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Who gives a f**k? It was a dumb war as all wars are. It was a war purposely designed to enriched the military industrial complex (aka 1%) and expand the size of government.
Are you that obtuse that I have to put quotes around wikipedia, and other historical sources?....As I said, it's HISTORY, and YOU should know it, JakeAss!I know how you write. Please give us the link and stop plagiarizing.How about a link?On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, engaged three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron. A sea battle resulted, in which the Maddox expended over two hundred and eighty 3-inch and 5-inch shells, and in which four USN F-8 Crusader jet fighter bombers strafed the torpedo boats. One US aircraft was damaged, one 14.5 mm round hit the destroyer, three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, four North Vietnamese sailors were killed and six were wounded; there were no U.S. casualties.
How about a link to what?...History?
The Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag IMO.Who gives a f**k? It was a dumb war as all wars are. It was a war purposely designed to enriched the military industrial complex (aka 1%) and expand the size of government.A few months ago he posed for pics in front of large image of Che Chavera in communist Cuba. This time he disrespectfully slaps our Vietnam vets in the face and poses in ecstasy in front of communist leader Ho Chi Minh. Obama proves where his true loyalties reside, the ideology called communism.
PHOTOS=> Grinning Obama Poses for Pictures Under Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam
Having lived through it......
The Vietnam war started because American president Eisenhower did not want communism to spread throughout the world and eventually to America.
The basic answer is that the U.S. was asked by France, via NATO, to keep the communists from "taking over" the French Territory. We sent troops over only to advise, and from there WE were in it and it just went "to hell in a handbasket" to quote a friend of mine. We left over 58,000 Brothers and Sisters there.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, also known as the USS Maddox Incident, is the name given to two separate confrontations involving North Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. These two incidents were considered the influential starting point of actual military action by the US against the forces of North Vietnam.
On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, engaged three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron. A sea battle resulted, in which the Maddox expended over two hundred and eighty 3-inch and 5-inch shells, and in which four USN F-8 Crusader jet fighter bombers strafed the torpedo boats. One US aircraft was damaged, one 14.5 mm round hit the destroyer, three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, four North Vietnamese sailors were killed and six were wounded; there were no U.S. casualties.
The rules of the Board say you cite sites.Are you that obtuse that I have to put quotes around wikipedia, and other historical sources?....As I said, it's HISTORY, and YOU should know it, JakeAss!I know how you write. Please give us the link and stop plagiarizing.How about a link?On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, engaged three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron. A sea battle resulted, in which the Maddox expended over two hundred and eighty 3-inch and 5-inch shells, and in which four USN F-8 Crusader jet fighter bombers strafed the torpedo boats. One US aircraft was damaged, one 14.5 mm round hit the destroyer, three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, four North Vietnamese sailors were killed and six were wounded; there were no U.S. casualties.
How about a link to what?...History?
The Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag IMO.Who gives a f**k? It was a dumb war as all wars are. It was a war purposely designed to enriched the military industrial complex (aka 1%) and expand the size of government.A few months ago he posed for pics in front of large image of Che Chavera in communist Cuba. This time he disrespectfully slaps our Vietnam vets in the face and poses in ecstasy in front of communist leader Ho Chi Minh. Obama proves where his true loyalties reside, the ideology called communism.
PHOTOS=> Grinning Obama Poses for Pictures Under Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam
Having lived through it......
The Vietnam war started because American president Eisenhower did not want communism to spread throughout the world and eventually to America.
The basic answer is that the U.S. was asked by France, via NATO, to keep the communists from "taking over" the French Territory. We sent troops over only to advise, and from there WE were in it and it just went "to hell in a handbasket" to quote a friend of mine. We left over 58,000 Brothers and Sisters there.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, also known as the USS Maddox Incident, is the name given to two separate confrontations involving North Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. These two incidents were considered the influential starting point of actual military action by the US against the forces of North Vietnam.
