Did Biden add 13 million jobs or were the 13 million RE-HIRED employees that were let go due COVID ?

[citygator]

Not fewer, a lower percent. Those are not the same thing

There are more people employed full time than ever, there are more people employed overall than ever, as a percent to total the multiple job holders is smaller than under Trump.

 

[rightwinger]

i am a retiree too RW.....our pensions have gone up but not as great as you are saying......

After decades of COLA increases of 1-2 percent

2022 5.9%
2023. 8.7 %
2024. 3.2 %

That is 17.8 % over just three years

 

[Harpy Eagle]

and your facts are just what you are told by biden

The facts are what are reported by the BLS, the same people that gave us the facts under Trump.

.in previous threads you have told many here that people are just exaggerating their problems.

They are.

.when i reminded you that you said you were well off,then you said that many lower income people are having problems....make up your mind....

Lower income people always have problems, tis the nature of having a lower income. This is really not as confusing as you make it out to be.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Then you should have zero problem proving the existence of the jobs and their quantity both pre and post covid

That would be impossible. Nobody knows how many jobs jobs were in America pre and post pandemic, we can just rely on the sources that show the growth number post pandemic, and the articles that point to job ‘recovery’, which is what it was.

Biden's Job Growth Chart Ignores Impact of Pandemic - FactCheck.org

Since President Joe Biden took office, the economy has added nearly 14.8 million jobs, 5.4 million more than the pre-pandemic peak in early 2020. All told, it's an average monthly job growth of more than 400,000. But Biden misleadingly contrasts that with a loss of jobs under former President...

www.factcheck.org

Fact Check: Biden Misleads on Job “Creation” Statistics | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/state-of-the-union-biden-03-07-24/h_d7601323b6cfc072a168fa84e73dc724

US Economy Added 15M Jobs During Biden Administration?

Let's not forget that millions of jobs were lost during the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.snopes.com

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There are more people employed full time than ever, there are more people employed overall than ever, as a percent to total the multiple job holders is smaller than under Trump.

Correct.

It is important to be precise in your language or you get accused of lying.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That would be impossible. Nobody knows how many jobs jobs were in America pre and post pandemic

uhhh....

All Employees, Total Nonfarm

View the number of nonfarm employees in the U.S., who account for approximately 80 percent of the workers who contribute to GDP.

fred.stlouisfed.org

 

[Harry Dresden]

After decades of COLA increases of 1-2 percent

2022 5.9%
2023. 8.7 %
2024. 3.2 %

That is 17.8 % over just three years

yea and now it is going back down to the usual percentages.....30 40 dollars a month aint much....

 

[Harry Dresden]

The facts are what are reported by the BLS, the same people that gave us the facts under Trump.



They are.



Lower income people always have problems, tis the nature of having a lower income. This is really not as confusing as you make it out to be.

but you keep on saying that many retirees and middle class people are exaggerating their situation.....which is bullshit and you know it....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

but you keep on saying that many retirees and middle class people are exaggerating their situation.....which is bullshit and you know it....

All I have said is the people on this forum are exaggerating the situation. The odd thing about all the people on here telling us how bad things are, is that so far only one of them have said they are hurting personally....do you not find it odd that things are so bad and some how the people on this forum are immune?

 

[rightwinger]

yea and now it is going back down to the usual percentages.....30 40 dollars a month aint much....

Yes, it is going down because inflation is below 4 percent

But I still get to keep that 17.8 percent increase in my pension

 

[Harry Dresden]

All I have said is the people on this forum are exaggerating the situation. The odd thing about all the people on here telling us how bad things are, is that so far only one of them have said they are hurting personally....do you not find it odd that things are so bad and some how the people on this forum are immune?

most are talking about the country,not their own situation....and i think you know this....

 

[citygator]

Correct.

It is important to be precise in your language or you get accused of lying.

Thanks Dad. LOL

 

[rightwinger]

but you keep on saying that many retirees and middle class people are exaggerating their situation.....which is bullshit and you know it....

Under Ford, Carter and Reagan, I saw inflation well above 10 percent a year and gas prices more than double.

Society adjusted

 

[Lesh]

most are talking about the country,not their own situation....and i think you know this....

And yet you can find very few people in dire circumstances.

Certainly no more than usual

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yes, it is going down because inflation is below 4 percent

But I still get to keep that 17.8 percent increase in my pension

so what?.....you are like me a federal retiree....people on SS make a lot less then we do.....i couldnt believe how much more i get than my brother in law.....and he made pretty good money....

 

[Harry Dresden]

And yet you can find very few people in dire circumstances.

Certainly no more than usual

come out of your bubble lesh....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

most are talking about the country,not their own situation....and i think you know this....

Yes, I do know this.

But how is it things are so bad in the country yet nobody I know is hurting and only one person on here has claimed to be, and she was whining about only being able to afforded 1 egg for breakfast, and then talked about the bad neighborhood she has to drive though to get to her golf course.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yes, I do know this.

But how is it things are so bad in the country yet nobody I know is hurting and only one person on here has claimed to be, and she was whining about only being able to afforded 1 egg for breakfast, and then talked about the bad neighborhood she has to drive though to get to her golf course.

you told me you were well off.....so how many lower income people do you know?....

 

[ThisIsMe]

uhhh....

All Employees, Total Nonfarm

View the number of nonfarm employees in the U.S., who account for approximately 80 percent of the workers who contribute to GDP.

fred.stlouisfed.org

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Jobs vs employees. We know employment statistics, now, show us how many of those 15 million jobs were newly created after the pandemic, vs how many were just people returning to pre pandemic employment.

Biden didn’t “create” 15 million new jobs, much of that was just job recovery.

In other words had Trump won in 2020, the jobs numbers would look largely the same. Would dems have also given him credit for all of those jobs “created”? Of course they wouldn’t.

 

[rightwinger]

so what?.....you are like me a federal retiree....people on SS make a lot less then we do.....i couldnt believe how much more i get than my brother in law.....and he made pretty good money....

As a retiree I ended up with more net income
Major expenses like mortgage, car payments and insurance stayed the same.
Food and eating out are a small part of my monthly expenses