you got it.

 

[The T]

why do you all refuse to deal with the fact that someone else was refused this match because Cheney was allowed on the list that most hospitals cut off at 60.

Someone didnt get this life saving transplant because Cheney did get it.

Show it. Re YOU going to tell us too that doctors are not going to ignore thier oath to preserve life because of age? Really?

 

[The T]

why do you all refuse to deal with the fact that someone else was refused this match because Cheney was allowed on the list that most hospitals cut off at 60.

Someone didnt get this life saving transplant because Cheney did get it.

When Obamacare kicks in, nobody except the super rich will get a transplant.

You hoped for change and, well, you got it.

And what IPAB is all about.

 

[Emma]

why do you all refuse to deal with the fact that someone else was refused this match because Cheney was allowed on the list that most hospitals cut off at 60.

Someone didnt get this life saving transplant because Cheney did get it.

60 seems too young, and age isn't the sole criteria (or the most important, imo).

We don't know that there was another matched recipient in the area who could have undergone this surgery in the narrow window the heart was available.

 

[Emma]

And what IPAB is all about.

No, it isn't.

 

[percysunshine]

Nope its fact.

tell me the age at which most hospitals refuse a heart transplant person a spot on a heart list?

Do you have any idea of the age?

Again? Who are you to tell a doctor to sway away from thier oath to preserve life?

Physicians don't swear to preserve life. Age is a factor in the decision to approve someone for transplant, but certainly not the only one considered.

Emma, the Hippocrates of USMB.

 

[Emma]

Show it. Re YOU going to tell us too that doctors are not going to ignore thier oath to preserve life because of age? Really?

Physicians don't swear to preserve life and yes, age is often a factor in deciding a course of treatment.

 

[Truthmatters]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiNtpIpD6k]Cheney: I never linked Iraq with 9/11. Oh really? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Emma]

Again? Who are you to tell a doctor to sway away from thier oath to preserve life?

Physicians don't swear to preserve life. Age is a factor in the decision to approve someone for transplant, but certainly not the only one considered.

Emma, the Hippocrates of USMB.

Believe what you will. They don't swear to 'preserve' life.

 

[Truthmatters]

why do you all refuse to deal with the fact that someone else was refused this match because Cheney was allowed on the list that most hospitals cut off at 60.

Someone didnt get this life saving transplant because Cheney did get it.

When Obamacare kicks in, nobody except the super rich will get a transplant.

You hoped for change and, well, you got it.

your insane

 

[The T]

why do you all refuse to deal with the fact that someone else was refused this match because Cheney was allowed on the list that most hospitals cut off at 60.

Someone didnt get this life saving transplant because Cheney did get it.

When Obamacare kicks in, nobody except the super rich will get a transplant.

You hoped for change and, well, you got it.

your insane

Project much? You need to take yourself and yer little doggie and leave...seriously.

 

[Warrior102]

And what IPAB is all about.

No, it isn't.

Your brilliance in the forum is noted, asswipe.
Stand by for heavy rolls

 

[Truthmatters]

How old does a patient have to be before a hospital refuses to give them a heart transplant?

I don't know that there is a set age, but Inova does list "advanced age" as (possibly) one of their exclusion criteria.

Who is eligible?

End-stage heart failure is the most common condition for which heart transplant is considered an option. Patients referred for heart transplant may have heart failure as a result of coronary heart disease, a hereditary condition, damaged tissue or an infection.


Generally, a patient considered for a heart transplant has already tried other treatments and may have been hospitalized more than once for heart failure. Heart failure is considered "end stage" when other treatments (such as medicine, implanted devices or surgery) have failed to relieve symptoms.


A patient eligible for a transplant must meet a variety of criteria. Transplant is often not recommended for patients with certain conditions, because the surgery is less likely to be successful. Patients with any of these conditions may not be eligible for a heart transplant:

• Advanced age
• Poor circulation
• Diabetes mellitus
• Smoking
• Immune system unable to match with a compatible donor
• Active infection throughout the body
• Inability (or unwillingness) to follow a permanent regimen of certain medical instructions
• History of cancer or malignant tumors
• Certain diseases of the kidney, lung or liver
• Irreversible pulmonary hypertension

Heart transplant program - Inova Heart and Vascular Institute - Inova Health System

I guess Mr. Cheney didn't have additional co-morbidities that would have excluded him from the list.

He had lots and lots of money