On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, engaged three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron. A sea battle resulted, in which the Maddox expended over two hundred and eighty 3-inch and 5-inch shells, and in which four USN F-8 Crusader jet fighter bombers strafed the torpedo boats. One US aircraft was damaged, one 14.5 mm round hit the destroyer, three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, four North Vietnamese sailors were killed and six were wounded; there were no U.S. casualties.
The rules of the Board say you cite sites.Are you that obtuse that I have to put quotes around wikipedia, and other historical sources?....As I said, it's HISTORY, and YOU should know it, JakeAss!I know how you write. Please give us the link and stop plagiarizing.How about a link?On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, engaged three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron. A sea battle resulted, in which the Maddox expended over two hundred and eighty 3-inch and 5-inch shells, and in which four USN F-8 Crusader jet fighter bombers strafed the torpedo boats. One US aircraft was damaged, one 14.5 mm round hit the destroyer, three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, four North Vietnamese sailors were killed and six were wounded; there were no U.S. casualties.
How about a link to what?...History?
We mended fences with Vietnam long before Obama showed up. I suppose you think history began with Obama's presidency.After 40 years it is about time to start mending fences.
And what did ydid the U.S. get for allowing Vietnam to now get ALL THE armaments it wants?..... a 70+ year old Catholic priest allowed to get out of jail after a decade or more of captivity?.....You'd think the NEW Pope would have done something or said something about it to draw attention....After all, he is a fellow Socialist!After 40 years it is about time to start mending fences.
Pearl Harbor was a false flag set up by the dickhead FDR.Japan did worse with attacking Pearl harbor and starting a fight with us in the first place. Yet, we have been trading and best friends for the past 30 years.
Who gives a f**k? It was a dumb war as all wars are. It was a war purposely designed to enriched the military industrial complex (aka 1%) and expand the size of government.
Vietnam Veterans gives a fuck. It is a slap in their face.
You are correct in you analysis but that doesn't give President Shit for Brains the moral authority to get his watermelon grinning mouth picture taken in front of a bust of Uncle Ho who killed 56,000 Americans, killed over a million South Vietnamese and subjected South Vietnam to authoritative Communism.
There are plenty of other places in Vietnam to get his picture taken.
Japan did worse with attacking Pearl harbor and starting a fight with us in the first place. Yet, we have been trading and best friends for the past 30 years.
The difference is WE WON, the LAST time America WON a war!
Nah, not on everything. You know what I will report you on. Any decent person would do that.The rules of the Board say you cite sites.Are you that obtuse that I have to put quotes around wikipedia, and other historical sources?....As I said, it's HISTORY, and YOU should know it, JakeAss!I know how you write. Please give us the link and stop plagiarizing.How about a link?
How about a link to what?...History?
Report me! As you do everything I do!
Japan did worse with attacking Pearl harbor and starting a fight with us in the first place. Yet, we have been trading and best friends for the past 30 years.
The difference is WE WON, the LAST time America WON a war!
When was the last time we had a just war ?
Never happens.Japan did worse with attacking Pearl harbor and starting a fight with us in the first place. Yet, we have been trading and best friends for the past 30 years.
The difference is WE WON, the LAST time America WON a war!
When was the last time we had a just war ?
Nah, not on everything. You know what I will report you on. Any decent person would do that.The rules of the Board say you cite sites.Are you that obtuse that I have to put quotes around wikipedia, and other historical sources?....As I said, it's HISTORY, and YOU should know it, JakeAss!I know how you write. Please give us the link and stop plagiarizing.How about a link to what?...History?
Report me! As you do everything I do!
Nah, not on everything. You know what I will report you on. Any decent person would do that.The rules of the Board say you cite sites.Are you that obtuse that I have to put quotes around wikipedia, and other historical sources?....As I said, it's HISTORY, and YOU should know it, JakeAss!I know how you write. Please give us the link and stop plagiarizing.
Report me! As you do everything I do!
That would leave you out completely!
Japan did worse with attacking Pearl harbor and starting a fight with us in the first place. Yet, we have been trading and best friends for the past 30 years.
The difference is WE WON, the LAST time America WON a war!
When was the last time we had a just war ?
Afghanistan, after we were bombed by OBL and the Taliban refused to give him up!
